Ua hoʻouna ʻia kēia ʻatikala e Stephanos
ʻO ke ʻano o nā lunakahiko 24 ma ka puke o Revelation ka mea he kumuhana o ka kūkākūkā no ka manawa lōʻihi. Ua hoʻāla ʻia nā ʻenehana he nui. No ka mea ʻole o ka Baibala kahi wehewehe maopopo ʻole o kēia pūʻulu o ka poʻe i hāʻawi ʻia, e hoʻomau ʻia paha kēia kūkākūkā. No laila, pono e noʻonoʻo ʻia kēia ʻatikala no ka hāʻawi ʻana i ke kūkākūkā a ʻaʻole hoʻi me ka manaʻo ʻē e hoʻopau.
Ua ʻōlelo ʻia nā lunakahiko 24 ma 12 mau manawa i loko o ka Baibala, āpau i loko o ka puke o Apokalima. ʻO ka ʻōlelo i ka ʻōlelo Helene ἱἱ εἴκοσι τέσσαρες πρεσβύτεροι (Ke unuhi ʻōlelo: hoi eikosi tessaras presbyteroi). E loaʻa iā ʻoe kēia mea i ka mana a i kona mau mea komo paha ma ka Hōʻike 4: 4, 10; 5: 5, 6, 8, 11, 14; 7: 11, 13; 11: 16; 14: 3; 19: 4.
ʻO ke kumumanaʻo i alakaʻi ʻia e JW.org ʻo ia nā 24 lunakahiko he 144.000 "mau mea poni o ka ʻaha Kalikiano, i ala hou a noho i ke kūlana lani a Iēhova i hoʻohiki ai iā lākou" (re p.77). Hāʻawi ʻia ʻekolu mau kumu no kēia wehewehe:
- Hoʻohana nā lunakahiko 24 i nā lei aliʻi (Re 4: 4). Ua hoʻohiki ʻē ʻia ka poʻe i poni ʻia e loaʻa i ka lei (1Co 9: 25);
- Noho nā lunakahiko he 24 ma luna o nā noho aliʻi (Ap 4: 4), i hiki ke kūlike me kā Iesū hoʻohiki ʻana i ke anaina Laodicea 'e noho ma kona noho aliʻi' (Ap 3:21);
- Ua helu ʻia ka helu 24 i kumu e pili ana i ka 1 Chronicles 24: 1-19, kahi e ʻōlelo ai ke aliʻi David e hoʻonohonoho ana i nā kāhuna ma nā māhele 24. E mālama ʻo ka poʻe i poni ʻia i ke kahuna ma ka lani (1Pe 2: 9).
Ke kuhikuhi nei kēia mau kumu āpau i ke kuhikuhi i kēia mau kānaka 24 a he mau aliʻi a mau kahuna paha, e hāʻawi ana i ka manaʻo e poni ʻia nā lunakahiko 24 me kahi manaolana lani, ʻoiai kēia mau mea e lilo i mau kahuna-aliʻi (Re 20: 6) . ^ E Ha yM.
Ua lawa anei kēia laina o ka noʻonoʻo e kiʻi i kahi hopena kūpono e like me ke ʻano o nā lunakahiko 24? E ʻike ʻia he nui nā manaʻo e hōʻole ʻia ana i ke kumu o kēia ʻano wehewehe.
Kūʻai 1 - He mele nani
E ʻoluʻolu e heluhelu i ka Apana 5: 9, 10. I loko o kēia mau paukū e ʻike ʻoe i kahi mele a nā 4 mea ola a me nā lunakahiko 24 e mele ai no ke Keikihipa, ka mea ʻo Iesū Kristo Kristo. ʻO ia kēia ke mele a lākou:
"Pono ʻoe e lawe i ka ʻōwili a wehe i kāna mau hōʻailona, no ka mea i make ʻoe, a ma kou koko ʻoe i hoʻōla ai i kānaka no ke Akua mai kēlā ʻohana a me kēia ʻohana a me nā kānaka a me nā lāhui a ʻoiai. 10 Ke Akua, a e aliʻi lākou i ka honua. "(Re 5: 9, 10 ESV[I])
E nānā i ka hoʻohana ʻana o nā pronouns: “a ua hana ʻoe ia lakou aupuni a kahuna i makou Ke Akua, a lakou e noho aliʻi ia ma ka honua. ʻO ka huaʻōlelo o kēia mele e pili ana i ka poʻe poni a me nā pono e loaʻa iā lākou. ʻO ka nīnau: Inā hōʻike nā lunakahiko he 24 i nā mea poni, no ke aha e kuhikuhi ai iā lākou iho i ke kolu o ke kanaka— "lākou" a me "lākou"? ʻAʻole anei ʻo ke kanaka mua— ”ʻo mākou” a me “mākou” —e kūpono hou aʻe paha? Ma hope o nā mea āpau, kuhikuhi nā kūpuna he 24 iā lākou iho i ke kanaka mua i kēia paukū like (10) ke ʻōlelo lākou "ko mākou Akua". No laila ʻaʻole lākou e mele e pili ana iā lākou iho.
ʻAmelika 2 - Hoʻolaha kūlike
E nānā i ka Hoʻomaopopo 5. Mālamalama ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana ma kēia mokuna: ʻIke ʻo Ioane i 1 ke Akua = 1 kanaka, 1 Lamb = kanaka 1 a me 4 mea ola = 4 poʻe. He mea kūpono paha ke noʻonoʻo e noho nei kēia mau lunakahiko 24 i manawa he hōʻailona hōʻailona e hōʻike ana i kahi ʻaha kanaka a i ʻole he mea ʻē aʻe paha lākou i ka poʻe 24? Inā ʻaʻole lākou he papa hōʻailona hōʻailona o ka poʻe i poni ʻia, akā he mea poni maoli 24 i hōʻike i ka pūʻulu o nā poʻe me ka manaolana o ka lani? ʻAʻole hōʻike ʻo ka Baibala e ʻoi aku ka pōmaikaʻi o kekahi poʻe poni ʻia ma mua o nā mea ʻē aʻe. Hiki i kekahi ke kūʻē i ka hoʻonoho ʻia o nā lunaʻolelo ma kahi kūlana kūikawā me Iesū, akā ʻaʻole ʻike kekahi palapala kumu 24 hoʻonani ʻia nā kānaka me ke kūlana kūikawā i mua o ke Akua. E alakaʻi mai kēia iā mākou e hoʻoholo i kēia mau lunakahiko 24 he poʻe 24 i kuhi ʻole i ka poʻe poni?
Kūʻai 3 - Daniel 7
Aia kahi puke Baibala kūikawā e kōkua ai i ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana i ka puke ʻo Revelation: ka puke a Daniel. E noʻonoʻo wale i nā mea like ma waena o kēia mau puke ʻelua. E haʻi wale aku ʻelua: nā ʻānela e lawe mai nei i nā ʻelele, a me nā holoholona weliweli i kū mai ka moana. No laila, he mea kūpono e hoʻohālikelike i nā mokuna Revelation 4 a me 5 me Daniel bab 7.
ʻO ke ʻano nui o nā puke ʻelua ʻo Iēhova ke Akua. Ma Hōʻike 4: 2 ua wehewehe ʻia ʻo ia "ka mea e noho ana ma ka noho aliʻi", ʻoiai ma Daniel 7: 9 ʻo ia ka "Kahiko o nā Lā", e noho ana ma luna o kona noho aliʻi. Hoʻohui ʻia, mea nui ia e keʻokeʻo kona lole e like me ka hau. ʻO nā mea lani ʻē aʻe e like me nā ʻānela e wehewehe ʻia i kekahi manawa me ke komo ʻana i nā kapa keʻokeʻo. (John 20:12) No laila ʻaʻole hoʻohana wale ʻia kēia kala no nā kānaka ma mua i kahi kūlana lani (Hōʻike 7: 9).
ʻAʻole ʻo Iēhova ke Akua hoʻokahi wale nō ma kēia wahi lani. Ma Wanana 5: 6 ʻike mākou iā Iesū Kristo e kū ana ma mua o ka noho aliʻi o ke Akua, i hōʻike ʻia ʻo Ke Keikihipa ka mea i pepehi ʻia. I loko o Daniel 7: 13 Kuhi ʻia ʻo Iesū "he like me ke keiki a ke kanaka, a ua hele mai ʻo ia i ka Lito o nā lā a hōʻike ʻia i mua ona". ʻO nā wehewehe ʻelua a Iesū ma ka lani e pili ana i kāna hana ma ke ʻano he kanaka, ʻokoʻa kahi kuleana no ke kanaka.
ʻAʻole ka Makua a me ke Keiki wale nō ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia. Ma ka Wanana 5: 11 ke heluhelu nei mākou e pili ana i "nā ʻānela he nui, e helu ana i nā kaukani haneli a me kāu mau kaukani he mau tausani". Pēlā nō, ma Daniel 7: 10 ʻike mākou: "hoʻokahi tausani ka poʻe lawelawe iā ia, a he ʻumi tausani kaukani ka ʻumi tausani e kū ana ma mua ona." He ʻano kupaianaha kēia!
ʻO nā poʻe i poni ʻia me ka mana e noho aliʻi ai nā kahuna me Iesū i loko o kona aupuni, ua ʻōlelo pū ʻia ʻia hoʻi me nā Wanana 5 a me Daniel 7, akā ma nā kūlana ʻelua ʻaʻole lākou i ʻike i ka lani! I loko o Apokalala 5 ua ʻōlelo ʻia lākou i loko o kahi mele (mau mokuʻāina 9-10). I loko o Daniel 7: 21, nā mea hoʻāno ma ka honua me ka mea e hoʻouka ai ka puʻupaʻa hōʻailona. Da 7: Ke ʻōlelo nei ka 26 i kahi wā e hiki mai ana ke kani a ʻōlelo a 27 e pili ana i nā mana āpau i hāʻawi ʻia i kēia mau mea manawaleʻa.
Aia kekahi poʻe ʻē aʻe i nā hihio lani o Daniel a me Ioane. E like me kā mākou i ʻike ai ma ka Hōʻike 4: 4, aia nā lunakahiko 24 i hōʻike ʻia e noho ana ma luna o nā noho aliʻi. ʻĀnō e nānā iā Daniel 7: 9 i ʻōlelo: "ʻO koʻu nānā ʻana, kau ʻia nā noho aliʻi". ʻO wai e noho ana ma kēia noho aliʻi? Pau ka ʻōlelo hou, "noho ka luna i ka hoʻoponopono".
Ua ʻōlelo ʻia kēia ʻaha ma ka paukū 26 o ka mokuna like. ʻO kēia Akua wale nō kēia ʻaha, a i ʻole pili kekahi poʻe ʻē aʻe? E ʻoluʻolu e ʻike ʻia e noho ana ʻo Iēhova ke Akua i waena o nā noho aliʻi ma ka paukū 9 - noho mua ke aliʻi ma mua - a laila noho ka ʻaha ma ka paukū 10. ʻOiai ua wehewehe ʻia ʻo Iesū ma ke ʻano he "keiki e like me ke keiki a ke kanaka", ʻaʻole ia i loko o kēia. hale ʻaha, akā aia ma waho o ia. Pēlā nō, ʻaʻole kū ka ʻaha i "nā mea laʻa" ma Daniel 7 a i ʻole ka poʻe i hana ʻia i aupuni kahuna pule ma Revelation 5 (ʻike i ka paio 1).
He aha ka manaʻo, "nā lunakahiko" (Helene: presbyteroi), lilo? I loko o nā gospels ua ʻōlelo kēia terminology i nā kāne kahiko o ka nohona Iudaio. Ma kekahi mau pauku, ua ʻōlelo ʻia kēia mau lunakahiko e pili pū ana me nā kahuna nui (e like me Matthew 16: 21; 21: 23; 26: 47). A laila, ʻaʻole lākou he kahuna ponoʻī. He aha kā lākou hana? Mai nā lā o Mose, ua hana ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana o nā lunakahiko ma ʻaha ʻaha kūloko (e like me ka Deuteronomy 25: 7). No laila ma ka noʻonoʻo o ka mea heluhelu e ʻike mua ana i nā ʻōnaehana lawehala o ka Iudaio, ua hoʻololi ʻia ka huaʻōlelo “Aha” me nā “lunakahiko”. E nānā iā Iesu, i loko o ka Hōʻike 5 a me Daniel 7, e komo i ka hanana ma hope o ka noho ʻana o ka hale hoʻokolokolo!
Ma ka ʻanuʻaka ma waena o Daniel 7 a me Revelation 5 ka mea e hōʻino a alakaʻi i ka hopena i nā 24 lunakahiko ma ka puke o Waeʻae like nā mea i hōʻike ʻia ma Daniel 7 I nā pihi ʻelua, ua pili lākou i ka hui lani, kahi kahua o nā lunakahiko, e noho ana ma nā noho aliʻi a puni ke Akua ponoʻī.
Kūʻai 4 - Hoʻopuka iā wai?
I kēlā me kēia manawa e ʻōlelo ʻia ai kēia mau kūpuna he 24, ʻike ʻia lākou ma kahi kokoke i ka noho aliʻi kahi a Iēhova ke Akua e noho ai. I kēlā me kēia hanana, koe wale nō ma Revelation 11, hele pū lākou me nā mea ola 4. Ua ʻike ʻia kēia mau mea ola he 4 mau keruba, kahi hoʻonohonoho kūikawā o nā ʻānela (ʻEzek 1:19; 10:19). ʻAʻole wehewehe ʻia nā ʻelemākule he 24 e kū ana ma kahi kokoke loa iā Kristo e like me ka poʻe 144.000 e noho pū ana me ia. (Ap 14: 1). Hoʻomaopopo pū ka paukū like ʻaʻole hiki i nā lunakahiko 24 ke hīmeni i ke mele like me ka poʻe 144.000, no laila ʻaʻole hiki ke lilo i poʻe like. E ʻoluʻolu e ʻike mau nā lunakahiko he 24 i ke Akua kokoke iā ia e lawelawe iā ia.
Akā e pili ana i nā hoʻopaʻapaʻa i haʻi ʻia i ka hoʻomaka o kēia ʻatikala a alakaʻi i nā mea he nui i ka hopena o ka 24 lunakahiko he poni? E noʻonoʻo, e noʻonoʻo i nā kū'ē'ē aʻe e hiki mai ana.
Hōʻailona 5: Hoʻonani Manaʻo o nā Mōʻī
Pehea na nohoalii e noho ai na lunakahiko he 24? Kolose 1: 16 i mai la: "Nona i hanaʻi i na mea a pau, ma ka lani a ma ka honua, he mea ike maka ole ia, ina paha noho aliʻi a i ʻole nā aupuni a i ʻole nā luna a i ʻole nā mana - ua hana ʻia nā mea āpau e ia a nona. " Hōʻike kēia ʻōlelo i ka lani he mau hierarchies kahi e hāʻawi ʻia ai ka mana. He manaʻo kēia i kākoʻo ʻia e nā moʻolelo Baibala ʻē aʻe. ʻO kahi laʻana, Daniel 10: 13 pili i ka ʻānela Mikaela ma ke ʻano "kekahi o nā aliʻi nui (Hebera: ʻokoʻa). Mai kēia mea palekana i ka manaʻo ʻana aia ma ka lani kahi kauoha o nā aliʻi, kahi hierarchy of mana. ʻOiai ua wehewehe ʻia kēia mau ʻānela he mau keiki aliʻi, kūpono ia e noho lākou ma nā noho aliʻi.
Hōʻailona 6: Nā Aupuni Kānāwai i nā Mea Korō
ʻO ka ʻōlelo Helene ua unuhi ʻia ka "lei" στέφανος (unuhiwa: stephanos). He ʻoluʻolu loa kēia ʻōlelo. ʻAʻole pono kēia ʻano o ka lei aliʻi, no ka mea, ʻo ka huaʻōlelo Helene e hōʻike nei i ke kūlana διαδήμα (diadema). Hōʻike ʻo HELPS huaʻōlelo-aʻo i ka wehewehe ʻana stephanos e like me: “pono, he lei (lei lei), hāʻawi ʻia i ka mea lanakila i nā pāʻani haʻuki kahiko (e like me nā Olumepika Helene); ka lei kalaunu o ka lanakila (versus diadema, "he lei aliʻi").
ʻO nā luna o ka ʻānela e like me Mikaele i haʻi aku ai ma ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa 5 he poʻe ikaika lākou e hoʻohana i ko lākou ikaika e kaua me nā mana demony. Loaʻa ʻoe i nā moʻolelo koʻikoʻi o kēlā mau kaua ma Daniel 10: 13, 20, 21 a me Revelation 12: 7-9. He mea hōʻoluʻolu paha ia e heluhelu i nā aliʻi kūʻiʻo mai loko mai o nā kaua e like me nā mea lanakila. Pono lākou e ʻaʻa i ka lei aliʻi na ka poʻe lanakila, ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻae?
Hoohanohano 7: Ka helu 24
ʻO ka helu 24 hiki ke hōʻike i kahi helu maoli no nā lunakahiko, a i ʻole he mea hiki i nā mākaʻikaʻi. He mea hiki iā ia ke pili i ka moʻolelo ma 1 Kūʻai 24: 1-19, ʻaʻole paha. E noʻonoʻo mākou e pili ana kēia helu i kekahi keke i 1 ʻOiaʻiʻo 24. Hōʻoiaʻiʻo kēia e pono e hoʻokaʻawale ʻia nā lunakahiko 24 i poʻe e lawelawe nei i kahuna?
E hoʻomaopopo ʻo 1 Nānā 24: wehewehe 5 i kā lākou mau hana ma kēia ala: "nā luna hoʻāno a me nā luna o ke Akua" a i ʻole "luna o ke keʻena kapu, a me nā luna o ke Akua". Eia hou ka huaʻōlelo Hebera "ʻokoʻa"Ua hoʻohana ʻia. Hoʻokomo ʻia ka manaʻo i loko o ka lawelawe i ka luakini no ke Akua. E lilo ka nīnau: He hoʻohālikelike anei ka hoʻonohonoho honua i nā hoʻonohonoho lani a i ʻole he ala ʻē aʻe? Ua kākau ka mea kākau o Hebera i ka hale o ka luakini me nā kāhuna a me nā ʻālana, he lei lākou i ka mea maoli ma ka lani (Heb 8: 4, 5). ʻAʻole hiki iā kākou ke ʻike i kahi hoʻonohonoho ʻokoʻa a ʻaʻole ʻike i hoʻokahi. No ka mea, manaʻo e pili ana i ka poʻe i poni ʻia nā kahuna a pau loa i loko o ka Mea Hemolele, ʻo ia ka lani (Heb 6: 19). I loko o ka lā o ka luakini i ʻIseraʻela, ua ʻae ʻia ke Kahuna Nui e komo i kēia wahi i hoʻokahi makahiki i ka makahiki! (Heb 9: 3, 7). Ma ka "hoʻonohonoho maoli" ʻaʻole ʻo Iesū ke kahuna nui akā naʻe ka mohai (Heb 9: 11, 12, 28). ʻAʻole pono e wehewehe hou aku, ma ka "hoʻonohonoho o ka pale" ʻaʻole kēia ka hihia (Le 16: 6).
He mea kupaianaha ʻo ia e hāʻawi aku i ka wehewehe ʻo Hebera i ke ʻano maoli o ke ʻano o ka hoʻonohonoho o ka heiau, akā ʻaʻole lākou e hoʻākāka i ka māhele kahuna 24.
Hoʻokomo ʻia, pili ka Baibala i kekahi manawa a kahi ʻānela e hana ai i kekahi mea e hoʻomanaʻo mai ai iā mākou ma ka hana a ke kahuna nui. Ma Isaia 6: 6 ua heluhelu mākou e pili ana i kahi ʻānela kūikawā, kekahi o nā seraphim, i lawe i kahi ahi ahi mai ke kuahu. ʻO kekahi mea like me kēia kahi hana ma ke Kahuna Nui (Le 16: 12, 13). Eia ʻāno i kahi ʻānela e hana ana ma ke kahuna pule. Clearlyole kēia ʻānela ʻaʻole kekahi o nā mea i poni ʻia.
No laila, ʻaʻole kahi helu helu hoʻokahi e pili ana i ke kauoha kahuna ʻaʻole loa he hōʻike paʻa o ka pilina ma waena o nā moʻolelo ma Chronicles a me Revelation. Inā kuhikuhi nā lunakahiko 24 i 1 ʻOihana 24, hiki iā mākou ke nīnau iā mākou iho: inā makemake ʻo Iēhova e haʻi mai iā mākou e pili ana i kahi ʻānela e lawelawe ana iā ia i loko o kona alo lani, pehea e hiki ai iā ia ke hoʻomaopopo iā mākou? Hiki paha iā ia ke hoʻohana i nā kiʻi i ka hoʻonohonoho honua like āna e hoʻohana ai e wehewehe i nā mea lani?
Panina
He aha kāu hopena e kau ai ma hope o kou noʻonoʻo ʻana i kēia hōʻike? He poʻe poʻomanaʻo nā 24 i ka poʻe i poni ʻia? A he ʻānela paha lākou e paʻa pono i ko lākou Akua? He nui nā hoʻopaʻapaʻa a ka Baibala e hōʻike ana i ka hopena. He mea nīnau paha ke nīnau? Ma ka liʻiliʻi o kēia noiʻi ua lawe mai i kahi ʻano like ʻole e nānā i kā mākou nānā, ʻo ia hoʻi ma waena o Daniel 7 a me Revelation 4 a me 5. Pēlā paha e hiki iā kākou ke aʻo hou aʻe mai kēia hoʻohālikelike. Mālama mākou i ia ʻatikala.
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[I] Ma waho ʻole o ka haʻi ʻia ʻana, ua pili nā ʻōlelo a ka Baibala āpau i ka English English Version (ESV)
ʻO kekahi hiki, ʻo nā ʻelemakule 24 he mau mea ʻuhane i loaʻa i ke kuleana e ʻai i ka lāʻau o ka ʻike o ka maikaʻi a me ka maikaʻi (Gen.3: 22), ma o ka loaʻa ʻana i ka mana kūʻokoʻa a me ka hiki ke hoʻokolokolo. ʻOiai ke ʻano o ke kūʻokoʻa moʻomeheu, ʻike mau lākou i ka mana o Iēhova e like me ka mea i hōʻike ʻia ma Rev. 4: 10, ma ke kīloi ʻana i ko lākou mau kalaunu i mua o ka noho aliʻi, a hoʻohālikelike iā Iesū ʻoiai ʻoiai ua ʻai ʻo ia mai nā lāʻau o ke ola a me ka ʻike, ka makemake o ka makuakāne (John.6: 38).
No ke aha pono e ʻai ai nā mea ʻuhane mai kahi lāʻau kino?
Ma kaʻu ʻike, aia kekahi, ma ka liʻiliʻi ʻo Iesū ma mua o ke ola ʻana, i manaʻo ʻia e ʻike i ka maikaʻi a me ka maikaʻi e like me ka mea i ʻike ʻia mai Gen.3: 22, ʻoiai, ʻaʻohe lāʻau i ka lani, akā aia nō paha he ala, ma ka liʻiliʻi loa nona e hiki.
Eia nō naʻe, ʻaʻole wau i manaʻoʻiʻo i ka lāʻau o ka ʻike o ka maikaʻi a me ka maikaʻi ʻole i loko o ka māla o ʻEdena i hana ʻia e pāpā ʻia a mau loa aku (e hoʻohālikelike iā Jam 1: 13). Manaʻo wau aia paha kahi ala e ʻai ai ma ke kānāwai, ʻoiai ʻaʻole i hōʻike ʻia i kēlā manawa.
I koʻu ʻike a me kaʻu hana ponoʻī ʻana, hiki iaʻu ke haʻi i kēia kumulāʻau i kahi hua ʻokoʻa e hōʻike ana i ka mana hope loa o Iēhova e kau i nā palena ma ka pono a me ka hewa. E hoʻomaopopo pehea e hoʻohana ʻia ai ka pilina ma waena o ka "ʻike" a me ka "like me ke Akua" i ka ʻOihana 1: 7, kahi a Iesū i ʻōlelo aku ai i kāna poʻe haumāna: "ʻAʻole na ʻoukou e ʻike i nā manawa a me nā kau a ka Makua i waiho ai i kāna mana ponoʻī." (NKJV). Ma waho o kēlā kumulāʻau, me he mea lā ua kūʻokoʻa ʻo ʻAdamu lāua ʻo Ewa e hana i nā mea a lāua i makemake ai, a ʻo nā palena wale nō a lāua i kau ai... Pākuhi hou »
Hay un texto que dice que los angeles se dividen en familias, supongo los 24 ancianos son arcangeles o los jefes de esas familias de angeles que representan a las decenas de mile de ellos. No entiendo porque la JW dice que esos ancianos son los ungidos si primero dicen que 144 mil lo son, que tendrian que ver 24 de esos 144 mil? Aun asi el numero 144 mil es Simbolico, ya que el libro de Apocalipsis es simbolico, nada literal que sepamos. Toda la doctrina de la JW se basa en Apocalipsis
ʻO ka ʻatikala maikaʻi a me ka wehe maka, ʻimi noiʻi maikaʻi, noʻonoʻo mau wau pehea ʻo John i ʻike ai i nā Kristiano poni hou ʻia a inā hoʻohiki ʻo ia iā ia iho. I kēia manawa hauʻoli wau i ka ʻike ʻana i ke ʻano maoli o kēia poʻe ʻelemākule.
ʻO Stephanos manaʻo maikaʻi loa. Ke hoʻopau wale nei wau i kaʻu haʻawina hoʻohālikelike i ka 144,000 a me nā lunakahiko 24. Ma kahi o nā māhele kahuna i ka 1 Nalii 24: 1-19, ua nānā wau i kahi mea e pili ana i ka 1 Nānā mokuna 27 e hiki ai ke kōkua i ka ʻike. E hoʻomaopopo i ka mea a ke Insight on the Holy e ʻōlelo ai: "I loko o 40 mau makahiki ʻo David, ua hana ʻia nā keʻena kūikawā i hoʻohui ʻia i nā hui kulana. Aia kahi o loko o nā mea aʻo aku e hoʻopuni ana i ka mōʻī iā ia iho, ʻokoʻa ka poʻe kahiko o ka mana i lawelawe i ke aupuni sentral. (1Ta 13: 1; 27: 32-34) (Insight on the Scriptures vol.1 pgs. 1230-1231 Israel) "Ua mālama ʻo Dāvida i nā mea he nui... Pākuhi hou »
Aloha ʻo Eric a me Stephanos E noʻonoʻo wale ana wau i kēia i ka pō i nehinei, no laila hauʻoli nui wau i kou kūleʻa ʻana i kēia. ʻO nā wehewehe ʻana ma nā puke pai a JW.Org (e like me ka mea i hōʻike nui ʻia i ka hālāwai CLAM o kēia pule, ʻaʻole i pane ʻia i nā nīnau a mākou e makemake ai i nā pane. Ma ka liʻiliʻi ua hōʻike ka puke Revelation Climax i nā kūlike ʻole, akā ʻaʻole i pili ka pane ma aneʻi. ʻO kēia kaʻu i hoʻoholo ai: - Ma aneʻi (ma Hōʻike 14: 3) ʻike ʻia ka 144000 e mele ana i kahi mele hou i mua o nā lunakahiko he 24. Hoʻāʻo ka puke Revelation Climax e uhi i kēia me ka nīnau... Pākuhi hou »