Umngani obhekene nesikhathi esinzima njengamanje, ngenxa yokuthanda nokunamathela eqinisweni eliseBhayibhelini esikhundleni sokwamukela ngokungaboni izimfundiso zabantu, wabuzwa ngomunye wabadala bakhe ukuthi achaze ngesinqumo sakhe sokuyeka ukuya emihlanganweni. Lapho sixoxa ngama-imeyili, umdala waphawula ukuthi umngane wami ubengalisebenzisi igama likaJehova. Lokhu kwamkhathaza, futhi wamcela ngokuqondile ukuba achaze ukungabi khona kwama-imeyili akhe.
Uma ungeyena uFakazi KaJehova, kungenzeka ungakuqondi okushiwo lapha. Kuma-JWs, ukusetshenziswa kwegama likaNkulunkulu kuyinkomba yobuKristu beqiniso. OFakazi BakaJehova bakholelwa ukuthi bebodwa ababuyisele igama likaNkulunkulu endaweni yalo efanele. Amasonto angalisebenzisi igama likaNkulunkulu ahlukaniswa “njengenkolo yamanga”. Eqinisweni, ukusetshenziswa kwegama laphezulu kungesinye sezimpawu eziyinhloko ezingokwenkolo yeqiniso ezingqondweni zoFakazi BakaJehova.[i]
Ngakho-ke lapho umngane wami engayiphathi ingxoxo yakhe negama likaJehova, ifulegi elibomvu lakhuphuka engqondweni yalomdala. Umngani wami wachaza ukuthi yize engenankinga yokusebenzisa igama laphezulu, ubengalisebenzisi kaningi ngoba ebheka uJehova njengoyise osezulwini. Uqhubeke wachaza ukuthi njengendoda ayivamisile ukubiza igama likayise wenyama — ikhetha igama elisondele futhi elifanele, “ubaba”, noma “ubaba” —ngakho ikubone kufanelekile ukubiza uJehova ngokuthi “Baba . ”
Umdala wabonakala esamukela lesi sizathu, kodwa kuphakamisa umbuzo othakazelisayo: Uma ukwehluleka ukusebenzisa igama elithi “Jehova” engxoxweni yeBhayibheli kumaka umuntu njengelungu lenkolo yamanga, ukwehluleka ukusebenzisa igama elithi “Jesu” kungakhombisa ukuthini?
Lo mdala waba nomuzwa wokuthi ukwehluleka komngane wami ukusebenzisa igama likaJehova kukhombisa ukuthi wayephelelwa yiNhlangano, ngokunokwenzeka abe eyisihlubuki.
Ake sibeke isicathulo kolunye unyawo?
Uyini umKristu weqiniso? Noma yibaphi oFakazi BakaJehova bazophendula bathi, "Umlandeli weqiniso kaKristu". Uma ngilandela othile futhi ngizama ukwenza abanye ukuba benze okufanayo, akufanele yini igama lakhe libe sezindebeni zami njalo?
Muva nje ngibe nengxoxo eyathatha amahora amathathu nabangane bami abahle lapho kukhulunywa khona ngoJehova ngamazwi afanelekayo, kodwa abangane bami abakaze babhekisele kuJesu nakanye. Lokhu akuhlukile neze. Hlanganisa iqembu lama-JW ngokuhlangana futhi igama likaJehova lizovela ngaso sonke isikhathi. Uma usebenzisa igama likaJesu kaningi futhi kumongo ofanayo, abangane bakho abangoFakazi bazoqala ukukhombisa izimpawu zokungaphatheki kahle.
Ngakho-ke uma ukwehluleka ukusebenzisa igama likaNkulunkulu kumaka umuntu ngokuthi “ongeyena uFakazi KaJehova”, ngabe ukuhluleka ukusebenzisa igama likaJesu kuhlaba umkhosi othile “njengomKristu”?
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[i] Bona Lifundisani Ngempela IBhayibheli? I-Chap. I-15 p. I-148 par. I-8
Ufuna 'ukubakhathaza' bazame ukusebenzisa igama lesiHeberu likaYahuweh (Yahuah) ngokungafani noJehova, negama lesiHeberu elithi Yeshua, elimelene noJesu. Ngiphinde ngabiza uYahuah ngokuthi "Abba" futhi kwadingeka ngichazele ufakazi ukuthi lelo kwakuyigama lesiHeberu elisho "uBaba" futhi kwakuyigama lothando elisetshenziswa ingane encane kuDaddy wabo othandekayo. Bengicabanga ukuthi amehlo akhe azophuma ekhanda lakhe! LOL !!
Kuyahlekisa lokho; Ngiyajabula ukuthi ubeke lawa mazwana. Ngokwami, ngizwe ukuthi kungaba yinto exakile ngempela ukuthi igama elithi YHWH lihunyushwe ngokuthi noma yini efana no “Yahweh”, ngoba zonke izipelingi ezihlongozwayo zibonakala zenza izinhlamvu u-H zagcizelelwa zize zifike ezingeni lokuthi 'zihlebele' futhi ucishe wanyamalala. Lokho kungenza igama lizwakale njenge- "Yawe" futhi ngaleyo ndlela iTetragrammaton izoncishiswa kube sengathi 'yi-digraph' ye-YW ngoba ama-H ngeke adingeke. Lokhu akwenzi mqondo kimi. Kunengqondo kakhulu ukuthi ongwaqa babizwa ku... Funda kabanzi "
YHWH akulona igama. Kusho ukuthi 'ngubani' noma 'ubukhona'. Igama likaNkulunkulu ngu-El / elohim / Allah. I-YHWH, esetshenziswe njengesethenjwa ku-El yethulwa ngokuhamba kwesikhathi.
Ngicabanga ukuthi kunenqwaba yezazi ezingamaJuda ezingavumelani nawe. Hlola: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J84zSeKaDkU
Yebo-ke babeyokwenza, ngoba uYHWH wenza uNkulunkulu abukeke njengoNkulunkulu wama-Israyeli kuphela, kanti u-El naye wayekhulekelwa ngabanye abantu. Bona ividiyo owabelane ngayo empendulweni yakho edlule: Endabeni evuthayo ehlathini eBhayibhelini, isitshela ukuthi igama elithi YHWH laqalwa kanjani futhi nini okokuqala ngqa. Sicela wazi ukuthi uNkulunkulu uthi lapho kuMose athi: Ngingu (EHYE) ukuthumile. UMose ukuguqula lokho kumuntu wesithathu Unguye (YAHWE). Ngakho-ke ngokusobala akulona igama, kuphela kubhekiswa kuNkulunkulu / El. Kamuva kusetshenzisiwe ukwenza konke... Funda kabanzi "
@Ifionlyhadabrain Izinto ezikwenza uhambe hmmmmm… Inothi eliseceleni - ufuna ukushukumisa indikimba yabadala ngempela? Lapho uvala umkhuleko wasobala ngo “ngegama likaJesu”,… makubekhona ikhefu elide impela ngaphambi kuka-amen. Abanye ebandleni bazovele bakhamise bathi AMEN! Bese uthi amen! Sathintwa kuleso futhi. Ngichazile ukuthi yimina ebengithandaza futhi okuqukethwe yikho kwagcizelelwa yibandla. Ngibe sengiphinda ukwamukela kwabo ngo-amen (yebo) ngethemba lokuthi umthandazo wamabandla ufinyelela kuBaba wethu waseZulwini. Indaba yokuphila eyiqiniso ehlekisayo - Odade abathathu abadala ngokushesha... Funda kabanzi "
Kuzwakala kunengqondo kimi.
Uma sicabangisisa kahle, singasho yini ukuthi ukusetshenziswa kwegama likaNkulunkulu ngokungadingekile kungafaka ukubiza lelo gama emthandazweni noma enkulumweni kaninginingi okwenza igama lifanane negama lanoma yimuphi umuntu ojwayelekile / ojwayelekile emgwaqweni? Kwesinye isikhathi ngizizwa kufana nokwehlisa inani legama. Igama likaNkulunkulu lingcwele futhi lingcwele kanti ngenkathi singekho izinkolelo njengamaJuda, ngicabanga ukuthi asikho isidingo sokukhuluma ngegama kaningi enkulumweni yeningi, engxoxweni ejwayelekile nabazalwane ngokholo, noma ngomkhuleko. Ungubaba wethu... Funda kabanzi "
Ngqo, phakathi nesonto emthandazweni wokuphetha owagcina cishe nge-2min washo igama elithi Jehova 11 times! Cha, ukweqisa. Kwakuyizikhathi ze-11 ngempela.
Igama ligxunyekwe ezingqondweni zofakazi, akumangazi ngempela ukuthi inqabayokulinda iyakwenza futhi, esifundweni sangesonto eledlule kube nezikhathi lapho igama lishiwo amahlandla ama-3 esigabeni esisodwa njengokukhulekelwa, ujesu waze wathi “ungasho izinto ezifanayo kaninginingi, basebenzisa igama njengegama lentshebe, kwesinye isikhathi, futhi empeleni ujesu wathi ngokusondela kuNkulunkulu umbiza ngobaba, hhayi ngegama lakhe, cha kukhona okungahambi kahle kakhulu ngalo lonke i-JW set up funny wazi eyendodana yami... Funda kabanzi "
"Intshebe yegama", yebo. Yileyo ndlela evame ukusetshenziswa ngayo emithandazweni.
@Mike You said, "Imvamisa, lelo qiniso elibucayi likhulunywa kuphela ngama-JW ngendlela ecishe ifane ekugcineni komthandazo." - Eminyakeni eminingana edlule ngavula umhlangano ngomkhuleko futhi ngawuqala “ngegama likaJesu. Ngemuva komhlangano, umbonisi owengamele weza kimi wangitshela ukuthi angizange ngiwuvale umthandazo “ngegama likaJesu” nokuthi ibandla belikulindele ukuthi ngenze lokho. Ngithe ngivula umthandazo ngegama "lakhe" obekufanele ngokuphelele athi uthe lokho kwadida ibandla. Ngathi, "ungabaphambanisi". Kwakubukeka njengaye... Funda kabanzi "
Kulungile impela, ngiyakhukhuleka, kungithinte isikhashana emuva kunengqondo kakhulu ukuvula umthandazo ngegama likaJesu, engqondweni yami ujesu uhlobo lwengxoxo esithola ngaye ubaba, ukusebenzisa umfanekiso ongahluziwe lapha , uma ufuna ukukhuluma nomuntu kufanele uthathe ifoni kuqala bese ukhuluma, ungakhulumi bese uthatha ifoni ngemuva kokuqeda ukukhuluma, haha haha haha,, uxolo ngalokho!
Empeleni ngenkathi sikule ndaba yokuthandaza, yini inkinga ukukhuluma nojesu uqobo, impela sivunyelwe ukwenza lokho, abantu bakhuluma naye ngenkathi esemhlabeni njengendoda, kungani kungenjalo manje, kubonakala kimi ukuthi maqondana ne-JWS uJesus ubukeka esusiwe ekuhlanganyeleni ngandlela thile, futhi ofakazi bavinjelwe ukukhuluma naye, kepha bavunyelwe ukukhuluma ngokukhululeka kunoma ngubani omunye,
Kungani kungenjalo? Uthe uzoba nabalandeli bakhe kuze kuphele iminyaka yobudala / uhlelo lwezinto. Ukungamnaki emthandazweni kube sengathi ukhona ukuletha imithandazo yethu kuBaba ngokuzenzakalela uma sithi “ngegama likaJesu” mhlawumbe kungenye yezimiso ezingasetshenziswa kahle enhlanganweni.
Ngiyavuma. Kungilethela engqondweni yami Math. 6: 5 lapho uJesu athi singathandazi njengabaFarisi abathanda ukubonwa ngabantu. Ngiyazi ukuthi kufanelekile ukuthandazela ibandla, kepha kuhle ukukuxuba kancane ngaphakathi kwemingcele yemibhalo.
Sawubona ngemfudumalo kubo bonke, Yebo leyo impikiswano enkulu uma labo obakhulumayo benezinhloso zangempela futhi benenhliziyo eqotho. Angazi ngomkhathi wazo zonke izindawo ezahlukahlukene kepha ukuthi sikuphi lokho kungasenza sisuswe ekuhlanganyeleni kuze kube manje siyivimbile leyo Bullet futhi kwenze abanye abadala basangana. Ngicabanga ukuthi abanye abadala basebenzise indlela yabo yokuthi lapho bengaphumelelanga kubanikeze i-jab eqinile ku-ego ikakhulukazi evela kumuntu onjengami abayibheka njengengabalulekile ukuthi size kulokhu... Funda kabanzi "
Ngicabanga ukuthi kungenzeka kakhulu ukuthi inhlangano yephula umyalo wesithathu akufanele usebenzise igama lenkosi ngeze, ngokusobala lokhu ekuqaleni bekuhlobene nokusebenzisa lelo gama ukufunga ukukholisa abanye ukuthi esikushoyo kuyiqiniso futhi Kuyiqiniso, ngenkathi ukuzenzisa kunenye inhloso, Sesishilo ukuthi bacaphuna ukusetshenziswa kwamagama onkulunkulu njengobufakazi bokuthi inkolo nabalandeli bayo baneqiniso, uma sisebenzisa amagama onkulunkulu ngale ndlela bese senza ubuzenzisi bese sithatha igama leNkosi ize... Funda kabanzi "
Uma kubhekwa ukuqhathanisa kukaEksodusi 20: 7 lapho kutholakala khona lo myalo, kubonakala sengathi ukuthatha igama likaNkulunkulu ngeze kusho ukuliphatha njengelingelutho noma elingabalulekile, noma ukulisebenzisa ngokungathembeki noma ngandlela thile. Ukube abantu bebengagxila egameni likaNkulunkulu lesiHeberu futhi "basule" ngempumelelo igama nenhloso nokufeziwe kwendodana Yakhe, lokho bekungaba yimizamo yokuchitha injongo kaNkulunkulu yokuhlenga isintu. Ibhayibheli lithi ukufakaza ngoJesu yikho okukhuthaza ukuphrofetha. Kwakungeyona neze injongo kaNkulunkulu ukuthi indodana yaKhe “ihlale eceleni”, yamukele noma iziphi “izigaxa”... Funda kabanzi "
I-JW yinkolo ye-judeo-christian egxile kakhulu kuma-judeo,
I-WT imba ngamandla emithethweni yamaJuda, kubukeka sengathi abayitholi imemo… 'hlola izibuyekezo'
Ngiyakujabulela ukukhombisa ama-JWs lesi sicaphuno esenziwe yiKomiti Yezwe Elisha Yokuhumusha ekhasini 23 le-Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures: “Ngenkathi sithambekele ekubhekeni ukubizwa ngegama elithi 'Yahweh' njengendlela enembile, sigcine igama elithi 'Jehova' ngoba abantu bayayazi kusukela ngekhulu le-14. ” Uma u-'Yahweh 'eyindlela enembe kakhudlwana, kulandela ukuthi u-'Jehova' akulona igama lakhe. Ngisola isizathu sangempela sokugcina ifomu elithi Jehova ukuthi uRutherford wayeqambe inkolo ngokuthi oFakazi BakaJehova. Ngokwengqondo ye-JW ejwayelekile, elithi Jehova ne-Watchtower kuyafana.... Funda kabanzi "
Iphuzu lokutadisha elisanda kwenziwa (phakathi nonyaka ngiyakholelwa) ligcizelele isidingo> sokungabi ngokweqile lapho sibiza igama likaNkulunkulu.
Ngokuzimisela?
Sikhuluma ngegama likaNkulunkulu, yebo?
Sawubona Roger. Uma uYahweh eyiyona ndlela eyiyo kunoJehova ngaphandle kokuthi eyokugcina ithandwa kakhulu ngaleso sikhathi, yiziphi ezinye izizathu ezibalulekile zokusebenzisa leli gama kuze kube manje? Ngokunjalo, igama noma umcimbi othile ungathandwa kakhulu ngesikhathi esithile, kepha uma into enjalo ingagxilile eqinisweni, ehlotshaniswa nomthombo ovela kweLobukholwa, oyiphutha noma ongabazisayo, kufanele ngabe abantu bakaNkulunkulu bayayisebenzisa, baze bafike ezingeni ngokuziqhenya ngokweqile ngokuyihlanganyela nabanye? Ingabe ukuthandwa kufanele kube yinto esemqoka ekusetshenzisweni kwegama likaNkulunkulu -... Funda kabanzi "
Omunye umbuzo omuhle uthi, uma ngingumKristu weqiniso (okusho ukuthi ngingumlandeli kaKristu futhi ngikholelwa ngempela ukuthi uyindodana kaJehova) kanye ne-JW, yini uJesu ayilindele kimi uqobo? Ngamazwi akhe kuMat. 28: 18- "Nginikwe lonke igunya ezulwini nasemhlabeni." Ngakho-ke, ingabe kuyinhlonipho ngoJesu noBaba wethu uJehova ukweqa igunya likaJesu nezindlela zokusindiswa kwethu ngokubhekisa njalo kuJehova kuphela, noma ngabe sinezinhloso ezinhle? Uma umuntu ecabanga ngempela bese ekholwa amazwi kaJesu uqobo, bekungaba njalo... Funda kabanzi "
Sawubona Mike, ungamangali ngalokhu ngoba ezinsukwini zokugcina, “iNdikimba Ebusayo” izothatha indawo ekhetheke kakhulu enhlanganweni kunoKristu Jesu. Kungani?
Emhlanganweni wethu wakamuva noMbonisi Wesifunda, uthe “ngokweNdikimba Ebusayo, ukukhulekela komndeni sekuyindlela yokusindiswa.” Angizange ngikukholwe engikuzwile.
I-WT iqinisekisa ukuthi i-YHWH / JHVH isho ukuthi “Lowo owenza ukuba kube”. Lokho kungahle noma kungabi enembile ngokuphelele, kepha ngenxa yengxoxo, ake sithi kusondele encazelweni eyiyo. Uma kunjalo, yiliphi igama lesiNgisi elidlulisa kakhulu umqondo waleyo ncazelo? "Mdali". Manje, ake sithi sonke isimo sika “Jehova” ku-NWT sithathelwe indawo ngu “Mdali”. Ingabe bekungayishintsha kakhulu incazelo yeBhayibheli? Kungaba wukungahloniphi, noma ukwehluleka ukunika uNkulunkulu udumo Lwakhe olufanele nolufanele? Ngabe bakhona abanye onkulunkulu bamanga, noma ngabe kukhulunywa ngabo eBhayibhelini noma cha, bangabizwa ngokufanelekile ngokuthi “uMdali” ngaphandle kwaKhe?... Funda kabanzi "
Uma sisebenzisa uJesu kaningi noma ngokumemezela inkosi uJesu i-jw izizwa ingakhululekile angikukholwa ... ingabe sithukululwe ingqondo yethu? inkolo ye-jw ibukeka yanda ngokwengeziwe eyenziwe ngumuntu, ngesikhathi isabelo sikasathane sikhula, ngiyazama ukukhuluma ngalokho kwabanye ebandleni futhi anginakho ukusabela, senza izinto ngokwesiko, senza izinto ikakhulu ngo imizwa hhayi ngokubonisana futhi bakhululekile ngalokho. asikho kangcono kunangekhulu lokuqala lapho benqaba ukubiza igama likaNkulunkulu ngaphandle kokuthi nathi senze okufanayo... Funda kabanzi "
Amaphuzu akulesi sihloko ayiqiniso impela. Ngiye ngazizwa, iminyaka eminingi manje ukuthi ama-JWs asebenzisa igama likaNkulunkulu kaningi kakhulu. Kimina, igama likaBaba wethu waseZulwini lingcwele kakhulu. Ngakho-ke, ngikholwa ukuthi kumele isetshenziswe ngenhlonipho ejulile nangokuqonda. Ngokwami, noma nini lapho ngithandaza, ngizosebenzisa igama elithi Jehova kanye, ekuqaleni komthandazo kanye nokubhekisa eNkosini yethu uJesu Kristu njengomhlengi nomsindisi wami. Bese ngizizwa ngikwazi ukukhuluma noBaba wethu ngendlela esondelene naye. Kubukeka sengathi kunqoba, phakathi kwama-JW amaningi umuzwa wokuthi ngokusebenzisa... Funda kabanzi "
Wabeka kahle, Mkristu
UJesu Kristu akaze abukelwe emhlanganweni wesifunda kulo nyaka. Ngezwa izikhalazo ezimbalwa kusenesikhathi, kodwa lokho kwakukhona konke. Njengoba usho konke ukunakwa kugxilwe kuJehova, futhi uma uzama ukulungisa ibhalansi njengoba katrina esho kaningi baphendukela kuwe bekubukeka sengathi uyisihlubuki, bakholelwa ku-tratu. Dumele kakhulu.
“Engxoxweni yeBhayibheli umaka umuntu njengelungu lenkolo yamanga, ukwehluleka ukusebenzisa igama elithi“ Jesu ”kungakhombisani?”
Yisho uJesu kaningi emngceleni wakho wokuba yisihlubuki sikaZiqu-zintathu. Kuhlala njalo kwehle ku-tratu engiwutholile, noma iyiphi ingxoxo ejulile ku-org namaphutha i-JW izokhuphuza ubutatu. Kuyamangaza.
Ngikwazile ukumisa ingxoxo efile eqenjini lezimoto zasensimini ngokuthi, “Akumangalisi yini ukuthi iNkosi yethu uJesu iyibusisa kanjani inkonzo yethu.” OFakazi abaphatheki kahle ngegama elithi “iNkosi yethu uJesu” yize lingokweBhayibheli ngokuphelele. Kubenza bacabange ngabashumayeli bevangeli.
ivangeli (ilicalvanˈdʒɛlɪk (ə) l, ɛvanˈdʒɛlɪk (ə) l /), isiphawulo
"Noma ngokusho kwemfundiso yevangeli noma inkolo yobuKristu."
Hhawu isithunzi! 😉
Ngishaqekile - NGITHUKILE, uyezwa? - ukuthi amaKristu azokhuluma ngegama likaKristu.
(Kubolekwe ngenkululeko kuCasablanca :-))
Kungani? ngoba izingqondo zethu sezihlelwe zafakwa kabusha ku-wired kangangokuthi ukukhulunywa nje ngoJesu Kristu kuba yinto engaziwa. Kufana nokulalela isigqi osilalele iminyaka eminingi futhi ngokungazelelwe kufakwa i-lyric entsha ungahlosile. Ngeke kuzwakale kahle.
Ngicabanga ukuthi abazalwane abajwayele ukuxoxa ngoJesu ngendlela ehlelekile kungasaphathwa ukuthi bamdumise phakathi kweqembu ngendlela engenabala. Yonke ingxoxo kufanele igxiliswe kuJehova. Lokhu kuyadabukisa.