Ka uhi ʻana i ka Mokuna 5 Wanana 10-17 o Na Mana Aupuni o ke Akua
Mai ka pauku 10:
"Nā makahiki ma mua o 1914, ua hoʻomaopopo mua ka poʻe Kristiano maoli e hoʻopaʻa ʻia ʻo 144,000 i nā mea hilinaʻi me Kristo ma ka lani. Ua ʻike nā haumāna o ka Baibala i ka helu maoli a ʻo ka helu ʻana a ua hoʻomaka i nā kenekulia mua.
ʻĀ, kā hewa lākou.
ʻOiaʻiʻo inā he mea kūpono no nā mea hoʻolaha e hana i nā kuhi ʻana ʻo unsubstantiated, maikaʻi loa iā mākou e hana like. I ka ʻōlelo ʻana, e hoʻāʻo mākou e hōʻoia i kā mākou.
Hōʻike ka Hōʻike 1: 1 i ka hōʻike ʻana iā Ioane i hōʻike ʻia i nā hōʻailona, a i ʻole nā hōʻailona. No laila inā kānalua, no ke aha e helu ai i kahi helu maoli? Hōʻike ka Hōʻike 7: 4-8 e pili ana i 12,000 i lawe ʻia mai kēlā me kēia ʻohana he ʻumikumamālua o ʻIseraʻela. ʻO ka paukū 8 e pili ana i ka ʻohana a Iosepa. ʻOiai ʻaʻohe ʻohana o Iosepa, pono kēia e lilo i laʻana o kekahi o nā hōʻailona a i ʻole nā hōʻailona i koho ʻia no kekahi mea ʻē aʻe. I kēia pae, ʻaʻole pono mākou e hoʻomaopopo i ka mea i hōʻike ʻia, akā e hoʻohana wale ʻia kahi hōʻailona ma mua o kahi mea maoli. Ma hope o kēia noʻonoʻo ʻana, haʻi ʻia iā mākou ka helu i hōʻailona ʻia mai kēlā me kēia ʻohana he 12,000. Hiki i kekahi ke sila i ka 12,000 poʻe maoli mai ka ʻohana hōʻailona? Aia kekahi kumu e manaʻoʻiʻo ai e hui ʻia nā mea maoli ma aneʻi me nā mea hōʻailona? E manaʻo paha mākou i kēlā me kēia ʻohana 12 e hōʻike nei, like ka helu like o nā kānaka i ʻike ʻia he kūpono mai kēlā me kēia ʻohana. Kuhi paha ia i nā kānāwai ʻelua o ke kūpono a me ke ʻano o ke kūʻokoʻa.
Ua ʻōlelo mai ka puke Insight: "No laila, he ʻumikumamālua e hōʻike ana i ka hoʻonohonoho paʻa ʻana a ma ke ʻano o ke Akua." (it-2 p. 513)
Ma muli o ka helu 12, a me nā nunui, ua hoʻohana ʻia "e hōʻike i kahi hoʻonohonoho holoʻokoʻa, kaulike, hoʻokumu ʻia e ke Akua," ʻo ia ka mea i hōʻike ʻia ma Hōʻike 7: 4-8, manaʻo lākou he ʻokoʻa ke hiki i ka helu 144,000? Kūlike paha ia me nā ʻohana 12 hōʻailona X 12,000 i hōʻailona ʻia i kekahi = 144,000 i hoʻopaʻa maoli ʻia?
Mai ka pauku 11:
“Aka, eia hoi kela poe lālā koho i mare ai i ka wahine a Kristo i hana ai e noho ana lakou ma ka honua? ʻIke lākou ua hoʻonui nui ʻo Iesū i ka hana haipule a ua hoʻopili ia i ka manawa o ke hōʻiliʻili. ^ E Ha yM. (Mat. 9: 37; John 4: 35) E like me kā mākou i ʻike ai ma ka Mokuna 2, no ka manawa ua paʻa lākou e mau loa ana ka makahiki o 40, e pili pū ana me ka hōʻuluʻulu ʻana o ka poʻe i poni ʻia i ka lani. Eia naʻe, no ka mea ua hoʻomau ʻia ka hana ma hope o nā makahiki he 40, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka wehewehe. I kēia manawa ua ʻike mākou i ka manawa o ka hōʻiliʻili - ʻo ka manawa no ka hoʻokaʻawale ʻana i ka palaoa mai ka huʻu, ʻo nā Kristiano i poni ʻia pono me ka poʻe hoʻohālike e pili ana iā lākou. Ua hiki mai ka manawa e nānā pono ai i ka ʻohi ʻana o ke koena o kēlā papa lani! "
Ua ʻae ka mea kākau ua hewa mākou e pili ana i ka ʻohiʻohi e hoʻomaka ana i 1874 a pau i ka 1914, akā i kēia manawa ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia "ʻike" mākou - ʻaʻole manaʻoʻiʻo, akā "ʻike" - ua hoʻomaka ka ʻohi ma 1914 a hoʻomau a hiki i ko mākou lā. No hea mai kēia ʻike pololei? Kuhi ʻia mai nā palapala ʻelua e pili pū me kēia ʻōlelo.
"A laila ʻōlelo akula ia i kāna mau haumāna," ʻAe, nui ka ʻohi ʻana, akā ua liʻiliʻi ka poʻe lawehana. "(Mt 9: 37)
"ʻAʻole anei ʻoe e ʻōlelo ma nā mahina ʻehā ma mua o ka hōʻea ʻana o ka hōʻiliʻili ʻana? Ga u! E n i. ʻLelo wau iā ʻoe, E ʻalawa a ʻike i nā mahina, ua keʻokeʻo lākou no ka ʻohi ʻana. ʻAno ʻokoʻa ”(Joh 4: 35)
ʻAʻole ʻōlelo ʻo Iesū i ka ʻohiʻohi e nui. ʻLelo ʻo ia i kēia au. Eia nō naʻe i kēia manawa, haʻi ʻo ia i kāna mau haumāna e nānā i nā mahinaʻai i ia manawa, i kona lā, "keʻokeʻo no ka ʻohiʻohi ʻana". He aha nā gymnastics noʻonoʻo e pono ai mākou e hana i ka construe "e" e pili ana i nā kūlana 19 mau kenekulia i mua? I kekahi manawa me he mea lā ke ʻano o ka hana a nā mea paʻi e loaʻa ai kahi "palapala hōʻoia" e hana i kahi hulina ma kahi huaʻōlelo nui a huaʻōlelo paha, e like me "ʻohi", a laila hoʻopili wale i kēlā mau hopena i ke kino o kahi ʻatikala a lana ka manaʻo ʻaʻole e makemake kekahi e nānā ʻaʻole pono nā Palapala Hemolele no ke kuhi.
Mai ka pauku 12:
"Mai 1919 i kahi i hala, hoʻomau ʻo Kristo i ke alakaʻi a me ka naʻauao e hoʻomālamalama i ka hana haʻi. Ua hana ʻo ia i kēlā hana i ka makahiki mua. (Mat. 28: 19, 20) ”
Wahi a kēia, ua hana i ka makahiki mua, ʻaʻole naʻe i hana ʻia i ke kauwā hilinaʻi me ka naʻauao, no ka mea, ʻo kā mākou ʻike hou ʻana ʻaʻohe mea pono ʻole a me ka naʻauao a hiki i 1919. No laila ʻo ka papahana hānai a nā haku i kau ai ma mua o ka haʻalele ʻana, ʻaʻole ia i manaʻo e hoʻomau i kāna mau home ma hope o kona haʻalele ʻana i 33 CE, ʻaʻole hoʻi i hānai ʻia i nā kenetulope. ʻO Kekahi wale nō ka 20th ʻO nā kenekulia ke kāhea hale i ka nele o nā mea pono faaleagaga.
Poina e pili ana i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻaʻohe mea hōʻoia no kēia ʻike hou. E nīnau iā ʻoe iho inā he lohi ia.
Paukū 14 a me 15
Ke kamaʻilio nei kēia mau paukū i ka ʻike hewa i loaʻa i nā "Kalikiano ʻoiaʻiʻo" ma mua a ma loko o nā makahiki mua o ko Rutherford noho pelekikena ʻana. Ua manaʻoʻiʻo lākou i nā lana ʻehā: ʻelua no ka lani a ʻelua no ka honua. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻo kēia mau ʻike hewa ka hopena o ka manaʻo kanaka a me ka wehewehe ʻana o ke kanaka e pili ana i nā antitypes i hana ʻia. He aha kahi kolohe a mākou e hoʻokomo ai iā mākou iho i ka wā a mākou e hoʻokau nei i ka naʻau kanaka a me nā moʻolelo o ka Palapala Hemolele i kahi par me ka ʻōlelo a ke Akua.
Ua loli paha kekahi mea i ka makahiki 20 a me 30? Ua aʻo anei mākou i kā mākou haʻawina? Ua haʻalele ʻia ka hoʻohana ʻana o antitypes speculative? Ua hilinaʻi wale ka ʻike hou e pili ana i ke ola hou ʻana i ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia ma ka Palapala Hemolele?
Ua aʻo ʻia mākou i kēia manawa ʻaʻole hewa nā ʻano a me nā antitypes i ʻike ʻole ʻia ma ka Palapala Hemolele a hele i mua o ka mea i kākau ʻia. ʻAʻole pono lākou e hoʻokumu i ke kumu o ke aʻo ʻana. (E nānā Hele i kahi mea i kākau ʻiaHāʻawi ʻia i kēia, ke manaʻo nei paha mākou ua hōʻea ka poʻe ʻike ma lalo o Rutherford i ka makahiki 30 i kahi ʻike maoli i ka manaʻolana o ke alahou - kahi ʻike e hoʻomau nei mākou e paʻa a hiki i kēia lā - ʻaʻole i pili i nā ʻano a me nā antitypes a me nā manaʻo hihiu, akā ma ka palapala maoli. hōʻike? Heluhelu mai.
Palaka 16
Auwe, me he mea lā ua makemake ke Kālā Aupuni e hōʻole i kāna ʻaha ponoʻī e hōʻole ai i nā antitypes i hana ʻia e ke kanaka ke hiki mai i kāna mau aʻo i aloha nui ʻia. No laila, koi lākou i nā ʻike hou i hōʻike ʻia mai ka 1923 a ʻoi aʻe he "ʻālohilohi o ke kukui" i hōʻike ʻia e Iesu Kristo ma o ka ʻuhane laʻa.
"Pehea pehea ka alakaʻi o ka ʻUhane Hemolele i nā mea ʻike a Kristo e aloha ai mākou i kēia lā? ʻO ia ka holomua, ma o nā ʻina uila o ka mālamalama ʻuhane. I ka hoʻomaka ʻana ma 1923, ua nānā ka Watch Tower i kahi hui me nā manaʻo ʻole i ka lani e noho ai ma ka honua ma lalo o ka noho aliʻi ʻana o Kristo. Ma 1932, kūkākūkā ʻo The Watchtower iā Ionadaba (Jehonadab), ka mea i hui pū me ia i ke aliʻi poni a ke Akua poni a ke Akua e kākoʻo iā ia i ke kaua kūʻē i ka hoʻomana hoʻomana. (2 Ki. 10: 15-17) ʻ saidlelo aʻe ka ʻatikala, aia kekahi papa o nā kānaka i kēia mau wā e like me Ionadaba, e hoʻohui ana ʻo Iēhova e lawe i kēia papa "ma o ka pilikia Armageddon" e noho ai ma ka honua. " - par. 16
No laila ʻo ka papa Jonadab antitypical i hōʻike mua ʻia i kahi papa Kristiano ʻole-poni, ʻaʻole nā keiki a ke Akua, he "uila o ka mālamana ʻuhane" mai iā Iesu Kristo? Kohu mea lā, ua hoʻomālamalama aku ʻo Iesū i ka mālamalama e hōʻike ana nā kūlanakauhale ʻeono i ke ola o kēia papa kiʻekiʻe o ka poʻe Kalikiano i ʻike ʻia ʻo nā Hipa ʻē aʻe. A ʻo ka hōʻoia o kēia ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia e ka Hale Hōʻikeʻike.
No laila, pono mākou e hōʻole i nā antitypes i ʻike ʻole ma ka Palapala Hemolele kahi a haʻi ʻia i ʻole. I ka pōkole, ʻo ia ka nūpepa, ʻaʻole ka Baibala, he mea hōʻike iā mākou i ka mea maoli a me ka hewa.
Paukū 17 a me ka pahu "ʻO kahi hōʻailona nui o ka hōʻoluʻolu"
Hāʻawi ʻia ʻaʻohe mea hōʻike i ka Palapala Hemolele e kākoʻo i kēia aʻo, pono i ka ʻĀpana Hoʻokele e hoʻāʻo e hōʻuluʻulu i nā hōʻike e hoʻohana ana i nā ʻano ʻē aʻe. ʻO kekahi o kā lākou mea hana punahele nā anecdotes. I kēia hihia, ua ʻoluʻolu ka poʻe e hoʻolohe nei i kā Rutherford kamaʻilio, no laila he ʻoiaʻiʻo kāna mea i ʻōlelo ai. Inā ʻo ka helu o ka poʻe e ʻae i ke aʻo ʻana he hōʻoiaʻiʻo ia he ʻoiaʻiʻo, a laila pono mākou e hilinaʻi i ka Trinity, a i ʻole evolution paha, a i ʻole ʻelua paha.
He hoaaloha maikaʻi kaʻu e hōʻole ʻole i nā hōʻike anecdotal, akā ma kēia kumuhana, hana ʻo ia. ʻLelo ʻo ia iaʻu no kona tūtū wahine ʻo ia kekahi o kēia poʻe i hōʻoluʻolu i ka haʻi ʻia ʻana ʻaʻohe ona manaʻolana lani. ʻO kēia, nona, he hōʻike hōʻoia.
ʻO ke kumu, manaʻoʻiʻo ʻole wau, aia ka nui o ke kūʻē i kahi lana hoʻokahi no ka poʻe Karistiano ʻaʻole makemake ka hapa nui iā ia. Makemake lākou e ola mau loa ma ke ʻano he ʻōpio a kanaka hemolele. ʻO wai ka makemake ʻole i kēlā? Akā ke hāʻawi ʻia ka manawa kūpono ma ka "ala hou ʻana" ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi, no lākou wale nō, "Mahalo iā Iēhova, akā mahalo ʻole." (He 11:35) Manaʻo wau ʻaʻohe a lākou mea e hopohopo ai, ʻoiai — ʻoiai he manaʻo wale nō kēia. Aia no mahope o ke alahouana o ka poe pono ole. No laila ʻaʻole e nalo kēia mau mea. Hoʻoluhi paha lākou i ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana aia lākou i loko o ka hui like me nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, ʻo ka poʻe me ka manaʻoʻiʻo ʻole, akā e hoʻopau lākou.
Eia nō naʻe, e ʻike mākou ua hoʻomaka mua ʻia ka poʻe hoʻolohe ʻo Rutherford. ʻO ka mea mua he huikau kāu i hana ʻia e nā manaolana ʻehā mua o ke ola. A laila ua koʻikoʻi ʻoe i nā ʻatikala 1923 ma mua. ʻO ka hope loa, ua hiki mai ka ʻatikala ʻāina ʻelua ʻāpana i 1934 i hoʻolauna ʻia i ke aʻo a nā hipa ʻē aʻe. Hāʻawi ʻia i kēia hoʻomākaukau a pau, he mea haohao paha i ka lawe ʻana mai o ka naʻau o ka ʻaha kūkā i ka hopena i hōʻike ʻia i loko o ka pahu, "He hōʻailona nui o ke kōkua"? ʻO nā mea āpau a Rutherford i hana pū ai.
A ʻōlelo e pili ana i ka 1934 Landmark Article
ʻAʻole i hōʻike ʻia kēia noiʻi ʻana i ka ʻatikala noiʻi ʻaoʻao ʻelua o ka makahiki 1934 i paʻi ʻia ma ʻAukake 1 a me 15 pukana o kēlā makahiki. Kupaianaha kēia no ka mea ʻo kēia ʻāpana ʻelua, i kapa ʻia ʻo "Kona ʻoluʻolu", ʻo ia ka linchpin o ke aʻo a nā Hipa ʻē aʻe. ʻO ia ka ʻatikala i hōʻike mua ʻia i kēia "ʻālohilohi malamalama o ka mālamalama" i ka Hui o nā ʻIke o Iēhova. Eia nō naʻe, i loko o kēia aʻo ʻana o kēia pule, alakaʻi ʻia ka mea heluhelu e manaʻoʻiʻo ʻaʻole ia a hiki i ka makahiki 1935 ua aʻo ʻia e nā poʻe ʻike o Iēhova e pili ana i kēia "ʻoiaʻiʻo hou" ʻO ka mōʻaukala ʻoiaʻiʻo ua ʻike lākou e pili ana i ia i hoʻokahi makahiki piha ma mua. ʻAʻole wehewehe ʻo Rutherford i kahi mea hou, akā ke haʻi hou nei i ka mea i ʻike ʻia.
ʻO ka mea i ʻike nui ʻia ma ka ʻimi ʻana i nā ʻatikala a me nā puke paʻi e wehewehe ana i ka hoʻolauna ʻia ʻana o kēia aʻo ʻana i nā ʻIke o Iēhova e kapa mau nei i ka inoa 1935 ma ke ʻano he makahiki hoʻomanaʻo a me ka haʻi ʻole ʻana i kēia mau ʻatikala ʻelua mai ka makahiki i hala. Ke kōkua nei i ka 1930-1985 WT Reference Index ʻaʻole kōkua kekahi. Ma lalo o nā hipa ʻē aʻe -> Kūkākūkā, ʻaʻole e loaʻa. ʻOiai ma lalo o ka subheading Nā Hipa ʻē aʻe -> ʻo Jehonadab, ʻaʻole ia i kuhikuhi ʻia. Pēlā nō, ma lalo o nā Hipa ʻē aʻe -> Ke kūlanakauhale ʻo Puʻuhonua, ʻaʻohe mea i haʻi ʻia i kekahi ʻatikala i ka makahiki 1934. Eia nō naʻe nā mea kamaʻilio nui o kēia ʻatikala; nā antitypes kī i hoʻokumu ʻia ai ke aʻo ʻana. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, hoʻokumu wale ʻia ke aʻo ma nā antitypes. ʻAʻohe pilina o ka palapala hemolele ma waena o John 10: 16 a i ʻole Hōʻike 7: 9 a me nā Palapala Hemolele e ʻōlelo nei e pili ana i ke ala hou ʻana o ka honua. Inā aia, e hana hou ʻia i kēlā me kēia ʻatikala e kūkākūkā ana i ka mea i kapa ʻia ka manaʻolana honua.
ʻAno ʻē ka hōʻalo ʻōnaehana ʻike pono ʻole i kekahi kuhikuhi i kēia mau Watchtowers ʻelua. Ua like ia me ke kamaʻilio ʻana e pili ana i nā kānāwai i hoʻokumu ʻia ma ke Kumukanawai o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, akā ʻaʻole naʻe e ʻōlelo ʻana i ke kumukānāwai ponoʻī.
No ke aha ka ʻatikala i hoʻomaka ai e hoʻopau ʻia a pau mai ka hoʻomanaʻo ʻana o nā ʻike a Iēhova? Hiki paha i ka mea e heluhelu ana ke ʻike ʻaʻole kumu i loko o ka Baibala no kēia aʻo ʻana? Paipai wau e nānā nā mea āpau ma ka pūnaewele. Eia ka loulou: Hoʻoiho i ka helu 1934 puke. Loaʻa ka ʻāpana mua o ke aʻo ʻana ma ka ʻaoʻao 228. ʻO ka hoʻomau ʻana ma ka ʻaoʻao 244. Paipai wau iā ʻoe e lawe i ka manawa e heluhelu ai iā ʻoe iho. E noʻonoʻo pono e pili ana i kēia aʻo.
E hoʻomanaʻo, ʻo kēia ka manaolana a mākou e haʻi aku ai. ʻO kēia ka leka o ka nūhou maikaʻi i haʻi ʻia iā mākou e hoʻolaha nei nā mea ʻike i nā kihi ʻehā o ka honua. Inā he manaʻolana aloha ʻole ia, aia nō i kahi moʻohelu kālā. (Ga 1: 8, 9)
He ʻoiaʻiʻo ka ʻōlelo a ke Akua: inaina wau e haki iā ʻoe akā ʻaʻole mākou nā mea ʻike ʻelua. ʻO lākou he mau kāula 2 e hiki mai ana. E waiho wau iā ia.
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Hui. ʻIke wale i nā manaʻo āpau e pili ana i ka 144,000. Kekahi mea liʻiliʻi: ua maopopo iaʻu ma ka ʻuhane, e hana maoli ke Akua i kahi berita hope loa me kahi koena liʻiliʻi mai ka ʻIseraʻela ma mua o Armageddon. ʻOiaʻiʻo wau no ka mea na ka ʻuhane wau i hoʻomaopopo ai. Ua noʻonoʻo wau i nā paio a pule wau e ʻike inā ʻo ka 144,000 no ʻIseraʻela. ʻAʻole wau i maopopo no ka mea ʻaʻole i hoʻokūpaʻa ka ʻuhane iā ia. E kali wau ma kēlā. ʻO kaʻu mau keneta ʻelua ia inā he mea waiwai ... a ʻo kekahi o... Pākuhi hou »
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Ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au ma mua
kuleana no ka hoʻāla ʻana i ka poʻe!
ʻO nā mea ʻike ʻelua ... Ua ʻike maka mākou i kēia mau mea…. (E like me ka hui a i ʻole ka hanauna-ʻaʻole wau e hoʻāʻo e loaʻa i ka ʻehaʻeha ma luna o kēia mau kumu aʻo)
Ma ka liʻiliʻi inā manaʻo ʻoe he ʻohana uhane ʻo ka ʻohana holoʻokoʻa ʻo Iosepa..maybe?
Ma hope o kahi heluhelu hou ua hilinaʻi wau ʻo ka hihia kēia! Ua hoʻomaka ka make o Methuselah i kahi makahiki hou = ʻO ia ke kī! A ʻo Noa = puke a Enoka a me Maccabees Think Jude! Lana koʻu manaʻo he mea kūpono kēia ... E nānā i kēia ʻano o nā "make" e kū nei - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centenarian– a me nā make i manaʻo ʻole ʻia ma lalo o 70 i loko o ka nūhou ... "120 mau makahiki a hoʻokahi lā". Pēlā kaʻu hoʻopaʻapaʻa i loko o Enoka a me Maccabees i loaʻa i nā manaʻo i hoʻoulu ʻia a me nā ʻike. Inā ʻoe e nānā i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻo "Baibala" ʻo Noa ... Maliʻa paha ʻike ʻoe i kaʻu wahi e hele mai nei? ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu e pili ana i kēia "hāpai ʻana"... Pākuhi hou »
Manaʻo wau he pololei ʻo Ioʻela e pili ana i ka pilikia unuhi me ka ʻeuanelio a John Manaʻo wau ... ʻaʻole nūhou maikaʻi. Ua kānalua wau ua loaʻa kēia puke i kēia ʻano pukana no kekahi kumu. Aia kekahi kumu hewa i ke kumu he pilikia ʻōpilikia kēia. He mea nui loa kēia. I ka manawa hea i make ai ʻo Iesū? ʻIke paha kekahi? ʻO ka "lā / lā ʻekolu"? Hoʻokahi mea hou aʻe ... ʻae ʻia ʻo John i kahi typo. ʻO Paul kekahi. E wehewehe hou aku au ke loaʻa kahi ala maikaʻi e wehewehe ai i kēia. Ok kuʻi mau ʻo AmosAU iaʻu me kēia ʻano mea ... aaarrgh lol pololei ʻo ia e pili ana iā John 1: 1 btw….... Pākuhi hou »
Makemake au e mōakāka kaʻu mau manaʻo e pili ana iā Methuselah ... "Man of the dart / spear", a i ʻole ʻē aʻe "his death will bring judgment" [1]) ʻo ia ke kāne i hōʻike ʻia i ola ka lōʻihi loa i ka makahiki 969 i ka Hebera Baibala. . [2] Ua hoʻomau ka moʻomeheu Extra-biblika ua make ʻo ia ma ka 11th o Cheshvan o ka makahiki 1656AM (Anno Mundi, ma hope o Creation), ʻehiku mau lā ma mua o ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ke kai a Kahinaliʻi Nui. [3] ʻO Metusela ke keiki a Enoka, ka makua kāne o Lameka, a ʻo ke kupuna kāne o Noa. Manaʻo wau ua ʻike ʻo Methuselah iā Adamu a no laila loaʻa iā ia nā kuʻuna waha mai iā ia e hāʻawi i nā hanauna he nui... Pākuhi hou »
Aloha kākou! He nīnau kaʻu e nīnau ai e hoʻopili ana iaʻu. ʻAʻole wau makemake e hoʻomaka i kahi ahi o nā manaʻo no laila e ʻoluʻolu e mahalo i kēia pūnaewele a makemake ia. Ke hāpai nei wau i ka ʻimi ʻana i kahi ʻatikala pili e kūkākūkā e pili ana i kēia ma lalo a i ʻole e hoʻomaka ʻana i kahi kumuhana ma discussthetruth.com He ʻoiaʻiʻo kaʻu nīnau. No ka poʻe hoʻopaʻapaʻa ʻole i ke Kalahala a i ʻole nā ʻano ʻokoʻa e haʻalele i ka hoʻomaopopo Karistiano kuʻuna: He aha kou mau manaʻo e pili ana i ka ʻAina ahiahi Lords? Ke hoʻomau nei ʻo Iesū i kahi kuʻuna Hebera a i ʻole ka hoʻomaka ʻana i kahi mea hou? Eia hou, e ʻoluʻolu mai hoʻohana i nā lexicons e holo iaʻu i nā pōʻai. Kalikiano Kalikiano... Pākuhi hou »
E mālama pono iā Meleti i kāu mau kūkā kamaʻilio ʻana e pili ana i ka "hōʻailona" o ka ʻohana a Iosepa, e ʻoluʻolu e altho i loko o Genesis Jacob / Israel koi iā ʻEperaima a me Manase nona iho nāna e hoʻopōmaikaʻi iā ia (no laila ma ka puʻunaue ʻia ʻana o ka ʻāina o ka ʻāina i hāʻawi ʻia i kēlā me kēia ʻāpana kū kānāwai. E hoʻomaopopo ma kāna wanana moʻo make (hoʻoulu ʻia a hanu ke Akua) i loko o Genesis 49 ua kaulana ʻo Iosepa ma ke ʻano he "ʻohana" i hāʻawi ʻia i kahakaha o "kona wā e hiki mai ana" i ka hopena o nā ʻohana, a ʻo ka paukū 28 e hōʻike pololei ana iā Iosepa ma ke ʻano he ʻohana o ʻO Israel noʻu nei ʻaʻole hewa iki ʻo Revelation... Pākuhi hou »
Poetry ʻOiai pū kekahi. I make me na mea au i ike ai :)
He ʻike maikaʻi loa ko Brother AmosAu e pili ana i ka GT aʻu e ʻae ai me see (www. Discussthetruth.com) He mea pīhoihoi ka manaʻo o kahi "hōʻailona" Armageddon. Manaʻoʻiʻo wau i kahi mea maoli 😉 Akā maliʻa paha ʻelua ???
Manaʻo wau Ke holo nei mākou ma ke ala like ma ka Baibala ... Kupaianaha loa koʻu manaʻo :)
Kupaianaha ke Akua !!!!! Hauʻoli loa wau. ʻO nā nūhou maikaʻi loa i nā wā lōʻihi!
A mahalo a mahalo no ka wehewehe ʻana i nā moʻolelo Genesis! ʻAʻole hiki ke kali e heluhelu hou i kēia manawa!
Btw kuʻuna JW i hoʻololi ʻia ka inoa o Paul ma muli o ka hoʻololi ʻana? ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomanaʻo.
ʻAʻole wau i manaʻo ʻo ia ka hihia i hiki iaʻu ke hewa.
ʻAʻole anei ʻo Saula wale nō ka inoa Roma?
PoetryofProvidence, ʻAʻole kēia he hoʻopaʻapaʻa ikaika akā ma hope o ka heluhelu hou ʻana i kāu kūlana… e noʻonoʻo .. he aha ke kuhi a ke Akua e hoʻololi nei i nā inoa o ʻAberama, ʻo Sarai, ʻo Jacob a pēlā aku. He mea ʻuhane mau ia ma ka Baibala. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ke manaʻo nei ke Akua no mākou e hōʻoia i ka moʻokūʻauhau i kēia ala ma ke ʻano he lāhui ʻuhane i kēia manawa. Nui ka poʻe i kūlike ʻole i ka ʻeuanelio a Paul e ʻōlelo ai. ʻAʻole hiki ke hōʻole ʻia kāna mau paio a ua noi kīnā ʻole ʻo ia i nā poʻomanaʻo kumu mai Genesus i kāna hana! Hāʻawi ʻo Iesū i kēia i ka Revelation to the Paul Paul for the Gentle! Pehea ka poʻe e hoʻopuni ai i kā Petero hōʻoia ʻana o... Pākuhi hou »
Ke pane wale nei ʻo Shannon iā "Iosepa" ʻaʻole i manaʻo ʻia he "ʻohana o ʻIseraʻela" inā ʻaʻole i manaʻo ʻia ke kino a me ka ʻuhane paha, inā paha ua kāhea ʻo Paul i nā lāhui i lilo i poʻe hahai iā Kristo ma ke ʻano "Israel of God" (Gal 6:16) ʻo ka ʻohana hoʻokahi i loko o ka ʻIseraʻela kino a me ka poʻe i hānai ʻia / i hoʻopili ʻia i loko o ke kumuwaina maoli. ʻaʻohe hoʻāʻo maoli i hana ʻia ma aneʻi e pili ana i nā hoʻolaha wānana e hoʻokumu wale ana ua manaʻo ʻia ʻo Iosepa ka ʻohana a hiki i kona hānau ʻana.
Ok ua manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka mea āu i manaʻo ai aia mākou ma ka ʻaoʻao like. Ke haʻohaʻo wale nei wau i ka ʻaoʻao flip o kēia. Ke kuhi nei paha ka poʻe he kuhi ka papa inoa ma Revelation? E nalowale paha wau i kekahi mea ma aneʻi. He aha ka ʻike kuʻuna o kēlā papa inoa? Ke haʻohaʻo nei wau inā ʻo kēia ka ʻīpuka i ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa no kahi hua maoli. ʻO kēia ke alakaʻi iā: –ʻAʻole mālama ʻo Paul Paul i ka Torah ”ʻano o nā paio. (Ua hana ʻo ia ... akā manaʻoʻiʻo wau he "wā ia ma Roma e hana ai e like me ka hana a ko Roma"... Pākuhi hou »
ʻO Poetryof i ʻae ʻia. Mahalo wau iā ʻoe e kaʻana like ana i kēlā me mākou, a ʻae wau me kāu e ʻōlelo nei. Ua manaʻo kekahi e hōʻike ana ka 144,000 i kahi helu i huki wale ʻia mai nā Iudaio maoli, ʻoiai ka "lehulehu" i hōʻike ʻia aʻe e hōʻike ana i kahi helu nui i huki ʻia mai nā lāhui. I kēia hihia, inā he kikoʻī ka helu 144,000, hōʻike wale ia i kahi ʻāpana o ka mea holoʻokoʻa, no laila ʻaʻohe kumu maʻalahi ʻole no ka 144,000 aʻo i aʻo ʻia e nā ʻIke. Eia nō naʻe, pili wau i ka ʻike iā ʻoe – inā ʻoe e heluhelu pololei ana i kāu ʻōlelo – ʻo nā ʻohana he ʻumikūmālua i helu ʻia i ka Israel of God, i... Pākuhi hou »
Aloha Meleti! Lana koʻu manaʻo ua maikaʻi nā mea a pau :) Ke pule mau nei au nāu! No laila ʻo kāu mau ʻōlelo hou e pani nei i kaʻu mau puka āpau. E noho wau i kuʻu ala a e kia wale i ka ʻeuanelio. ʻIke pololei wau i kahi e hele nei kēia. Smh! Mahalo e nā hoahānau no ke aloha, ka ʻoluʻolu a me ke kala ʻana āu i hōʻike mai ai iaʻu a me koʻu ʻohana. ʻAʻole wau makemake e mushy no ka mea ʻo wau he "G" lol Akā ua hoʻopakele ʻoe i koʻu ola .... Eia hou !!! ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke uku aku iā ʻoe…. Hele mai nā waimaka…. Mahalo nui wau no nā kāne a me nā wahine a ke Akua i poni ʻia e aloha mau iā Iesū a... Pākuhi hou »
He mau nīnau maoli wau i kēia. ʻO wai lā ka mea i kākau i ka Apocalypse a John aka Wae? (E ʻoluʻolu e hāʻawi i nā hōʻike maopopo ʻole no kēia, ʻaʻole wale ka manaʻo) ʻO wai ka mea i hoʻoholo i kēia Apocalypse e pono i loko o ka Canon New Testament? Mahalo.
Hui !
ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke hōʻoia i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻaʻole au e manaʻoʻiʻo ʻo Ioane no Patmos ka luna haumāna ʻo Ioane.
Inā hewa wau a laila pono i nā alakaʻi hoʻomana e hāʻawi iā mākou i kahi ala ʻoi aku e noiʻi i kēia ʻōlelo i waho o kā lākou mau moʻomeheu Church smh
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Mahalo no kāu pane a me kouʻoiaʻiʻo. Ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manaʻo e haʻi nā kāne i kekahi mau paukū i loaʻa ma ka King James Bible he wahaheʻe, e like me nā paukū 12 o Mareko i hala, ka moʻolelo o ka wahine i loaʻa i ka moekolohe, a i ʻole 1 John 5: 7,8. Akā inā hiki kēia, a laila hiki nō paha i kekahi mau puke e wahaheʻe, e like me Jude a me Revelation. ʻAʻole i loaʻa iaʻu ka nui loa mai ka Revelation, i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo. E aho wau e heluhelu i nā puke hou o ke Kauoha Hou e kia ana i ka lokomaikaʻi a me ke aloha o ke Akua i hōʻike ʻia ma o Iesu Kristo lā iā mākou... Pākuhi hou »
ʻĀ .. ʻae au. ʻO ia ke kumu aʻu i haʻalele ai i ke aʻo ʻana i ka wānana ma hope o koʻu haʻalele ʻana i ka JWs. Ke aʻo nei ka hapa nui o mākou iā Revelation, ʻEzekiela, ʻIsaia a me Daniel mai ka mea hiki iā mākou ke hele wāwae a ʻo ka mea makemake maoli e hele hou i loko o ka make a me ka pōpilikia ma hope o ka Mālamalama. "He hopena apocalyptic mākou o ka neʻe ʻana o nā lā maoli" ʻOiaʻiʻo. ʻĀnō hoʻi nā hoʻomana āpau. Ua hōʻike mai kahi kaikunāne naʻauao iaʻu i kēia palapala hemolele i nā makahiki i hala aku nei ma kēia pūnaewele i ka wā i hele a luhi wau "Pōmaikaʻi ka mea e heluhelu leo nui i nā ʻōlelo o kēia wānana, a pōmaikaʻi hoʻi ka poʻe e hoʻolohe, a mālama i nā mea i kākau ʻia i loko.... Pākuhi hou »
No ke aha ke hana ʻia nei nā hōʻike? A i ʻole he komo pololei paha o ka wehewehe ʻana i nā makahiki i hala ma hope o 1914?
ʻOiai ua hoʻonohonoho lākou i ka hoʻomaka o ke koho ʻia o ke kauā ma 1919, hiki iā lākou ke hōʻole i ka hana a Russell me ka makaʻu ʻole e hoʻoliʻiliʻi i kā lākou kuleana i ka hoʻokohu akua. ʻOiai inā ua manaʻoʻiʻo lākou i kekahi mau mea i nā makahiki mua, hiki iā lākou ke ʻōlelo ma muli o ke aʻo ʻana mai a Russell i hoʻomaʻemaʻe ʻia e Iesū i kona hoʻomaʻemaʻe ʻana i ke kauā hou.
Mahalo Meleti. ʻOi aku wau ma mua o kēia manawa ʻaʻole loa e hoʻopuka ka WT i kahi mea i hiki ke maʻalahi e hōʻohi iā ia iho. Loaʻa iā lākou kahi ala o ka hōʻike ʻana i ka ʻike e hiki ke hoʻoponopono ʻia a ʻaʻole loaʻa ka hoʻopaʻi nui a i ʻole kahi hoʻi o ka hoʻi ʻana mai. Ua kapa mākou i kēlā akamai? 😉
Luna leka uila. ʻO ia ke akamai, ʻike pinepine ʻia i kā lākou kākau ʻana, e hōʻoiaʻiʻo mai iaʻu ʻaʻole i hana ʻia me ka ʻike ʻole. Pehea ka maikaʻi o ka ʻōlelo ʻana a ka Baibala e pili ana i nā "moʻolelo wahaheʻe i hana akamai ʻia". Aia kahi hana noʻeau ma hope o ia mau palapala hoʻohuli manaʻo.
ʻAe, ʻae pū wau me ʻolua a hoʻonāukiuki hoʻi i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e kōkua i kā mākou hoaaloha. Inā hiki iaʻu ke hoʻohui i kāu mea leka uila a me Meleti, me he mea lā ʻaʻole iaʻu ka pilikia. ʻAʻole pili ia, pololei o nā aʻo ʻana. ʻOiai ʻo ka haki ʻana i ia e nahu i ka nui o nā peiki he mea nui a akāka hoʻi. Akā ua hele a mahalo wau, ʻOi aku ia e pili ana i ka hōʻoia ʻana i ka ʻike o ka manaʻo mua o kekahi i kēlā aʻo. He paʻakikī kēia mākau. Ua ʻike ʻo Iesū (epiginosk) i ka manaʻo a me ke ʻano o ka naʻau o ka poʻe. Luka 5:22. I ka wā i pili ai i nā alakaʻi haipule, ʻike ʻo ia i kā lākou hana maʻalea ma loko o Luka 20:23 & Mat 22:18... Pākuhi hou »
Pēlā nō, Lazaro.
Me he mea lā ʻo ke ʻano "literal" o ka 144,000 e nānā mau ʻole i kahi kīnā maopopo. Inā he huahelu kēia helu, a laila literal ka paukū holoʻokoʻa. No laila, inā no kēlā ʻohana kēia ʻohana he 12,000, a laila he Iudaio lākou a pau, pololei? A laila pehea e hiki ai ke ola i ka poʻe Genetile - i manaʻo ʻia ALL o lākou āpau e "poni ʻia" i ka kenekulia mua - inā he "Iudaio" 144,000 nā Iudaio pū kekahi?
ʻAʻole hoʻohui ʻia kahi mea “maoli”.
E hoʻomau i ka hana nui Na hoahānau!
Mahalo nui ʻia kāu hana e ka poʻe i hoʻomaikaʻi ʻia mai nā aʻo ʻana ma kēia pūnaewele
Brother LQ,
Inā kūlohelohe ka ʻIseraʻela ma hea kahi mau palapala e hōʻoia ai? ʻOiaʻiʻo he kiʻi kope hou i kekahi wahi mai kēia mea koʻikoʻi i ke ola o nā mea āpau.
StMalj
ʻAe Robert. ʻO nā kāne Iudaio puʻupaʻa. ʻO ia ka wehewehe maoli. I kēia manawa ʻaʻole wau e ʻōlelo ʻana ʻaʻohe hoʻokō maoli. Haʻalele wau i ka hiki ke hāmama mau ma muli o ke ala aʻu e ʻike ai i nā mea. Aia kahi ʻaoʻao hoʻohuli i kēlā me kēia kālā aʻu e manaʻoʻiʻo ai i ka wānana. Akā, ʻe, ma hea nā moʻolelo? Pono e loaʻa kahi ala maoli a ke Akua i hana ai no kākou āpau e hōʻoia? Ua lohe wau e hōʻike ana ka HS i kekahi mau Kalikiano Iudaio i ke ʻano o ko lākou ʻohana. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke hōʻoia a hōʻole paha. ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hōʻoiaʻiʻo i koʻu manaʻo? No ka mea, lawe ke Akua iā mākou āpau i nā huakaʻi like ʻole... Pākuhi hou »
whakahoki; ʻAʻole wau e manaʻo i kā lākou mea e hopohopo ai, akā ʻo ka manaʻo kēia wale nō. Aia, aia no, i ke alahouana o ka poe pono. No laila ʻaʻole pio ka poʻe o kēia mau mea. E hemahema paha lākou i ka ʻike ʻana ua like pū lākou i ka hui e like me nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, ʻo ka poʻe me ka manaʻoʻiʻo ʻole, akā e kau lākou i luna.
Manaʻo wau he maikaʻi ʻaʻole i hoʻopaʻi ʻia nā JWs no ka mea ʻo ka hapa nui o lākou he poʻe maikaʻi e makemake e ʻoluʻolu i ke Akua, hoʻopunipuni wale ʻia lākou e ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka makaʻu i ka make e hana hewa iā lākou.
ʻO kahi manaʻo wale nō e pili ana i nā ʻohana 12. He nui ka poʻe i ʻōlelo ʻia ʻaʻole hiki i nā ʻohana i helu ʻia ma Revelation ke ʻohana maoli o ka ʻIseraʻela ma muli o ke kūlike ʻole o ka papa inoa. Makemake wau i ʻokoʻa, kūlike ka papa inoa o nā ʻohana i ka papa inoa o nā ʻohana i ka makahiki ʻelua o ka puka ʻana mai ʻAigupita, koe wale nō ʻo Dan. (Helu 1: 1) Kohu mea lā ua pani ʻo Levi i ka Dana ma ka papa inoa ma Hōʻike. Aia kekahi ʻokoʻa i ka helu 1 e pili ana iā Levi. A no ka ohana a luda, ua hoailonaia he umikumamalua tausani; - Nū 12,000:1 mai ka ʻohana a Reu ofben, he 26; - Helu 12,000:1 i waho... Pākuhi hou »
E Meleti, hiki iaʻu ke haʻi iā ʻoe he leʻaleʻa nui i ka haehae ʻana i kēia ʻatikala hoʻopaʻa puke..lol lol Aloha i kēlā me kēia huaʻōlelo āu i kākau ai .. Ke heluhelu wau i kēia, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu he aha ka manaʻo aʻu e noʻonoʻo nei i ka helu o nā makahiki he nui i hala iaʻu ma hope. kēia hui wahaheʻe, kaohi ʻana a me ka hoʻopunipuni. Akā hele ma aneʻi. Huhū, kumakaia, inaina, hoʻowahāwahā, hoʻowahāwahā, hoʻowahāwahā, hoʻonāukiuki, hoʻopaʻi, hoʻopunipuni, ʻohe, hoʻohui ʻia. Ua haʻo wau i kekahi huaʻōlelo? E hoʻohui wau i kekahi mau huaʻōlelo ʻē aʻe, akā ʻaʻole kūpono ia no kēia kolamu ... hoʻomanaʻo paha kekahi i ke kani o ke ʻano? E pahū paha inā wau e ʻaʻe ana ... Meleti hou, mahalo... Pākuhi hou »
Ma kaʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole ia e hāpai i ka heluhelu ʻana i kēia puke, aia nā mahele i hāpai aʻe i ke ʻano kānalua a me ka hilahila. ʻO ka kānalua a me ka hilahila he mau kūʻēʻē hoʻi o ka hilinaʻi. No laila, ʻaʻole i hoʻāla ʻia ma ka ʻuhane, a na ke ʻano he Kristiano e hoʻopau i ka luhi me nā nīnau e pili ana i kona noʻonoʻo. Akā no kahi maʻamau JW, pono, ʻaʻohe pono e kanalua, manaʻo wale i nā huaʻōlelo a pau mai ka puke a hele maluhia. 🙂
Candace, aloha wau iā ʻoe a me nā mea i koe e huikau nei, malia paha ʻo wau pū kekahi me kekahi. ʻAʻohe mea i hele mai me kahi wehewehe kūpono no ke kumu e hāʻule nei nā helu o ka poʻe poni. ʻO ia paha no ka mea ua hoʻonohonoho ʻo JWs i kahi mea ʻaʻole pololei pololei ma ka palapala ma ka mua. Ua like ia me ke ala hou ʻana. E ala hou kekahi i ka lani a ʻo kekahi i ka honua. E kakali mākou āpau a ʻike. Malia a laila e nānā mākou i hope a noʻonoʻo, no ke aha ma ka honua i hana ai mākou i nā mea paʻakikī loa. Mai hoʻokau... Pākuhi hou »
Hoʻokumu maikaʻi ʻia kēia hōʻike ʻana!
I ka hoʻomaka ʻana o kaʻu hanauna e haʻi lākou iā mākou ua naʻaupō akā luhi nā mea kōkua kōkua.
ʻAʻole ʻike ko mākou mau mākua. ʻAʻole wau i manaʻo ua hana kekahi akā he mea ʻē aʻe.
ʻO kēia maiʻa!
ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke kōkua e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i kuʻu Hoa nāna i pepehi wale ...
E hele koke i ka Haku Iesū !!!!
ʻO kekahi kumu no ka makemake ʻole o nā mea he nui i ka "lani" manaʻolana, e like me ka mea i wehewehe ʻia e ka hui, no ka mea ʻaʻole ia e waiho i kahi no ka "hoʻoili ʻana i ka honua". ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻōlelo lākou ʻo Iesū a me ka 144k 'hoʻoilina' i ka honua e like me ka wahi a lākou e noho aliʻi ai, akā ʻōlelo pū lākou ʻo ka poʻe e hele i ka lani e noho aliʻi mai laila (ʻaʻole paha lākou e hoʻi. He kani like ia e like me 'waiho i kāu poʻe aloha mau loa e noho i kahi a me ke ʻano hiki ʻole ke hoʻomaopopo'. ʻAʻohe mea kupanaha no ka liʻiliʻi loa o ka poʻe lawe. Inā ua wehewehe ʻia ka manaʻolana "lani" me "me Iesu i paradaiso", my... Pākuhi hou »
Aloha Meleti, aia he kaikunāne, ke noho nei wau, nāna i ʻai i nā hōʻailona ma nā makahiki 1930. Eia nō naʻe i ka wā i puka mai ai kēia hōʻike hou i 1935 e pili ana iā John 10: 16 & ka lehulehu lehulehu, ʻo ka Jehonadabs, ʻaʻole ʻo ia i maopopo iā ia iho. Ua ʻai nō ʻo ia. ʻO ia ke alakaʻi i ka hoʻomanaʻo o ʻApelila 1938. Ke pule nei ʻo ia inā e hoʻomau a hoʻomau ʻole i ka ʻai ʻana no ka mea ʻaʻole ʻo ia i maopopo i kāna kāhea ʻana. A laila ʻike ʻia ka hale kiaʻi o Malaki 15, 1938. ʻAoʻao 83-89. Pane maila kēlā i kāna pule, & ua oki kāna ʻai ʻana! Hoʻokomo ʻia nā ʻatikala i loko o Roma 8. Me ke kuhikuhi mau ʻana iā Iehonadaba.... Pākuhi hou »
No laila ke koʻikoʻi o ka "index" āu i kau ai e pane i nā nīnau he nui iaʻu. Mai ka makahiki 1930-1985 ua ʻimi ikaika lākou e pani i ke aupuni o ka lani (hoʻoulu ʻia e kēlā me kēia ʻuhane a lākou e ʻōlelo ai e hana.) 1985 a e hoʻomau nei - hōʻole i nā lālā o ka Baibala makana o ka bapetizo ʻia ʻana ma ka inoa o ka ʻUhane Hemolele. bapetizo ʻia i ka inoa o ka ʻoihana ma mua pono o ke komo ʻana. Makahiki hālāwai makahiki 2011? ʻO ka leka uila- "Basically we 7-8 people have control like the Pope now" -A Claim of Apostolic succession. 2014- Nā hōʻike o ka hoʻomaʻau ikaika i hoʻokō ʻia e nā Kauoha o ke Aupuni... Pākuhi hou »
Hi GWIT, Eia kahi loulou no nā helu o nā ʻāpana: http://meletivivlon.com/2015/01/03/memorial-partakers-2014/ 2012 ʻāpana: 12604 2013 ʻāpana: 13204 2014 ʻāpana: 14121 2015 ʻāpana: 15177 Me ke aloha ka 144,000, ma luna o 2000 mau makahiki ka manaʻo o ka awelika o 72 mau keristiano hou i poni ʻia i hoʻohui ʻia i kēlā me kēia makahiki. Ua kamaʻilio wau me kaʻu mau hoaaloha JW e pili ana i ka lawehala i hana ʻia ma ka ʻaoʻao o Iesū. Ua poni ʻia anei ʻo ia, a he ʻāpana paha o nā hipa ʻē aʻe? Ua mālama lākou ʻaʻole hiki iā ia ke poni ʻia no ka mea ʻaʻohe ona "moʻo'ōlelo o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo", akā pīhoihoi nō hoʻi no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou i ʻākoakoa i nā hipa ʻē aʻe a hiki i ka wā ma hope. Mahalo... Pākuhi hou »
He nīnau maikaʻi loa, e Amoreomeara. E hoʻomanaʻo wau no ka manawa aʻe e komo ana wau i kahi kūkā kamaʻilio “ʻohana hipa ʻē aʻe” me nā hoa aloha JW kahiko.
Ua haʻi ʻia mai iaʻu ka mea hana ʻino ma ka ʻaoʻao o Iesū he "hipa ʻē aʻe" no ka mea ua make ʻo ia ma mua o ko Iesū hana ʻana, e like me nā poʻe kūpaʻa a pau i make ma mua o ko Iesu hui pū ʻana me mākou i paradaiso. A i kēia makahiki ua loaʻa iā mākou kahi ʻelua kiaʻi kiaʻi e pili ana i ka ʻAina ahiahi a ua wehewehe ia ke kumu o ka hoʻonui ʻana o ka helu no ka mea he nui ka poʻe e hele mai ana i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo mai nā ʻāina kūkulu e pili mau me ka manaʻo kuʻuna o ka hele i ka lani. a ʻaʻole i loaʻa ka ʻike kūpono i kēia manawa .. a i ʻole pilikia ka naʻau a me ka noʻonoʻo paha i ke kanaka. ʻO kēlā... Pākuhi hou »
Aloha wau iā ʻoe, e Candace. ʻO nā mea hiki wale nō iaʻu ke ʻōlelo, ʻo ia ka pane i ka mea a i ʻole i ka mea e manaʻoʻiʻo ai, ʻo wai ʻo Iesū a me ka ʻO ka ʻōlelo a ke Akua ka Baibala.
Aloha Candace a hoʻokipa ʻoe, aia wau i kou kāmaʻa i hoʻokahi makahiki i hala, e like me kā Meleti ʻōlelo aʻo, paulele iā Kristo, ka ʻōlelo. Hele mau wau i nā hālāwai me koʻu ʻohana, eia nō naʻe ke pili nei koʻu ʻike i ka ʻōlelo aʻo a Iesū he mea nui ia, ma Mat 10:16 ″ ... e makaʻala iā ʻoukou iho me he nahesa lā a hewa ʻole e like me nā manu nūnū. ”ʻIke wau i kēia kolamu kahi kahi e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke hōʻike manuahi iā ʻoe iho. E hoʻomau i ka nānā ʻana i nā ʻOihana 17:11.
Aloha Candace, ʻAe, ua haʻi ʻia iā lākou ua make mua ka mea hana hewa, akā i ka wā a mākou e hoʻopaʻa ai i nā palapala hemolele ua loaʻa kēia iā mākou ma John 19:32 "No laila hele maila nā koa a uhaʻi i nā wāwae o ke kāne mua a me nā kāne ʻē aʻe. ʻo ia ma ka lāʻau pili me ia. 33 A hiki aku la lakou io Iesu la, ike iho la, ua make loa ia, aole na lakou o uhai i kona wawae. No ke aha lākou i uhaʻi ai i nā wāwae o nā 2'ē aʻe, akāʻaʻole na Iesu? ʻO ka hana o ka haki ʻana i ko lākou mau wāwae he lokomaikaʻi maoli nō. ʻO ka manaʻo ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke kaupaona... Pākuhi hou »
Manaʻo maikaʻi! Wehe wale ka Baibala ke hoʻomālamalama ʻoe i ka pouli o ke aʻo a nā kāne. ʻO ka ʻUhane Hemolele o ke Akua ko mākou Kumu Nui. Ua hoʻouna ke Akua i kekahi Kōkua e like me Iesū e like me ka palapala hemolele. Inā ʻo ia, ʻo Iesū Kristo, e noho maoli nei i loko o mākou āpau i poni ʻia e Kristo - laila he aha ka mea e pono ai no kahi ʻaha hoʻomalu e hoʻomalu i ko Kino kino ponoʻī? ʻO ke kumukūʻai o kāna mea i wae ʻia (Kino o Kristo) ke koko Kānāwai ʻaʻole i loaʻa i ka ʻĀpana Pule o nā hōʻike a Iēhova. No laila ke Surfaceing a kiʻekiʻe kiʻekiʻe loa ke kumukūʻai. Ua hoʻolaha ākea lākou i kēia manawa... Pākuhi hou »
Welina, StMalj. ʻO ke kumu maikaʻi!
Nā helu maikaʻi, Amoreomeara. Hiki paha iaʻu ke hoʻohui i kahi hiʻohiʻona ʻē aʻe. Ua luku ʻia ʻo Stephen ma hope koke o ka Pentacost. ʻAʻohe manawa e kūkulu i kahi "moʻolelo o kaʻoiaʻiʻo". Pono kekahi i ka manawa e hele mai a ʻo kekahi ʻaʻole. ʻO ka mea nui ka puʻuwai a ʻo ke Akua a me Kristo wale nō ka hiki ke heluhelu i kēlā. No ke koi no ka poni ʻana, ua hui pū ʻia nā kāne kūpaʻa o ka wā kahiko, ʻoiai ua kūlapa lākou no ke ala hou ʻana aʻe. (He 11:35) ʻAʻole ia he poni kūikawā i koi ʻia e lilo i keiki na ke Akua, akā e hoʻāpono ʻia e ke Akua a mākou i ʻike ai ʻo ʻAberahama. (Ro 4: 2,3) Manaʻo wau... Pākuhi hou »
@amoreomeara kākau ʻo ia: "Ua mālama lākou ʻaʻole hiki iā ia ke poni ʻia no ka mea ʻaʻohe ona" moʻo'ōlelo o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo "
ʻAnoho ... ʻaʻole ʻo Paul, akā ʻaʻole ʻo ia wale nō i poni ʻia i ka wā e hoʻomaʻau ʻino ana i nā Karistiano, ʻo Kristo hoʻi i poni iā ia.
I kēia manawa i manaʻo ʻia he mea hoʻonāukiuki! Mahalo, Leaving_Quietly.
I ka mālamalama o ka nīnau, pono e noʻonoʻo pono i kēia mau paukū: ʻO wai ka mea hiki ke hoʻomaopopo i ka ʻUhane o Iēhova, a i ʻole e aʻo iā Iēhova ma ke ʻano he kākāʻōlelo? - ʻIsaia 40: 13 "No wai ka mea i ʻike i ka manaʻo o ka Haku e aʻo iā ia?" Akā, iā mākou ka manaʻo o Kristo. " - 1 Kor. 2: 16 No ka mea, ʻoi aku ka lani ma luna o ka honua, pēlā nō ke kiʻekiʻe o koʻu mau aoao ma mua o ko ʻoukou mau ʻaoʻao, a me koʻu mau manaʻo ma mua o ko ʻoukou mau manaʻo. - ʻIsaia 55: 9 ʻO ka pilikia me ka WT kekahi manawa hoʻāʻo ʻo ia e pane i nā nīnau ʻaʻohe ona mana ma luna. A i ka manawa hea... Pākuhi hou »
Mahalo Meleti, loiloi hou maikaʻi loa, mahalo i ka loulou i ka 1934 wt ma kona lokomaikaʻi. Manaʻo wau e hana ka puke Proclaimers iā Wt 34, e ʻike ma lalo i nā ʻōlelo. Nā Helu. Hoʻomanaʻo. 1919-21,411 1922-33,411 1923-42,000 1924-62,694 1925- 90,434 Makahiki 1926-28 ʻaʻohe palapala i hoʻohoka nui ʻia. ʻAʻohe hopena! 1935 Nā ʻaha kūkala hoʻomanaʻo 52,465 I ka poʻe i komo 63,146. No laila i ka makahiki 1935 he 11,000 ka poʻe i komo ʻole. Kuhi au ma muli o kēia aʻo hou a i kēia lā ua ʻoi aku ma mua o 8 miliona i ʻike ʻole i ke kauoha a Kristo e ʻai. kaumaha loa. ʻO wau kekahi o kēlā mau makahiki. Ma ke ala inā he 144,000 ka helu, a laila... Pākuhi hou »
Hui!
No laila ehia mau poʻe "nalo" i waho? He aha nā helu a puni ka honua i kēlā mau makahiki? Maopopo anei iā 'oe? 1919-2016 paha?
ʻApelelo Agape,
GWIT
Aloha GWIT, Mahalo no kāu pane. amoreomeara He pākuʻi. Au manaʻo e kōkua ke kōkua.
Aloha Lazaro! (Manaʻo wau i kēlā inoa no nā kumu he nui.
Ehia mea e hele ai i kēia mau hoʻomanaʻo hoʻomanaʻo? (see pilina)
ʻIke ʻoe, Ke Kono Hoʻokele o ke ao holoʻokoʻa i kā lākou hoʻomanaʻo ʻana o Iesū Kristo?
He hana maoli kēia ʻo ia wale nō he Public Rejection o ke Kauike Hou.
I ka manawa hea i hoʻomaka ai kēia ʻaha a JW kuʻuna o ka hoʻomanaʻo ʻana i kahi "make" ʻo Iesū Kristo (?)?
ʻApelelo Agape,
GWIT
ʻIke maikaʻi. Mahalo Lazaro.
ʻO ka manaʻo mua o ka poni ʻana he 'hele mua, lawelawe mua'. Maikaʻi loa kēia, no ka mea ua ʻae ʻia no kahi haʻahaʻa haʻahaʻa wahaheʻe: E kala mai ua poni ʻia wau ʻaʻole ʻoe, akā ua lohi loa kou hānau ʻana. Eia kekahi, ʻo ka make ʻana o ka mea poni i lawelawe ʻia ma ke ʻano he barometer Armageddon. Akā me ka ʻatikala QfR 2007 (ʻo ka ʻatikala paha-kekahi-e poni ʻia ana-i kēia manawa), i wehewehe ai i kahi hanana i ʻike ʻole ʻia e nā mea paʻi puke, he ʻano ʻano poni ʻē aʻe kāu i kēia manawa. lawelawe mua a hiki i 1935, a laila koho i ka poni ʻana (ʻaʻole kumu nui) ma hope o kēlā. He aha ke poʻo poʻo! Ke akua... Pākuhi hou »
lol maoli nō, maopopo iaʻu ka mea āu e ʻōlelo nei a huikau wau iaʻu. Ua like wau e like me kā mākou "pohihihi" ponoʻī e like me ke kolu. Aia kekahi mau aʻo i aʻo ʻia iaʻu i mau makahiki, ʻike mau wau i kekahi o kēia mau aʻo ʻana ʻaʻole kūpono.
ʻO nā loulou i ka Hale Hōʻikeʻike 1934 (a ʻo 1925 hoʻi i kāu ʻatikala i hala) i kōkua nui i ke kamaʻilio ʻana e pili ana i kēia mau mea me kaʻu wahine. Maʻalahi loa e hōʻoia i ka 'ʻeli ʻana hohonu' no kahi hoʻopaʻa ʻohana ʻana ke paʻa pono nei ka CBS i kēia mau ʻatikala ma ke ʻano he hōʻike o ke kuhikuhi akua. He kūkākūkā maikaʻi kā mākou e pili ana i nā kumuhana i loko o nā ʻatikala a me ka nele o nā hōʻike paʻa i loko o nā ʻatikala e kākoʻo ana i nā hopena i huki ʻia. Ka hōʻuluʻulu ʻōlelo pōkole a kaʻu wahine: “Pupule wale kēlā mau ʻatikala. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ka palapala. ” E like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai ʻo Meleti, ʻo kēia kā mākou... Pākuhi hou »
Ua puka ʻo Philip K. Dick me kekahi mau moʻolelo moʻolelo i manaʻo nui ʻia. He mea kākau moʻolelo hoʻokahi.
Lana koʻu manaʻo e hoʻoneʻe ʻia ka poʻe e ʻai ponoʻī ma kahi pilikino a i ʻole ke kū nei i kahi ākea no nā poʻe ʻē aʻe. ʻIke wau i ka nīnau nui ʻana ma muli o ka Unfair Inquitions o kā lākou ʻōnaehana hoʻokolokolo, ka hoʻomāinoino ʻia e ke kaiāulu JW holoʻokoʻa me kou ʻohana a me kāu Excommication. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ka mea e ʻōlelo ai ma hope o kēia ʻatikala…. E ʻoluʻolu e ʻae i ka lawe ʻana i loko o ka home o nā akua! Hiki iā ʻoe ke komo wale ma ka hānau hou ʻana o ka ʻUhane Hemolele i ʻōlelo ai ko mākou Haku ʻo Iesū Kristo. E ʻoluʻolu e hoʻolohe i kāna kauoha e komo i ka berita hou. E ʻoluʻolu mai hoʻokaʻulua i nā manaʻo ʻelua inā ʻike ʻoe i ka... Pākuhi hou »
E kala mai iaʻu. Kuhihewa. ?
He aha kāu mau ʻōlelo e kamaʻilio nei?
"I kekahi manawa me he mea lā ʻo ke ʻano hana a ka poʻe hoʻopuka e ʻimi ai i kahi" palapala hōʻoia "ʻo ia ka hana ʻimi ʻana ma kahi huaʻōlelo nui a i ʻole ka ʻōlelo, e like me "ʻohi", a laila hoʻopili wale i kēlā mau hopena i loko o ke kino o kahi ʻatikala a manaʻolana ʻaʻohe mea. e ʻike ʻaʻole pono ka Palapala Hemolele no ka manaʻo i ʻōlelo ʻia. ʻAe, ʻae, ʻoiaʻiʻo! Ua lilo ka makahiki kikohoʻe a me ka hale huli i 'akua' ? i ke ʻano eisegesis. Inā pilikia kekahi i ka heluhelu ʻana i ka pōʻaiapili o kēlā me kēia palapala hemolele i haʻi ʻia i nā makahiki i hala iho nei, e ʻike ʻoe i kahi plethora o nā ʻōlelo kuhi hewa.... Pākuhi hou »
“ʻAe, ua hewa lākou. ʻOiaʻiʻo inā maikaʻi nā mea hoʻopuka e hana i nā ʻōlelo hōʻoia ʻole, pono iā mākou ke hana like. ʻO ka ʻōlelo ʻana, e hoʻāʻo mākou e hōʻoia i kā mākou. " ? Aloha wau iā ia. ʻAʻole naʻe au i heluhelu i ka ʻatikala holoʻokoʻa akā ua kūpono kēlā ʻōlelo maʻalahi a ikaika e hoʻomaikaʻi ʻia mai kēia kihi liʻiliʻi o ʻEnelani. Heluhelu au i ka haʻawina puke ma mua o kēia ahiahi a ʻōlelo aku au i kaʻu kāne ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomaopopo i kahi e loaʻa ai i ka poʻe kākau ke aʻa e hana i nā ʻōlelo i loko o kēia puke. I loko o koʻu mau makahiki he 60 a pau o ka ʻike puke,... Pākuhi hou »
ʻO ke kumu o ka hoʻopili ʻole ʻana o nā ʻohana 12 me nā ʻohana maoli he hōʻailona ia. ʻO kēlā me kēia inoa i ʻōlelo ʻia he huaʻōlelo e pili pū ana. ʻO kahi laʻana i ka manawa i hoʻohana ʻia ai ka inoa ʻo Iuda ma Genesis 29: 35 ʻōlelo "I kēia manawa e hoʻomaikaʻi wau iā Iēhova". Ua hua mai kēlā me kēia inoa i kekahi huaʻōlelo. Inā ʻoe e lawe iā lākou i ke kauoha i hāʻawi ʻia iā lākou. Eia ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia: ʻĀnō hoʻi, e hoʻomaikaʻi nō wau iā Iēhova; He ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua nānā mai ʻo Iēhova i kuʻu ʻehaʻeha, nani wale! Pōmaikaʻi wau! Me nā hakakā nui wau i hakakā ai a ua lanakila wau, na ke Akua ka... Pākuhi hou »
hoihoi. A no kāu ʻike maʻamau - ʻo 144 ka helu Fibonacci ʻumikumamālua, a ʻo ka mea nui loa he huinahā like, e like me ka huinahalike o 12 (ʻo ia hoʻi kāna helu helu ma ke kaʻina Fibonacci). I kēia manawa, e ʻike kākou inā hiki iā kākou ke ʻike i ke ʻano koʻikoʻi o ka ʻuhane i kēlā ?