ʻO kā mākou ʻO ka mea mua, ua ninaninau i ka ʻO Stad-Guppi Stele, kahi palapala mōʻaukala e hoʻopau koke i ke kumumanaʻo o ka Hale Hōʻikeʻike o nā wā kūpono ma ka laina i hoʻokumu ʻia o Neo-Babulona Nā Aliʻi.
No ka ʻaoʻao aʻe o nā hōʻike mua, e nānā mākou i ka Honua Saturn. E kōkua kēia ʻatikala iā mākou e hoʻomaopopo pehea e hoʻohana maʻalahi ai ke kūlana o Saturn i ka lani e hoʻokumu i ka manawa i luku ʻia ai ʻo Ierusalema.
I ko mākou au hou, lawe mākou i ke ana o ka manawa no ka mea i hāʻawi ʻia. Hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopoina maʻalahi e hoʻokumu ʻia nā ʻenehana āpau i ka neʻe ʻana o kahi kino honua, kikoʻī i ko mākou Honua. Hoʻokahi makahiki ka manawa e lawe i ka Honua e hana i kahi kipi holoʻokoʻa a puni ka lā. ʻO kahi lā ka manawa e lawe i ka Honua e hana i kahi kipi piha a puni kāna axis. Kūlike ʻole ka neʻe ʻana o nā panakī, hilinaʻi loa, i hoʻohana nā lāhui kahiko i ka lani ma ke ʻano he kalena lani, ke panana, kahi uaki, a me kahi palapala ʻāina. Ma mua o ka GPS, hiki i ke kāpena o ka moku ke hoʻokele i nā wahi āpau o ka honua me ka hola wale nō a me ka lani e alakaʻi iā ia.
He poʻe akamai ka poʻe Babulona i ka ʻike kilokilo. Ma loko o nā kenekulia he nui, ua hoʻopaʻa lākou i ka neʻe planetary, ka neʻe ʻana o ka lā a me ka lunar e like me nā neʻe. ʻO ka hui pū ʻana o kēia mau wahi Honua i laka iā lākou i kahi palena manawa kūpono e hiki ai iā mākou ke huli me ka pololei. Kūlike kēlā me kēia hui ʻana e like me ka manamana lima a i ʻole ka helu balota lottery
E noʻonoʻo e pili ana i kahi papa inoa o nā helu mokulele 12 mau lotiona i lanakila ma nā lā kikoʻī ma kahi makahiki i hāʻawi ʻia. He aha nā kūlana o kēlā mau helu like e hiki mai ana i nā lā like ʻole i ka wā hou?
E like me kā mākou i ʻōlelo ai ma ka ʻO ka mea mua, ko mākou kumu ma aneʻi e hoʻohana i ka ʻatikala ʻelua ʻaoʻao i kapa ʻia, "I ka wā hea i luku ʻia ai ʻo Ierusalema kahiko?", i paʻi ʻia ma ka nūpepa ʻOkakopa a me Nowemapa, 2011 o Ka Hale Palama e hōʻike maopopo i nā mea hoʻopuka i loaʻa i nā ʻike a pau loa e hōʻike ai i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo a lākou i hewa ai ma kahi o 607 H. Kahi a puni, eia naʻe ke koho nei e hōʻole ma luna a hoʻomau i ke aʻo wahaheʻe maikaʻi ʻole.
I kēia hopena, e nānā pehea e hiki ai ke hoʻohana i kahi o Saturn e hoʻokumu ai i ka pilina o ka makahiki aliʻi 37 o Nebukaneza. No ke aha mai ia mea? He mea nui ia, no ka mea e like me ka Ieremia 52:12, “I ka lima o ka malama, i ka ʻumi o ka lā o ka malama, ʻo ia hoʻi, i ka ʻO 19th makahiki o ke aliʻi ʻo Nebukanezzzar ke aliʻi o Babulona ”Ua luku ʻia ʻo Ierusalema. ʻOi aku ka hoʻopuni ʻana ma mua o hoʻokahi makahiki (Ieremia 52: 4, 5). Ua ʻike ʻo Ieremia i ka hihiʻo i ka makahiki 18 o ko Nebukaneza noho aliʻi ʻana ʻoiai ke hoʻopilikia ʻia nei ke kūlanakauhale (Ieremia 32: 1, 2) No laila, inā hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopaʻa me ka pololei i ka makahiki 37 o Nebukaneza, he hoʻoemi maʻalahi ia e hōʻea i ka makahiki o Ka luku ʻia ʻana o Ierusalema.
Hiki ke maopopo iā ʻoe inā inā i hōʻike ʻia ka ʻike astronomical i ka 607 T.K. Ka Hale Palama ʻO ka ʻatikala e pau loa ia. Eia nō naʻe, ʻaʻole i ʻōlelo iki ʻia ke kūlana o Saturn. Hoʻowahāwahā loa lākou i kēia ʻāpana waiwai. No ke aha mai?
E nānā mākou i nā hōʻike, ʻeā?
ʻO VAT 4956 kahi helu i hāʻawi ʻia i kekahi papa pālolo e wehewehe ana i ka ʻike hōkū e pili ana i ka makahiki 37 o ko Nebukaneza noho aliʻi ʻana.
ʻO nā laina mua ʻelua o ka unuhi o keia papa heluhelu:
- Makahiki 37 o Nebukadnezar, ke alii o Babulona. Kaao I. (ka 1st [5] a i like me ia mea) o ka 30th [6] (o ka mahina aʻe)[7], ua lilo ka mahina nanaia mahope ka bipi of Heaven[8]; [i ka la i ka mahina:]…. [….][9]
- ʻO Saturn i mua o ka Swallow.[10], [11] The 2nd,[12] i ke kakahiaka, e loaʻa ana kahi ua ma ke komohana. ʻO ka pō o ka 3rd,[13] malama 2 ka mahina i mua o […][14]
Hōʻike mai ka lālani ʻelua iā mākou "ʻo Saturn i mua o ka Swallow" (ʻO ka ʻāina o ka lani i kēia lā i kapa ʻia ʻo Pisces.)
ʻOi aku ka lōʻihi o Saturn mai kā mākou Lā ma mua o ka Honua, a no laila ke lōʻihi loa o ka hoʻopau ʻana i kahi orbit piha. ʻO kahi orbit hoʻokahi e pili ana iā 29.4 Honua mau makahiki i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo.
Hoʻokaʻawale ʻia kā mākou uaki o kēia manawa i 12 mau hola. No ke aha 12? Hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa i 10 mau lā a me 10 mau hola, me kēlā me kēia hola i 100 mau minuke i kēlā me kēia, a ua hoʻokaʻawale ʻia kēlā me kēia minuke i 100 kekona. ʻOiaʻiʻo, hiki iā mākou ke hoʻokaʻawale i ko mākou mau lā i nā ʻāpana o kēlā me kēia lōʻihi a mākou i koho ai, akā ʻo 12 ka mea a nā mea mālama manawa i noho ai ma mua.
Ua hoʻokaʻawale nō hoʻi ka poʻe kilo hōkū i ka lani i nā ʻāpana he 12 i kapa ʻia nā hōkū. Ua ʻike lākou i nā hiʻohiʻona hōkū kamaʻāina a noʻonoʻo i kēia ʻano holoholona me he mea lā a kapa ʻia pēlā.
I ke kaʻapuni ʻana o Saturn a puni ka Lā, ʻike ʻia ke neʻe ma waena o kēia mau hōkūhele he 12. E like me ka hola o ka uaki i hoʻokahi hola e neʻe ma waena o kēlā me kēia helu he ʻumikūmālua ma ka uaki, pēlā nō ʻo Saturn ma kahi o 2.42 mau makahiki e neʻe ai i kēlā me kēia puʻupuʻu. No laila, inā ʻike ʻia ʻo Saturnus ma Pisces — ma ka piko o kā mākou uaki lani - i ka makahiki 37 o Nebukaneza, ʻaʻole e hōʻike hou ʻia ma aneʻi no ʻekolu mau makahiki.
E like me kā mākou i hōʻike ai ma mua, hāʻawi ʻia i ke kikoʻī e hiki ai iā mākou ke hoʻopaʻa i nā hanana i hoʻokumu ʻia ma ka ʻikepili o ka neʻe honua. He ʻoiaʻiʻo e hōʻike ʻia ma kahi o 607 BCE ka lā o ka luku ʻia ʻana o Ierusalema ma mua a ma waena hoʻi o ka ʻO Kekemapa 'ōlelo.
ʻOiai ʻike maoli mākou i kahi o Saturn i kēia lā - hiki iā ʻoe ke hōʻoia iā ʻoe iho me ka maka maka ʻole - ʻo kā mākou e hana ai ke holo i nā helu i hope i nā 29.4 makahiki orbital. ʻOiaʻiʻo, luhi kēlā. ʻAʻole anei maikaʻi inā loaʻa iā mākou kahi ʻāpana o ka polokalamu e hana i ia na mākou me ke ʻano kikoʻī e hiki i kahi kamepiula ke hāʻawi? ʻO Nowemapa ʻO Kekemapa 'ōlelo kahi ʻatikala i kahi ʻāpana o ka polokalamu a lākou i hoʻohana ai no kā lākou helu. Inā holo lākou i kahi helu ma kā Saturn's orbit, ʻaʻole lākou e ʻōlelo iki, ʻoiai paʻakikī e noʻonoʻo ʻaʻole lākou e hana pēlā me ka manaʻolana e hoʻokumu iā 607 e like me ka lā.
ʻO ka mea pōmaikaʻi, ua hiki iā mākou ke komo i kahi polokalamu polokalamu kamahaʻo i hiki ke hoʻoiho a holo ʻia ma ke kelepona paʻakikī a i ʻole ka papa. Kāhea ʻia SkySafari 6 hoʻohui a loaʻa ma ka pūnaewele a mai ka hale kūʻai ʻo Apple a me Android. E paipai wau iā ʻoe e hoʻoiho iā ʻoe iho i hiki iā ʻoe ke holo i kāu noiʻi ponoʻī. E hōʻoia i ka loaʻa ʻana o ka mana "Plus" a ʻoi aku paha ma ke ʻano ʻaʻole ʻae ka mana liʻiliʻi loa i nā helu no nā makahiki ma mua o Kristo.
Eia kahi hoʻolele kiʻi o nā hoʻonohonoho i hoʻohana ʻia no kā mākou noiʻi ponoʻī:
ʻO Baghdad kahi, Iraq kahi kokoke i kahi o Babulona kahiko i noho ai. ʻO 588 BC kēia lā. Hūnā ka Horizon & Sky e hana maʻalahi e ʻike i nā hōkū kāʻei kua.
I kēia manawa e nānā inā hana ka lā o 588 i kahi pāʻani me ka mea i hoʻopaʻa ʻia e nā kākāʻōlelo Babulona no ke kūlana o Saturn i ka makahiki 37 o Nebukaneza. E hoʻomanaʻo, ua ʻōlelo lākou aia i mua o ka Swallow, ka mea i ʻike ʻia i kēia lā ʻo Pisces, "ka iʻa".
Eia ka papakaumaka:
E like me ka ʻike ʻana ma aneʻi, aia ʻo Saturn i ka maʻi (Latin no ka Crab).
Ke nānā nei i ka pakuhi ma luna e hōʻike ana i nā hōkū he 12, ʻike mākou e neʻe ʻo Saturn ma, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpius, Sagittarius, Capricornus, a me Aquarius, ma mua o ka hōʻea ʻana i Pisces a i ka Swallow. No laila inā hoʻohui mākou i 20 mau makahiki a hele me ka lā a ka Archeologists i ʻōlelo ai ʻo ko Nebukaneza makahiki 37th, 568, ma hea ʻo Saturn?
A ma laila mākou ʻo Saturn i Pisces, kahi wale nō i ʻōlelo ai nā kākāʻōlelo Babulona aia ia i ka 37th makahiki o ko Nebukaneza noho aliʻi ʻana. ʻO ka manaʻo e hāʻule kāna makahiki 19 ma waena o 587/588 e like me kā ka Archeologists e koi ai. Wahi a Ieremia, ʻo ia ka wā i luku ai ʻo Nebukaneza iā Ierusalema.
No ke aha i kaohi kēia i kēia ʻike iā mākou?
I ka Paona Nupepa ma tv.jw.org, ua haʻi mai ka lālā o ke Aupuni kiaʻi ʻO Gerrit Losch iā mākou e "LPili ʻo ying i ka ʻōlelo pololei ʻole i kekahi kanaka i kuleana e ʻike i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo e pili ana i kekahi mea. Akā aia kekahi mea i kapa ʻia he hapa hapa….No laila mākou pono e kamaʻilio ākea a me kaʻoiaʻiʻo kekahi i kekahi, ʻaʻole ka hoʻopaʻa ʻana i nā hapa o ka ʻike i hiki ke hoʻololi i ka ʻike ʻana i ka mea hoʻolohe a i ʻole hoʻopunipuni iā ia.
Manaʻo ʻoe i ka mālama ʻana i kēia ʻikepili hōkū koʻikoʻi mai iā mākou e kuhikuhi ana i ka makahiki o ka luku ʻia ʻana o Ierusalema i ka "kaohi ʻana i nā ʻikepili e hiki ai ke hoʻololi i ka ʻike" iā mākou ma kahi o 607 BCE a me 1914 CE? ʻO ka ʻoihana, ma o kāna kumu aʻo kumu, "e ʻōlelo ākea a me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo" me mākou?
E kala paha iā mākou ma ke ʻano he hewa i hana ʻia ma muli o ka hemahema. Akā e hoʻomanaʻo, e wehewehe ana ʻo Gerrit Losch i ka mea i ʻike ʻia he wahaheʻe. Ke hana kuhihewa kahi Karistiano ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ke ʻano o ka hana e ʻike ai a hoʻoponopono. Eia nō naʻe, pehea e pili ana i ka mea e ʻōlelo nei he Karistiano ʻoiaʻiʻo ka mea ʻike i kahi mea ʻoiaʻiʻo a hūnā naʻe i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo e hoʻomau i ke aʻo wahaheʻe. He aha kā Gerrit Losch i kāhea ai i kēlā?
He aha ka mea e hoʻoikaika ai i kēlā hana?
Pono mākou e hoʻomanaʻo i ka pinning 607 BCE i ka makahiki o ka luku ʻia ʻana o Ierusalema ʻo ia ka pōhaku kihi o ke aʻo ʻana o 1914. E neʻe i ka lā i 588, a neʻe ka helu no ka hoʻomaka o nā lā hope loa i 1934. Lilo lākou i ke Kaua Honua Honua, ka Spanish Influenza a me nā wī i hoʻokumu ʻia e ke kaua ma ke ʻano he ʻāpana o kā lākou "hōʻailona hui". ʻOi aku ka hewa, ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke koi hou iā 1919 e like me ka makahiki a Iesū Iesu i koho ai iā lākou ma ke ʻano he Kauwa Hoʻolohe a Pono hoʻi (Matiu 24: 45-47). Me ka ʻole o kēlā koho 1919, ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke koi i ka kuleana e hoʻohana i ka mana ma ka inoa o ke Akua ma luna o kā Kahuna hipa. No laila, he hoihoi nui ko lākou i ke kākoʻo ʻana i ke aʻo ʻana o 1914. Eia nō naʻe, paʻakikī e noʻonoʻo i nā kāne āu i mahalo ai i kou ola āpau ke hiki ke hana me ka ʻike maoli i ka hoʻopunipuni nui. Eia nō naʻe, nānā ka mea noʻonoʻo loiloi i ka hōʻike, a ʻaʻole ʻae i ka ʻuhane e uhi i kona noʻonoʻo.
(No ka nānā ʻana pono o ka ʻōlelo aʻo 1914, ʻike 1914 - He Litany o kahi huna.)
Hōʻike Uʻi hou
Aia kekahi ʻāpana hōʻike ʻē aʻe a lākou i hoʻopaʻa ai. E like me kā mākou i ʻike ai ma ka ʻatikala hope loa, pono lākou iā mākou e ʻae i ka manaʻoʻiʻo aia he 20 mau makahiki ma ke kaʻina manawa o nā aliʻi o Babulona. Hāʻawi kēlā āpau i manaʻo ʻia e neʻe lākou i ka lā o ka luku ʻia ʻana o Ierusalema i ka makahiki 607. Wahi a lākou aia he 20 mau makahiki o ka ʻike i nalowale mai ka moʻolelo i kākau ʻia. I ka ʻatikala hope loa, hōʻike mākou i ka loaʻa ʻole o kahi āpau. Hōʻike pū paha ka ʻikepili hōkū i ka loaʻa ʻole o kahi āpau? Eia ka papa inoa o nā mōʻī ʻelua ma mua iā Nebukaneza.
| King | Ka helu o nā makahiki | Ka Pahu Hoʻohālikelike |
| Kandalanu | 22 makahiki | 647 - 626 TK |
| Nabopolassar | 21 makahiki | 625 - 605 TK |
| Nebukaneza | 43 makahiki | 604 - 562 TK |
Kuhi ʻia kēia mau inoa a me ka lā o ka "Saturn Tablet (Hale Hōʻikeʻike Papaʻi ʻo BM 76738 + BM 76813) aia i loaʻa i loko o kahi puke i kākau ʻia e NW Swerdlow, me ke poʻo inoa. He Kahuna Kūlana Kūlana a Mokuna 3, "Nā Hōʻike Babulona o Saturn".[I]
Ua hōʻike ʻia ka papa 2 o kēia papa ma ka makahiki 1, ka mahina 4, ka lā 24 o ka noho aliʻi ʻana o Kandalanu, aia nō ʻo Saturn i mua o ka uka ʻo Crab.
Ke hoʻohana nei i ka ʻikepili mai kēia papa a me nā makahiki i hoʻopaʻa ʻia o ke au o kēlā me kēia mōʻī, hiki iā mākou ke ʻike i ka hoʻomau ʻana o ka ʻikepili astronomical i nā kūlana o Saturn a hoʻi i ka Mōʻī Kandalanu i hoʻomaka i ka noho aliʻi ʻana ma 647 BCE
ʻO kēia hōʻoia ʻelua, ma hope o ka hōʻike mai kā mākou ʻatikala hope loa, pili i kahi kuʻi hoʻokahi i ʻelua i ka moʻohelu a ka Hui o kahi āpau 20 mau makahiki. Me ke kanalua ʻole, ʻo kēia ke kumu i ʻike ʻole ai kēia hōʻike i ke ala i loko o ka ʻatikala ʻelua ʻāpana.
Ke ninaninau nei i ka paio a ka hale kiaʻi
Ma ka ʻaoʻao 25 o ka lā Nopepa 2011, ʻike mākou i kēia hoʻopaʻapaʻa ʻana i ka 607 T.K.
Ma kahi o nā kikoʻī i hōʻike ʻia, aia kekahi 13 mau hiʻohiʻona o ka lunar ma ka papa papa a 15 Ka nānā aku honua. ^ E Ha yM. ʻO kēia ka wehewehe ʻana i ke kūlana o ka mahina a i ka hoʻolālā ʻana paha e pili ana i kekahi o nā hōkū a me kēia mele.18
Ma muli o ka hilinaʻi nui loa o nā kūlana lunar, ua ʻike pono nā mea noiʻi i kēia mau 13 o nā kūlana lunar ma VAT 4956.
No ke aha lākou e hele nei no nā kūlana lunar ma luna o nā ʻike honua. Wahi a footnote 18: "ʻOiai ka mōakāka o ka hōʻailona cuneiform no ka mahina a maopopo ʻole hoʻi, kekahi mau hōʻailona no nā inoa o nā papa a maopopo ʻole ko lākou kūlana. “
ʻAʻole paha e ʻike ka mea heluhelu hilinaʻi i ka haʻi ʻole ʻia ʻana o kahi mau hōʻailona no nā inoa o nā h ... Hoʻohui ʻia, ʻaʻole haʻi ʻia iā mākou nā mea noiʻi i nānā pono i nā "13 hoʻonohonoho o nā kūlana lunar". No mākou e hōʻoia ʻaʻohe bias, ʻaʻohe pili o kēia mau mea noiʻi me ka Hui. Eia hou, no ke aha lākou e kaʻanalike ʻole ai i nā kikoʻī o kā lākou noiʻi e like me kā mākou i hana ai ma aneʻi i kēia ʻatikala, i hiki ai i ka poʻe heluhelu o Ka Hale Palama hiki iā ia ke hōʻoia i nā ʻike no lākou iho?
No ka hoʻohālikelike, hana lākou i kēia koi mai ka lua ʻO Kekemapa moʻolelo:
"ʻOiai ʻaʻole kūlike kēia mau hoʻonohonoho kūlana lunar i ka makahiki 568/567 BCE, ua kau like nā seta he 13 i nā kūlana i helu ʻia no 20 mau makahiki i hala aku nei, no ka makahiki 588/587 BCE" (p. 27)
Ua ʻike ʻia mākou ma ia mau mea ʻelua ʻO Kekemapa Ua kāpae ʻia a hōʻike hewa ʻia paha nā ʻatikala i hōʻike hewa ʻia i ka ʻikepili archaeological paʻakikī a me nā astronomical a me nā hōʻike kumu kumu mua. ʻO Gerrit Losch, i loko o ke wikiō i hōʻike mua ʻia, ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia: “ʻO ka hoʻopunipuni a me nā hapalua hoʻi pono e hoʻonāukiuki i ka hilinaʻi. ʻ sayslelo mai kahi ʻano ʻōlelo Kelemania: "ʻO ka mea wahaheʻe ʻole i manaʻoʻiʻo ʻia, inā ʻo ia ka ʻōlelo i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo."
Hāʻawi ʻia i kēlā, ʻaʻohe hiki iā lākou ke manaʻo iā mākou e lawe i nā mea āpau a lākou i kākau ai he ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻeuanelio. Pono mākou e nānā i nā mea no mākou iho e ʻike inā lākou e haʻi mai nei iā mākou i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo a alakaʻi hewa paha iā mākou. He mea paʻakikī paha ia no mākou e hānai ʻia ai he mau ʻIke e manaʻoʻiʻo he hiki i ke alakaʻi ʻana o ka Hui ke hana i ka hoʻopunipuni me ka makemake ʻole, akā ʻo nā mea a mākou i hōʻike ʻole ai e paʻakikī ke nānā i kahi ala ʻē aʻe. Hāʻawi ʻia ia, e lawe mākou i kahi manawa ma kahi ʻatikala e hiki mai ana e nānā i kā lākou noi e ʻike inā pili maoli ka ʻike lunar i 588 a me 586 BCE.
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[I] E hoʻohana i ka https://www.worldcat.org/ e huli ai i kēia puke ma kāu waihona kūloko.
[Ii]http://www.adamoh.org/TreeOfLife.wan.io/OTCh/VAT4956/VAT4956ATranscriptionOfItsTranslationAndComments.htm
Ua noiʻi nui au e pili ana i ka ʻikepili 607 BCE, a ʻoiai ʻo Ieremia e ʻōlelo ana i ka wānana ʻo nā makahiki 70 ʻo ia ka mana o Babulona ma luna o nā lāhui me Ierusalema a me Iuda kekahi mau kikokikona i hōʻike maoli ʻia ua hoʻopili ʻia kahi pōpilikia iā Ierusalema ma ke ʻano he hoʻopaʻi mai Iēhova. A ʻo ka pōʻino a i ʻole nā makahiki 70 e hoʻomaka a hoʻomaka paha me ke kūlanakauhale e kāhea ana i kona inoa, ʻo ia hoʻi ʻo Ierusalema. (Ieremia 25:29). A ma nā pauku 32 a me 33, ua wehewehe ʻo ia i ka calamid ma ke ʻano he pepehi kanaka he nui. Aole anei i hoike mai o Ieremia ma keia mau olelo, o ka... Pākuhi hou »
Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi pou kahi e hōʻike ai kekahi i ka ʻole o ka hilinaʻi ʻo VAT 4956. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ka mea aʻu e manaʻo ai e pili ana i kēlā.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/260873/jw-apologist-writes-about-vat-4956#4826225
E kala mai no ka lohi o kaʻu kamaʻilio ʻana ua ʻike wau i ka pūnaewele ... akā i loko o nā puke paʻi ʻO ka puke paipala ua ʻōlelo lākou he ʻelua makahiki ka hoʻi ʻana o nā Iudaio i Ierusalema ʻOiai ma mua o ka pau ʻana o 70 mau makahiki o ka lawe pio ʻana, ua hiolo ʻo Babulona, i ka makahiki 539 TK nā pūʻali koa komo hewa o ka mōʻī Peresia ʻo Kuro. I ka makahiki mua o kona noho aliʻi ʻana ma Babulona, ua hāʻawi ʻo Kuro i kahi ʻōlelo e wehe ana i ke ala no ka poʻe Iudaio i lawe pio ʻia e hoʻi i Ierusalema. (Ezr 1: 1-4) ʻO ke koena i helu ʻia he 42,360 (me nā kāne, nā wahine, a me nā keiki) i huakaʻi, a hōʻea i Iuda i ka makahiki 537 TK (Ezr 1: 5–3: 1; 4: 1) Pēlā ka... Pākuhi hou »
Me ka hele ʻole ʻana i kahi hohonu hohonu i kaʻu noiʻi ʻana, e ʻōlelo wau ʻaʻole hiki ʻole ia. ʻO ka hoʻi ʻana i Ziona kahi mea i hoʻomaka me kahi hui liʻiliʻi, no laila ua kūpono ka helu 42,360. Eia nō naʻe, inā ʻoe e huakaʻi mai ʻIraka a i ʻIseraʻela ma ka wāwae, paʻakikī e noʻonoʻo e koho kekahi e hoʻolōʻihi ma ke ala.
ʻAno. He mea ʻē maoli nō hoʻi ia iaʻu, no ka mea ʻo ka mea maopopo wale nō i ʻōlelo ʻia i ko lākou hiki ʻana mai i ka mahina 7 o ka makahiki mua o ke aliʻi ʻo Kuro. ʻAʻohe mea e hoʻonohonoho kūpono i ka lōʻihi o kahi huakaʻi i hala. Me he mea lā he mea nui ka wanana.
ʻO ia ka ʻoiaʻiʻo maoli; hoʻokū ʻana i ka manaʻo wanana i nā mea āpau o kēlā me kēia mea. Inā pau ʻoe e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i ia mea, ua like nā nui o nā Adventist me ka numerology. Inā hoʻoholo ʻoe i nā rula wehewehe i kāu hele ʻana, hiki iā ʻoe ke kiʻi i nā manaʻo mai nā mea āpau. Ua hōʻike ʻia aku ka ʻIseraʻela iā lākou e ʻimi ana i nā hōʻailona o kēia ʻano me ka ʻōlelo ʻole e ʻae i nā soothsayers, a me nā mea like paha, i waenakonu o lākou. He ala maikaʻi loa kēia e hoʻokele i kāu mau hihia. Inā hoʻokomo ʻia kahi palapala nui i loko o kahi kamepiula a hoʻololi ʻoe i ka nui o nā huapalapala ma kēlā me kēia laina, hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa a pau... Pākuhi hou »
[…] E ʻike ai i ka ʻatikala aʻe o kēia moʻo, e hāhai i kēia loulou. […]
Makemake wau e nānā i kēia puke: https://archive.org/details/treegenerationsandappointedtimes.7z
E ʻoluʻolu e haʻi mai iā mākou i ke kumu e makemake ai ʻoe i kēia puke.
Aloha Vivlon, mahalo no ka noi ʻana. ʻO kēia kaʻu lei aloha aʻu e haʻaheo loa ai. Ua pau wau ma hope o nā makahiki o ka noiʻi. Heluhelu wau "The gentile time reconsidered" as you, I presume. Eia nō naʻe, ʻike wau i ka hemo ʻana i nā manawa he 7 a keu hoʻi ʻo 607 bc he pilikia loa mai ka manaʻo Karistiano. Makemake wau e kaʻana i kaʻu hopena me ka poʻe opem manaʻo!
Kāhea mai iaʻu iā Meleti, e ʻoluʻolu. No ke aha e hōʻike ʻole ai i ka pilikia hoʻopunipuni no ka luku ʻana iā Ierusalema?
Oke, Meleti. Inā he mau ʻōlelo ka mea o ka moolelo o kēia wā, ma mua o Ieremia a me Daniʻela he mau kāula wahaheʻe. Hoʻopau maikaʻi wale kēia inā makemake mākou i heʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻAʻole hiki ke hoʻokaʻawale ʻia nā makahiki 70 o Ierusalema a me Iuda i kahi kuauhau me ka ʻole e hoʻohālikelike ʻia i nā ʻōlelo a kēia mau kāula ʻelua. Ma ka hopena domino e pono iā mākou e hoʻokomo i ka Baibala e like me ka ʻōlelo a ke Akua. Heluhelu iā ia, 100 ʻaoʻao.
Ua ʻike wau i kāu ʻōlelo mua ua hoʻopiʻi ʻoe i ka manaʻo hāmama i waena o mākou. Manaʻo wau he mea palekana ke ʻōlelo ʻana ma hope o ke kamaʻilio pū ʻana me kēia mau kaikunāne no nā makahiki ʻewalu i hala, paʻakikī e loaʻa ka hui hāmama ʻoi aku ka manaʻo. Eia naʻe, no ka mea he hāmama ka manaʻo ʻaʻole makemake ia e hele hou i kahi hōʻike like like. ʻO ka manaʻo o ia mea makemake kekahi e nānā i nā hōʻike āpau ma mua o ke kahakaha ʻana i kahi hopena. I ka manawa e loaʻa ai nā hōʻike āpau a kuhikuhi ia i kahi ʻoiaʻiʻo, he aha ka pono ma laila e hana hou ai. No... Pākuhi hou »
ʻAeʻoluʻolu e hoʻolohe i waena o nā poʻe makaʻaka ʻole. Mahalo nui wau iā! Eia nō naʻe, ʻo kāu hoʻoiho ʻana, ʻaʻohe mea hōʻike hou e hōʻike mai iaʻu e kaumaha ai. Ua kākau wau i ka puke ʻana o ka puke (AKU WTS), a ua hoʻopau wau i ka hope ma hope o ka YEARS o ka noiʻi. ʻAʻohe ʻoe i hōʻole loa i ka ʻike! ʻA ʻole nā kānaka hewa i ka palau, ʻaʻole wau he neʻe, akā ke hoʻāʻo nei wau e hōʻike i ka mahalo i nā kānaka a pau! Eia naʻe, mahalo no ka manawa e ʻōlelo ai i ka mea aʻu i manaʻo ai he mea nui. Eia kekahi crumbles mai kaʻu puke i pili i nā... Pākuhi hou »
Ua kākau ʻoe, "Akā, ʻo kāu ʻike i ka inoa ʻole o nā mea hou e hāʻawi aku ai i kaumaha iaʻu." Aia paha ʻoe i ka hoʻohewa ʻia, akā ʻaʻole naʻe wau i hoʻopiʻi ʻia. Inā ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole au i ʻōlelo inā 'inā mākou i nalowale i kekahi mea no laila, no ke aha e hoʻākāka ʻole ai i loko o kāu ʻōlelo.' ʻO kaʻuʻaoʻao, ke manaʻo nei ʻoe iā mākou e hoʻolimalima i ka nui o ka manawa i ka manaolana he mea hou. ʻAʻole maopopo mākou iā ʻoe no ke aha e hāʻawi kālā ai mākou i kēlā nui o ka manawa me ke kumu ʻole? ʻAʻole makemake ʻia kēlā mea kūpono loa iā ʻoe e haʻi i nā mea... Pākuhi hou »
Inā hiki iaʻu ke mele, makemake wau e hāʻawi i koʻu kuanaʻike e pili ana i kēia mea. Ua kūkākūkā wau i nā mea he 607 me kekahi mau JW, ex JW a me nā poʻe ma kahi e kū nei nā kānalua. ʻAneʻane pinepine, ke haʻi wau ʻo ka lā pololei ma ka ʻoka o 587 a i ʻole 586 BCE, ʻo ka hopena koke e hōʻike ana ua hoʻomaka ka End Times ma 1934 a i ʻole 1935. I koʻu ʻano o ka noʻonoʻo ʻana, haʻo ʻole kēia i ke kiko. ʻOihana 1: 6 A ʻākoakoa lākou, nīnau akula iā ia, E ka Haku, e hoʻihoʻi anei ʻoe i kēia aupuni i kēia manawa?... Pākuhi hou »
Hoʻokipa mau ʻia kou mau chime, Chet.
Mahalo kuʻu haku. E hoʻomau wau i ka chiming. 🙂
Mahalo iā ʻoe e Eric no ka noʻonoʻo maikaʻi loa, e hoʻohana ana i nā hoʻopaʻapaʻa mōʻaukala a me nā hōkū. Maopopo ke ala o ka wehewehe ʻana, kiʻi pono ʻia a me kāu ʻatikala (a me ka ʻĀpana 1 mua) hiki ke lilo i mea maikaʻi no nā JW he nui e ala ana. E hoʻohana pū wau ia. Mahalo pū kekahi i nā mea hoʻopuka manaʻo no nā manaʻo hoihoi.
Aloha oukou a pau. Frankie.
ʻO Eric, he ʻatikala hoihoi loa ia, manaʻo wau e hoʻāʻo kūʻē i ka polokalamu i kekahi manawa. Aia ma hea kahi o nā palapala hemolele maʻalahi e hōʻoia ai i ka 587 BCE ʻo ia ka lā e hiolo ai ʻo Ierusalema? 1. Hilinaʻi ia i ka lā nui a ʻaʻohe paio ma ka lā i kākau ʻia ai. 2. Hoʻohana ia i hoʻokahi paukū a me ʻelua mau palapala hemolele i hōʻoia i kona kuhi. 3. ʻAʻole hiki ke helu hewa. 4. ʻOiai ʻo ka hoʻāʻo ʻana a JW Org e hōʻino i kona hilinaʻi ʻaʻole e paʻa ka wai. 5. ʻAʻohe hoʻopaʻapaʻa e pili ana i nā hanana i kuhikuhi ʻia (Haule ʻo Ierusalema... Pākuhi hou »
ʻO ka makahiki ʻehā o Dariu i ka makahiki 518. ʻO ka hopu maikaʻi ʻana, ʻo Leonardo!
ʻAʻole wau i puni i kekahi manawa. Pono wau e aʻo a lawe i ka ʻike i nā makahiki i hala iho nei. He huakaʻi lōʻihi loa ia. Akā kūlohelohe ia me ka manaʻo hoʻopunipuni ʻole, ua hoʻihoʻi iaʻu i ka pōʻai piha i ka ʻōlelo a ke Akua. I kaʻu huakaʻi, ua aʻo nui wau i ka papahana HOU KANAKAU HOU. ʻAʻole kēia he kūkulu kanaka-i kūkulu ʻia. He papahana kupua nui ia a ka hapanui e hiamoe nei. No ke aha wau e haʻi nei i kēia? Ma muli o koʻu hoʻopaʻa ʻana i kēia papahana, hoʻomau ka hoʻi o koʻu noʻonoʻo i nā mea like i waena o kēia kumuhana a me ka The Watchtower. ʻO ka mea mua, ma ka CIA... Pākuhi hou »
Maikaʻi e hoʻolohe mai iā Vinman. ʻAʻohe oʻu noho iki no ka wā iho. Ua hele nō hoʻi au i ka hopena like ʻole.
Paha,
WS
Hiki iā ʻoe ke hāʻawi iā mākou i kēlā loulou i ka Pūnaewele CIA e pili ana i ka Nūhou a me ka Illuminati?
Pehea mākou e ʻike inā he ʻoiaʻiʻo kekahi?
Aloha Meleti,
Ua heluhelu wau i kēlā mau palapala ma mua, ʻoiai hoihoi loa a ʻike wau he hapa nui ka hapa nui, he bias mau nō ia o ke kumumanaʻo kipi honua, a i koʻu manaʻo ʻaʻole nā palapala kūhelu mai ka CIA.
Psalmbee
Mahalo, Ke noi wale nei. Ua hopohopo wau ʻo ia ka hihia, akā ʻaʻole makemake wau e hana wikiwiki. ʻAʻole wau makemake i ka pūnaewele e hoʻolaha i nā manaʻo kipi. Ua nui loa nā mea i waho, a kaumaha, nui loa ka poʻe e manaʻoʻiʻo nei i kekahi mea no ka mea ua lawe kekahi i ka manawa e kākau iho.
ʻAʻole maopopo i ka mea e hana ai i kēlā kumuwaiwai, ʻo Vinman, ʻoiai ua alakaʻi ia iaʻu i kahi puke hoihoi hou aʻe o "The Watch Tower and the Masons", e heluhelu ana e pili ana i ka "The Brotherhood" na Stephen Knight. I ka puke paipala ʻo The Watch Tower a me ka Masons ua ʻōlelo ka mea kākau "ʻoiai he waiwai kā ka WT e hoʻomaikaʻi ai iā ia iho, ʻaʻole maoli ke kumu i ka ulu pilikino, akā no nā quota hana". Hoʻohālikelike ka mea kākau i kēia i nā ʻōnaehana komunista kahiko, kahi e hana ai nā hale hana ʻaʻole hoʻokō i ka noi, akā e hana i kahi quota. ʻO ka nele o ka "Malamalama Hou" ke kumu nui o kēia... Pākuhi hou »
Ke manaʻo nei ua lawe ʻia ʻo Ted Bundy i ka inoa ʻohana Bundy i ka piha ʻana o kona mau makahiki he ʻelima i ka wā i male ai kona makuahine i kekahi o kēlā inoa ʻohana, e ʻōlelo wau ʻo ka loulou me ka ʻohana o Mc George Bundy aia wale nō i ka manaʻo o kekahi. He mea hauʻoli ia e ʻike i kekahi loulou ma waena o ka hale kiaʻi a me nā kānaka me ka hoʻoilina o ka hewa, akā ʻaʻole au e paʻa ana i koʻu hanu. ʻOiai inā ua hōʻoia ʻia ʻo Russell ma ke ʻano he charlatan satanist, ʻaʻole pili kēlā i kēia lā. ʻO ka hale kiaʻi o ko Russell wā i hana ʻia e nā loli o ka Rutherford... Pākuhi hou »
ʻAe Vinman,
Ke ʻae pū nei au i kou hopena. I ka manawa aʻu i lilo ai ma ke ʻano he JW ua maopopo wau i ka ʻĀlelo Hou a ua hana nui i ka ʻimi ʻana a hoʻomau i kā lākou papahana. I ka manawa aʻu i manaʻo ai he mea kānalua loa ka hoʻohana ʻana o ka Society i nā ʻano like like ʻole. Ke lawe nei ʻoe i waho, ka unuhi honua Hou a me ka Honua Hou e nānā nei mākou i mua. Ua manaʻo wau, he mea hou kēia o ka poʻe Satani, e hoʻohālike i ke kumu o Iēhova. I kēia manawa ʻike wau ʻoi aku. Aole lakou e hoopuka nei i ka manao o ke Akua.
Aloha kā Vinman ʻAʻohe maoli e makaʻu i ka wānana o New World Order. Ke wānana nei nā kānaka i nā ʻano hanana like ʻole o ka lā hope ma ka moʻolelo mua e hōʻike nei i loaʻa iā mākou. I loko o ke ao Komohana he mau mea e like me ka moena e pākuʻi ana i kekahi e wānana ʻia e hiki aku i 2030 akā ma ka ʻaoʻao hikina o ke ao nei e manaʻoʻiʻo kekahi mea ʻē aʻe e hiki mai i ka lā hope loa o 2030. He 7 biliona mau kanaka poʻe manuahi i ka honua me kēlā me kēia ko lākou mau moemoe i kēia pō a puni i ko lākou mau poʻo. ʻO001 paha ka ʻoihana o ka poʻe nūpepa e wānana ana i kekahi mea... Pākuhi hou »
I ka hapa nui o koʻu ola, lawe au i ka poʻe Pila i kā lākou ʻōlelo. ʻAʻole loa au i nānā i ka pololei o kā lākou ʻōlelo. Hoʻomaopopo wau i ka noʻonoʻo, i kekahi manawa, ua kau mākou i ka hilinaʻi nui i kēia mau kāne, akā ua manaʻoʻiʻo ua hoʻokomo maikaʻi ʻia i loko o nā makahiki he nui. Ke haʻalele nei wau i ka hana me he JW, no ka mea palaualelo a me ka hoʻopiʻi ʻana, kekahi o ke kumukūʻai nui iaʻu, ʻoiai ua pale ʻo ia iaʻu iho i kēlā me kēia kīkaha like ʻole a me nā kumu hoʻopiʻi kumu ʻole. Ua makemake au i kahi mana o ka manaʻolana e loaʻa ka hoʻoponopono a me ka... Pākuhi hou »