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by Meleti Vivlon | Nov 11, 2021 | wā i hoʻomaopopo | 20 pākuʻi
ʻAʻole wau i ʻike i ka pili ʻana o Roma 14:12 me ka ʻae ʻole i ka makemake ʻole i ka lehulehu lehulehu o kahi pūnaewele loiloi JW? Eia nō naʻe, ʻaʻole wau ʻae i nā loli hou. ʻOi aku ka hewa ma mua o ka mea a YouTube i hana ai. Ua hele lākou mai ka hōʻike ʻana i ka nui o nā makemake ʻole i loaʻa i kahi wikiō, i ka hōʻike ʻole ʻana i ka nui o nā makemake ʻole i loaʻa i kahi wikiō. Akā ma ka liʻiliʻi hiki iā ʻoe ke makemake ʻole. ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i kekahi o ia mea ma ʻaneʻi. Akā, ʻaʻole wau ʻae ʻole me lākou. Kūleʻa wau ma ia mea. A, ʻoiaʻiʻo, maikaʻi wau me ia. ʻO Eric ke alakaʻi ma hope o nā mea a pau, no laila kāna ʻōlelo... Pākuhi hou »
Auwe! Genius kuʻu kaikunāne! ʻAʻole wau i noʻonoʻo i kekahi o kēia mau mea ma mua !! Mahalo nui loa, e kōkua nui kēia. Ke hōʻuluʻulu nei au i kahi papa inoa piha o nā aʻo wahaheʻe a JW i aʻo ai, a me nā pilikia āpau me ka GB a me WT (e like me ka hui UN a me ka uhi ʻana i ka hoʻomāinoino keiki). Hoʻohui wale kēia i ke koʻikoʻi i nā kumu ʻē aʻe i hewa ʻole ai ke aʻo ʻana o 1914. Mahalo e ko'u kaikunāne, hau'oli lā! 🙂
"Inā hiki iā mākou ke pane i nā mea āpau me ka" ʻae ", ʻaʻole loaʻa iā mākou ka "hōʻoia" o kekahi mea, i kekahi ala a i ʻole, no ka mea, ʻaʻole hōʻoia ka Baibala ponoʻī. He hoike. I kēia manawa, e ʻae wau he hōʻike maikaʻi ka Baibala - ʻo ka hōʻike maikaʻi loa. Akā, pono mākou e ʻae ʻo ia, ʻoiaʻiʻo, he hōʻike, a hoʻohana a noʻonoʻo e like me ia. I kēia manawa, ʻaʻole makemake paha kekahi mau Kalikiano i kēlā manaʻo, a ʻaʻole paha lākou i ka manaʻo o ka Baibala i kapa ʻia ʻo "hōʻike" ma kahi o ka hōʻoia. Maopopo iaʻu kēlā. Bro, ʻo wai ka mea ʻike ʻole i kēlā? ʻAe, koʻu hewa, ʻo wau... Pākuhi hou »
Je ne suis pas pour interdire les votes mais autoriser un vote négatif qu'à condition d'expliquer par un commentaire les raisons de ce vote négatif me paraît une très bonne idée.
Hiki paha?
I koʻu ʻike, ʻaʻohe plug manaʻo i kākoʻo i kēlā pae o ka hana. Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻopau i ke koho balota a i ʻole hiki iā mākou ke hoʻomohala i nā ʻili mānoanoa. 🙂
Hoʻohaʻahaʻa wau i nā manawa āpau ma YouTube. ʻIke wau ʻo ia wale nō ke kumukūʻai a mākou e uku ai no ka hiki ke hoʻolaha i ko mākou mau manaʻo i ka lehulehu.
Mhmmm. Ua lawa ka'u kaikunane.
Aloha ʻoe ʻo Meleti me ka palapala ma ka helu 6: 24-26 ……. E hoʻomau i kēia ala me ka ʻae ʻana o Iēhova a me Iesu Kristo…
Mahalo iā ʻoe, e Aleks.
Ua hala anei ʻoe i ka ʻāpana āna i ʻōlelo ai, "a i ʻole hiki iā mākou ke hana i nā ʻili mānoanoa”?
"ʻO kahi koho i lalo he helu, ʻaʻole he manaʻo." Hewa, ʻelua. Hōʻike ka helu i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, e like me ka helu 5 hiki ke hōʻike i nā ʻalani 5. ʻAʻole ʻo ka helu 5 ka ʻalani, akā hōʻike ia. ʻO ia ke kumu maoli o nā helu. Hōʻike ʻia kahi koho ma ke ʻano he helu(+1 a i ʻole -1), a he manaʻo ia (ʻae wau i kēia ʻōlelo a i ʻole ʻae ʻole wau i kēia manaʻo). "Hāʻawi ʻo YouTube i nā helu Vote Up a Vote Down kaʻawale, ʻoiai ʻaʻole ʻo BP. No laila, ʻaʻole hiki i kahi koho haʻahaʻa ma YouTube ke hōʻole a hūnā i kekahi mau koho. Eia naʻe, ʻo ke kaʻina hana koho ma BP ka hopena i ka "nalo o ka ʻike".... Pākuhi hou »
E kala mai, ua manaʻo wau e kākau ma ka pane ʻana iā "He helu-koho he helu, ʻaʻole manaʻo."; Hewa, ʻelua. Hōʻike ka helu i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, e like me ka helu 5 hiki ke hōʻike, e ʻōlelo, he hui ʻalani. ʻAʻole ka helu 5 ka hui ʻalani, akā hōʻike ia. ʻO ia ke kumu o nā helu. He mau mea abstract lākou i hoʻohana ʻia e hōʻike i nā ʻoiaʻiʻo paʻa. Hōʻike ʻia kahi koho ma ke ʻano he helu (+1 a i ʻole -1), ʻo ia hoʻi he mea abstract, a he mea maoli ia, he manaʻo maoli i loaʻa i kekahi (ʻae wau i kēia ʻōlelo a i ʻole ʻae ʻole wau i kēia ʻōlelo). ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi o kēia ʻōlelo... Pākuhi hou »
Ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au he ʻokoʻa ka manaʻo ma waena o nā koho maikaʻi a maikaʻi ʻole. ʻO ka pāloka maikaʻi ʻo ia ka ʻae ʻana a i ʻole mākou i manaʻoʻiʻo he maikaʻi ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa a i ʻole ka hōʻike. ʻAʻole pono kēlā i ka wehewehe nui. (Laʻana: Inā ʻelua kanaka e nānā ana i ka napoʻo ʻana o ka lā maikaʻi, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hoʻohana i nā huaʻōlelo he nui – e ʻoliʻoli wale i ka napoʻo ʻana o ka lā.) Akā naʻe, ʻo ka koho ʻole ʻana ke manaʻo nei mākou he hewa kekahi. Aka, i ka mea a? Nui ka poʻe i ʻae ʻole iaʻu, akā inā ʻaʻole lākou e haʻi mai iaʻu i ke kumu, pehea lā wau e hoʻomaikaʻi ai? ʻAʻole wau ʻike i nā mea a pau. I... Pākuhi hou »
He mea hoʻohilahila mau ke ʻike ʻana i nā pōlota maikaʻi ʻole me ka manaʻo ʻole. Inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻae i ka ʻōlelo a kekahi, he aha ka mea e hoʻōki ai i kou wehewehe ʻana i ke kumu, ʻo wai ʻoe?
Aloha ʻoe i nā kaikunāne a me nā kaikuahine mai nā wahi a pau o ka honua… .. He mea hou wau i kēia forum a ʻo wau kekahi o nā Molimau a Iēhova… makemake wau e hoʻomaikaʻi iā ʻoukou a pau no kāu mau ʻatikala maikaʻi loa…. Meleti, Apollos, Alex Rover, Tadua, Eleasar, Elpida, James Penton, Anderestime .... a me ʻoukou a pau me kā ʻoukou mau ʻōlelo hoʻoikaika a hoʻoikaika…. ʻO nā pūnaewele ʻē aʻe me nā Molimau a Iēhova kahiko ua hoʻololi i ka atheism a me ka agnosticism ... Ua manaʻo wau ʻo wau wale nō ka mea i kēia ao i ʻike i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo a hūnā ʻia akā ua loaʻa iaʻu ʻoe… ..... Pākuhi hou »
e noʻonoʻo wale ana …….. makemake wau e hoʻomaikaʻi aku iā ʻoe no kāu hoʻokipa a me kāu ʻōlelo aʻo maikaʻi …… aia kēia hui i nā Karistiano e komo hohonu i ka Baibala a i mea e hōʻuluʻulu ai i nā ʻāpana a hana i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo hapa…. no ka mea ʻaʻohe o mākou i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo piha ……. i loko o ka JW Kingdom Hall ua lilo lākou i palaualelo a no kēlā me kēia kumuhana e hoʻohana i ka noi (JW Library) a ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke hoʻohana i ka Baibala… .. Mataio 28:20
ʻO ka ʻōlelo hoʻoluʻu puʻuwai ʻo Aleks. ʻO wau kekahi he JW ikaika a mālama i koʻu manaʻoʻiʻo i ke Akua, kāna Keiki a me ka Baibala. Ua ʻike au he ʻike kaʻawale ka ala ala ʻana me ka manaʻo ʻo wau wale nō. Ua kōkua maoli ʻo Beroean Pickets iaʻu e hoʻomaopopo ʻaʻole kēia ka hihia. Mahalo hoʻi au i ke aʻo ʻana i ke aʻo pololei ʻana i ka Baibala me koʻu manaʻo he mea nui ke hānai pono ʻia me nā ʻōlelo o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo e like me ka ʻōlelo a ke Akua.
He nūhou nui kēia. Heluhelu au i ka "Crisis of Conscience" i nā hālāwai zoom a e kōkua pū kēia puke iaʻu. He nui ka mahalo.
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Hana maikaʻi ʻo Eric lāua ʻo Karl, ua hina wau i kahi lunakahiko a i ʻole e noʻonoʻo ai iā ia e noʻonoʻo ai i ka hoʻokumu ʻana i ke aupuni mesia me ka ʻole o ka hele ʻana i nā lā, eia ka mea i hana. Nīnau au i ka lunakahiko no ke aha i kākau ʻole ʻia ai ka Baibala ma ka lani e nā ʻānela a hāʻawi ʻia i ke kanaka i alakaʻi? Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia ua kākau ʻia no ka pono o ke kanaka no ka mea ʻaʻole mākou i hemolele. Ua nīnau au hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi mai iaʻu i ke kumu o ke Aupuni Mesia? ʻO kāna pane ʻana e lawe i nā kānaka i ka hemolele a no ka hoʻomaikaʻi ʻana iā Iēhova. Ninau au... Pākuhi hou »
Aloha Eric. mahalo no ka lono. Heluhelu wau i ka puke ma ke ʻano he ala ala, ʻoiai, no nā kumu ʻohana, ʻo wau nō ka PIMO, ʻaʻole naʻe he PI loa i kēia manawa. Ua hana maikaʻi ʻo Karl Olaf Jonsson. ʻO ka laina mana JW ma Daniel 4 ʻo ka lāʻau a Nebukaneza e hōʻike ana iā Ierusalema i ʻoki ʻia i ka makahiki 607 BC, e ola hou ana i 1914. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole i aʻo ʻia ka lā no hoʻokahi makahiki, akā ua hōʻaiʻē wale ʻia mai ka Adventist, ka mea i koho i ka manaʻo kumu mai nā mea i hele ma mua. Ma laila... Pākuhi hou »