Nthawi iliyonse ndikatulutsa kanema wa Utatu - iyi ikhala yachinayi - ndimapeza anthu akunena kuti sindikumvetsetsa chiphunzitso cha Utatu. Iwo akulondola. Ine sindikuzimvetsa izo. Koma mfundo ndi yakuti: Nthawi zonse munthu akandiuza zimenezi, ndimamufunsa kuti andifotokozere. Ngati sindikumvetsa, ndiye mundikonzere, chidutswa ndi chidutswa. Ndine munthu wanzeru ndithu, choncho ndikuganiza kuti ngati atandifotokozera, ndikhoza kuzimvetsa.
Kodi ndimayankha bwanji kwa okhulupirira Utatu amenewa? Ndimapeza zolemba zakale zotopa zomwe ndaziwona kwazaka zambiri. Sindikupeza chatsopano. Ndipo pamene ndisonyeza kusagwirizana m’kulingalira kwawo ndi kusagwirizana kwa malemba pakati pa malemba awo otsimikizira ndi Malemba ena onse, ndimapezanso yankho lachipongwe lakuti: “Simukumvetsetsa Utatu.”
Nachi chinthu: Sindiyenera kuchimvetsa. Zomwe ndikusowa ndi umboni weniweni wosonyeza kuti ilipo. Pali zinthu zambiri zomwe sindimazimvetsa, koma sizikutanthauza kuti ndikukayikira kukhalapo kwawo. Mwachitsanzo, sindikumvetsa momwe mafunde a wailesi amagwirira ntchito. Palibe amene amatero. Osati kwenikweni. Komabe, nthawi zonse ndikamagwiritsa ntchito foni yanga, ndimatsimikizira kuti alipo.
Inenso ndingatsutse za Mulungu. Ndimaona umboni wosonyeza kuti zinthu zinachita kupangidwa mwanzeru m’chilengedwe chondizungulira ( Aroma 1:20 ). Ndikuwona mu DNA yanga. Ndine katswiri wopanga mapulogalamu apakompyuta. Ndikaona zizindikiro za pulogalamu ya pakompyuta, ndimadziwa kuti ndi winawake amene analemba, chifukwa zimaimira mfundo, ndipo mfundozo zimachokera m’maganizo. DNA ndi kachidindo kovutirapo kuposa chilichonse chomwe ndidalembapo, kapena nditha kulemba, pankhaniyi. Lili ndi uthenga umene umalangiza selo limodzi kuti lichuluke m’njira yolondola kwambiri kuti lipange munthu wocholoŵana kwambiri ndi mankhwala komanso mwadongosolo. Chidziwitso nthawi zonse chimachokera m'malingaliro, kuchokera ku chidziwitso chanzeru chokhala ndi cholinga
Ndikadatera pa Mars ndikupeza mawu ojambulidwa pamwala kuti, "Welcome to our world, Earthman." Ndikadadziwa kuti pali luntha pantchito, osati mwachisawawa.
Mfundo yanga ndi yakuti sindiyenera kumvetsa mmene Mulungu alili kuti ndidziwe kuti alipo. Ndikhoza kutsimikizira kukhalapo kwake kuchokera ku umboni wondizungulira, koma sindingathe kumvetsa chikhalidwe chake kuchokera ku umboni umenewo. Pamene kuli kwakuti chilengedwe chimanditsimikizira kukhalako kwa mulungu, sichimatsimikizira kuti iye ali chinthu chachitatu mu chimodzi. Pazimenezi ndikufunika umboni wosapezeka m'chilengedwe. Magwero okha a umboni woterowo ndi Baibulo. Mulungu amavumbula zinazake za umunthu wake kudzera m’mawu ake ouziridwa.
Kodi Mulungu amadziulula kuti ndi Utatu? Amatipatsa dzina lake pafupifupi maulendo 7,000. Munthu angayembekezere kuti atchulenso chikhalidwe chake, komabe mawu akuti Utatu, omwe amachokera ku Chilatini atatu (utatu) palibe paliponse m'Malemba.
Yehova Mulungu, kapena Yahweh ngati mungakonde, wasankha kudziulula ndipo wachita zimenezo m’masamba a Baibulo, koma kodi vumbulutso limenelo limagwira ntchito motani? Zimabwera bwanji kwa ife? Kodi zinalembedwa m'Malemba? Kodi mbali zina za umunthu wake zabisidwa m’malemba opatulika, kuyembekezera kuti anthu ochepa anzeru ndi opatsidwa mwaŵi amvetse mfundo zobisikazo? Kapena, kodi Mulungu wangosankha kuti azinena monga momwe zilili?
Ngati Wam’mwambamwamba, Mlengi wa zinthu zonse, wasankha kuti adziulule kwa ife, kutiululira makhalidwe ake enieni, kodi ife sitiyenera kukhala pa tsamba limodzi? Kodi sitiyenera tonse kukhala ndi kumvetsetsa kofanana?
Ayi, sitiyenera kutero. Chifukwa chiyani ndikunena choncho? Chifukwa si zimene Mulungu amafuna. Yesu akufotokoza kuti:
Pa nthawiyo Yesu ananena kuti: “Ndikuyamikani, Atate, Ambuye wa kumwamba ndi dziko lapansi, chifukwa mudabisira zinthu izi kwa anzeru ndi ophunzira, ndipo munaziululira kwa tiana. Inde, Atate, pakuti ichi chinali chokondweretsa pamaso panu.
Zinthu zonse zaikizidwa kwa Ine ndi Atate wanga. Palibe amene adziwa Mwana koma Atate, ndipo palibe amene akudziwa Atate koma Mwana ndi kwa iwo amene Mwana wasankha kuti amuululire Iye.” ( Mateyu 11:25-27 ).
“Awo amene Mwana wasankha kuwaululira Iye.” Malinga ndi ndimeyi, Mwana sasankha anzeru ndi ophunzira. Pamene ophunzira ake anamufunsa chifukwa chimene anachitira zimenezo iye anawauza mosapita m’mbali kuti:
“Chidziwitso cha zinsinsi za Ufumu wa Kumwamba chapatsidwa kwa inu, koma osati kwa iwo ayi… Chifukwa chake ndilankhula nawo m’mafanizo.” (Ŵelengani Mateyu 13:11,13, XNUMX.)
Ngati wina adziona kuti ndi wanzeru ndi wophunzira, wanzeru ndi wophunzira, wapadera komanso wamasomphenya, ndipo kuti mphatso zimenezi zimam’patsa mphamvu yotha kuzindikira zinthu zozama za Mulungu kwa ife tonse, ngakhale chikhalidwe chenicheni cha Mulungu, ndiye kuti akudzinyenga yekha.
Ife sitimamulingalira Mulungu. Mulungu adzionetsera yekha, kapena makamaka, Mwana wa Mulungu, amatiululira Atate, koma sanaululira Mulungu kwa aliyense, koma kwa osankhidwa okha. Zimenezi n’zofunika kwambiri ndipo tiyenera kuganizira makhalidwe amene Atate wathu amafuna kwa anthu amene amawasankha kuti akhale ana ake. Kodi akufunafuna luso lanzeru? Nanga bwanji aja amene amadzinenera kukhala ndi chidziŵitso chapadera cha mawu a Mulungu, kapena amene amadzinenera kukhala njira ya Mulungu yolankhulirana naye? Paulo akutiuza zomwe Mulungu akufuna:
“Ndipo tikudziwa kuti Mulungu amachitira zinthu zabwino pamodzi wa iwo amene amamukonda Iye, amene anaitanidwa mogwirizana ndi cholinga chake” ( Aroma 8:28 , NW).
Chikondi ndi ulusi umene umayenda mmbuyo ndi mtsogolo kuti ugwirizanitse chidziwitso chonse kukhala chathunthu. Popanda mzimuwo, sitingapeze mzimu wa Mulungu, ndipo popanda mzimuwo, sitingathe kufika ku choonadi. Atate wathu wakumwamba amatisankha chifukwa amatikonda komanso ifeyo timamukonda.
Yohane analemba kuti:
“Taonani chikondicho Atate watipatsa, kuti titchedwe ana a Mulungu. Ndipo ndi zomwe ife tiri!” (1 Yohane 3:1 KJV)
“Iye amene wandiona Ine waona Atate. Unena bwanji kuti, Tiwonetseni Atate? Kodi sukhulupirira kuti Ine ndiri mwa Atate, ndi Atate ali mwa Ine? Mawu amene ndinena kwa inu, sindilankhula mwa Ine ndekha. M’malo mwake, ndi Atate akukhala mwa Ine, akuchita ntchito Zake. Khulupirirani Ine kuti Ine ndiri mwa Atate, ndi Atate ali mwa Ine, kapena khulupirirani chifukwa cha ntchito zomwezo.” ( Yohane 14:9-11 .
Kodi zingatheke bwanji kuti Mulungu afotokoze choonadi m’mawu osavuta kumva ndiponso osavuta kumva, omwe ana ake olera angamvetse, koma zimene amawabisa kwa anthu amene amadziona kuti ndi anzeru ndiponso anzeru? Pakuti ndithudi anzeru kapena aluntha, mwa kuvomereza kwa Yesu mwini pa Mateyu 11:25, sangamvetse tanthauzo la umodzi kapena chikondi pakati pa Atate, Mwana, ndi osankhidwa mwa mzimu woyera chifukwa chakuti nzeru za luntha zimafuna kucholoŵana. kotero kuti likhoza kudzisiyanitsa lokha ndi anthu wamba. (Yohane 17:21-26)
“Sindipempherera iwo okha, komanso iwo amene akhulupirira mwa Ine kudzera mu uthenga wawo, kuti onse akakhale amodzi, monga Inu Atate mwa Ine, ndi Ine mwa Inu. Iwonso akhale mwa Ife. kuti dziko lapansi likakhulupirire kuti Inu munandituma Ine. Ine ndawapatsa iwo ulemerero umene munandipatsa Ine, kuti akhale amodzi monga ife tiri amodzi. Ine mwa iwo, ndi inu mwa Ine, kuti akafike ku umodzi wokha. ndipo dziko lidzazindikira kuti Inu munandituma Ine, ndi kuti munawakonda iwo monga munandikonda Ine.
“Atate, ndifuna kuti amene mwandipatsa Ine akhale pamodzi ndi Ine kumene ndiri, kuti aone ulemerero wanga, ulemerero umene mwandipatsa Ine, chifukwa munandikonda Ine lisanalengedwe dziko lapansi.
“Atate wolungama, ngakhale dziko lapansi silikudziwani, ine ndikukudziwani, ndipo iwo akudziwa kuti inu munandituma Ine. Ndakudziwitsani kwa iwo, ndipo ndipitiriza kukudziwitsani, kuti chikondi chimene munandikonda nacho chikhale mwa iwo, ndi kuti inenso ndikhale mwa iwo.” (Yohane 17: 21-26 BSB)
Umodzi umene Yesu ali nawo ndi Mulungu wazikidwa pa umodzi umene umabwera chifukwa cha chikondi. Uwu ndi umodzi womwewo ndi Mulungu ndi Kristu umene Akristu amakumana nawo. Mudzaona kuti mzimu woyera sunaphatikizidwe mu umodzi umenewu. Tikuyembekezeredwa kukonda Atate, ndipo timayembekezeredwa kukonda Mwana, ndipo tikuyenera kukondana wina ndi mnzake; ndipo koposa pamenepo, timafuna kukonda Atate, kukonda mwana, ndi kukonda abale ndi alongo athu. Koma kodi lamulo la kukonda mzimu woyera lili kuti? Ndithudi, ngati akanakhala munthu wachitatu wa Utatu woyera, lamulo loterolo likanakhala losavuta kulipeza!
Yesu akufotokoza kuti ndi Mzimu wa choonadi umene umatisonkhezera:
“Ndili ndi zambiri zoti ndikuuzeni, koma simungathe kuzimva. Koma Mzimu wa choonadi akadzabwera, adzakutsogolerani m’choonadi chonse. Pakuti sadzalankhula za Iye yekha, koma zimene wamva adzalankhula, ndipo adzalalikira kwa inu zimene zirinkudza.” ( Yohane 16:12, 13 )
Mwachibadwa, ngati mumakhulupirira kuti chiphunzitso cha Utatu chimalongosola mmene Mulungu alili, ndiye kuti mukufuna kukhulupirira kuti mzimu unakutsogolerani ku choonadi chimenecho, sichoncho? Apanso, ngati tiyesa kudzipangira tokha zinthu zozama za Mulungu kutengera malingaliro athu, ndiye kuti tidzalakwitsa nthawi zonse. Timafunika mzimu kuti uzititsogolera. Paulo anati:
“Koma kwa ife Mulungu watiululira zinthu izi mwa Mzimu wake. Pakuti mzimu wake usanthula zinthu zonse, nationetsa zinsinsi zakuya za Mulungu. Palibe amene angadziwe maganizo a munthu kupatulapo mzimu wa munthuyo, ndipo palibe amene angadziwe maganizo a Mulungu kupatulapo mzimu wa Mulungu.” (1 Akorinto 2:10,11, XNUMX)
Sindikhulupirira kuti chiphunzitso cha Utatu chimafotokoza umunthu wa Mulungu, kapena ubale wake ndi Mwana wake, Yesu Kristu. Ndimakhulupiriranso kuti mzimu unanditsogolera kuti ndimvetse zimenezi. Wokhulupirira Utatu adzanenanso chimodzimodzi ponena za kumvetsetsa kwake mkhalidwe wa Mulungu. Tonse sitingakhale olondola, sichoncho? Mzimu umodzimodziwo sunatitsogolere tonse pamfundo zosiyana. Pali choonadi chimodzi chokha, ngakhale pangakhale mabodza ambiri. Paulo akukumbutsa ana a Mulungu kuti:
“Ndikupemphani, abale, m’dzina la Ambuye wathu Yesu Kristu, kuti nonse muvomerezane wina ndi mnzake m’mawu anu, ndi kuti pasakhale malekano pakati pa inu; koma kuti mukhale ogwirizana mwangwiro mu malingaliro ndi malingaliro.” ( 1 Akorinto 1:10 )
Tiyeni tifufuze zokambirana za Paulo za umodzi wa malingaliro ndi kuganiza mochulukira pang'ono popeza uli mutu wofunikira wa m'malemba motero ndi wofunikira ku chipulumutso chathu. Kodi n’chifukwa chiyani anthu ena amaganiza kuti aliyense angathe kulambira Mulungu m’njira yakeyake komanso ndi luntha lathu, ndipo pamapeto pake, tonse tidzakhala ndi mphoto ya moyo wosatha?
N’cifukwa ciani kumvetsetsa mmene Mulungu alili n’kofunika? Kodi n’chifukwa chiyani kumvetsa kwathu ubale wa Atate ndi Mwana kumakhudza mwayi wathu wopeza moyo wosatha monga ana a Mulungu pa kuukitsidwa kwa olungama?
Yesu akutiuza kuti: “Tsopano moyo wosatha ndi uwu, kuti akadziwe Inu Mulungu woona yekha, ndi Yesu Kristu amene munamtuma. (Yohane 17:3)
Choncho, kudziwa Mulungu kumatanthauza moyo. Nanga bwanji kusamudziwa Mulungu? Ngati chiphunzitso cha Utatu chili chonyenga chochokera m’maphunziro a zaumulungu achikunja ndi kuwakakamiza Akristu kuti aphedwe, monga momwe anachitira mfumu ya Roma Theodosius pambuyo pa 381 C.E., ndiye kuti amene amachikhulupirira sadziwa Mulungu.
Paulo akutiuza kuti:
“Ndithu, n’koyenera kwa Mulungu kubwezera masautso amene akukusautsani, ndi kupereka mpumulo kwa inu amene akuponderezedwa ndi ifenso. Izi zidzachitika pamene Ambuye Yesu adzavumbulutsidwa kuchokera kumwamba pamodzi ndi angelo ake amphamvu m’lawi la moto. kubwezera chilango kwa amene sadziwa Mulungu ndipo osamvera Uthenga Wabwino wa Ambuye wathu Yesu. ( 2 Atesalonika 1:6-8 )
Chabwino, chabwino. Chotero, tonsefe tingavomereze kuti kudziŵa Mulungu n’kofunika kwambiri kuti tim’sangalatse ndi kupeza chiyanjo chake chimene chimatsogolera ku moyo wosatha. Koma ngati mumakhulupirira Utatu ndipo ine sindimakhulupirira, kodi zimenezo sizikutanthauza kuti mmodzi wa ife sadziwa Mulungu? Kodi mmodzi wa ife ali pangozi ya kutaya mphoto ya moyo wosatha pamodzi ndi Yesu mu ufumu wakumwamba? Zingawoneke choncho.
Chabwino, tiyeni tionenso. Tatsimikiza kuti sitingathe kumudziwa Mulungu mwa luntha chabe. Ndipotu iye amabisa zinthu kwa anthu anzeru n’kuziulula kwa anthu onga ana monga mmene taonera pa Mateyu 11:25 . Mulungu watenga ana ndipo, mofanana ndi tate aliyense wachikondi, amagawana maubwenzi apamtima ndi ana ake omwe sagawana ndi alendo. Taonanso mmene iye amaululira zinthu kwa ana ake kudzera mwa mzimu woyera. Mzimu umenewo umatitsogolera m’choonadi chonse. Chotero, ngati tili ndi mzimu, tili ndi choonadi. Ngati tilibe chowonadi, ndiye kuti tilibe Mzimu.
Izi zikutifikitsa ku zimene Yesu anauza mkazi wa ku Samariya kuti:
“Koma ikudza nthawi, ndipo yafika tsopano, imene olambira owona adzalambira Atate mumzimu ndi m’chowonadi; Mulungu ndiye Mzimu, ndipo omlambira Iye ayenera kumlambira mumzimu ndi m’choonadi.” (Ŵelengani Yohane 4:23, 24.)
Chotero, Yehova Mulungu akuyang’ana mtundu winawake wa munthu, amene adzamlambira mumzimu ndi m’chowonadi. Chotero tiyenera kukonda choonadi ndi kutsogozedwa ndi mzimu wa Mulungu m’chowonadi chonse chimene timachifunafuna ndi mtima wonse. Mfungulo yopezera chidziwitso chimenecho, chowonadi chimenecho, si mwa luntha lathu. Ndi kudzera mu chikondi. Ngati mtima wathu uli wodzala ndi chikondi, mzimu ukhoza kutitsogolera. Komabe, ngati tisonkhezeredwa ndi kunyada, mzimu udzatsekereza, ngakhale kutsekeredwa kotheratu.
“Ndikupemphera kuti mwa chuma chake chaulemerero akulimbikitseni ndi mphamvu mwa Mzimu wake mkati mwanu, kuti Khristu akhale m’mitima yanu mwa chikhulupiriro. Ndipo ndikupemphani kuti, ozika mizu ndi okhazikika m’chikondi, mukhale nacho mphamvu, pamodzi ndi oyera mtima onse a Ambuye, kuti muzindikire kukula, ndi utali, ndi utali, ndi kuya, chikondi cha Khristu, ndi kuzindikira chikondi ichi chimene chimaposa chidziwitso. kuti mukadzadzidwe ku muyeso wa chidzalo chonse cha Mulungu. (Ŵelengani Aefeso 3:16-19.)
Zomwe izi zikuyimira ndi zazikulu; si nkhani yaing’ono. Ngati Utatu uli woona, ndiye kuti tiyenera kuuvomereza ngati titi tidzakhale pakati pa olambira Atate mu Mzimu ndi m’choonadi ndiponso ngati titi tidzakhale amene iye amawayanja ndi moyo wosatha. Koma ngati si zoona, tiyenera kukana pa chifukwa chomwecho. Miyoyo yathu yamuyaya yapachikika m’chiyembekezo.
Zomwe tanena kale, zikubwerezabwereza. Ngati Utatu uli vumbulutso lochokera kwa Mulungu, ndiye kuti umboni wokhawo ukupezeka m’Malemba. Ngati mzimu watsogolera anthu ku choonadi ndipo choonadicho n’chakuti Mulungu ndi Utatu, ndiye kuti chimene timafunikira ndi kudalira ndiponso kudzichepetsa ngati ana kuti tiziona Mulungu mmene iye alili, anthu atatu mwa Mulungu mmodzi. Ngakhale kuti maganizo athu ofooka aumunthu sangamvetse mmene Mulungu wautatuyu angakhalire, zimenezo n’zosafunika kwenikweni. Kungakhale kokwanira kuti adziulula yekha kukhala Mulungu wotero, waumulungu wotero, wautatu mwa-mmodzi. Sitiyenera kumvetsetsa momwe izi zimagwirira ntchito, koma kuti zili choncho.
Ndithudi, amene atsogozedwa kale ndi mzimu wa Mulungu ku choonadi ichi tsopano akhoza kutifotokozera m’njira yophweka, njira imene ana ang’ono angamvetsere. Chotero, tisanayang’ane pa umboni wa m’Malemba wogwiritsiridwa ntchito kuchirikiza Utatu, choyamba tiyeni tiupende monga momwe umalongosoledwera ndi awo amene anganene kuti anauululira kwa iwo mwa mzimu woyera wa Mulungu.
Tiyamba ndi Utatu wa Ontological.
“Dikirani kaye,” mungatero. Kodi nchifukwa ninji mukuyika mawu otanthauzira ngati “ontological” patsogolo pa dzina lakuti “Utatu”? Ngati pali Utatu umodzi wokha, n’chifukwa chiyani muyenera kuuyeneretsa? Chabwino, sindikanatero, ngati pangakhale utatu umodzi wokha, koma kwenikweni pali matanthauzo ambiri. Ngati musamala kuyang'ana pa Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, mupeza "'kukonzanso kwanzeru' kwa chiphunzitso cha Utatu, chomwe chimagwiritsa ntchito malingaliro ochokera kuukadaulo wamakono, logic, ndi epistemology" monga "Zolingalira pawekha", "Zitatu- Theories ", "Zinayi Zokha, Zopanda Yekha, ndi Zodzipangira Zosakhazikika", "Mysterianism", ndi "Beyond Coherence". Zinthu zonsezi ndi zotsimikizika kubweretsa malingaliro anzeru ndi luntha losangalala kosatha. Koma ngati mwana, aa, osati kwambiri. Mulimonsemo, sitidzasokonezedwa ndi ziphunzitso zambiri zonsezi. Tiyeni tingomamatira ku ziphunzitso zazikulu ziwiri: Utatu waumulungu ndi Utatu wachuma.
Kotero kachiwiri, tiyamba ndi Utatu wa Ontological.
"Ontology ndi maphunziro afilosofi a chikhalidwe cha munthu. “Ontological Utatu” amalozera ku umunthu kapena mkhalidwe wa chiŵalo chirichonse cha Utatu. M’chilengedwe, m’chenicheni, ndi mikhalidwe, Munthu aliyense wa Utatu ali wofanana. Atate, Mwana, ndi Mzimu Woyera ali ndi umunthu waumulungu womwewo ndipo motero amapanga Utatu wa ontological. Chiphunzitso cha Utatu waumulungu chimanena kuti Anthu atatu onse a Umulungu ali ofanana mu mphamvu, ulemerero, nzeru, ndi zina zotero.” (Kuchokera: gotquestions.org)
Ndithudi, zimenezo zimadzetsa vuto chifukwa chakuti m’Baibulo muli malo ambiri kumene “mphamvu, ulemerero, [ndi] nzeru” za chiŵalo chimodzi cha Utatu—Mwana—zisonyezedwa kukhala wocheperapo kapena wotsikirapo kwa “mphamvuyo; ulemerero, [ndi] nzeru” za chiŵalo china—Atate (osatchulapo kuti palibe chilimbikitso chirichonse cha kulambira mzimu woyera).
Poyesa kuthetsa zimenezo, tili ndi tanthauzo lachiwiri: Utatu wachuma.
“Utatu wa zachuma umakambidwa kaŵirikaŵiri mogwirizana ndi “Utatu wa chiphunzitso chaumulungu,” mawu amene amanena za mkhalidwe wofanana wa Anthu a Utatu. Mawu akuti "utatu wachuma" amagogomezera pa zomwe Mulungu amachita; "Ontological Utatu" amagogomezera kwambiri kuti Mulungu ndi ndani. Kuphatikizidwa pamodzi, mawu awiriwa akupereka chododometsa cha Utatu: Atate, Mwana, ndi Mzimu amagawana chikhalidwe chimodzi, koma ndi Anthu osiyana ndipo ali ndi maudindo osiyanasiyana. Utatu ndi wogwirizana komanso wosiyana.” (Kuchokera: gotquestions.org)
Zonsezi zikufotokozedwa ngati zododometsa. Tanthauzo la zododometsa ndi izi: Mawu owoneka ngati osamveka kapena odzitsutsa kapena malingaliro omwe akafufuzidwa kapena kufotokozedwa akhoza kukhala ozikidwa bwino kapena oona. (Kuchokera: lexico.com)
Njira yokhayo imene moyenerera mungatchule Utatu kukhala chododometsa ndiyo ngati chiphunzitso “chooneka ngati chosamveka” chatsimikiziridwa kukhala chowona. Ngati simungathe kutsimikizira kuti ndi zoona, ndiye kuti si zododometsa, ndi chiphunzitso chopanda pake. Magwero okhawo a umboni wotsimikizira kuti utatu wa ontological/economic ndi woona, ndi Baibulo. Palibe gwero lina.
Kodi CARM, Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, imatsimikizira bwanji kuti chiphunzitsochi ndi chowona?
(Kungokuchenjezani, izi ndi zazitali ndithu, koma tiyeneradi kuziŵerenga zonse kuti tipeze utali wonse, ndi m’lifupi, ndi kuzama kwa lingaliro la Utatu lotere. Ndasiya maumboni a Malemba koma ndachotsa mawu enieniwo mu chidwi cha kufupikitsa, koma mutha kupeza zolemba zonse pogwiritsa ntchito ulalo womwe ndiwuyika mugawo lofotokozera vidiyoyi.
Utatu wa Economic
Monga tafotokozera pamwambapa, Utatu Wachuma umachita ndi momwe anthu atatu mu Umulungu amalumikizirana wina ndi mnzake komanso dziko lapansi. Aliyense ali ndi maudindo osiyanasiyana mu Umulungu ndipo aliyense ali ndi maudindo osiyanasiyana mu ubale ndi dziko lapansi (maudindo ena amalumikizana). Atate-ndi-Mwana ndi ubale wa utatu chifukwa ndi wamuyaya (zambiri pa izi pansipa). Atate anatumiza Mwana (1 Yohane 4:10), Mwana anatsika kuchokera kumwamba osati kudzachita chifuniro chake, koma chifuniro cha Atate (Yohane 6:38). Kuti mupeze vesi limodzi losonyeza kusiyana kwa maudindo, onani 1 Pet. 1:2, “Monga mwa kudziwiratu kwa Mulungu Atate, mwa chiyeretso cha Mzimu, kuti mukamvere Yesu Kristu ndi kuwazidwa ndi mwazi wake,” Inu mukhoza kuwona kuti Atate amadziwiratu. Mwana anakhala munthu nadzipereka yekha nsembe. Mzimu Woyera umayeretsa mpingo. Zimenezo nzosavuta, koma tisanakambirane mowonjezereka, tiyeni tione mavesi ena amene amachirikiza kusiyana kwa maudindo pakati pa anthu atatu a Utatu.
Atate anatumiza Mwana. Mwana sanatumize Atate (Yohane 6:44; 8:18; 10:36; 1 Yohane 4:14)
Yesu anatsika kuchokera kumwamba, osati kudzachita chifuniro chake, koma chifuniro cha Atate. ( Yohane 6:38 )
Yesu anachita ntchito yowombola anthu. Atate sanatero. ( 2 Kor. 5:21; 1 Pet. 2:24 .
Yesu ndiye wobadwa yekha. Atate sali. ( Yohane 3:16 )
Atate anapereka Mwana. Mwana sanapereke Atate kapena Mzimu Woyera. ( Yohane 3:16 )
Atate ndi Mwana amatumiza Mzimu Woyera. Mzimu Woyera samatumiza Atate ndi Mwana. ( Yohane 14:26; 15:26 )
Atate anapereka osankhidwawo kwa Mwana. Lemba silimanena kuti Atate anapereka osankhidwa kwa Mzimu Woyera. ( Yohane 6:39 )
Atate anatisankha ife asanaikidwe maziko a dziko. Palibe chosonyeza kuti Mwana kapena Mzimu Woyera anatisankha. ( Aef. 1:4 )
Atate anatikonzeratu ife kuti tikhale ana aamuna monga mwa cholinga cha chifuniro chake. Izi sizikunenedwa za Mwana kapena Mzimu Woyera. ( Aef. 1:5 )
Tili ndi chiombolo kupyolera mu mwazi wa Yesu, osati mwazi wa Atate kapena Mzimu Woyera. ( Aef. 1:7 )
Tiyeni tifotokoze mwachidule. Tikhoza kuona kuti Atate anatumiza Mwana (Yohane 6:44; 8:18). Mwana anatsika kuchokera kumwamba kuti asachite chifuniro chake (Yohane 6:38). Atate anapatsa Mwana ( Yoh. 3:16 ), amene ali wobadwa yekha ( Yoh. 3:16 ), kuti agwire ntchito yowombola anthu ( 2 CHA KUWOMBOLA Atate ndi Mwana anatumiza Mzimu Woyera. Atate, amene anatisankha ife asanaikidwe maziko a dziko ( Aef. 5:21 ), anatikonzeratu ife ( Aef. 1:2; Aroma 24:1 ), ndipo anapereka osankhidwawo kwa Mwana ( Yoh. 4:1 ).
Si Mwana amene anatumiza Atate. Atate sanatumizidwe kudzachita chifuniro cha Mwana. Mwana sanapereke Atate, ndiponso Atate sanatchedwe wobadwa yekha. Atate sanagwire ntchito yowombola anthu. Mzimu Woyera sanatumize Atate ndi Mwana. Sizinanene kuti Mwana kapena Mzimu Woyera unatisankha, kutikonzeratu, ndi kutipereka kwa Atate.
Komanso, Atate amamutcha Yesu Mwana (Yohane 9:35), osati mwanjira ina. Yesu akutchedwa Mwana wa Munthu ( Mat. 24:27 ); Atate sali. Yesu akutchedwa Mwana wa Mulungu ( Marko 1:1; Luka 1:35 ); Atate satchedwa Mwana wa Mulungu. Yesu adzakhala kudzanja lamanja la Mulungu ( Marko 14:62; Machitidwe 7:56 ); Atate sakhala pa dzanja lamanja la Mwana. Atate anasankha Mwana kukhala wolowa nyumba wa zinthu zonse ( Aheb. 1:1 ) osati mosiyana. Atate anakhazikitsa nthawi ya kubwezeretsedwa kwa ufumu wa Israeli (Machitidwe 1: 7), Mwana sanatero. Mzimu Woyera amapereka mphatso ku mpingo ( 1 Akor. 12:8-11 ) ndipo amabala zipatso ( Agalatiya 5:22-23 ). Izi sizikunenedwa za Atate ndi Mwana.
Kotero, momveka bwino, tikuwona kusiyana kwa ntchito ndi maudindo. Atate amatumiza, kutsogolera, ndi kukonzeratu. Mwana amachita chifuniro cha Atate, amakhala thupi, ndipo amakwaniritsa chiwombolo. Mzimu Woyera amakhala ndi kuyeretsa Mpingo.
Tsopano kumbukirani kuti utatu wa ontological, umene Utatu wa zachuma umachirikiza, umanena kuti “Milungu itatu yonse ndi yofanana mu mphamvu, ulemerero, nzeru, ndi zina zotero.” Et cetera imayimira china chilichonse. Chotero, poŵerenga zonse pamwambapa, kodi tikupeza kuti kufanana mu mphamvu, ulemerero, nzeru, chidziwitso, ulamuliro, kapena china chirichonse? Ngati muŵerenga mavesi onse a m’Baibulo amenewo popanda lingaliro lirilonse, popanda aliyense kukuuzani pasadakhale tanthauzo lake, kodi mungakhulupirire kuti Mulungu akudziulula kwa inu mwa mzimu woyera monga Utatu? Monga anthu atatu osiyana kupanga munthu mmodzi?
Kodi mlembi wa nkhani ya Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry anena chiyani pa zonsezi?
Popanda kusiyana kumeneku, sipangakhale kusiyana kulikonse pakati pa anthu a Utatu ndipo ngati palibe kusiyanitsa, palibe Utatu.
Ha? Ndikayang'ana kusiyanitsa konseko kutsimikizira kuti palibe Utatu, chifukwa akutsimikizira kuti atatuwo sali ofanana nkomwe, koma wolemba nkhaniyi akupereka umboni wonse wotsutsa Utatu pamutu pake ndikuti umboni umatsimikizira Utatu pambuyo pake.
Tangoganizani ngati apolisi abwera pakhomo panu usiku wina n’kunena kuti, “Mnzako wapezeka ataphedwa. Tapeza mfuti yanu pamalo pomwe ili ndi zala zanu. Tapeza DNA yanu pansi pa zikhadabo za wozunzidwayo. Tili ndi a Mboni atatu amene anakuwonani mukulowa m’nyumbamo patatsala mphindi zochepa kuti mfuti imveke ndipo anakuonani mukuthamanga pambuyo pake. Tapezanso magazi ake pa zovala zanu. Pomaliza, asanamwalire, analemba dzina lanu m’magazi pansi. Umboni wonsewu ukutsimikizira mosapita m'mbali kuti simunamuphe. M'malo mwake, pakadapanda umboniwu, mukanakhala tikukayikira kwambiri."
Ndikudziwa. Izi ndizovuta, komabe izi ndizomwe zili munkhani ya CARM iyi. Tikuyembekezeredwa kukhulupirira kuti umboni wonse wa m’Baibulo wotsutsa Utatu, suutsutsa mpang’ono pomwe. Ndipotu n’zosiyana kwambiri. Kodi akatswiriwa ataya luso lawo loganiza bwino, kapena amangoganiza kuti tonsefe ndi opusa. Mukudziwa, nthawi zina palibe mawu ...
Zingawonekere kuti cholinga cha chiphunzitso cha Utatu cha zachuma ndicho kuyesa kuzungulira phiri la umboni wa m’malemba umene umasonyeza kuti ziŵalo zitatu za utatu sizili ofanana m’njira iriyonse. Utatu wazachuma umayesa kusintha malingaliro kuchokera ku chikhalidwe cha Atate, Mwana ndi mzimu woyera kupita ku maudindo omwe aliyense amachita.
Ichi ndi chinyengo chokongola. Ndiroleni ndikuwonetseni momwe zimagwirira ntchito. Ndikusewerani kanema. Sindinathe kudziwa komwe vidiyoyi idachokera, koma mwachiwonekere ndi gawo la mkangano pakati pa munthu wosakhulupirira kuti kuli Mulungu ndi Mkhristu wokhulupirira chilengedwe. Wokhulupirira kuti kuli Mulungu amafunsa zomwe amakhulupirira kuti ndi funso lachidziwitso, koma Mkhristu amamutsekera bwino. Yankho lake likusonyeza chidziŵitso chenicheni cha mmene Mulungu alili. Koma Mkristu ameneyo mosakaikira amakhulupirira Utatu. Chodabwitsa n’chakuti yankho lake likutsutsa Utatu. Kenako, pomalizira pake, iye akuyamba kuganiza molakwika. Tiyeni timve:
Reinhold Schlieter: Ndasokonekera. Pokhala wosasinthasintha mwanzeru komanso kukhala munthu woona mtima kwambiri, ndikutsimikiza mungandiuze kumene Mulungu anachokera. Ndipo kuwonjezera apo, mutangondiuza kumene Mulungu amachokera, chonde yesani kufotokozera momwe mungaganizire kuti mphamvu yauzimu ikhoza kukhala ndi mphamvu pa chilengedwe chakuthupi kuti chizilenge.
Dr. Kent Hovind: Chabwino, funso lanu, “Kodi Mulungu anachokera kuti?” amalingalira kuti kulingalira kwanu kolakwa—mwachiwonekere, kumasonyeza—kuti kulingalira kwanu kwa mulungu wolakwa. Chifukwa chakuti Mulungu wa m’Baibulo sakhudzidwa ndi nthaŵi, malo, kapena zinthu. Ngati Iye amakhudzidwa ndi nthawi, danga, kapena nkhani, iye si Mulungu. Nthawi, danga ndi nkhani ndi zomwe timazitcha kupitiriza. Onse ayenera kukhalapo nthawi yomweyo. Chifukwa panali nkhani, koma palibe danga, mungayike kuti? Ngati panali nkhani ndi danga, koma palibe nthawi, mungayike liti? Simungakhale ndi nthawi, malo, kapena nkhani paokha. Ayenera kukhalapo nthawi imodzi. Baibulo limayankha zimenezo m’mawu khumi: “Pachiyambi [pali nthaŵi], Mulungu analenga kumwamba [pali mlengalenga], ndi dziko lapansi [pamenepo].
Kotero muli ndi nthawi, danga, nkhani yopangidwa; utatu wa utatu pamenepo; mukudziwa kuti nthawi yapita, yapano, yamtsogolo; danga ndi kutalika, kutalika, m’lifupi; nkhani ndi olimba, madzi, gasi. Muli ndi utatu wa utatu wolengedwa nthawi yomweyo, ndipo Mulungu amene adawalenga ayenera kukhala kunja kwa iwo. Ngati iye aletsedwa ndi nthawi, Iye si Mulungu.
Mulungu amene analenga kompyuta imeneyi mulibe kompyuta. Sakuthamangira m'menemo akusintha manambala pa skrini, chabwino? Mulungu amene analenga chilengedwechi ali kunja kwa chilengedwe chonse. Iye ali pamwamba pa icho, kupitirira icho, mmenemo, kupyolera mu icho. Iye sakhudzidwa nazo. Kotero, chifukwa…ndipo lingaliro lakuti mphamvu ya uzimu singakhale ndi mphamvu iliyonse pa thupi lanyama…chabwino ndiye, ine ndikuganiza inu muyenera kundifotokozera ine zinthu monga maganizo ndi chikondi ndi udani ndi kaduka ndi kaduka ndi kulingalira. Ndikutanthauza ngati ubongo wanu wangokhala mndandanda wamankhwala omwe adangopangidwa mwangozi kwazaka mabiliyoni ambiri, kodi padziko lapansi mungadalire bwanji malingaliro anu ndi malingaliro omwe mukuganiza, chabwino?
Ndiye, ah…funso lanu: “Kodi Mulungu anachokera kuti?” akuganiza mulungu wochepa, ndiye vuto lanu. Mulungu amene ndimamulambira alibe malire ndi nthawi, malo, kapena zinthu. Ngati ine ndikanakhoza kukwanira Mulungu wopandamalire mu ubongo wanga wa mapaundi atatu, Iye sakanakhala woyenera kupembedzedwa, ndiko ndithudi. Kotero ndiye Mulungu amene ndimamupembedza. Zikomo.
Ndikuvomereza kuti Mulungu alibe malire ndipo sangakhudzidwe ndi chilengedwe. Pa mfundo imeneyi, ine ndikugwirizana ndi munthu uyu. Koma amalephera kuona mmene mawu ake amakhudzira chikhulupiriro chake. Kodi ndimotani mmene Yesu yemwe ali Mulungu mogwirizana ndi chiphunzitso cha Utatu angayambukiridwe ndi chilengedwe? Mulungu sangakhale ndi malire ndi nthawi. Mulungu safunikira kudya. Mulungu sangakhomedwe pa mtanda. Mulungu sangaphedwe. Komabe, adzatichititsa kukhulupirira kuti Yesu ndi Mulungu.
Kotero apa muli ndi kulongosola kodabwitsa kwa nzeru zopanda malire ndi mphamvu ndi chikhalidwe cha Mulungu zomwe sizikugwirizana ndi chiphunzitso cha Utatu. Koma kodi munaona mmene anayeserabe kuloŵetsamo Utatu m’mtsutsano wake pamene anagwira mawu Genesis 1:1 ? Amatchula nthawi, malo ndi zinthu monga Utatu. M’mawu ena, chilengedwe chonse, chilengedwe chonse, chiri Utatu. Kenako amagawa mbali iliyonse ya chilengedwechi kukhala utatu wake. Nthawi ndi yakale, yapano, ndi yamtsogolo; danga lili ndi kutalika, m’lifupi, ndi kuya; zinthu zimakhalapo ngati zolimba, zamadzimadzi, kapena gasi. Utatu wa Utatu, iye anautcha iwo.
Inu simungakhoze kungotcha chinachake chimene chiripo mu zigawo zitatu, monga kanthu, utatu. (Kwenikweni, nkhani ingakhaleponso ngati plasma, yomwe ili gawo lachinayi, koma tisasokoneze nkhaniyi.) Mfundo ndi yakuti tikuwona njira yodziwika bwino pano. Kulakwitsa koyenera kwa kufanana kwabodza. Mwa kusewera mofulumira ndi momasuka ndi tanthauzo la mawu akuti, utatu, iye akuyesera kutipangitsa ife kuvomereza lingalirolo pa mawu ake. Tikatero, iye angachigwiritse ntchito pa tanthauzo lenileni limene akufuna kufotokoza.
Kodi ndimavomereza kuti Yehova, Yesu, ndi mzimu woyera ali ndi maudindo osiyanasiyana? Inde. Ndi zimenezotu, Utatu wachuma. Ayi, simukutero.
Kodi mukuvomereza kuti m’banja muli bambo, mayi ndi mwana amene ali ndi maudindo osiyanasiyana? Inde. Kodi mungawafotokoze monga banja? Inde. Koma zimenezi sizikufanana ndi Utatu. Bambo ndi banja? Mayi ndi banja? Kodi mwana, banja? Ayi. Koma kodi Atate ndi Mulungu? Inde, akutero wokhulupirira Utatu. Kodi Mzimu Woyera ndi Mulungu? Inde, kachiwiri. Kodi Mwana, Mulungu? Inde.
Mukuona, Utatu wa zachuma uli njira chabe yoyesera kutenga umboni umene umatsutsa Utatu wa sayansi ya sayansi, ndi kuufotokoza mobisa. Koma m’chenicheni, ambiri a awo amene amagwiritsira ntchito Utatu wa zachuma kufotokoza umboni wotsutsa Utatu wa sayansi ya sayansi ya zakuthambo amakhulupirirabe tanthauzo la sayansi la anthu atatu osiyana mu munthu mmodzi, amene onse ali ofanana m’zinthu zonse. Ichi ndi matsenga amatsenga. Dzanja limodzi limakusokonezani pomwe lina likuchita chinyengo. Yang'anani apa: M'dzanja langa lamanzere, ndikugwira utatu wachuma. Chilichonse chimene Baibulo limanena pa ntchito zosiyanasiyana za Atate, Mwana, ndi mzimu woyera n’zoona. Kodi inu mukuvomereza izo? Inde. Tiyeni tizichitcha Utatu, chabwino? Chabwino. Tsopano mu dzanja lamanja, “abracadabra,” tili ndi utatu weniweni. Koma umatchedwabe Utatu, sichoncho? Ndipo inu mumavomereza Utatu, sichoncho? O! Inde. Chabwino, ndamva.
Tsopano kunena chilungamo, si aliyense amene ali Okhulupirira Utatu amene amavomereza utatu waumulungu. Ambiri masiku ano apanga matanthauzo awoawo. Koma amagwiritsabe ntchito mawu akuti Utatu. Ndi mfundo yofunika kwambiri. Ndilo mfungulo yofotokozera chikakamizo chimene anthu ayenera kuvomereza Utatu.
Kwa anthu ambiri, tanthauzo lake lilibe kanthu kwenikweni. Zinali zofunikira. Kunena zoona, panali nthawi ina imene ankakumanga pamtengo n’kuwotchedwa wamoyo ngati sunagwirizane nazo. Koma masiku ano, osati kwambiri. Mutha kubwera ndi tanthauzo lanu ndipo zili bwino. Malingana ngati mugwiritsa ntchito mawu akuti, Utatu. Zili ngati mawu achinsinsi kuti mulowe ku kalabu yapadera.
Fanizo limene ndangogwiritsa ntchito ponena za banja limagwirizana kwenikweni ndi matanthauzo ena a Utatu amene afalitsidwa masiku ano.
Mwana m’banja akamwalira ndiye kuti sakhalanso banja. Chotsalira ndi banja. Ndinafunsa munthu wokhulupirira Utatu zimene zinachitika Yesu atamwalira kwa masiku atatu. Yankho lake linali lakuti Mulungu anali wakufa kwa masiku atatuwo.
Umenewo si Utatu, koma chofunikanso n’chakuti liwu lenilenilo limagwiritsiridwa ntchito. Chifukwa chiyani?
Ndili ndi chiphunzitso, koma ndisanachifotokoze, ndinene kuti ndi mpambo wa mavidiyo awa, sindikuyesera kukhutiritsa okhulupirira Utatu kuti akulakwa. Kukangana kumeneku kwakhala kukuchitika kwa zaka zoposa 15, ndipo sindidzapambana. Yesu adzaugonjetsa akadzabwera. Ndimayesetsa kuthandiza amene akudzuka m’gulu la Mboni za Yehova kuti asagwere m’chiphunzitso china chonyenga. Sindikufuna kuti adumphe kuchokera m'poto yokazinga ya zamulungu zabodza za JW kulowa pamoto wa ziphunzitso zazikulu zachikhristu.
Ndikudziwa kuti kufuna kukhala m’gulu lina la Akhristu kungakhale kwamphamvu kwambiri. Ena angalingalire kuti ngati afunikira kupindika pang’ono, ngati afunikira kuvomereza chiphunzitso china chonyenga, ndiwo mtengo umene iwo ali ofunitsitsa kulipira. Chitsenderezo cha mabwenzi ndi kufunika kokhala nawo ndi zomwe zinasonkhezera Akristu a m’zaka za zana loyamba, osachepera ena a iwo, kuyesa kuti Akunja adulidwe.
Iwo amene afuna kukopa anthu mwa thupi, akukakamizani inu kuti mudulidwe. Chifukwa chokha chimene amachitira zimenezi n’kupewa kuzunzidwa chifukwa cha mtanda wa Khristu. (Agalatiya 6:12)
Ndikukhulupirira kuti ndi mfundo yomveka kugwiritsa ntchito izi pazomwe tili pano ndikuwerenganso vesilo motere:
Awo amene amafuna kukopa anthu mwakuthupi akukukakamizani kukhulupirira kuti Mulungu ali Utatu. Chifukwa chokha chimene amachitira zimenezi n’kupewa kuzunzidwa chifukwa cha mtanda wa Khristu. (Agalatiya 6:12)
Kufunika kokhala m’gulu kumatanthauza kuti munthuyo akali m’misampha ndi kuphunzitsidwa ndi Bungwe la Mboni za Yehova. “Ndipitanso kuti?” ndiye funso lomwe limafunsidwa kwambiri ndi onse omwe amayamba kudzuka ndi zabodza ndi chinyengo cha JW.org. Ndikudziwa wa Mboni za Yehova wina yemwe akuyesera kubwezeretsedwa ngakhale akudziwa ziphunzitso zonse zabodza komanso chinyengo cha bungwe la UN komanso kubisa nkhanza za ana. Malingaliro ake ndi akuti ndicho chabwino koposa pa zipembedzo zonse zonyenga. Kufunika kwake kukhala m’chipembedzo kwaphimba maganizo ake kuti osankhidwa a Mulungu, ana a Mulungu, ali a Khristu okha. Sitilinso a amuna.
Chifukwa chake asadzitamandire munthu; Pakuti zinthu zonse nzanu, angakhale Paulo, kapena Apolo, kapena Kefa, kapena dziko lapansi, kapena moyo, kapena imfa, kapena zinthu zilipo, kapena zilinkudza; zinthu zonse nzanu, ndipo muli a Kristu; ndipo Khristu ali wa Mulungu. ( 1 Akorinto 3:21-23 )
Ndithudi, okhulupirira Utatu akamva zimenezi adzanena kuti ali ndi umboni. Iwo adzanena kuti umboni wa Utatu uli m’Baibulo lonse. Ali ndi "mawu otsimikizira" ambiri. Kuyambira pano kupita mtsogolo, ndikhala ndikuwunika maumboni awa amodzi ndi amodzi kuti ndiwone ngati akupereka umboni wa m'malemba wa chiphunzitsocho, kapena ngati zonse ndi utsi ndi magalasi.
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N’chifukwa chiyani mukuganiza kuti ndine “pazaumulungu, pafupifupi ndidakali mboni ya Yehova”? [Ralf] “Mumayembekezera kuwatsogolera ku matchalitchi kapena gulu liti?” Ndimakhulupirira kuti chipembedzo ndi msampha komanso chinyengo kotero kuti sindikulozera anthu kutchalitchi china chilichonse. Ndikufuna kuti aphunzire kulambira Mulungu mumzimu ndi m’choonadi mopanda chiphunzitso cha anthu. [Ralf] “Yankho lake ndi Mzimu Woyera. Mzimu unatumizidwa ndi Yesu ndi Atate kuti atitsogolere m’choonadi chonse”. Zimenezo n’zoona, koma sizingagwiritsiridwe ntchito ngati mtsutso kutsimikizira mfundoyo... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikuganiza kuti mukugwiritsabe zamulungu za Watchtower chifukwa mukuwoneka kuti mukugwirizana nazo pokana kuti Yesu ndi Waumulungu, mukukhulupirira kuti timakondedwa ndi Mulungu chifukwa cha zomwe timachita (chikondi), ndikukana umunthu wa Mzimu Woyera. Ndikuwona kuti mupanga kanema wofotokozeranso kumvetsetsa kwanu kwa Mzimu. Ndikuyembekezera zimenezo. Sindikudziwa kuti “munthu” ndi malongosoledwe abwino a mamembala a Utatu. Ndikuganiza kuti anthu azaka zapakati analibe chilichonse chabwino choti agwiritse ntchito. Ngati mpingo/gulu lachipembedzo lokhalo mudakhalapo membala... Werengani zambiri "
Zosangalatsa. Ndapeza kuti pafupifupi chiphunzitso chilichonse cha ma JWs ndi chabodza. Kukana Utatu sikuli kwa a Mboni za Yehova okha, chifukwa choti wina savomereza sichingakhale chifukwa chomveka chowajambula ndi burashi yamulungu ya JW. Zodabwitsa ndizakuti, sindikukana kuti Yesu ndi Waumulungu. Ndikungokana tanthauzo lanu laumulungu lomwe limamupanga kukhala mulungu wamphamvuyonse. Koma iye ndi mulungu. Ralf, ponena za chikhulupiriro chako pa zimene ndimakhulupirira ponena za chipembedzo ndi zimene ndikuchita polambira Mulungu, ukuwoneka kuti wachitapo kanthu mwakufulumira kuganiza. Inu... Werengani zambiri "
Ndipepese ngati ndaganizira kwambiri. Monga ndidanenera poyankha kwanga koyambirira ku positi yanu, ndikudziwa kuti sindikumvetsa kapena kutanthauzira molakwika zina zomwe mukunena. Ndikungopita ndi zomwe mawu anu akuwoneka ngati akunena. Pitirizani kundiwongolera. Koma kodi sizikugwirizana ndi chikhulupiriro cha JW kuti Yesu ndi Mulungu osati Mulungu Wamphamvuyonse? Kotero chimenecho chikanakhala mgwirizano. Ndinkadziwa kuti kukana Utatu si kwapadera. Arian anali kuchita kalekale. Eliya ndi Elisa ankagwira ntchito mofanana ndi atumwi a mpingo woyamba. Mulungu anachita zozizwitsa kupyolera mwa iwo... Werengani zambiri "
Sindinasiye zikhulupiriro zonse zomwe ma JWs ali nazo. Kumeneko kungakhale kutaya mwanayo ndi madzi osamba. Komabe, kukhulupirira zina mwazinthu zomwe amakhulupirira sikundipangitsa kukhala wogwirizana ndi chiphunzitso cha JW kuposa momwe zikhulupiriro zanga zomwe zimagwirizana ndi ziphunzitso za Baptist kapena Katolika zimandimanga ku zikhulupilirozo. Ponena za kuukitsa akufa kwa Eliya ndi Elisa, ndinali kugwiritsira ntchito zimenezo kutsutsa mkangano wanu wakuti: “Ngati Mulungu ali Utatu, nchifukwa ninji ntchito zosiyanasiyana zaumulungu sizikanachitidwa ndi anthu osiyanasiyana? Ndipo komabe, Yesu mu Bukhu lonse la Yohane akunena kuti Iye akuchita ntchito yaumulungu yokha... Werengani zambiri "
Mwa njira, pamene Yesu anafa ndi kukhala m’manda kwa masiku atatu usana ndi usiku, kodi Mulungu anafa?
Inde, koma ndikuganiza kuti kusiyana kwathu pano kuli ngati kusiyana kwathu pa umulungu wa Yesu. Kumvetsetsa kosiyana pa "zaumulungu", ndipo mwinanso kusiyana kwa "imfa". Kodi mumakhulupirira kuti kulibeko (kumvetsetsa kwa JW), kuti muyambirenso moyo ndikuukitsidwa? Chifukwa ndimakhulupirira kuti ndikafa, ndimakhalabe ndi moyo mumzimu. Chiyembekezo cha kusamuka mopanda msokonezo kuchoka ku moyo wolimbana uno kupita ku kukhalapo kwa Yesu kumwamba ndicho chimene chimachotsa mbola ya imfa. Koma imfa si yachibadwa ndipo ndi chotulukapo cha uchimo, ndipo ikadali chochitika chomvetsa chisoni ndi choipa monga momwe misozi ya Yesu kunja kwa manda a Lazaro ikusonyezera.... Werengani zambiri "
Simufunikanso kukhulupirira kuti mukupitiriza “kukhala ndi moyo mumzimu” kuti mbola ichotsedwe pa imfa. Popeza kuti akufa sadziwa chilichonse, nthawi ya pakati pa imfa ya munthu ndi chiukiriro idzakhala nthawi yomweyo m’lingaliro lake, ngakhale kuti papita zaka zikwi zambiri.
Yesu anali munthu weniweni, osati mulungu. Anasiya umulungu wake molingana ndi Afilipi 2:5,6, XNUMX
Hi Derek,
Tetragrammaton, YHWH, ikuimira dzina la Mulungu la zilembo zinayi limene limapezeka pafupifupi nthaŵi 7000 m’mipukutu yoyambirira ya Malemba Achihebri. Matembenuzidwe a dzina Lachihebrilo amasiyanasiyana. Matembenuzidwe aŵiri ofala kwambiri ndi Yahweh ndi Yehova m’Chingelezi. Koma awa ndi matembenuzidwe kapena matembenuzidwe monga momwe zingakhalire, osati dzina lenileni monga momwe poyamba analilembera ndi kutchulidwa m’Chihebri.
Mukabwera ku misonkhano yathu Lamlungu mudzakumana ndi anthu ena ku UK omwe mungayanjane nawo. Nthawi zamisonkhano ndi maulalo a Zoom akupezeka pa ulalo uwu: https://beroeans.net/events/
Eric, ndikungodabwa, Frankie, mwandilimbikitsa kwambiri… Pitirizani ndi ntchito yabwino. Eric, Munati SIMUDZABWEZERA mavoti okweza komanso otsika ndipo tsambali linali lowunikira pa jw.org POKHA… Eric, Satana akufuna kuti akuseteni, koma mukabwerako, limbikitsani “banja” lanu. Dziwani chifukwa chake anakuchotserani mumpingo komanso chifukwa chake munakhazikitsa webusaitiyi kuti muthandize mboni kudzuka. Mkazi wanu wokondedwa akanakhala kuti akadali moyo, akanakuuzani chiyani? Ndikungodabwa, ndinakopeka... Werengani zambiri "
James Mansoor, ndemanga yanu apa ndi imodzi mwazolemba zowongolera komanso zowongolera zomwe ndaziwona kwa nthawi yayitali, mukudulira "zingwe za azeze" zonse zomwe zikupezeka kwa inu kuti muyese kuwongolera sitimayi kuti ipite njira yomwe ingakusangalatseni! Kodi mumamasuka kulankhula za Yehova ndi Satana? Serious??? Webusayitiyi ndi yoti tigwire ntchito ya Yehova ZIMENE ZINGAKHALE!! Osati malo oti munthu aliyense akhale mtsogoleri ndikuchita ulamuliro wake kapena kulamulidwa ndi kusonkhezeredwa kuchita zofuna za wina! Kodi mumamvetsetsa bwino za "Babele" kapena tanthauzo lake... Werengani zambiri "
Zikomo chifukwa chakudzudzula kwanu James komanso chifukwa chomveka bwino, BobPfohl.
Ndikudziwa kuti zimakuvutitsani kwambiri kukhala ndi mavoti otsika, koma tidakambirana kangapo ndipo ndasankha kuti ma pluses amaposa zoyipa.
Ndamva kuti simukonda kuvoteredwa pansi pomwe ovota sapereka chifukwa, ndipo ndikumvetsetsa kuti zitha kukhala zokhumudwitsa kwambiri. Ndimalandira mavoti ambiri otsika panjira yanga ya YouTube popanda kupeza chifukwa. Koma amatumikira cholinga. Amatithandiza kudziŵa mmene tingayankhile zimene timakamba. Tiyenera kukhala otetezedwa mokwanira kuti tithane ndi kukanidwa, kaya kuli kosayenera kapena ayi.
Olamulira a WT sangalole kuvota. Izo zokha zikuwoneka ngati kulungamitsidwa kulola izo.
PS: Ndangovotera ndemanga yanu. ?
Sekani
Kukambitsirana kwa Utatu ndi zikhulupiriro ndi malingaliro oweruza omwe amatsatira. Kukadali kukambirana kosatha komwe sikudzatha. Kodi n’zotheka kuti okhulupirira utatu aphonye: Atate yhwh, Yesu amene anabwera m’dzina la yhwh ndi Mthandizi amene Yesu amene anabwera m’dzina la atate yhwh analonjeza? Kodi n’zotheka kuti amene satsatira chiphunzitso cha Utatu adzaphonya Atate yhwh, Yesu amene anabwera m’dzina la yhwh ndi Mthandizi amene Yesu amene anabwera m’dzina la atate analonjeza? Kaya ndife ophunzira kapena osaphunzira, ndikukhulupirira... Werengani zambiri "
Kuima m'choonadi sikungonena motsimikiza kapena kuweruza ena. Palibe chilichonse m’mauthenga Abwino chosonyeza kuti Yesu ankalolera ziphunzitso zonyenga, ndiponso palibe amene amaonetsa mtima wosangalala akamakumana ndi aphunzitsi onyenga. Okhulupirira Utatu ndi amene amalimbikitsa ziphunzitso zina zabodza monga mzimu wosafa ndi moto wa helo adzayesa kutichititsa “kunyowetsa lilime lawo ndi dontho la madzi” mwa kutipempha kuti tiwalole, kunena kuti zonsezo ndi nkhani chabe ya maganizo—monga ngati. munalibe chowonadi chovuta m'Malemba kapena m'moyo. Atate akufunafuna olambira... Werengani zambiri "
Wow 111 ndemanga za nkhani imene idzayankhidwa ndi Yesu Kristu mwiniyo pamene adzabwera ndi kukhala pampando wake wachifumu waulemerero ndi kuyamba kudzipatula. Okhulupirira Utatu ku si Okhulupirira Utatu… Ndinkaganiza kuti tsamba ili ndi lowunikira pa jw.org.
Mfundo yabwino. Anali wowunikira pa JW.org, koma ndikuganiza kuti ndi nthawi yoti ndiganizirenso za dzinalo popeza utumiki wanga wakula. Zikomo pondidziwitsa izi.
Utumiki wanu wakuladi, m’bale Eric. Chonde pitilizani ntchito yodabwitsa kwambiri yomwe mukuchita!
chofunika kwambiri ndikulola kuyenda kwaulele kwa Mzimu wa Mulungu kuchitika ndikupewa kukhazikitsa malamulo ndikukhala atsogoleri a gulu. chitsanzo chomwe ndachiwonacho ndichachilichonse, nthawi yomwe gulu lipangika anthu amafuna kulowa, ndipo cholinga cha bungwe mtsogoleri amasankhidwa, kusankhidwa kapena kudzidzoza yekha, paudindo umenewo, ndiyeno kusunga malamulo ndi utsogoleri wa gulu. kulengedwa ndi kuyesa kusungitsa bata, nkhanza potsirizira pake zimayamba chifukwa chakuti mumkhalidwe wathu wopanda ungwiro palibe aliyense wa ife amene angalamulire ndi kusunga utsogoleri umenewo! ndichifukwa chake mtsogoleri wathu ali ndipo ayenera nthawi zonse... Werengani zambiri "
James Mansoor, ngati muyenera kuyembekezera kuti Yesu akuuzeni zoona za chiphunzitsochi, ndikukuuzani kuti mudikire mu "Chikhristu cha Orthodox" mpaka mutapeza yankho! Zomwe zimangowulula zomwe mumakhulupirira za chiphunzitsochi, ndipo ndikuganiza kuti mtima wanu wonse wachita chipongwe nacho? ( Luka 6:43-45 ) 43 “Palibe mtengo wabwino umene ubala zipatso zovunda, ndiponso palibe mtengo wovunda umene upatsa zipatso zabwino. 44 Pakuti mtengo uliwonse udziwika ndi chipatso chake. Mwachitsanzo, anthu satchera nkhuyu paminga, kapena kudulira mphesa paminga. 45 Munthu wabwino amatulutsa zabwino kuchokera mu zabwino... Werengani zambiri "
ndikungodabwa, mogwirizana ndi ndemanga yanu tingaone kuti Kaini (wolimbikitsidwa ndi makolo ake) analingalira kutchulidwa kwapadera kwa “mbewu ya mkazi” monga cholowa chake, ichi chinalolera ku khalidwe lake ndi imfa ya Abele ndi kuyesa koyambirira kaamba ka “mbewu ya mkazi”. Satana kuti ayese kulepheretsa ulosi umenewu kukwaniritsidwa! (Nditha kuyankhula zambiri za izi koma ndizokwanira pakadali pano)
Zikomo, Eric, chifukwa chotenga mutu wa Utatu. Ndimakonda kwambiri mutu wakuti: Kodi Chiphunzitso cha Utatu Chinaperekedwa kwa Mulungu Kapena Kuvumbulutsidwa ndi Mdyerekezi. Chiphunzitsochi chimagawanitsa Akhristu kwambiri. Ndipo zimenezi n’zodziwikiratu kwa ine chifukwa otsatira a Khristu ndi ogwirizana komanso ndi ogwirizana, choncho sagawanikana pa ziphunzitso zoyambirira za Mulungu. Ndikakambirana ndi munthu amene amakana moyo wa Yesu asanabadwe padziko lapansi n’kunena kuti Logosi ndi maganizo a Mulungu, sindimaona kuti Khristu ndi wogwirizana ndi munthu ameneyu. Komanso, sindimva umodzi woterowo... Werengani zambiri "
Limenelo ndi lingaliro losangalatsa kwambiri. Zikomo pogawana.
Ndikungodabwa,
Zabwino zonse mzanga. Zabwino zonse?
Ndikungodabwa,
Kukwatiwa ndi atsekwe akale ngati ife, titha kukhala ndi ulusi umodzi kapena ziwiri. Chonde nonse pali mawu olimbikitsa omwe nonse mungapereke?
Ndikungodabwa, tulutsani nkhaniyi momwe ndikufuna kugawana ndi ena mu mpingo wathu komanso kunja.
Thanks anzanga.
Moni Eric,
Ndikungoganiza ngati mungalembe nkhani yachidule yolimbikitsa abale ena a ku Ukraine amene ndawapempha kuti aone webusaitiyi… Mkulu wina amene ndikudziwa kuti anasamukira kumeneko anati maso ake atsegulidwa ndipo akundithokoza.
Ndikukhulupirira kuti phunziro la Utatu likadali pano kuti tipitirire pomwe tidasiyira.
Mukuganiza bwanji?
Nthawi zonse ndimakonda mawu akuti, "Yesani kumvetsetsa Utatu ndipo mudzataya malingaliro - yesani kukana, ndipo mudzataya moyo wanu."
chiphunzitso cha Utatu n’chimake chausatana chomangidwira kupangitsa anthu kutalikirana ndi kudziŵa Mulungu wathu mlingo wothekera, chofanana ndi chiphunzitso cha chisinthiko chimene chiyenera kuyamikiridwa kokha ndi anzeru a dziko loipa la Satanali. kumapangitsa kukhala kosatheka kwa munthu kukhala paubwenzi wabwino ndi Mulungu kapena mwana wake. kutsogolo kwake ndi "chipwirikiti ndi chisokonezo"! Komabe ndikumvetsetsa momwe mutuwu umakokera ngati maginito onse omwe ali ndi mtima ku chiphunzitsochi ndikuchitsatira mwachimbulimbuli, amakhala maziko apakati pazikhulupiliro za anthuwa, motero sangathe kutero.... Werengani zambiri "
kuganiza kwabwino "kolakwika", ngati tikumbukira malingaliro a Ayuda omwe adagwa mu kupembedza konyenga mwachitsanzo motsogozedwa ndi Yezebeli, taganizirani za nkhani za omwe amalambira milungu yonyengayi?
ndiyeno mmene Yehova ndi kupatsa mphamvu zopindulitsa zake kuchita nawo! amene aphunzitsidwadi ku kulambira konyenga ali ndi njira yovuta yotulukira mumsampha umenewo!
Chabwino, a JW
Hi Ken. Ndikuwona pano kukambitsirana kwa kukhalapo kwa Yesu ku Sheol pakati pa imfa yake pamtanda ndi kuukitsidwa kwake. Ndikufuna kupereka malingaliro anga pa nkhani yomwe imakambidwa nthawi zambiri ndikukumbukira 1 Akorinto 13:12 nthawi yomweyo. Nkhani yonse ingabuke pa 1 Petro 3:18-19 : “Pakuti Kristunso adamva zowawa kamodzi chifukwa cha machimo, wolungama m’malo mwa osalungama, kuti akatifikitse kwa Mulungu, kuphedwa m’thupi, koma kuukitsidwa mumzimu. , m’mene anapita nalalikira kwa mizimu imene inali m’ndende,” [ESV] Tiyeni tione kutsatizana kwa nthawi.... Werengani zambiri "
Wokondedwa Frankie - zikomo chifukwa cha yankho lanu pafunso la masiku atatu a Yesu mu hade. Ndikuganiza kuti zachoka pamutu chifukwa chake ndikupepesa kwa Eric chifukwa cha izi. Mukunena mu No 3, kuti mukudziwa abale omwe amakhulupirira kuti kunali Milungu iwiri kapena Uwiri. Malinga ndi Michael S Heiser, katswiri wamaphunziro a Bayibulo, Ayuda a kachisi wachiwiri kuphatikiza Paulo ndi olemba NT amadziwa kapena amakhulupirira kuti kumwamba kuli mphamvu ziwiri. Awiri a Yehova pa Gen 1:19. Komanso ngati mutafunsa Ayuda a kachisi wachiwiri chifukwa chake kuipa konse padziko lapansi, malinga ndi Heiser, poyamba anganene chifukwa... Werengani zambiri "
Kulingalira kwabwino kwenikweni, Kungodabwa. Zikomo pogawana.
Eric, Chakumapeto kwa nkhani yanu, munati “Kodi chinachitika n’chiyani Yesu atamwalira kwa masiku atatu?” Nthaŵi zonse ndinkadzifunsa kuti ndi liti pamene Yesu “analalikira kwa mizimu imene inali m’ndende”? 1 Petro 3. Ndinapeza nkhaniyi pa intaneti yotchedwa "Zimene Akhristu Akufuna Kudziwa". Kodi Yesu Anapita Kuti Pambuyo pa Imfa Yake Pamtanda? Yesu anaphedwa “m’thupi koma anaukitsidwa mumzimu” kutanthauza kuti imfa sinamugwire. Iye analibe uchimo ndipo imfa ndiyo mphotho ya uchimo (Aroma 6:23)... Werengani zambiri "
ndikungodabwa, sizinali zonena zanga, ndinanena kuti zidachokera ku nkhani yomwe ndinapeza pa intaneti yotchedwa "Zomwe Akhristu Akufuna Kudziwa". Nthaŵi zonse ndinkadabwa pamene Yesu analalikira kwa mizimu imene inali m’ndende, yomwe ndi Ana a Mulungu. Gen 6. Ndikudziwa kuti pali malingaliro osiyanasiyana. Ken
Moni Ken, kumvetsetsa kwanga ndikuti Yesu analalikira kwa mizimu yomwe inali m'ndende masiku 40 pakati pa kuuka kwake ndi kukwera kwake. Lemba la 1 Petulo 3:18, 19 tingalimvetse kuti linangochitika nthawi yomweyo kapena zimene zinachitika patatha masiku atatu. Nthawi sinatchulidwe. Yesu ananena momveka bwino kuti adzakhala wakufa kwa masiku atatu. Lemba la Chivumbulutso 1:18 limanena kuti iye anali wakufa. Mulungu sangafe, choncho Yesu sangakhale Mulungu. Mtsutso umene nkhaniyo imapanga umachokera pa lingaliro. Limanena kuti mzimu wake unalibe ndi moyo koma palibe umboni uliwonse... Werengani zambiri "
Eric - Kodi zilibe kanthu kuti anthu amakhulupirira Utatu kapena ayi? Bwanji ngati amakhulupirira kuti Mulungu woona ndi YHWH ndi kuti Yesu ndiye mpulumutsi wawo? Kaya ndi a Mormon, a JW kapena chilichonse, ndithudi MULUNGU amadziwa zomwe zili m'mitima mwawo! Mfumu Davide, analakwitsa zinthu zingati, komabe ankadziwa ndiponso kukhulupirira kuti YHWH – YEHOVA – YAHWEH ndiye Mulungu woona. Pali nkhani yabwino yolembedwa ndi Michael S Heiser yonena za Namani wakhate wotchulidwa ndi Yesu yemwe anali wakunja wokhulupirira Yehova, yemwe adafunsa Elisa ngati zinali bwino.... Werengani zambiri "
Ndiye kodi ma JWs 'okhulupirika', kwenikweni akhristu ena onse 'onama' omwe ali m'boti lomwelo ndi zikhulupiriro zawo? Nanga bwanji ngati tonse titavomereza kuti tili ndi ‘choonadi’ pa imodzi mwa nkhani zimenezi koma zoona zake n’zakuti tilibe? Nanga bwanji za anthu amene anakhalako Chikatolika chisanayambe ndipo kumvetsa kokha kunali NGATI mumadziwa Chilatini? Ndi Mulungu yekha amene anganene motsimikiza. Ambiri onse (osatengera chipembedzo) amatsatira zomwe “anaphunzitsidwa kuyambira ukhanda” ndipo sangathe kuwona chowonadi ngakhale angafunike. Izi sizikutanthauza kuti sitiyenera kupitiriza kukumba choonadi koma tingathe... Werengani zambiri "
Mfundo yabwino Rudy, ngati tikonda Mulungu kuposa zinthu zina zonse ndiye kuti tidzavomereza “choonadi” monga momwe chilili, ndipo chifukwa chakuti kuwonetseredwa kotheratu kwa chowonadi sikudzakhalako kufikira pambuyo pa Ufumu wa Mulungu, tiyenera kukhala ofunitsitsa kusintha ndi kugwirizanitsa. maganizo athu kwa Mulungu pamene avumbulutsidwa mwangwiro kwa ife. “Kukhala m’chipembedzo n’koopsa chifukwa cha “Ganizo la Gulu” ndi chikhumbo chathu chofuna kukondweretsa mamembala a gulu kuposa Mulungu mwiniyo.
Ndikungodabwa ndikuganiza kuti ndikudziwa liti Beroean Pickets aphunzira Choonadi, padzakhala pamene Eric adzasiya kupanga makanema ndipo tsamba la BP lizimiririka chifukwa chowonadi chidzakumasulani - pamakangano. -Ken
Ken pamene mukunena izi “Ndikungodabwa ndikuganiza kuti ndikudziwa pamene Beroean Pickets adzakhala ataphunzira Choonadi” Mawu amenewa akusonyeza zambiri za maganizo anu. Choyamba mumati, "Kungodabwa" ndikutsatiridwa ndi chigamulo cholimba kwambiri cha zomwe mukuganiza kuti ndi gulu pamene mukuti: "Mukudziwa pamene Beroean Pickets adzakhala ataphunzira Choonadi"? Kodi mukunena kuti “chowonadi” chilipo pagulu pokhapokha ngati alola kuti malingaliro onse otsutsana aganizidwe ndi kukambidwa ndi gulu lonse monga gawo? Umu ndimomwe "gulu limaganizira" zomanga za satana" zimanyengerera ndikutsitsa... Werengani zambiri "
BobPfohl - Zonse pamwambapa. Zikomo chifukwa cha kudekha kwanu. Ndaphunzira zambiri m'masiku angapo apitawa - ndikufunirani Zabwino Zonse. Zikomo Eric ndaphunzira zambiri kwa inu - MULUNGU Akudalitseni - Ken
Ndikungodabwa & Eric, - ndikungodabwa kuti simukuyenera kupepesa, ndikugwirizana ndi gawo la nkhani yomwe ili patsamba lino (https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/does-the-bible-tell-us -komwe-Yesu-anali-masiku-atatu-pakati-imfa-ndi-kuuka kwace/) cifukwa nthawi zonse ndinali kuganizila kuti mwanjira ina Yesu atamva zowawa za imfa monga munthu, anapitira kulalikira. kwa “mizimu imene ili m’ndende” imene a JW imagwirizana ndi “angelo amene anasiya udindo wawo woyambirira “Yuda 6. Sindikhulupirira kuti Yesu ndi MULUNGU, koma ndi Mwana wapadera wa Mulungu. Kodi timalenga ana athu kapena timawabala. Nkhaniyo inali yomveka kwa ine... Werengani zambiri "
Moni Ken,
Ndisanayankhe, ndiyenera kudziwa kumvetsetsa kwanu pankhaniyi. Tiyiwale za nthawi. Kodi ziribe kanthu kaya iye anali wakufa kwa masiku atatu, kapena tsiku limodzi, kapena ola limodzi, kapena miniti imodzi, kapena sekondi imodzi? Funso ndilakuti, kodi mukuvomereza kuti adamwalira? Osati thupi lake lokha ndi mzimu wake kukhalabe wamoyo ndi wozindikira. Kodi munthu amene anali Yesu ndiye anafa kwa kamphindi?
Wawa Eric, Kwa ine ndizofunikira, Ezekieli 18:20 "Moyo womwe ukuchimwa ...", Yesu analibe uchimo. Yohane 2:19 “Pasulani kachisi uyu ndipo ndidzamuwutsanso m’masiku atatu.” Mwina anali kunena za thupi lake lanyama kapena thupi lake lauzimu limene Akristu angakhale mbali yake. Ngati iye anali kunena za thupi lake lanyama ndiye kuti ayenera kuti anali wamoyo monga Cholengedwa chauzimu kuti auutse mkati mwa masiku atatuwo. Monga munthu ndimavomereza kuti Yesu anafera chipulumutso chathu, apo ayi tilibe chiyembekezo. Zimakhudzanso nthawi... Werengani zambiri "
Zokambirana za “Yesu ku gahena” zikuwoneka ngati zopanda mutu koma ndine wokondwa kuti zidabwera. Posachedwapa ndinayenera kuyang'ana mutuwo ine ndekha nditakambirana ndi amormon. Nthaŵi zonse ndinkaganiza kuti mizimu imene inali m’ndende inali angelo amene anabwera padziko lapansi m’masiku a Nowa. Sindikutsimikiza kuti kufotokozerako sikukuwoneka koyenera chifukwa mafotokozedwe ofanana a angelo mu unyolo / zomangira / mdima mu 2 Pete ndi Yuda. Zikuoneka zachilendo kwa ine kuti Yesu apite kwa angelo omangidwawa kuti angowasisita nkhope zawo, titero kunena kwake. Ine... Werengani zambiri "
Ponena za kumasulira kwa 1 Petro 3:19 monga “mizimu yomwe ili m’ndende TSOPANO”, cheke cha Zida Zophunzirira Baibulo pa intaneti sichinasonyeze ngakhale Baibulo limodzi loti “tsopano” loikidwa m’mabaibulo alionse monga mukuganizira… , alipo ochepa. Komanso, ngati mukufuna kufotokozera bwino kuposa momwe ndingathere, yang'anani ndemanga pa vesi lomwe likufunsidwa. Mfundo yake ndi yakuti mizimu imene inali m’ndende inali mizimu pa nthawi imene Petulo anali moyo, koma poyamba inali anthu amene Yesu anawalalikira kudzera mwa mzimu wake.... Werengani zambiri "
Kodi ndi kuti kumene Baibulo limanena kuti anthu amakhala mizimu, kotero kuti Yesu ‘anawalalikira’ mwa njira imeneyi poyamba paja? Yesu analalikira kwa iwo, mumkhalidwe wake wauzimu, kupyolera mwa Nowa, pamene iwo anali anthu amoyo. Pakuti nkwabwino kumva zowawa chifukwa cha kuchita zabwino, ngati chifuniro cha Mulungu chitatero, kusiyana ndi kuchita zoipa. Nowa anamva zowawa chifukwa cha chilungamo, anthu amene anawalalikira anazunzika chifukwa cha chosalungama. Tsopano mizimu yawo ikuyembekezera chiweruzo - 'kundende'. Dziwani kuti sindikupanga lingaliro lililonse loti mizimu yawo ikudziwa kapena kuvutika kapena china chilichonse. Kukhala... Werengani zambiri "
Apanso, JA, sindinapange lingaliro ili. Ngati mukufuna kuyang'ana mozama pamutuwu, ingofufuzani ndemanga zina za lemba la biblehub. Sindikudziwa chimene mukuganiza kuti Mawu a Mulungu anali kuchita asanaululidwe monga Yesu koma lingaliro lakuti anali wokangalika m’zochita za Mulungu ndi munthu siliri losamveka m’chipangano chatsopano. ( Heb 11:26; Yuda 5; 1 Kor 10:4; Yohane 12:40-41 ) Pankhani ya moyo ndi mzimu, mukuwoneka kuti mumagwirizanitsa ziŵirizi. Ndi mzimu... Werengani zambiri "
JA anali typo. Ndikutanthauza JW- ndikungodabwa
NotSure mwayika malingaliro ambiri ndikufufuza mu ndemanga zanu pano. koma kupita ku vuto lochita kafukufuku ndi kulingalira uku, ndikulemba mu ndemanga yanu, ndiyeno kutsiriza ndemanga yanu ndi ndemanga: "Sindikufuna kuyika mfundo, ndipo sindikufuna kupitiriza zokambiranazi. .” Ndikupeza zotsutsana zingapo m'mawu anu, motsutsana ndi mfundo zamalemba zomwe ndikudziwa. mukapanga mawu omwe ali pamwambawa ndikumaliza ndi "sindikufuna kupitiliza kukambirana" mukupanga chizindikiro chomwe sichingasinthidwe ndipo... Werengani zambiri "
Uyenera kuti unaphonya mbali yomwe kudabwa kwandiwuza kuti sakufuna kupitiriza zokambiranazo. Ndizovuta kumvetsetsa zomwe ndimalemba chifukwa chongodabwa ndikuchotsa zolemba zake zonse
Ken Yesu analalikira kwa mizimu imene inali m’ndende ataukitsidwa. Mbali yomaliza ya 1 huu “kuphedwa m’thupi.”). “Kuphedwa” kumatanthauza kupachikidwa kwake pamtanda (chochitika), ndipo “m’thupi” akutanthauza mmene anaphedweramo (monga thupi ndi mafupa, munthu). “Kukhala ndi moyo” kutanthauza kuuka kwake (chochitika), ndipo “mumzimu” ndi... Werengani zambiri "
rajeshsony Ndi ulemu, sindimamva Chigriki, ndipo sindimakhoza bwino ndi Chingerezi, kotero ndiyenera kudalira kumasulira kwa Chingerezi. Yesu anali wopanda uchimo. Yesu analawa imfa monga munthu kuti tipulumuke. Pansi pa chilamulo cha MULUNGU Yesu sanafunikire kukhala m’manda chifukwa anali wopanda uchimo. Pa Yohane 2:19 Yesu akuti, “Pasulani kachisi uyu, ndipo ine ndidzamuwutsanso m’masiku atatu”. Kwa ine mwina anali kunena za thupi lake lanyama kapena thupi lake lauzimu. Kenako ophunzira ake anazindikira kuti anali kunena za thupi lake. Onani kuti ndi Yesu amene amaukitsa... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikadalumphira muno, ndizoona kuti Yesu anali wopanda uchimo ndipo sakanafa ndi uchimo. Komabe, iye monga munthu ndipo kotero si wosakhoza kufa. Akhoza kufa, kapena makamaka, akhoza kuphedwa. Lamulo likafuna kuuka kwa akufa chifukwa imfa yake ikanakhala yakupha ndipo Mulungu anayenera kubwezera. Ngati Mulungu akanasankha kumusiya m’manda asanamuukitse, kukanakhala kuti Mulungu wamunyadira, si choncho? Conco, tidziŵa kuti iye anaukitsidwa monga mzimu cifukwa lemba la 1 anaukitsidwa monga mzimu.... Werengani zambiri "
Eric ukuganiza bwanji pa Yohane 2:19?
Ndimaona kuti ndizosangalatsa kuti okhulupirira Utatu amakhala ndi mawu ophatikizika pomwe akuyenera komanso ophiphiritsa pomwe sichoncho.
Akunena kuti adzaukitsa thupi, osati kuukitsa thupi kapena kudziukitsa yekha. Baibulo limanena momveka bwino kuti iye ndi mzimu wopatsa moyo. Chotero ngati mzimu udzutsa thupi izo sizingatanthauze ndendende zomwe ukunena. Pamene Yesu akuwonekera m’chipinda chokhomedwa, anali thupi. Iwo adamukhudza. Iye sanali mzimu. Kodi tingafotokoze bwanji zimenezo popanda kupanga nthanthi yakuthengo? Kodi tingayang'ane kwina m'malemba kaamba ka mizimu yomwe ingadziwonetsere yokha m'thupi?
Eric Ndilibe vuto ndi okhulupirira utatu. Ndikuganiza kuti pali zambiri zomwe anthu samazimvetsetsa. Ngati ena amakhulupirira utatu kuti ndine ndani kuti ndiwaweruze, nanga bwanji ngati ali olondola. Pali ndime zambiri mu NT zomwe zikuwoneka kuti zikuwonetsa kuti Yesu ndi MULUNGU. Ndime ya INE NDINE. Yesu pamaso pa Kayafa amene anasindikiza tsogolo lake! Kayafa ankadziwa kuti Yesu anali kunena kuti iye ndi MULUNGU. Sindinakhalepo wokhulupirira utatu, mwina ndi a JW omwe adandiyimbira. Ndikuganiza kuti zilibe ntchito bola nditayesetsa kutsatira Yesu... Werengani zambiri "
j ndikudabwa kuti ndikukumbukira bwino lomwe m'Baibulo lachi Greek la New World Translation, limamasulirabe kuti INE NDINE. Koma musanene ma JW olankhula Chingerezi. Nanga bwanji Kayafa podziwa kuti Yesu anali kunena kuti iye ndi MULUNGU, chifukwa munthu yekhayo amene anali wokwera mitambo anali YHWH kapena monga a JW’s amanenera kuti Galeta la Yehova lomwe iwo amakumana ndi zovuta zambiri kupitiriza naye – Ken
XNUMX. Ndimakumbukirabe kuti Yesu anadziukitsa yekha, ndinati Yesu anaukitsa thupi lake kotero kuti ayenera kuti anali Munthu wauzimu mkati mwa masiku atatuwo. Pa intaneti ngati mugwiritsa ntchito Google Yesu anaukitsa Yesu, ambiri ndi okhulupirira Utatu. Ndichikhulupiliro changa kuti Yesu adayendera “mizimu yomwe ili mndende” mkati mwa masiku atatuwo. -Ken
Ndili wokondwa kuwona wina pabwaloli wamva za Heiser, amapanga zambiri. Kupyolera mwa iye ndinayamba kukhulupirira Utatu.
Sindine wokonda munthu woteroyo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUkhWBKCuXc Chakumapeto kwa vidiyoyi ananena kuti ichi n’chofunika kwambiri ndipo ndi pamene Yesu ali pamaso pa Kayafa ( Mateyu 26:64 ) ndipo Yesu anati “udzaona Mwana. wa Munthu wokhala kudzanja lamanja la mphamvu, ndi kudza pa mitambo ya kumwamba.” Kayafa ankadziwa kuti YHWH yekha ndi amene amakwera mitambo yakumwamba ndiponso chifukwa chimene anakwiyira chonchi.” Kodi mukuona kulakwa kwa maganizo ake? Sakani pa “khalani* kudzanja lamanja” ndipo mwamsanga mupeza kuti palibe paliponse m’Malemba... Werengani zambiri "
Eric - Mateyu 19:26 - Ken
Mukutanthauza kuti MULUNGU ALI ndi malire mwanjira ina?
5 mikate + 2 Nsomba = 1000 ya mikate + 1000's 0f Nsomba
J akudabwa a Mboni ankandiuza mukamaloza munthu chala, nthawi zonse pamakhala zala zitatu zomwe zikulozera kumbuyo!
Ken, ZOCHITIKA?
Sindinagwirizane nanu zambiri, Kungodabwa. Ndimapeza izi nthawi zonse patsamba la YouTube. Ndikuganiza kuti akuganiza kuti ndi ndemanga yofanana ndi kutsika kwa mic. Ichi ndi chitsanzo china cha kuyerekezera mawu mokweza mawu, chomwe kwenikweni chimaipitsa uthenga wa uthenga wabwino pamaso pa osakhulupirira. Taonani okhulupirira kuti chilengedwe chonse anaumirira kuti masiku 6 a chilengedwe anali masiku 24 monga chitsanzo chimodzi chokha. Pano, imalola anthu kutsutsa Baibulo monga losagwirizana ndi lotsutsana. Ngati zinthu zonse n’zotheka, ndiye kuti n’zotheka kuti Mulungu aname, komabe Baibulo limanena kuti n’zotheka... Werengani zambiri "
Eric Ndikuvomereza kuti n’kosatheka kuti MULUNGU aname, koma n’zosatheka kuti MULUNGU agwiritse ntchito mzimu winawake kunama—kuti akwaniritse zolinga zake 1Mafumu 22:22.- Ken
JW - Kodi MULUNGU sanalole Satana kuyesa Yobu? Kodi ndingalembe bwanji ndemanga popanda kudziwonetsa ndekha? -Ken
Ndikuganiza kuti mwaphonya mfundo ya Just Wondering.
J ndikudabwa ndikupepesa moona mtima - ndikupempha chikhululuko - Ken
Pepani kuti mukumva choncho Jw, koma kodi muli ndi Baibulo limodzi lokha? Ndinali kungobwereza zimene Baibulo limanena. Sindimadana ndi kubweretsanso dzina la Heiser koma sindinkafuna kuti avutike chifukwa cha kutsutsidwa kwanu. Sindinali kuyesa kuyipitsa dzina la MULUNGU.
Pepani, Ken, koma chimenecho ndi chowiringula cholakwika chifukwa zomasulira zingapo zilipo pa intaneti: biblehub.com mwachitsanzo.
Eric sindikudziwa kuthekera kodabwitsa pakompyuta. Sindinali wonyoza. Ndinamva kuchokera m'mawu omwe ali pamwambawa kuti anali wokalamba. Chifukwa cha njira iyi yolankhulirana ndizosavuta kusamvetsetsa zolinga za anthu. Anthu ankatha kulemba zilembo zazikulu chifukwa chosaona kapena angakonde kulemba zilembo zazikulu ndipo angaganize kuti akukuwa! Kodi cholinga cha zinthu zokonda ndi zosakonda izi mukuganiza kuti zimathandiza bwanji? Ndikuyembekeza kuti sindinanene cholakwika chilichonse. -Ken
Ken, nchifukwa chiyani ukuganiza kuti ukufunikira kuti uteteze Heiser" zikuwoneka kwa ine ngati wachita ntchito yabwino yomanga kutchuka kwake ndi dzina lake mu gulu la "Akhristu"!
Pamene amuna afunikira ziyeneretso zochokera ku “dongosolo la Maphunziro a Satana” ndi kudzipanga iwo eni phata la chisamaliro kusiyapo Yesu, kodi mungatsatire bwanji munthu woteroyo?
Chofunika kwambiri n’chifukwa chiyani aliyense wofuna kulambira Mulungu wamkulu Yehova AMAFUNA KUKHALA NDI MPHUNZITSI WA ANTHU kusiyapo Kristu?
Ken, kodi umakhulupirira mu utatu?
Kodi iyi si imodzi mwa ziwonetsero za Eric ad hominem? Yohane 10:33 . Ayuda ankaganiza kuti Yesu ankanena kuti ndi Mulungu.
Ngati muyang’ana pa Yohane 10:33 m’mwamba m’mwamba mwa mizere, muona kuti tsankho la Utatu likupezekanso. Kutsogolo kwa liwu Lachigiriki lotanthauza Mulungu, palibe mfotokozi wodziwikiratu. Palibe Myuda amene akanaganiza kuti Yesu anali kunena kuti ndi Yehova. Ho Theos, Mulungu. Ngakhale lero tili ndi zilankhulo zomwe zilibe mawu osadziwika. Pali malamulo pomasulira Chigiriki kuti atsogolere womasulira kotero kuti amaika mawu osadziŵika pamene atchulidwa ndi kuchotsa mfotokozi pamene afunidwa. Sitingatembenuzire Yohane 1:1 m’Chichewa kuti, “Pachiyambi panali... Werengani zambiri "
Pamapeto pake, palinso mavesi ena omwe ali ndi vuto. 10:33 Kodi Khristu anatani? 35/36 “S'il est vrai qu'elle a appelé dieux à qui la parole de Dieu a été adressée et si l'Ecriture ne peut pas être annulée, 36 comment pouvez-vous dire à celui que le Père et conco envoyé dans le monde: 'Tu blasphèmes', et cela parce que j'ai affirmé: 'Je SUIS LE FILS DE DIEU ?" Khristu adati : 1 – XNUMX – l n’aurait pas été faux de dire qu’il était un dieu en raison de son autorité... Werengani zambiri "
Fani - Ayuda anali kunena kuti Yesu anali kunena kuti ndi Mulungu, osati ine. Funso ndilakuti, kodi Yesu ndi gawo la Utatu? M’chipangano chakale muli malemba amene akusonyeza kuti n’zotheka. Sindikutsutsa kuti izi ndizotheka. Ndili ndi malingaliro omasuka ku malingaliro a anthu ena. Ndikudziwa kuti Yesu ndi Mwana wa Mulungu. Thupi la Khristu limapangidwa ndi ziwalo zambiri. Kodi ndikumvetsa bwanji zimenezo? Mumamva bwanji zimenezo? Ndikungofunafuna chowonadi. Zikomo chifukwa cha ndemanga yanu... Werengani zambiri "
Kodi iwo anakhulupiriradi zimenezo kapena anangokhumudwa kuti Yesu anali chiwopsezo ku mphamvu zawo zimene anakulitsa ndi gulu lawo la amuna?
Aliyense amene akuvomereza ndi kunena zabodza ndiye kuti ndiwabodza. Osati ndendende. Zimatengera ngati munthuyo akudziwa kuti zomwe amavomereza (ndi zomwe amavomereza) ndi zabodza. Kunena zabodza sikumakupangitsani kukhala wabodza. Kunena zabodza pomwe ukudziwa kuti ndi zabodza kumakupangitsa kukhala wabodza. “Bodza” limatanthauzidwa ndi Merriam-Webster ngati kunena kuti chinthu chodziwika kapena chokhulupiriridwa ndi wokamba nkhani kapena wolemba kuti sichinali chowona ndi cholinga chonyenga. Dikishonale ya Google imatanthauzira bodza ngati mawu onama mwadala. Dictionary.com imatanthauzira bodza ngati mawu abodza opangidwa ndi... Werengani zambiri "
Zomwe Heiser anali kunena ndikuti ndizotheka kuti MULUNGU akhale pamalo ochulukirapo kapena pamunthu nthawi ina pali malemba mu OT omwe alibe tanthauzo nkomwe. Ngati wina sakugwirizana ndi zomwe Eric anali nazo, ndiye kuti ayenera kukhala wabodza.
Tsopano chimenecho ndi chitsanzo chabwino cha kuukira kwa ad hominem. Simunatsimikizire mfundo yanu konse. Mwangopanga chiganizo - munagawana malingaliro. Kodi tsopano mukunena kuti Heiser sakhulupirira Utatu?
Eric Ndimagwirizana nawe "kuti atumiki a Satana adzivala okha zovala zachilungamo" ndipo ndikuvomereza kuti Michael Heiser ndi Utatu - Ken
Ine ndithudi ndikuwona cholakwika m'malingaliro anu. Choyamba tiyenera kuyang'ana pa nkhani yotakata ya mawu oti "wokwera pamtambo" kufupi ndi kum'mawa kwakale. Ugarit anali mnansi wapafupi wakumpoto wa Israyeli, ndipo amagawana mawu ndi mafanizo ambiri. M’malemba a Chiugariti, mulungu Baala amatchedwa “wokwera mitambo.” Mafotokozedwewo anadzakhala dzina laulemu la Baala, amene anthu a m’madera onse a kum’maŵa wakale ankamuona kuti ndi mulungu waudindo. Kwa anthu akale a ku Mediterranean monse, Aisrayeli kapena ayi, “wokwera mitambo” anali mulungu—mkhalidwe wake monga... Werengani zambiri "
Moni mkuwa, ngati mfundo yomwe mukuyesera kunena ndikuti Aisrayeli sanali okhulupirira Utatu monga amanenera Utatu, ndiye ndikuvomereza kwathunthu. Baibulo limaphunzitsa kuti YHWH ndiye Mulungu wamkulu, wamphamvu kuposa mphamvu zonse, gwero la zamoyo zonse. Koma silimakana kukhalapo kwa milungu ina kaya ikhale yosalungama kapena yolungama, yabodza kapena yoona. Vuto limene anthu ambiri amakumana nalo poyesa kumvetsa Mulungu ndi la digiri. Iwo akuyesera kuyika Mulungu mkati mwa bokosi lomwelo iwo amaika milungu ina yonse. Iwo akuyesera kumuyeza Mulungu ndi muyeso womwewo umene iwo anaugwiritsa ntchito... Werengani zambiri "
Moni Meleti Vivlon, Ayi sindikunena za kuchuluka kwaumulungu, ngakhale ndikugwirizana nanu kuti Aisrayeli akale sanali okhulupirira Mulungu mmodzi, koma anali pafupi kwambiri ndi zikhulupiriro zawo. Ndakufunsani funso ili: N’chifukwa chiyani Ayuda ankangokhalira kumuponya miyala Yesu chifukwa chonyoza Mulungu chifukwa chodzinenera kuti ndi Mwana wa Mulungu? Chinali chifukwa chakuti dzina laudindo lakuti “Mwana wa Mulungu” lotchulidwa m’nthaŵi ya Yesu linali dzina laulemu lofala la mesiya wa Davide amene anali kudza, ndipo motero linawonedwa kukhala munthu wachiŵiri wa Yehova. M’malamulo achiisrayeli mtundu wokhawo wamwano umene unali chilango cha imfa... Werengani zambiri "
Moni Cooper, sindiri wotsimikiza kuti mfundo yanu ndi chiyani, koma mwina nditha kukuthandizani pokuwonetsa zomwe mukufuna kuti ndiyambe ndi kumasulira kolondola kwa Yohane 10. kukumana kwa Yesu ndi atsogoleri achipembedzo: “31 Apanso Ayuda anatola miyala kuti amugende. 32 Yesu anawayankha kuti: “Ndakuonetsani ntchito zambiri zabwino zochokera kwa Atate. Chifukwa cha ntchito iti mwa izo mundiponya miyala? 33 Ayuda anamuyankha kuti: “Sitikukuponya miyala chifukwa cha ntchito yabwino, koma chifukwa cha mwano. za... Werengani zambiri "
Eric Mukuchita zotheka kuti mulekanitse Mau ndi MULUNGU, Thupi la Khristu lili ndi mamembala ambiri oyenera kutchedwa Akhristu, Umulungu uli ndi mamembala atatu. onse oyenerera kutchedwa ndi Dzina la Mulungu. Ndiko kumvetsa kwanga. - Mawu akuti Utatu amachotsa anthu nthawi yomweyo chifukwa chogwirizana ndi Tchalitchi cha Katolika ngati mudakhala a JW. -Ken
Ndikungofuna kukumbutsa aliyense kuti ngati mutsimikizira kuti Yesu ndi Mulungu, SINALI kutsimikizira Utatu. Mwatsimikizira, ngakhale pang'ono, mwatsimikizira zapawiri. Anthu amaoneka kuti amaiwala izi nthawi zonse. Amayang'ana kwambiri kutsimikizira umulungu wa Khristu, ndipo zonsezi chifukwa amaganiza kuti izi zidzatsimikizira chiphunzitso cha Utatu. Koma siziyenera kukhala choncho. Ndipo izi zimapitanso kwa omwe ali mbali inayo; ngati wina atsimikizira umulungu wa Kristu kwa inu, simukakamizidwa kuvomereza Utatu. Anthu ambiri amaganiza kuti ndi choncho,... Werengani zambiri "
rajeshsony Ndi ulemu waukulu ndinangoti ndikumvetsetsa kwanga. Ndimakonda kusautcha Utatu tsopano koma ndinu omasuka kuchitcha chomwe mukufuna. Palibe kukayikira za Umulungu wa Khristu. Koma ndikuganiza kuti pali malingaliro olakwika ambiri omwe akuyandama zomwe zimapangitsa kuti zikhale zovuta kumvetsetsa kuti "utatu" ndi chiyani. Nanga bwanji ngati Yesu si Wamphamvuyonse, kodi iye anadzinenerapo kuti ndi iyeyo? Koma iye akadali ndi ufulu wokhala ndi Dzina Lauzimu. Ponena za Mzimu Woyera. Ngati uli Mzimu Woyera wa MULUNGU ndiye... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikuvomereza kuti Mzimu ndi gawo la Mulungu, koma kulingalira komwe mudagwiritsa ntchito kuti mufike pamfundoyi sikumveka. Munthu akhoza kukhala ndi chinthu mosavuta popanda kukhala gawo lalikulu la chikhalidwe chawo. Mwachitsanzo, ndili ndi galu… Anthu angatchule galu wa Rajesh. Koma galu ameneyo si wachibadwa ku chikhalidwe changa, ngakhale ndili naye. Koma, kachiwiri, ndikuvomereza kuti Mzimu wa Mulungu ndi gawo la Iye.
Khalani ndi tsiku labwino. 🙂
rajeshsony - Ndimaganiza kuti tikukambirana mwanzeru apa, mukunena kuti mwina muthupi la Khristu mungakhale agalu otchedwa Akhristu? - Chidziwitso changa ndichakuti mamembala Atatu a Umulungu onse ali ndi chikhalidwe chofanana chifukwa chake onse ali oyenera kutchedwa Dzina la Mulungu. Yesu ndi wapadera, Mzimu Woyera ndi wapadera, ndipo YHWH ndi wapadera malinga ndi Heiser ndi akatswiri ena ambiri tanthauzo la monogenesis osati "wobadwa yekha" - Ken
Ndikadayenera kunena kuti monogenes osati monogenesis. Ndikupemphani kuti mukhululukire. Chipangano Chatsopano chisanayambe komanso mkati mwa nthawi ya Chipangano Chatsopano, liwuli limatanthauza “chapadera” kapena “chokhacho.” Komabe, mochititsa chidwi kwambiri, ndiponso popanda chilolezo, tanthauzo lake linasinthidwa kukhala “wobadwa yekha” m’zaka mazana oyambirira achikristu. Kupotozedwa kwa liwulo mu Vulgate Yachilatini ndi kupitiriza kwa zolakwika za mu King James Version ya 1611 AD kumapangitsa kuwerenga kosangalatsa. Zitha kuwoneka kuti tili nazo... Werengani zambiri "
Chotero mungatisonkhezere kukhulupirira kuti YHWH, kufuna kuthandiza ana ake aumunthu ndi kusankha fanizo la unansi wa atate mwana wamwamuna ndiyeno n’kumatcha mwana wake wamwamuna mmodzi yekha, angayembekezere ana ake kunyalanyaza chenicheni chakuti mwana aliyense wabadwa?
Eric Sizili kwa ine kuti ukhulupirire chilichonse. Ndinu amene munaponya zovuta kuti wina afotokoze kapena kuyesa kufotokoza Utatu. Mukudziwa nokha sikophweka kufotokoza. Ndikungotsatira zomwe anthu ena akunena. Sindinali wokhulupirira Utatu. Ndinangokumbukira kuti Michael Heiser adanenapo za Mphamvu ziwiri Kumwamba zaka zapitazo. Sizinandivutitsepo konse za Utatu. Monga Cooper sindikuganiza kuti kumvetsetsa Utatu ndikofunikira kuti munthu apulumuke. Ndikuganiza kuti Chisomo cha Mulungu ndi chikondi ndizofunika kwambiri! Yesu anachita chiyani... Werengani zambiri "
Munalemba kuti: “Sindikuganiza kuti kumvetsa Utatu n’kofunika kuti munthu apulumuke.”
Kodi munganene kuti tingakhulupirire chimodzi mwa ziphunzitso zotsatirazi ndi kupulumutsidwa kukhala ndi Khristu monga mafumu ndi ansembe mu ufumu wakumwamba?
Utatu?
Chiariani?
Socinianism?
Gnosticism?
Eric Ndine wapadziko lapansi, kuyambira pomwe ndinawona gulugufe wanga woyamba ndi duwa ndidakonda chilengedwe cha Mulungu. Ndakhala wochimwa mpaka pano. Sindimamvetsa zinthu zakumwamba. Ngati MULUNGU angandilole kuti ndiuke kwa akufa padziko lapansi kudzera mu ntchito ya Yesu pa mtanda ndiye kuti zandikwanira. - Zabwino Kwambiri - Ken.
Ken funso losavuta, ndi zingati za "Christian Orthodoxy" zomwe mumalembetsa? Ken? Ken? KEN? Zoseketsa momwe onse amagwiritsira ntchito zomwe ndimazitcha "NPR Radio/Chikondi" njira yoyesera kusokoneza chiphunzitsochi pakhosi pa anthu ndiyeno akakankhidwa pamutuwo "amawuluka"? chimene ndimapeza ndi kudzichepetsa kwachipongwe, ndi kusamasuka kotheratu kuphunzira chirichonse chowona! anthu awa ochokera ku Orthodoxy akuwoneka kuti akungocheza poganiza kuti atha kusokoneza Mkhristu aliyense amene watuluka mu JW Organisation, amalephera kuzindikira kuti ambiri tsopano akutsogozedwa ndi mzimu woyera.... Werengani zambiri "
Zabwino kukhala nanu nafe, BobPfohl
Hi Ken Zikuwoneka kuti ambiri omwe sali m'gululi akadali ndi chikhulupiriro chokhwima. Yohane 3:16 akufotokoza mwachidule za chipulumutso chathu mu kukhulupirira mwa Khristu. Ndithudi mawu oti kukhulupirira amatanthauza zambiri kuposa kungokhulupirira kuti iye analiko. Tiyenera kukhulupirira ndi kuyamikira nsembe yake, yomwe imaphatikizapo kuchita zinthu mogwirizana ndi zimene Yesu anatilangiza. Ndikuwona Meleti Vivlon adayamba kutchula zikhulupiliro ndikufunsa kuti ndi ati omwe angapangitse kuti apulumutsidwe. M'chidziwitso changa chimodzi chokha chomwe sichingayenerere ndi Gnosticism chifukwa amakana kuti imfa ya Khristu inali ndi... Werengani zambiri "
Ngati YHWH ndi dzina la Atate ndipo Yesu ndi dzina la mwana, kodi dzina lautatuwo ndi ndani ndipo dzina la mzimu woyera ndi ndani?
Mfundo yomveka nthawi zambiri imanyalanyazidwa pokambirana. Zikomo.
ken ndiye "Orthodoxy yoyera"
Ndikuwona kuti ngakhale mwadzichotsa m'gulu, ziphunzitso zawo zina zimakukondanibe. Zili bwino, chofunikira ndichakuti tonse tidatha kutuluka m'manja mwa GB. Kunena zoona sindikuganiza kuti kukhulupirira (kapena kusakhulupirira) Utatu n’kofunikira kuti munthu apulumuke, koma ndikuganiza kuti n’kosafunika kunena kuti katswiri wamaphunziro a Baibulo a ulaliki ndi wabodza chifukwa chakuti amaphunzitsa chiphunzitso chimene simuchikhulupirira. Ndikanakonda ndi mtima wonse Alan F. Segals "Mphamvu ziwiri Kumwamba", akadali ntchito yabwino kwambiri yaukatswiri yomwe ilipo masiku ano yofufuza... Werengani zambiri "
Cooper, kodi umakhulupirira kuti ziphunzitso zonse za bungweli ndi zabodza?
Ndimakhulupirira kuti ziphunzitso zawo zilizonse zozikidwa pa kutanthauzira kolakwika kwa malembo, mwachitsanzo kumasulira mosasamala kanthu za chikhalidwe choyambirira, ndi zabodza. Ndimakhulupiriranso kuti ziphunzitso zilizonse zomwe ali nazo zomwe ayenera kuchirikiza potchula akatswiri olakwika, kubisa umboni, komanso kunama kwenikweni ndizobodza. 1914 imabwera m'maganizo.
Ndikuvomereza, koma izi zingatanthauzenso kuti Utatu ndi wabodza popeza umadalira kumasulira kolakwika kwa Malemba.
Ndiwo maganizo anu, koma umboni uli kuti? Ndatchulapo malemba ambiri, zolembedwa za m’kachisi wachiwiri ndi ma targums angapo kutsimikizira mfundo yanga, imene ili yakuti panali chiphunzitso chaumulungu cha Utatu chimene chinalipo kalekale Kristu asanabwere, udindo umene tsopano uli ndi akatswiri ambiri amakono. Mukudalira maganizo achikale a akatswiri a zaka za m'ma 20 pamene akatswiri analibe mwayi wopeza zambiri mwa zolembedwazi, ndipo sankamvetsetsa chikhalidwe chomwe analembera. kuti amvetse bwino zimene Ayuda akale ankakhulupirira. Basi momwe ife tiriri... Werengani zambiri "
Sindikudziwa zomwe ukunena polemba kuti ndikudalira “lingaliro lachikale la akatswiri kuyambira kumayambiriro kwa zaka za zana la 20 ". Mukuyankha ndemanga yomwe imatchula mawu ayi lingaliro la akatswiri konse. Nawa mawu a ndemanga yomwe mukuyankha:
Ndikuvomereza, koma izi zingatanthauzenso kuti Utatu ndi wabodza popeza umadalira kumasulira kolakwika kwa Malemba.
Ndikunena za kukambitsirana kumene munakhala nako ndi James Penton ponena za Utatu, koyamba kumene kunali ndi lingaliro ili: “Koma malinga ndi zimene mukundiuza, mulibe umboni m’Baibulo, kapena m’mbiri ya anthu. mtundu wa Israyeli Kristu asanabwere, kapenanso gulu lirilonse la Chikristu kufikira m’zaka za zana la 3 losonyeza bwino lomwe Utatu.” Penton ndiye akugwirizana ndi mawu anu. Ichi chikuwoneka ngati chimango chomwe mumagwiritsa ntchito m'nkhani yanu ya Utatu yomwe ndawerengapo, ndipo powona kuti ndi tsamba lanu ndikuganiza kuti anthu apa ayenera... Werengani zambiri "
Cooper "Chowonadi ndi chowonadi" ndipo ngati mukufuna kudalira malingaliro a "amuna a zilembo" kuti afotokozereni kuti mutsimikizire chinthu chomveka bwino monga chiyambi cha utatu, ndikuyesera kupanga tizidutswa tating'ono takuti kukhala mbali ya malingaliro achiyuda m'mbuyomu, ndiye kuti zili pa inu, ngati muwerenga malemba ndi zolemba za mbiri yakale, chiphunzitso cha Utatu chinabwera mwa Nimrod ndi Babulo, osati kuchokera ku "kabala's of the Ayuda akale", chinalowetsedwa bwino m'gulu lachikhristu lampatuko pambuyo pa imfa ya Yohane, ndiyeno kuvomereza kwathunthu ndikukankhidwa ndi okalamba abwino... Werengani zambiri "
Mumamverabe malingaliro a Alexander Hislop? Iye anazipanga izo kwenikweni. Ziphunzitso zake zinali zozikidwa pa chinthu china chilichonse chodalirika, makamaka maganizo ake. Ngakhale bungwe silimamutchulanso. Ndiopa kuti mwasocheretsedwa ndi munthu wamakalata.
Sekani "Adazipanga zonsezo" ndipo ndi mawu otere (bodza) mumatsutsa zolemba zonse za mbiri yakale !!! lol ndizomveka kuwona komwe mtima / malingaliro anu ali!
Zolemba zakale?? Ndikukayika kuti mudayang'ana mutuwo mozama kwambiri, apo ayi simukanati munene zotere. Zikomo ponditchula kuti ndine wabodza. Ndikuchitirani ntchito yosabwezera m’bale wachipongweyo, popeza ndikuwoneka kuti mumakhulupiriradi kuti Utatu unachokera kwa Nimrodi. Ndikunena kuti ndikumva kuti mwasokonekera, ndipo ndikukhulupirira kuti tsiku lina “mudzafika pa chidziŵitso cholongosoka cha choonadi” kudzagwira mawu abale athu akale a JW. Mulungu akudalitseni BobPfohl.
cooper Sindikumvetsa momwe mphamvu ZIWIRI za Kumwamba zimachirikiza chiphunzitso cha Utatu. Kodi sichikanatsutsa Utatu? Ngati Utatu ukanakhala woona, kodi sikukanakhala mphamvu ITATU Kumwamba? Utatu umatsimikizira kuti Atate, Mwana, ndi Mzimu Woyera onse ali ofanana ndi amuyaya, kutanthauza kuti palibe aliyense wa iwo amene ali ndi chiyambi (iliyonse ndi yosalengedwa) NDI kuti chirichonse chiri chofanana ponena za mphamvu ndi ulamuliro. Ngati lingaliro loterolo likanakhala loona, kodi ife sitikanaliwona ilo likuwonetseredwa mmenemo, o, ine sindikudziwa, mawu a Mulungu Baibulo? Ngati lingaliro la Mulungu yemwe ali “1 essence, 3... Werengani zambiri "
Moni rajeshsony Ayuda a m'nthawi ya Yesu anali ndi malingaliro osiyanasiyana a momwe Mulungu amagwirira ntchito ndendende. Mawu akuti "mphamvu ziwiri" anali amodzi oterowo, ndipo ndi amodzi mwa omwe tili ndi malembo apamanja omwe akupezeka kuti amawatcha motero. Palinso zolembedwa zina zomwe zimasunga miyambo ina yosonyeza kuti Ayuda ambiri anali kutsata chiphunzitso chaumulungu cha “atatu mwa mmodzi”. Philo analemba miyambo yoteroyo, monganso mmene Origen amachitira zimene anaphunzira kwa mbuye wake wachihebri. Kukwera kumwamba kwa Yesaya, cholembedwa chogwirizana kwambiri ndi zolemba za ku Qumran, kumayamba ndi mawu a Yesaya kwa Hezekiya pogwiritsa ntchito njira ya Utatu:... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikupeza lingaliro lakuti kwa okhulupirira Utatu, kutchulidwa kulikonse kwa atatu mu vesi limodzi kumachirikiza chiphunzitso chawo chonse. Abrahamu, Isaka, ndi Yakobo onse akutchulidwa mu ndime imodzi ndipo onse ali ndi chikhalidwe chofanana, ergo, Utatu.
Ndikhulupirira Utatu weniweni woyamba unapangidwa ndi anthu atatu oyambirira opandukira Yehova, ndipo ameneyo anali Satana, Hava, ndi Adamu, ameneyo anali Utatu woyamba!
Cooper: lingaliro labodza kwa onse "Akhristu achi Orthodox" akuyenda pano kuti anene kuti chifukwa munthu wasiya "gulu" (la JWS) lomwe akufuna kapena abwerere ku "chipembedzo chachikhristu" !!! M'malo mwake, akhristu enieni amatsogozedwa ndi mizimu ya milungu kuti apite patsogolo kuchoka ku "orthodoxy ndi JW Organisation" kuti apitilize kuchoka pampatuko waukulu ndikugwirizanitsa malingaliro awo ku ufumu wa Yesu, posachedwapa! izi zikutanthauza kupita patsogolo kupitirira "Group think" yomwe imalowa m'magulu onsewa!! (2 Atesalonika 2:3-5) 3 Munthu aliyense asakusocheretseni m’njira iliyonse, chifukwa... Werengani zambiri "
“Kuti Iye aukitse thupi Lake ayenera kuti anali Munthu wauzimu mkati mwa masiku atatuwo.” chifukwa chiyani mukumvetsetsa Yohane 2:19 momwe mumamvera?
Meleti Vivlon,
Ndimayesabe kuphimba mutu wanga mmene awo amene kale anali majdub, akali amaganizo auzimu ndi kukhulupirira Mulungu ndiyeno akutembenuka ndi kutengera chiphunzitso cha Utatu cha Dziko Lachikristu. M’maganizo mwanga, n’chimodzimodzi ndi kugwetsa chibwenzi choyipa n’kungotenga chibwezi osadziŵa kuti iye ndi ndani. Mungaganize kuti munthu wina amene achoka pa chiphunzitso chonyenga sangakhale wofunitsitsa kunyamula mbale ina osayang'ana zosakaniza zonse poyamba. Kodi izi zimachitika bwanji?
Lingaliro langa ndi lakuti kufunika kokhala m’gulu linalake, kusakhala wekha, kumakulitsa chikondi chawo cha choonadi.
Mwina Mulungu adzawakhululukira!
Ndikukhulupirira kuti Mulungu akhululukiranso a Unitarian!
Ndine wotsimikiza kuti Mulungu adzakhululukiranso okhulupirira Utatu!
Pali akapolo anayi. Ndi mmodzi yekha amene amalandira mphoto yoperekedwa kwa Akristu ndi Yesu. Koma mwachionekere, aŵiri a iwo amapezanso mwayi wina wamoyo. “Kenako Petro anati: “Ambuye, kodi mukunena fanizo ili kwa ife kapena kwa aliyense?” 42 Ndipo Ambuye anati: “Ndani kwenikweni amene ali mdindo wokhulupirika ndi wanzeru, amene mbuye wake adzamuika kuti aziyang’anira gulu la atumiki ake kuti aziwapatsa chakudya chawo pa nthawi yoyenera? 43 Kapolo ameneyo adzakhala wodala ngati mbuye wake pobwera adzam’peza akuchita zimenezo! 44 Indetu ndinena kwa inu, Adzamuyika iye woyang’anira zonse... Werengani zambiri "
Ngati tipanga malingaliro otere "Ndikukhulupirira kuti Mulungu adzakhululukiranso okhulupirira Utatu!” Kodi sitikupanga “Chiweruzo” mu mtima mwathu kuti maganizo olakwika ndi abwino? ndipo chifukwa chake chomwe chimatilimbikitsa kufunafuna chowonadi ngati "ngale yamtengo wapatali", Paulo adalankhula za kukhala "osavomerezeka mwanjira ina" ndiye tiyenera kudziikira malamulo tokha kapena ena kutengera zomwe Yehova angakhululukire ndikusakhululukira, ndiye kuti "kusewera". Mulungu” ndikuphwanya lamulo loyamba!
Wokondedwa BobPohl, kuyankha kwanga kwa Cooper sikunalingaliridwa ngati kutsutsidwa, koma mosiyana. Mukudziwa, ndili kutali kwambiri kuti ndisaweruze aliyense. Yankho langa linali lofanana ndi lomwe limatsatira ndemanga yanga pamwambapa, pomwe ndidawunikira chikondi. Kotero (mwinamwake) tanthauzo lobisika la yankho langa kwa Cooper liri lokhudza kukondana wina ndi mnzake: “Ndili wotsimikiza kuti Mulungu adzakhululukiranso Okhulupirira Utatu!” + “Ndikutsimikiza kuti Mulungu adzakhululukiranso Okhulupirira Umodzi!” = „Koposa zonse, sungani. mukondane ndi mtima wonse, pakuti chikondi chimakwirira unyinji wa machimo.” ( 1 Petulo 4:8 ) Kotero Cooper amakonda onse a Unitarians (ndipo ndithudi Okhulupirira Utatu, nawonso) ndipo amafuna... Werengani zambiri "
Wokondedwa wanga Frankie, Choyamba, chikondi changa kwa Cooper ndi inu chimandilimbikitsa kuti ndikuchenjezeni nonse pakukhala oweruza m'malo mwa Mulungu kapena mwana wake! Kumvetsetsa kokwanira komanso kolondola “chikondi” ndikofunika kwambiri pa kuthekera kwathu kukhala “amodzi ndi Mulungu” ndi Mwana wake. Choncho, tiyeni tione malemba kuti atithandize kumvetsa bwino. ( Marko 8:30-33 ) 30 Pamenepo anawalamula mwamphamvu kuti asauze aliyense za iye. 31 Ndipo anayamba kuwaphunzitsa kuti Mwana wa munthu ayenera kukumana ndi masautso ambiri ndi kukanidwa ndi akulu ndi akulu.... Werengani zambiri "
Wokondedwa BobPfohl,
tiyenera kukhululukirana wina ndi mzake - ichi ndicho lamulo za Ambuye wathu:
"Pakuti ngati mukhululukira ena zolakwa zawo, Atate wanu wa Kumwamba adzakhululukira inunso” ( Mateyu 6:14 )
Komanso:
Mat 18:22; Luka 11:4; 17:4; Yohane 20:23; 2 Akor 2:10; Aef 4:32; Akolose 3:13 .
Ndilibenso zonena za izi. Chonde, yesani kuganizira za chikhululukiro.
Ndi chikondi, Frankie.
Wokondedwa Frankie, sindikuwona tchimo lomwe likuchitika pano? pokhapokha mukuona kuti chilango ndi tchimo? Mukuwona kuti sindikukhululukirani kapena kupitilira chiyani? ( 2 Timoteo 3:8-4:5 ) 8 Tsopano monga mmene Yane ndi Yambre anatsutsira Mose, iwonso akupitiriza kutsutsa choonadi. Anthu oterowo ndi oipitsidwa kotheratu m’maganizo, okanidwa m’chikhulupiriro. + 9 Ngakhale zili choncho, iwo sadzapitanso patsogolo, pakuti kupusa kwawo kudzaonekera bwino kwa onse, + monga mmene zinalili ndi anthu awiri aja. 10 Koma iwe watsata chiphunzitso changa, njira ya moyo wanga, cholinga changa, chikhulupiriro changa, ndi chikhulupiriro changa... Werengani zambiri "
Wokondedwa BobPohl,
Ndiye ndinakuimba mlandu kuti sunakhululukire? Kodi ndikukhala pampando wa Yehova wa Chiweruzo? Nanga ndi chiyani chinanso chomwe mukunena pazifukwa zanga zoti tikhululukirane? Mukunditsutsanso chiyani?
Sindinadzudzulepo aliyense ndipo sindikutsutsa iwe. Sindikudziwa cholinga chanu.
Tandilekeni! Kutha kwa zokambirana.
Frankie, mukamagwiritsa ntchito mawu oti "zosavuta zanga" zikuwonetsa kuti mukufuna kudziwonetsa ngati wodzichepetsa m'maso mwa omwe akuwona mawu anu, mafunso anu awiri otsegulira ndi njira zanzeru zondinenera kuti ndikuweruza "chochitika" chanu osati machitidwe anu, osati Yehova yekha kapena mwana wake amene angachite zimenezo, koma khalidwe lanu likuwonekera poyera kwa ine, ndipo simuchita zimene linaulula kotero kuti mumalephera kusadziwa ndikukana khalidwe lanu ndikuyesera kulepheretsa kukambirana kwina kulikonse kuti mufike pa choonadi. ndi kutsiriza koona mtima kapena mgwirizano wa chowonadi. kotero, palibe... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikuvomereza kwathunthu!
Wokondedwa Bob,
Ndikufuna kupepesa chifukwa choyankha mosamalitsa ndemanga yanu. Nthawi zina sindikhala ndi tsiku labwino, koma sindingathe kukwiya kwa nthawi yayitali. Sindikukwiyirani ngakhale pang’ono, ndipo ndikuyembekeza kuti inunso simunakwiye nane. Tikhoza kukhala ndi maganizo osiyana, koma chofunika kwambiri ndi chikondi cha pakati pa abale ndi alongo, inu ndi ine komanso tonsefe.
Ndikufuna kukumbatirani ndipo ndikufunirani madalitso ambiri a Mulungu paulendo wanu kuchokera ku WT kupita kwa Yesu Khristu.
Ndi chikondi, Frankie.
Uphungu umenewu ndi wothandiza.
“. . .Ngakhale wakuchimwira kasanu ndi kawiri pa tsiku, nabwera kwa iwe kasanu ndi kawiri ndi kunena kuti, ‘Ndalapa ine,’ umukhululukire.” ( Luka 17:4 ) Ngakhale kuti akuchimwira kasanu ndi kawiri pa tsiku, n’kubwerera kwa iwe kasanu ndi kawiri n’kunena kuti, ‘Ndalapa ine,’ umukhululukire.”
Timazindikira kuti chikhululukiro sichimaperekedwa mwadala, koma chifukwa cha pempho lolapa.
Wokondedwa Eric, ndikuganiza kuti lemba loyamba lomwe ndatchulalo ndilofunika: “Pakuti ngati mukhululukira ena zolakwa zawo, Atate wanu wakumwamba adzakhululukira inunso,” (Mat 6:14) - koma enawo ndi ofunika. Lembali likunena za zomwe muyenera kuchita ndi m'bale wanu kaye - izi ndizofunikira. Muyenera kukhala okangalika pakukhululuka chifukwa: “…Ngati simukhululukira ena zolakwa zawo, Atate wanunso sadzakukhululukirani zolakwa zanu” (Mateyu 6:15). Ngati sindikhululuka, sindidzakhululukidwa. Komabe, Mulungu akhoza kukhululukira amene wandilakwira, ngakhale ngati... Werengani zambiri "
Tiyenera kugwirizanitsa malemba onse kuti timvetsetse bwino ndikukhala olinganizika. Mulungu sakhululukira aliyense. Apo ayi, sipakanakhala kufunika kwa nyanja ya moto. Mfundo yofunika kwambiri ndiyo kukhululuka pakakhala kulapa koona.
Zomwe zili zofunika, kukondana ndi zomwe ndapeza kuchokera ku ndemanga yanu! Mulungu akudalitseni inu m'bale.
simuli "Kuweruza" Cooper ndi malingaliro anu? ndipo kodi chimenecho si chinthu chowopsa kuchita?
Sindinaweruze aliyense m'malo mwa Mulungu, ndikupemphera kuti abale anga onse apitirire panjira yopapatiza ya kumoyo.
opanda kulapa?
Izi ndi zomwe ndimatcha "Ganizirani zamagulu" zimamangidwa mu ubongo wa satana wolumikizidwa ndi zinthu zambiri: utatu = gulu la 3, demokalase = kumvera gulu lalikulu, (lomwe limakhala chinyengo chomwe Rutherford adagwiritsa ntchito. Kuwongolera kwa gulu la Ophunzira Baibulo), chosowa ichi ndi dongosolo lachitukuko lomwe Satana adapanga mwa ife kumalimbikitsidwa kwambiri ndi gulu ndipo kukhulupirika kuli gulu ndi atsogoleri amagulu, izi zidachitika mochenjera kwambiri ndi Rutherford kuyambira 1917 mabuku omwe adalemba. amalembedwa nthawi zonse akamatchula “Mulungu” Kapena “Yehova” pamenepo... Werengani zambiri "
"wowerenga pamapeto pake amawona zinthu ziwiri zosiyanazo kukhala zofanana "Mulungu" ndi "gulu" iyi ndi njira yochenjera kwambiri yoganizira gulu." Chitsanzo chaposachedwa kwambiri komanso mwina chachikulu kwambiri cha izi chinali Nkhani Yophunzira 39 ya Nsanja ya Olonda ya Seputembara 2021, "Pamene Wokondedwa Wasiya Yehova". M'nkhaniyi, kuchotsedwa / kudzilekanitsa ndi gulu ndikofanana ndi "kusiya Yehova". Sindikudziwa ngati nkhaniyi imanenanso za "kusiya gulu" kamodzi. Ine sindikuganiza kuti zimatero. Amangonena kuti "kusiya Yehova". Ndi zosakhulupiririka kuti zapita bwanji. M'malingaliro a JW, kusiya gulu ndikofanana... Werengani zambiri "
oona mtima, Ngati wofunafuna chowonadi, munthu, ali mboni ya Yehova chifukwa amakhulupirira kuti “chowonadi cha Mulungu” chimapezeka kokha m’malire a gulu la anthulo, ndiyeno n’kuyang’anizana ndi kuthekera kwakuti zimenezo sizoona, ndiye kukhala ndi chisankho chovuta kupanga, kenako chimawayesa ngati chikondi chenicheni pa Mulungu chilidi chosiyana ndi kudzikonda kapena kwa ena (gulu). ambiri amakonda gululo amaganiza za Mulungu, ndipo "atachotsedwa mu JWS" amafunafuna kuvomerezedwa ndi Gulu m'malo mozindikira Mphatso yeniyeni yochokera kwa Mulungu pakutayidwa.... Werengani zambiri "
BobPfohl,
Mfundo za m’Malemba zimenezi ndi zanzeru kwambiri. Ndiwabera mopanda manyazi chifukwa cha kanema womaliza wautatu. ?
Palibe manyazi tikamagwirira ntchito limodzi, ndine wokhulupirira kwambiri Synergy, ndipo mukaponya mzimu woyera wa Mulungu zabwino zambiri zitha kuchitika! Ndili ndi zinthu zambiri zomwe ndikufuna kugawana nanu ndi ena osonkhana pano! Tikhoza kudzitamandira ndi Uthenga Wabwino wa choonadi: ( 1 Akorinto 9:15-18 ) 15 Koma sindinagwiritse ntchito ngakhale limodzi mwa zinthu zimenezi [makonzedwe]. Zoonadi, sindinalemba izi kuti zikhale choncho kwa ine, pakuti nkwabwino kuti ndife kuposa—palibe munthu amene adzanditsimikizira.... Werengani zambiri "
Pomwe a Beroean Picket Bible & Tract Society akukangana pakati pawo, amisala omwe amayendetsa dziko lapansi akufunafuna kuti agwetse mizinda iti!!
N’cifukwa ciani mumatinyoza?
Eric - Chifukwa zolemba ndi makanema omwe mumapanga nthawi zonse zimabweretsa magawano mwina muli ndi chifukwa chokhazikika cholozera mu Nsanja ya Olonda nthawi zonse m'malo mongoyang'ana zinthu zabwino monga masamba ena achikhristu a "Orthodox". Ndilo lingaliro langa- Mmodzi ayenera kuwonjezera. - !
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( Mateyu 10:33-35 ) . . .. 34 Musaganize kuti ndinadzera kubweretsa mtendere pa dziko lapansi; sindinabwere kudzabweretsa mtendere, koma lupanga. 35 Pakuti ndinabwera kudzagawanitsa munthu ndi bambo ake, mwana wamkazi kutsutsana ndi mayi ake, mpongozi kutsutsana ndi apongozi ake.
Magawano ndi zotsatira za anthu amene amatsutsana ndi malamulo a Mulungu ndi amene amayesetsa kukhala ogwirizana ndi Mulungu!
Inde, Ken ngati simukufuna akupita patsogolo kupitirira "Orthodoxy" khalani nawo, ndi kufa nawo!
“Ponseponse pamapu” muli ndi chikhumbo chofuna “kuyendetsa sitimayi”!
Eric - Chifukwa chiyani mumalankhula monyoza atsogoleri a WBTS ngakhale atakhala ophimbidwa pang'ono. Bwanji mukundidzudzula? Kodi mukugwiritsa ntchito ip logger? N'chifukwa chiyani aliyense amagwiritsa ntchito alias? Kodi amawopa chiyani? Mateyu 10:37 . -Ken
Ndiye funso langa linali loti ndikufunseni chifukwa chani mumatinyoza ndipo yankho lanu linali loti tizineneza zonyasa???
Ngati mulibe okondwa kuno, n’chifukwa chiyani mukupitiriza kubwera?
1) Ndimachita izi pachifukwa chomwe Yesu adalankhula monyoza atsogoleri achipembedzo anthawi yake. Kodi muli ndi vuto ndi zimenezo? 2) Kodi mumakhulupirira kuti kudzudzula munthu nthawi zonse ndikolakwika? 3) Sindikudziwa kuti IP logger ndi chiyani, koma sindigwiritsa ntchito. Sindikudziwa chifukwa chake mukuganiza kuti ndingafune. 4) Timagwiritsa ntchito mawu otchulika pano chifukwa tikufuna kupewa mazunzo. (Ndikuganiza kuti simunakhalepo a JW.) 5) Sindivomereza zomwe funso lanu likunena. Zili ngati ndikufunseni kuti munasiya liti... Werengani zambiri "
Eric Mukandilola kuyankha zonena zanu popanda kudzudzulidwa 1) Atsogoleri achipembedzo mwina anaona kapena kudziŵa kuti Yesu anali kuchita zozizwitsa. Sindikukumbukira kuti GB ikuchita zozizwitsa pokhapokha mutawerenga zomanga mwachangu. 2) Sindikhulupirira kuti kutsutsa nthawi zonse ndikolakwika koma ndidakufunsani chifukwa chomwe mumandidzudzula kudzera pa imelo ndipo ndimaganiza kuti ndiyenera kuyankha. 3) Mumatchula m'malamulo anu kuti ngati wina watulutsidwa "sadzatsatiridwa" ndipo inu nokha munati mudalemba mapulogalamu ndipo mukudziwa mapulogalamu. Ndinangokufunsani ngati... Werengani zambiri "
Munandifunsa chifukwa chomwe ndimalankhula monyoza za GB ndipo ndidayankha kuti nditero chifukwa chomwe Yesu adalankhula monyoza atsogoleri achipembedzo amasiku ano. Kenako ndimayembekezera kuti muyankha funso langa, koma m'malo mwake, munabwera ndi lingaliro losokoneza ili:
1) Atsogoleri achipembedzo ankaona kapena ankadziwa kuti Yesu ankachita zozizwitsa. Sindikukumbukira kuti GB ikuchita zozizwitsa pokhapokha mutawerenga zomanga mwachangu.
Kodi GB yosachita zozizwitsa ikukhudzana ndi chiyani?
2) Mukanakhala ndi ufulu woyankhidwa ngati maziko anu anali owona, koma kachiwiri mukugwira ntchito yonyenga. Pano pali tanthauzo la "kutsutsa".
"kusonyeza kutsutsa kwakukulu kwa (wina kapena chinachake), makamaka m'mawu omveka bwino."
Monga momwe ndikudziwira, sindinakuchitireni zimenezo, koma ngati sizili choncho, chonde ndilozeni kumene ndinachitira.
4) Chifukwa chiyani mukupepesa ndi lamulo latsopanoli? Kodi ndi ntchito yochuluka kuti muphatikizepo zolemba za maumboni anu kuti mupulumutse owerenga anu ntchito yoyang'ana? Munalemba potseka "Ngati muli ndi chikondi chakuya Eric Wokondedwa ndiye kuti mulola kuyankha - Zabwino Zabwino - Ken" Ndalola mayankho anu onse mpaka pano, sichoncho? Mukunena zowona kuti sindikudziwa mikhalidwe yanu kapena kuchuluka kwa chidziwitso chanu cha m'Baibulo, ndiye ndiloleni ndifotokoze kuti ndikanena “chikondi chozama”, ndimanena za chikondi cha agape, chomwe nthawi zonse.... Werengani zambiri "
Eric - Mwaulemu ayi mulibe. “Ngati simuli osangalala kuno, n’chifukwa chiyani mukupitiriza kubwera?” Ndinayankha “Mwina munali ndi “Choonadi”. Sizinawonekere ngakhale ndidalandira imelo yonena kuti mwavomereza. Chifukwa chake munandidzudzula motsutsana ndi zomwe mudanena kuti, "Sindikukutsutsani". Ndakufunsani kusiyana pakati pa kudzudzula ndi kuvomereza. Simunayankhe funso limenelo. kudzudzula ndi kukana ndizofanana Ngati ndiyenera kukhala ndi chivomerezo chanu (ndi tsamba lanu lomwe muli nalo) ndiye mukangotsutsa ndiye kuti... Werengani zambiri "
Munadandaula za kudzudzulidwa pamene ndikuyikani pamzere wololeza. Kumeneko sikudzudzula. Ndapereka ndemanga zanu zonse zomwe ndikuwona kuti sizikuphwanya malangizo a forum. Ena adaphwanya malangizo-monga awa-koma ndidawadutsabe.
Ken, inu mukuwoneka wokongola mandala kwa ine ndi osawopa kufotokoza izo kwa inu, Inu nthawizonse kuyamba mauthenga anu ndi mawu monga “Ndi Ulemu”, “Pa zimene izo mtengo”, “Ine Woweruza palibe” etc. uku kumatchedwa “kuonetsa ukoma”! lakonzedwa kuti lipangitse anthu kukuonani monga “munthu wakhalidwe labwino”! vuto ndi zimenezo nlakuti nthaŵi zonse mumadzinenera nokha ukoma umenewo mwa inu nokha m’malo molola omvera anu kuzindikira zimenezo mwa zolankhula zanu ndi zochita zanu, (uwo ndiwo mtundu wa kudzitamandira mwa inu nokha)! ndiye pakubwera kuwukira kwanu, komwe kumapangidwira nthawi zonse kuti mupente munthu yemwe mukukangana naye ngati... Werengani zambiri "
Palibe Alias pano?, nanga "dzina lanu lonse lowonekera" Ken? Ken uku ndi mantha omwe ukuyenera kukhala nawo!! ( Mlaliki 3:14 ) 14 Ndadziwa kuti chilichonse chimene Mulungu woona amapanga chidzakhalapo mpaka kalekale. Palibe chowonjezerapo ndipo palibe chochotserapo. Mulungu woona wapanga zimenezi kuti anthu azimuopa. Mlaliki 12:13-14 13 Chitsimikizo cha nkhaniyo, zonse zamveka, ndi izi: Opa Mulungu woona, musunge malamulo ake; pakuti choyenera anthu onse ndi ichi. 14 Pakuti Mulungu woona adzaweruza zochita zonse, kuphatikizapo zobisika zonse... Werengani zambiri "
ken: zoneneza zanu zogwiritsa ntchito "ip logger" zikuwoneka ngati ziwanda!
( Genesis 3:4, 5 ) . . . Pamenepo njoka inauza mkaziyo kuti: “Kufa simudzafai. 5 Pakuti Mulungu akudziwa kuti tsiku limene mudzadye umenewo, maso anu adzatseguka, ndipo mudzakhala ngati Mulungu, wodziwa zabwino ndi zoipa.”
kugwiritsa ntchito koyipa kwa "mphamvu yamalingaliro" !!
Ken, chimene mumachitcha “Kukangana pakati pawo” ngati kuti “n’chinthu choipa” kukhala ndi lemba la “makambitsirano olimbikitsa ateokratiki” limafotokoza kuti ndi njira yofunika kwa amuna amene ali ogwirizana kukhala ndi cholinga chopeza choonadi kuti athe kukumana. ndi kukambitsirana ndi kulola “mzimu Woyera” kuwatsogolera ku chigwirizano choyenera! m'malo mwake, mumayesa kusokoneza ndondomekoyi ndi "nkhondo ya satana" yomwe "Akhristu enieni" ayenera kukhala kutali nayo! Timakhulupirira Mulungu wathu Wamkulu, Yehova ndi Mwana wake, kuti adzaonetsetsa kuti chifuniro chake ndi zolinga zake zichitika pa nthawi yake... Werengani zambiri "