Kubwerera mu Januware, tidawonetsa kuti palibe chifukwa chilichonse cha m'Malemba chonena kuti "kagulu ka nkhosa" kopezeka pa Luka 12:32 amangonena za gulu la Akhristu omwe akuyenera kukalamulira kumwamba pomwe a "nkhosa zina" pa Yohane 10:16 amatanthauza kwa gulu lina lokhala ndi chiyembekezo chapadziko lapansi. (Onani Ndani? (Gulu Laling'ono / Nkhosa Zina) Zachidziwikire, izi pazokha sizimatsutsana ndi chiphunzitso chamakonzedwe a mphoto ziwiri kwa akhristu amakono, koma kuti mawu awiriwa sangagwiritsidwe ntchito kuchirikiza chiphunzitsocho.
Tsopano tafika ku gawo lina la chiphunzitso. Chikhulupiriro chakuti a 144,000 otchulidwa mu Chivumbulutso chaputala 7 ndi 14 ndi nambala yeniyeni.
Ngati zili zenizeni, ndiye kuti payenera kukhala dongosolo la magawo awiri chifukwa pali mamiliyoni a akhristu okhulupirika omwe akugwira ntchito ya Ambuye lero, osasamala zomwe zatheka pazaka ziwiri zapitazi ndi anthu ena ambiri.
Tiyenera kudziwa kuti kutsimikizira kuti chiwerengerochi sichachidziwikire sikutsutsa chiphunzitso chakuti Akhristu ena amapita kumwamba pomwe ena amakhalabe padziko lapansi. Imeneyo ndi nkhani yapadera, ndi china choti mukambirane. Zomwe tikufuna kuchita pantchitoyi ndikukhazikitsa maziko amalemba, ngati alipo, okhulupirira kuti 144,000 yomwe ikuwonetsedwa m'buku la Chivumbulutso ndi nambala yeniyeni, osati yophiphiritsa.
Kodi timaphunzitsa kuti kodi nambala ndi yeniyeni? Kodi ndichifukwa choti Malembedwe amatero? Ayi. Palibe chidziwitso cha mwamalemba chomwe chimatsimikizira kuti nambalayi ndi yeniyeni. Timafika pachikhulupiriro ichi potengera kulingalira ndi kuchotsera kwanzeru. Ngati mungafune kusanthula zofalitsa zathu, muphunzira kuti chifukwa chachikulu chomwe tikukhulupirira kuti chiwerengerochi chiyenera kutengedwa ndichakuti ndichosiyana ndi kuchuluka kwa Khamu Lalikulu. (Chiv. 7: 9, w66 3/15 p. 183; w04 9/1 mas. 30-31) Mfundo yake ndi iyi: Ngati titenga nambala ngati yophiphiritsa kuposa kupangitsa kuchuluka kwa khamu lalikulu kukhala kopanda tanthauzo sikumveka. . Pokhapokha ngati chiwerengerocho, 144,000, chikhale chenicheni ndiye kuti ndizomveka kuyambitsa gulu losiyana la nambala yosadziwika.
Sitikutsutsana pamfundoyi kapena kupeza lingaliro lina pano. Nthawi ina, mwina. Cholinga chathu pano ndikungodziwa ngati chiphunzitsochi chingagwirizane ndi Malemba.
Njira imodzi yoyesa kuti chiphunzitsocho chimachitikadi ndicho kupitiriza mawu omaliza.
Chivumbulutso 14: 4 imati nambala iyi ndi losindikizidwa kuchokera fuko lililonse la ana a Israeli. Tsopano tikuphunzitsa kuti nambala yeniyeniyi is onse a "Israyeli wa Mulungu"[I]. (Agal. 6:16) Funso loyamba limene limabwera m'maganizo ndi loti, Zingatheke bwanji kuti anthu 144,000 akhale losindikizidwa kuchokera ana a Israeli ngati 144,000 akupanga ana onse a Israeli? Kugwiritsa ntchito mawuwo kungasonyeze kuti gulu laling'ono likusankhidwa kuchokera pagulu lalikulu, sichoncho? Apanso, mutu woti mukambirane.
Chotsatira, tili ndi mndandanda wamafuko khumi ndi awiri. Osati mndandanda wa mafuko enieni chifukwa Dani ndi Efraimu sanalembedwe. Fuko la Levi likuwonekera koma silinalembedwepo ndi khumi ndi awiri oyamba ndipo fuko latsopano la Yosefe limawonjezedwa. (it-2 tsa. 1125) Ntheura ici cikung’anamura kuti ni Israyeli wa Ciuta. Yakobo akutchula Mpingo wachikhristu ngati “mafuko khumi ndi awiri amene amwazikana…” (Yakobo 1: 1)
Tsopano, zikutsatira kuti ngati 144,000 ndi nambala yeniyeni, kuposa kugawaniza m'magulu khumi ndi awiri a 12,000 iliyonse, iyeneranso kutanthauza manambala enieni. Chifukwa chake, 12,000 osindikizidwa kuchokera m'mafuko a Rubeni, Gadi, Aseri, ndi ena otero, ali ndi manambala enieni ochokera m'mafuko enieni. Simungatenge nambala yeniyeni mu fuko lophiphiritsira, sichoncho? Kodi mumatenga bwanji anthu 12,000 enieni kuchokera ku fuko lofanizira la Yosefe, mwachitsanzo?
Zonsezi zimagwira ntchito ngati chinthu chonsecho ndichofanizira. Ngati 144,000 ndi nambala yophiphiritsira yomwe imagwiritsidwa ntchito ngati kuchulukitsa kwa 12 posonyeza kuchuluka kwa anthu ambiri omwe akonzedwa mogwirizana ndi boma, ndiye kuti a 12,000 nawonso amafanizira fanizoli posonyeza kuti magulu onse imayimiridwanso mofananamo komanso moyenera.
Komabe, ngati 144,000 ndi yeniyeni, ndiye kuti 12,000 iyeneranso kukhala yeniyeni, ndipo mafukowo ayenera kukhala enieni mwanjira ina. Mitundu iyi si yauzimu, koma yapadziko lapansi, chifukwa 12,000 imasindikizidwa kuchokera mwa aliyense wa iwo, ndipo tikudziwa kuti kusindikizidwa kumachitika Akhristuwa akadali m'thupi. Chifukwa chake, ngati tingavomereze kuti manambala ndi enieni, ndiye kuti payenera kukhala kugawanika kwenikweni kwa mpingo wachikhristu kukhala m'magulu a 12 kuti pagulu lililonse azikhala nambala zenizeni za 12,000.
Apa ndipomwe kuchotsedwa kwathu koyenera kuyenera kutitsogolera, ngati titi tigwiritse. Kapenanso titha kuvomereza kuti nambala ndiyophiphiritsa ndipo zonsezi zimatha.
Chifukwa chiyani mukukangana? Kodi uku si kukambirana kwamaphunziro? Mtsutso wamaphunziro mwabwino kwambiri, wopanda zovuta zenizeni zenizeni? O, zikadakhala choncho. Chowonadi ndichakuti chiphunzitsochi chidatikakamiza m'ma 1930 kupanga malingaliro omwe amasankhiratu gulu limodzi la Akhrisitu monga opita kuulemerero wina ndi linzake lapadziko lapansi. Izi zafunikiranso kuti ambiri anyalanyaze lamulo la Yesu loti "pitirizani kuchita ichi pondikumbukira" (Luka 22:19) ndikupewa kudya zizindikiro. Zapangitsanso gulu lachiwirili kukhulupirira kuti Yesu si mkhalapakati wawo.
Mwina zonse ndi zoona. Sitikutsutsana pano. Mwina positi ina. Komabe, ziyenera kudziwikiratu kuti dongosolo lonse la kuphunzitsa ndi njira zopembedzera za Akhristu masiku ano, makamaka tikamayandikira Chikumbutso cha Imfa ya Khristu, zimangotengera kuchotsedwa kwachidziwikire kuti nambala ndiyachidziwikire kapena ayi.
Ngati Yehova amafuna kuti enafe tisamvere lamulo lomveka bwino la Mwana uyu, Mfumu yathu, kodi sakanatiwuza momveka bwino m'Mawu ake kuti titero?
Kutsutsa kwanga …..kuyambira ubwana.….. kufikira chiwerengero cha 144,000 kukhala chenicheni ndi..tinaphunzitsidwa kuti aliyense kuyambira nthawi ya mgonero womaliza mpaka 1935 pomwe kusindikizidwa kudamalizidwa kwa omwe akudyabe lero (20,000 kuphatikiza)… . Ziwerengero zadziko za anthu padziko lapansi kuyambira chiyambi cha kukhalapo kwa munthu ndi 144,000 biliyoni….tiyeni tidule theka mpaka 2,000 biliyoni…….Kodi mukuganiza kuti pa chiwerengero chimenecho anthu 40 okha kuyambira nthawi ya Khristu analipo omwe anali okhulupirika kwa Khristu? ? 20... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikuganiza, poganizira zonsezi, ndizotheka kuti ngati 144,000 ndi nambala yeniyeni. Mwina amatengedwa kuchokera ku "khamu lalikulu" lomwe "lili patsogolo pa mpando wachifumu." Mwina, pazifukwa zilizonse zomwe Atate wathu angasankhe, khalani ndi kapena mudzasankha pakati pa khamu lalikululi anthu 144,000 pazolinga zapadera. Tisaiwale, pali maudindo osiyanasiyana, udindo kumwamba. Pali Akerubi ndi Seraph, mwachitsanzo. Asanachimwe, mngelo yemwe adadzakhala Satana adatchulidwa mu Ezekieli ngati "kerubi wophimba," kutanthauza udindo wapadera kumwamba womwe mwachiwonekere... Werengani zambiri "
Kodi kuchuluka kwa a 144,000, omwe adasindikizidwa chizindikiro kuchokera m'mafuko khumi ndi awiri a Israeli, ndikophiphiritsa chabe, chifukwa zambiri m'buku la Chivumbulutso ndizophiphiritsa? (Chiv. 7: 4; 14: 1-3) Kodi a 144,000 ndi ndani? Osati nambala iliyonse yomwe imapezeka m'buku la Chivumbulutso ndiyachidziwikire kuti ndi yophiphiritsa. Tenga chitsanzo cha makalata a Khristu opita kumipingo isanu ndi iwiri ku Asia Minor. Pankhaniyi nambala seveni si yophiphiritsa. Panalidi mipingo isanu ndi iwiri yotere; ndipo kudzudzula kwake, kumene analankhula kwa asanu mwa iwo, ndi zenizeni, osabisala m'mawu ophiphiritsa. Kupatula apo, akanamvera bwanji chenjezo lake loti alape... Werengani zambiri "
Ndinali wa Mboni za Yehova kwa zaka 20+ ndipo ndidatumikira ngati Mkulu wazaka 12 .. Ndidachoka pomwe ndidazindikira kuti chiphunzitso cha Dipo sichinaphatikizepo komanso kuti chidaphunzitsidwa pang'ono ngati "Dipo" lolowera m'malo, kuti imakhudza aliyense kupatula omwe Sosaiti safuna kuti iphimbe ndipo sizikugwirizana ndi Aroma 5: 18… Ndidazindikira kuti "Lonjezo la Abrahamu" limayenda ngati ulusi wagolide m'malemba onse ndipo ife ndife Akhristu oloŵa nyumba a lonjezolo pamodzi ndi Abrahamu ndi mbewu yake yonse amene ali “ana a... Werengani zambiri "
Khamu Lalikulu ndiye kuti si Akhristu m'nthawi ino, koma ndi iwo omwe atatuluka mu Chisautso chachikulu ndiye ayamba kukondwerera madyerero a Misasa omwe ndi ophiphiritsa monga tawonera pa Zach 14: 16-21 Kumene ngakhale iwo omwe adamenyana ndi Yahweh adzafuna amayenera kuphunzira kumvera ndi kusula malupanga awo kuti akhale zida zosakulira Isiah 2, Mal 2…. Aima pamaso pa mpando wachifumu mzaka 1,000 zomwe ziweruzidwa ndipo panthawiyi zitsogolera kumadzi akasupe amoyo ndikusamba zovala zawo ndikuziyeretsa m'mwazi wa mwanawankhosa... Werengani zambiri "
zikomo ndasiya JW; s ndapita ku 7th day Adventist Zikuwoneka bwino kwambiri mpaka pano koma ndawerenga zambiri zawo
Pepani, nanga padziko lapansi mungachite bwanji izi mutaphunzira zomwe Baibo imaphunzitsadi?
Chiphunzitso cha 1914 chidachokera ndi a 7th day adventists ndipo amapembedza mtanda.
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Kuchera poto mpaka moto palibe chipembedzo chomwe chikutsatira Mulungu ndi Yesu
Mukusokoneza pakati pa 1844 ndi 1914.
Chiphunzitso cha 1914 chidachokera kwa mboni za J. Wa Seventh Day Adventist alibe chochita ndi izi.
Ndikhulupirira kuti chiphunzitsochi chinali choyambirira kuchokera kwa a Nelson Barbour, a SDA omwe adalimbikitsa Russell ndipo ndi chifukwa chomaliza chomwe chidalembedwera nthawi yaulosi. Mwa kukana chiwombolo chonse, a Barbour anakumana ndi njira ya 2 John 6-11 yotsutsakhristu, kutanthauza kuti njira yolosera yomwe Russell adayambapo ndikuti yadzetsa mboni zambiri ndi mavuto adayambitsidwa ndi satana.
Wawa, Kutsekera a 144000 kuchipembedzo chilichonse, osatinso a J Mboni, ndikufotokozera mfundo yomwe sinalipo kuyambira pomwe akhristu oyambilira adalumikizana ndi boma la Roma. Chiwerengerocho ndi chenicheni ndipo ndi chochepa mokwanira kupanga boma. Monga momwe zimakhalira pa pulaneti lathu lokongolali, omwe amapanga bungwe loyang'anira pafupifupi mayiko onse, maufumu ndi mafuko, ndi tinthu tating'onoting'ono, makamaka m'ma demokalase, okhudzana ndi olamulidwa. Ndiwo mawu anga oyamba okha. Momwemonso linali gulu laling'ono la ophunzira a Yesu omwe amayenera kupatsidwa Ufumu ndi Mulungu (Luka 12:32). Pambuyo pake adakhazikika ku Yerusalemu... Werengani zambiri "
[…] Nambala 144,000 yotchulidwa pa Chiv. 7: 4 ndi 14: 1 ndi yophiphiritsa ndipo siyiyenera kutengedwa ngati yeniyeni. Omwe "akulu [...]
Choonadi sichisintha. Nthawi iliyonse mukakhala ndi "kuwala kwatsopano" kapena kumvetsetsa kwatsopano kumatanthauza kuti anthu omwe amatsatira kumvetsetsa kwakale anali kusocheretsedwa kapena kutsatira zambiri zabodza. Chowonadi chimakhala chosasintha ndipo chidziwitso chaumulungu sichiyenera kukonzanso. Kusintha kosazindikirika mazana komwe bungwe la JW lapanga ndi umboni kuti palibe kudzoza kwaumulungu. Kunena zowona, CT Russell anali pafupi ndi chowonadi kuposa amuna omwe anatenga zomwe adayamba ndikuwonjezera malamulo ambirimbiri a Afarisi. Ndi onyenga chifukwa nawonso amachimwa. M'malo mwake timauzidwa kuti iwo omwe amati "ife... Werengani zambiri "
Tili oyamikira malingaliro anu, koma sizoyenera kuti ife tiimbe mlandu wina. Titha, inde, tiyenera kuweruza zochita ngati zabwino kapena zoipa. Komabe, zomwe zimalimbikitsanso munthu wina kusiyira Yehova kusankha. Onse omwe ali pamsonkhanowu amavomereza kuti Mau ouziridwa a Mulungu, Baibulo, ndi osalakwa. Ndikofunikira kuti aliyense apitirize kutenga nawo mbali pofufuza kafukufuku wa Baibulo ndikulimbikitsana. Popeza palibe chilichonse m'Malemba chonena kuti Petro ndi atumwi enawo "analakwitsa" pochita maere kuti asankhe munthu woti adzalowe m'malo... Werengani zambiri "
[…] Sitingatsimikizire motsimikiza kuti Chiv. 7: 4 akunena za anthu enieni. (Onani positi: 144,000 — Zenizeni kapena Chophiphiritsa) […]
[…] Omwe sangathe kuwerengedwa. Kodi 144,000 ndi nambala yeniyeni kapena yophiphiritsa? Tapanga kale mlandu wabwino kuti nambala iyi ikhale yophiphiritsa. Ngati izi sizikutsimikizirani za kuthekera, chitani […]
Malinga ndi ziwerengero zathu, panali 90,000 pachikumbutso cha 1925; onse otenga nawo mbali. Pakhala makumi ena masauzande kuyambira pamenepo. Panali Ayuda achi 8,000 omwe adabatizidwa kumayambiriro kwa ntchitoyi m'zaka 100 zoyambirira. Amitundu masauzande ambiri adatsata. Pakhala pali anthu osawerengeka amene akhala akukhulupirika kwa zaka zambiri. Ndi ziwerengero ngati izi, tingakhalebe osungabe lingaliro lopusa kuti 144,000 ndi nambala yeniyeni?
Ndinalemba my comment ndi tnkhuku kuwerenga twake wina… kuganiza komweko.
Meleti- Pali kafukufuku wowonjezera pamitu iyi yomwe ndikufuna kugawana nanu ndi tsambali. Chonde nditumizireni ku imelo yomwe yaperekedwa.
Mgwirizano Steve - Ndi mutu woyenera kuwunika, wogwirizana kwambiri ndi funso liti. Mawu ofotokozera za Ayuda. Adzadya Paskha Seder dzuwa litalowa Lolemba, pa Marichi 25, 2013. Buku la Kukambitsirana tidawerengetsa mu pulogalamu ya Sukulu yokhudza omwe amadya ndipo tidazindikira kuti Ayuda amakono amachita izi pa Nisani 15 pa kalendala yawo, yomwe imabwerera kwa Rabi Hillel II . Amaikanso Nisani 1 pa nthawi yapadziko lonse lapansi yolumikizana ndi mwezi ndi dzuwa. Izi zikadakhala maola 19 mphindi 51 Yogwirizana Nthawi Yonse (Greenwich, England)... Werengani zambiri "
Nkhani yoyambilira - Kodi Nisani 14 mu 2013 ndi liti? Malinga ndi matebulo a sayansi ya zakuthambo, mwezi watsopano wokhala pafupi ndi equinox ku Yerusalemu udachitika nthawi ya 9:51 masana nthawi yakomweko pa Marichi 11, 2013. Madzulo otsatira, mwezi unkakhala 6:33 pm, maola 20 ndi mphindi 41 kenako, ndipo 49 mphindi zochepa dzuwa litalowa pa Marichi 12. Ayuda adapeza kalendala yawo ku Babulo, komwe akatswiri azakuthambo / ansembe anali atapanga kalekale kadamsana wokhudzika ndi kudziwa bwino kayendedwe ka mwezi. Popeza nthawi zambiri kumakhala mitambo, kukugwa mvula kapenanso kugwa chipale chofewa ku Yerusalemu ansembe anzeru pa kalendala amadziwa izi... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikuganiza kuti izi zikubweretsa vuto lina, lomwe mwina Meleti angafune kutumiza: Kodi tiyenera kudya kangati?
Steve
Zokambirana zosangalatsa M'bale Meliti… !!!
Sizosangalatsa kuti a Jury akadali pano pazomaliza… ?!
Mwinanso chiwonetsero cha mphamvu yakuphunzitsira…? Pomaliza, titha kutsatira chikumbumtima chathu ndikupitiliza kupemphera kwa Atate wathu Wakumwamba kuti atitsogolere.
Zikomo pang'ono chifukwa chakuwululira izi poyera ... komanso kwa onse chifukwa cha malingaliro awo opatsa chidwi ...
Inde, pamene Paulo anafotokoza za Mgonero wa Ambuye, anthu onse m'mipingo ankayembekezera. Mawu ake oti "kudya mosayenera" anali modyera ndi kumwa, osati ziyeneretso zoyambira.
Ndani ayenera kudya ndi nkhani yosiyana ndi momwe angati ayenera kudya. Ngati 144,000 sizochitika zenizeni, ndiye kuti mfundo yoti anthu azidya pang'ono - ngakhale 12 mwa 17 miliyoni - siyikugwirizananso ndi malemba.
Ngakhale chiwerengero cha 144,000 ndi chenicheni, sizitanthauza kuti si Akhristu onse omwe ayenera kudya. Palibe chilichonse m'Baibulo chosonyeza kuti ndi okhawo omwe amapita kumwamba omwe amaloledwa kudya.
KHALIDWE NDI PANGANO LATSOPANO Sosaite yaphunzitsa kuti ndi 144,000 okha omwe akuyenera kutenga zizindikiro ndipo Yesu amangoyimira pakati ndikufera iwo. “Ndiye Mkhalapakati wa Atate wake wakumwamba, Yehova Mulungu, ndi mtundu wa Israyeli wauzimu, womwe uli ndi anthu 144,000 okha. Chitetezo Padziko Lonse Pansi pa "Kalonga Wamtendere" (1986) mas. 10-11 Momwemonso, Mose Wamkulu, "Yesu adadziwa kuti adzagula odzozedwawa ndi mwazi wake womwe, motero adawatchula onse pamodzi kuti ndi ake kapolo. ” Watchtower 1993 Meyi 1 p. 16 Yesu Khristu, si Mkhalapakati... Werengani zambiri "
Ndipo komabe komabe…. mphamvu yosaiwalika ya HS "sichichitira umboni ndi mzimu" - m'njira yosatsutsika - kwa iwo omwe Yehova amawasankha kuti akhale olowa nyumba limodzi ndi Khristu? Monga momwe Apolo adandikumbutsira, kuwona mtima kokha sikokwanira kupeza mphothoyo. Momwemonso, khama ndi khama ndizosakwanira, popeza chipulumutso chathu chimachokera mu chikhulupiriro, osati ntchito. Ndiye chofunikira ndi chiyani? - pamapeto pake ndikusankha kwa Yehova, ndipo yekhayo - kusankha koteroko kumadziwika ndi HS. Izi zikutanthauza kuti palibe munthu amene ayenera kuuza (kapena kuphunzitsa) mnzake... Werengani zambiri "
Gedalizah,
Kodi Akhristu ndi mbewu ya Abrahamu?
Steve
Mwaulemu…
Komanso lemba lina linagwiritsidwa ntchito popanda tanthauzo lake…
Aroma 8 onse akuwonetsa kusiyana pakati pa anthu akuthupi ndi amuna auzimu…
"Chifukwa chisamaliro cha thupi… udana ndi Mulungu, ... Chifukwa chake iwo amene atsata zofuna za thupi sangakondweretse Mulungu." Aroma 8: 6-8
Izi zikuwonetsa kuti palibe munthu amene ayenera kuuza (kapena kuphunzitsa) mnzake ngati ali ndi chiyembekezo chopita kumwamba kapena chofunikira kuti adye zizindikilo - iyi ndi ntchito ya Yehova yokha. Zowonadi sitingathe "kuganiza tokha" kukhulupirira kuti chiyembekezo chathu ndi chakumwamba - ngati HS sanatiuze mokweza komanso momveka bwino, sichinatiuze konse. 1) Kodi munthu ayenera kuuza kapena kuphunzitsa wina ngati ali ndi chiyembekezo chakumwamba kapena ayi? Inali gawo la uthenga wabwino wa Paulo. Paulo anali munthu. Ngati yankho la funso lanu ndi ayi, ndiye kuti Paulo anali kunja kwa mzere.... Werengani zambiri "
Komanso, podziwa wa Mboni yemwe “adabwera m'choonadi” chakumapeto kwa zaka za m'ma 1920, ndidamva kuti kuyambira cha m'ma 1900 kupita mtsogolo kudali - ngakhale apo - ena omwe amadzimva kuti ndi "osiyana" ndipo samakhala omasuka kutenga zizindikiro. Zonse zimawoneka ngati zovuta kuzilingalira ndi ndemanga zambiri patsamba lino.
Izi ndi zomwe zidandidabwitsanso, mpaka ndidawerengapo gawo labwino lazomwe zidasindikiza zakupita komanso nthawi imeneyo. Mukamvetsetsa kusintha kwa chiphunzitsochi ndikuwona kuti anthu amawerenga izi (zomwe sizikufotokoza chiphunzitsochi monga momwe tikumvera tsopano) muyamba kupeza malingaliro pazomwe mwina mukumvera chimodzimodzi ngati anali atangokhala ndi chidwi ndi IBSA.
Tizindikiranso Apolo kuti onse asanu ndi atatu a mamembala a Bungwe Lolamulira ali m'gululo latsopano. Awo akhoza kukhala poyambira pa chiphunzitso chokhazikikanso.
Koma mfundo yomalizirayi ikuwonetsa kuti okhulupilira chisanakhale Chikristu ali ndi chiyembekezo chokwanira chosadziwa za chiyembekezo chakumwamba (chifukwa chake osayesetsa kuyipeza) kuposa okhulupilira omwe ali m'gulu Lachikristu omwe amadziwa chiyembekezo chopita kumwamba koma amakhala kukhutitsidwa ndi kuphunzira kochokera pansi pa mtima kuti chiyembekezo chotere sichimamutsegulira. Zodzikongoletsera pang'ono, sichoncho?
Palibe zoyeserera kuti mumvetsetse?
Mwina kuwerenganso Chiheberi 11 kungasinthe ganizo limenelo. Atha kukhala kuti samadziwa ndendende zomwe apeza koma ndiyenera kutsutsana ndi gawo "lopanda kuyesayesa".
Ndife oyamba kunena kuti kudzipereka palokha sikokwanira (Rom 10: 2).
Luka 12: 48 ikuwonetsa kuti iwo omwe sanamvetsetse zofuna za mbuye sadzalandira mphotho yonse, kapena kumenyedwa ndi kuwonongedwa kwakukulu.
Izi zimapangitsa kuti akhristu akhale ndi chiyembekezo chodzakhala ndi moyo wosatha kumwamba. 🙂
Steve
Kungolingalira kapena kuyesa koyesa (mwina atapatsidwa chilango ndi apolisi a thoguht): Chiwerengero cha omwe akudya chimakula ndi mazana ochepa pachaka. Koma ngati malingaliro opezeka pano ndi kwina ali opangidwa ndi kuwongolera kotsogozedwa ndi mzimu, komwe nthawi ndi nthawi kumapita mmwamba kupyola bungwe m'malo mokhala pansi, kumabweretsa kubwereza kawiri chaka chilichonse, ndiye tili ndi 2013 - 24,000; 2014 - 48,000; 2015 - 96,000 akufika pa Dis 6, 2015, chikumbutso cha 40th chokhazikitsidwa ndi Govering Body yoyang'anira bungweli. Kenako tonse tidzakumana ndi kubwera kwa 2016... Werengani zambiri "
Mutha kuganiziranso kuti chiwerengerocho chidayamba kuchepa pakati pa zaka za m'ma 30 pomwe koyamba kudanenedwa kuti gulu lalikulu silidapite kumwamba. Chiwerengerocho chinayambiranso kukwera mu 2006 pomwe masiku odula a 30 adasiyidwa.
Mzimu wowongolera kapena mphamvu ya malingaliro a anthu?
Ngati tikufufuza kuthekera kuti chikhulupiriro chathu pazotsatira ziwiri zosiyana za okhulupilira (mwachitsanzo, moyo wosafa wakumwamba ndi moyo wosatha padziko lapansi) mwina sichingakhale cholondola, tifunika kupeza tanthauzo lokwaniritsa zomwe Yesu ananena za Yohane M'batizi yemwe ndi "amene wamng'ono mu Ufumu wa Kumwamba amkulira iye ”? Takhala tikumvetsetsa nthawi zonse kuti Yesu pano akuphunzitsa kuti anthu omwe adamwalira asanakhale ndi mwayi wokhulupirira mphamvu yakuwombola ya magazi ake sangakhale oyenera kulandira mphotho ya moyo muufumu wakumwamba. Izi zikuwoneka... Werengani zambiri "
Imeneyo si nkhani. Yesu adati Abrahamu, Isaki ndi Yakobo adzakhalakonso ku Matthew 8: 11. Yesu anali kufanizira iwo obadwa kwa akazi, yemwe ali aliyense tsopano, ndi iwo muufumu, omwe adzakhala aliyense nthawi imeneyo. Mfundo yake inali yongonena kuti wamkulu kwambiri pakadali pano ali wochepera kuposa watsopano.
Steve
Steve adandimenya mpaka izi nditangoyankha. Ananena motsimikiza, koma mwina ndingathe kuwonjezera pa izi ndi umboni kuti izi ndi zomwe Yesu anali kunena. (Mat. 11:11) Indetu ndinena kwa inu, Mwa onse obadwa mwa akazi sanatulutsidwa wamkulu woposa Yohane Mbatizi; koma munthu amene ali wocheperako mu ufumu wa kumwamba ndi wamkulu kuposa iye. (Mat. 14: 10-13) Ndipo anatumiza mthenga kuti Yohane adulidwe m'ndende. 11 Ndipo adabweretsa mutu wake... Werengani zambiri "
"Koma ndikukuuzani kuti ambiri ochokera kummawa ndi kumadzulo adzabwera kudzakhala patebulo ndi Abrahamu, Isake ndi Yakobo mu ufumu wakumwamba…" Mateyu 8:11
Zikumveka ngati zikugwirizana ndi 2 anthu omwe amayenda tsamba lotchedwa ANOINTED JW.ORG
(Yesaya 65: 20) "Sipadzakhalanso khanda la masiku ochepa kuchokera pamenepo, kapena nkhalamba yosakwanitsa masiku ake; chifukwa munthu adzafa ngati mwana, ngakhale ali wa zaka zana; Ndipo wochimwayo, ngakhale atakhala zaka zana, amadzudzulidwa.
Zoipa sizingalekeredwe kwa nthawi yayitali ndi Khristu kukhala Mfumu komanso Woweruza.
Izi ndi zowona. Koma pazochitika zilizonse (kuphatikiza yanu) anthu onse sadzakhala opanda chimo kuchokera tsiku 1 ya ulamuliro wa chaka cha 1000. Zachidziwikire kuti izi sizingatanthauze kuti anthu adzakanthidwa chifukwa cha kuchimwa kwawo koyamba atapatsidwa mkono. Chifukwa chake Khristu monga woweruza mwachionekere akuwonetsa ngati munthu sanamvekedwe, ndipo ngati ndi choncho mwayi wake wamoyo wamuyaya udzachotsedwa pamenepa. Kodi simukuvomereza?
Kodi sizowona kuti Rev 20 akuwonetsa zochitika Padziko Lapansi, kapena mwakuwona kwapadziko lapansi? Ndipo chihema cha Mulungu chikutsika Kumwamba, ayi? Masalmo 37: 9 Pakuti ochita zoipa adzadulidwa: Koma iwo akuyembekeza Yehova, iwowa adzalandira dziko lapansi. 10 Patsala kanthawi kochepa, woipa sadzakhalakonso. Udzayang'ana pamene anali kukhala, ndipo sadzapezekapo. Chibvumbulutso 20: 5 (Otsala a akufa sanakhalanso ndi moyo kufikira kudzatha zaka chikwi.) Ichi ndi choyamba... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikulephera kumvetsetsa malingaliro anu. Inde, oyipa adzawonongedwa, koma izi sizingakwaniritsidwe kufikira zitadutsa zaka masauzande, pomwe ambiri oipa amakhalabe. Munthawi imeneyi akhristu amawalamulira.
Pambuyo pa zaka masauzande ndi chiweruziro, aja omwe si Akhristu omwe adzaukitsidwe adzaukitsidwa.
Palibe mwanjira iliyonse yomwe mudawonetsera kukhalapo kwa gulu lachiwiri la Akhristu.
Steve
Kodi akhristu onse adzalamulira ndi mafumu ndi ansembe a Mulungu - kwazaka 1000 mpaka muyaya?
Adzalamulira ndani? Anthu opanda chikhulupiriro komanso osalungama? Ayi.
Chifukwa chake pali magulu awiri. (Nthawiyo chipangizochi chimanyoza chipulumutso chomwe amalandira.)
Werengani Chivumbulutso 20. Alidi oyipa omwe amawalamulira, chifukwa kumapeto kwa nthawi imeneyo oyipa amapitilira Akhristu ndipo amawonongedwa.
Kwa muyaya, adzalamulira omwe adapatsidwa moyo omwe sanali achikristu.
Steve
Sindikutsimikiza kuti "gawo" ndi loipa kuposa "gulu".
(James 2: 4) muli ndi magawano pakati panu ..
Maganizo osiyanasiyana ndikukupatsani, koma kugwiritsa ntchito "gulu" pagulu pano nthawi zambiri kumakhala ndi tanthauzo loipa, ndipo zinali choncho mu mpingo wa mzaka zoyambilira.
Pamene Yesu adapanga pangano ndi Olowa Ufumu monga omwe adadya nawo pachikumbutso choyamba (asanamwalire), adati: (Luka 22: 28-30) “Komabe, inu ndinu amene munakhala ndi Ine m'mayesero anga; 29 ndipo ndikupanga pangano ndi inu, monga Atate wandipangira pangano la ufumu, 30 kuti mudye ndi kumwa kugome kwanga mu ufumu wanga, ndi kukhala pa mipando yachifumu kuweruza mafuko khumi ndi awiri a Israyeli. Yesu sanali mkhalapakati wa pangano losatha lomwe Atate ake anapangana naye. Ngakhalenso kuchita kwake ngati mkhalapakati pankhaniyi sikukhala ndi... Werengani zambiri "
Ndi ulemu Urbanus…
pogwiritsa ntchito liwu loti, "momveka bwino", potanthauzira malembo, makamaka patsambali… !!! ???
Tonsefe tikuwoneka kuti tili ndi malingaliro angapo pa chiphunzitsochi… ndichifukwa chake tili pano…
Ndidayankhula kale zanga… koma zikuwoneka kwa ine kuti tonsefe tikufunitsitsa kuti, “Chabwino…!”…?
Kamodzinso mpaka kulimbana, ”m'bale wokondedwa
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Zikomo, saraybach54. Words Mawu ena osakira ndi mawu othandiza kusamala ndi "mwachidziwikire", "zikuwonekeratu", "mosakaika" komanso "mosakaika". Awa ndi mawu achizungu akale omwe ali ndi malo ake mchilankhulo chawo, koma chifukwa chogwiritsa ntchito pafupipafupi m'mabuku athu kuti atulutse zonena zabodza zochirikiza kumvetsetsa kwatsopano komwe pambuyo pake kudasiyidwa chifukwa cha "kukonzanso" kwinanso, komwe kumakhalanso adayambitsidwa kugwiritsa ntchito limodzi la mawu awa, tsopano ali ndi katundu wolemera, wopanda tanthauzo wamalingaliro. Ndibwino kuti muwapewe pano mukamayambitsa mzere wazolingalira. Ndizosangalatsa kuchita mawu... Werengani zambiri "
kuchokera ku WOL…manambala awa akulamulidwa... mukafuna Yehova (Just m’Baibulo) it zifika pay 620 nthawi
Yesu (basi mu Mabaibulo) amabwera chimodzimodzi nthawi 620.
*Ayite: awa ndi manambala ochokera kwa ONSE ndi Kumasulira Baibulo that Webusaiti ya JW.orgt NDI "j" ali m'munsimu. “Yehova” “Yesu” Chifukwa Chiyani???
mwachiwonekere 4,790
mosakayika 1,223
kusintha 71
zowonjezera 81
popanda kukayika 328
zikuwonekera 624
Ndiyenera kukonza……zinambala zomwe zaperekedwa mu positi yanga yomaliza ndi zachinyengo ……ndipo zimatsimikizira chinyengo cha JW.org….chifukwa manambalawa ndi manambala a MASAMBA omwe mawuwo amapezeka m'mabuku. Tsamba 5 la masamba 4,790 a "mwachiwonekere". Zomwe zimapangitsa kuti mlanduwo ukhale woipitsitsa. Komanso ponena za Yehova ndi Yesu... M’kudzitchinjiriza kwanga (osati kuti ndikusowa) akunyenga ponena “zotsatira” za mawu amene akufufuzidwa. Chinyengo chifukwa sitikuyang'ana... Werengani zambiri "
Ndizowona kuti kugwiritsa ntchito mawu oti "momveka bwino" komanso "mwachiwonekere" kungakupezereni ntchito ku dipatimenti yolemba, koma sizikhala ndi kulemera komweko pokhapokha umboni utaperekedwa. Tiyeni tiyambe ndi kunena kuti zomwe zachitika pa Mat 25: 34-40 zimafotokoza za a Mboni za Yehova omwe amathandizira odzozedwa pakati pawo potsatira malangizo awo pantchito yolalikira. Onani mawu a Yesu mosadziwiratu. Chifukwa chiyani angafotokozere zomwe amachita ngati zachifundo wamba ngati kwenikweni akunena za kuthandiza ndi lamulo lachikhristu lolalikira uthenga wabwino? Komanso chifukwa chiyani... Werengani zambiri "
Monga Apolo akunenera, kumasulira kwathu konse kwa fanizo la "nkhosa ndi mbuzi" kutengera tanthauzo lomwe timapereka ku mawu oti "abale anga". Pophunzitsa kuti izi zikungotanthauza gulu la Mkhristu wokhala ndi chiyembekezo chakumwamba, timakakamizika kunena kuti nkhosazo si za gulu ili - osati "abale ake". Komabe, taganizirani mawu ake omwe okhudza yemwe ali m'bale wake: (Mateyu 12: 48-50).?.??. Poyankha adati kwa yemwe akumuuza kuti: "Amayi anga ndani, ndipo abale anga ndani? ? ” 49 Ndipo anatambasula dzanja lake pa ophunzira ake, nati: “Taonani!... Werengani zambiri "
Urbanus,
Mu Mateyu 25 Yesu kawiri akuti "awa," polankhula za abale ake ndi ana. Kodi ndi pati pamene palembedwa kuti “awa” kuti Yesu agwiritse ntchito mawuwa potchula iwo ngati ali osiyana ndi nkhosa imodzi?
Steve
Madzi amphesa kupewa kumwa mowa. Chodabwitsa ndikulingalira chifukwa chidachitika kanayi pachaka - ndipo kudya matzoh si chinthu cha Presbyterian - ngakhale "gulu la akulu (oyang'anira)" liri.
Ndiye kodi Apresbateria akadya mkate woyera ndi kumwa msuzi wamphesa posonyeza chikhulupiriro angawavomereze kupita kumwamba, ndipo Mboni zachikhristu zobatizidwa zosadya nawo ngati "ana a Chipangano cha Ufumu" zimawakana chipulumutso?
Re: Kodi ma Presbateria kudya mkate woyera ndi kumwa madzi a mphesa posonyeza kuti akuchikhulupirira, ndipo a Mboni za Yehova omwe sanabatizidwe chifukwa chosadya nawo “ana a Pangano la Ufumu” angawakane chipulumutso?
Sindinanenepo kuti kusadya kumakana munthu kupulumutsidwa, ndipo ndinanena kuti zizindikiritso si mtundu wina wa kuthumwa kotero kuti kudya kumakhala tikiti yakumwamba.
(Chibvumbulutso 2:23)… mipingo yonse idzadziwa kuti ine ndine amene ndisanthula impso ndi mitima, ndipo ndidzakupatsani inu yense monga mwa ntchito zanu.
Tithokoze Apolo-
Pofotokoza "moyo wanga wachipembedzo cha Calvin," ndinadya msuzi wa mphesa wa Welch ndi mikate yaying'ono yoyera chifukwa ndinabadwira ngati mmodzi mwa abale "osankhidwa" a Khristu.
Koma nditaphunzira za cholinga cha Yehova chowombola anthu kudzera mu nsembe ya dipo ya magazi a mwana wankhosa, sindinadzionenso ngati “wosankhidwa”
Yesu analamula kuti adye ndi kumwa magazi ake ndi mnofu wake unaperekedwa kupitilira chaka chimodzi asanamwalire. Chifukwa chake zinali zophiphiritsa.
Zachidziwikire kuti ndi zophiphiritsa. Palibe zotsutsana ndi ine pamenepo. Koma sizitanthauza kuti titha kuwapatula ngati osafunikira chifukwa ndi ophiphiritsa. Pali zosiyana ziwiri apa: 1) Mkate ndi vinyo ndizo thupi ndi thupi la Khristu. 2) Mkate ndi vinyo ndizophiphiritsa chabe chifukwa chake ngati timatsatira lamulo la Yesu kuti timukumbukire potenga nawo izi sichinthu chachikulu. Zonsezi sizingakhale zoona. Ngati mwatsimikiza kuti chakudyacho sichikukhudzani ndiye kuti ndiye chisankho chanu. Ndilibe chikhumbo... Werengani zambiri "
Ngakhale timagwirizana chimodzi, tafika pang'ono. "Kodi pali mipingo 7, akulu 24, zolengedwa zinayi, ndi okwera pamahatchi 4 miliyoni?" Kuloleza ena kuti akwaniritse chinthu chomaliza, ndani anganene zosiyana ndi inde. Kodi gawo limodzi mwa magawo atatu a angelo lagwa? Mmodzi pali Mulungu m'modzi ndi Atate? Izi zikunenedwa, ndafufuza moyo wanga wachikalvini kwazaka pafupifupi makumi asanu pankhani yoti ndani amadya zizindikilo. Poyambirira ndimapempherera chowonadi, ndipo chowonadi ndidachipeza. Popeza sindikuyembekeza kukhala pampando wachifumu ndi Yesu ndipo... Werengani zambiri "
Ngakhale ndichowona kuti kudya mkate mwachizindikiro sichinthu chamtundu wina uliwonse kuti tisunge miyoyo yathu, komabe ndi limodzi mwa malamulo achindunji omwe Ambuye wathu watipatsa.
Koma palibe amene ayenera kukukakamizani kuti muyenera kudya nawo ngati sizili mumtima mwanu, monganso sikulakwa kuyesa munthu wina aliyense kuti sayenera kutsatira lamulolo.
Zowonadi zomwezi zitha kunenedwa za ubatizo. Mkati mwake sichimasunga ngati sitiyesa kusunga lamulo la Khristu. Chimodzimodzi ndi kulalikira. Koma malingaliro athu pazinthu zochepa izi zomwe Yesu adawalankhulitsa ndizomwe zili gawo la chomwe chiri chokhala mkhristu, ndipo onse ali ndi udindo wawo payokha kuchita mbali m'miyoyo yathu kuti atipenyetse zomwe tili mdziko lapansi.
Chipsinjo chotsimikizira chili pa iwe, m'bale wanga wokondedwa. Zikuwoneka kuti pali chifukwa chilichonse chokhulupirira dongosolo lomwe lidapangidwa ndi Mulungu kuti liombole anthu onse. 1 kapena 12 kapena 24 zonse zimagwira ntchito kwa ine, koma buku la Chivumbulutso limatsimikiza pa 12x12x1000 mpaka zitatsimikiziridwa mwanjira ina. Zomwe zili zokongola pa chiphiphiritso cha buku la Chibvumbulutso 7 zikuwakhalira Yosefe ndi Levi monga ana akuthupi a Israeli, chifukwa chake, ngati ana auzimu auzimu osankhidwa mu fuko lililonse ndi mtundu wa anthu kuyambira pa Pentekosite mu 33 CE Kupatula apo, ndi Yehova yemweyo amene adapanga mitundu ndi mayiko... Werengani zambiri "
Ngati katundu waumboni ali pa ine ndiye kuti payenera kukhala chifukwa china chokhulupirira kuti kagwiritsidwe ntchito ka manambala mu Chivumbulutso ndiwowonadi. Ngati sizili choncho ndiye kuti katundu waumboni uli pachipani chomwe chimanenetsa kuti pankhaniyi ndiye zenizeni. (Chibvumbulutso 1: 1) .. adatumiza mngelo wake ndikumupatsa zizindikiro ... (Chivumbulutso 1:20) Ponena za chinsinsi chopatulika cha nyenyezi zisanu ndi ziwiri zomwe mudaziwona kudzanja langa lamanja, komanso [za] zisanu ndi ziwiri zoikapo nyali zagolidi: Nyenyezi zisanu ndi ziwirizo zitanthauza angelo a... Werengani zambiri "
Ndiyenera kuvomerezana ndi Apollo pa izi. Popeza vumbulutso ladzaza ndi zizindikilo ndi zofunikira, titha kungonena motsimikiza kuti nambala ndi yeniyeni ngati a) yalongosoledwa momveka bwino motero, kapena b) sipangakhale njira ina yoti mungamvetsetsere, kapena c) kuchuluka kwake ndi amapezeka kwina kulikonse m'Malemba momwe momveka bwino kuti ndi zenizeni. A 144,000 akhoza kukhala enieni kapena akhoza kukhala ophiphiritsa, kapena monga Urbanus akunenera, atha kukhala onse awiri. Koma kunena kuti china chitha kukhala chosiyana kwambiri ndi kunena kuti zilidi choncho. Udindo wakale... Werengani zambiri "
Komanso chowonjezera pamawu anga am'mbuyomu, sindikuganiza kuti kukongola kwaphiphiritso kumadalira kutanthauzira kwenikweni. Monga mukuwonetsera Urbanus, ambiri mwa manambalawa adakhazikitsidwa mwakuthupi. Ndikuwona kukongola pofotokozera dongosolo lauzimu potengera kuchuluka kwa kukwaniritsidwa komwe kudawonetsedwa kale pakapangidwe kocheperako. Koma zikuwoneka ngati zochepetsera Mulungu ngati tinganene kuti chifukwa chake amayenera kukhazikitsa dongosolo lake laulemerero pa ziwerengero zenizeni zomwe zidagwiritsidwa ntchito ngati choyimira. Sindingaganize Mulungu akunena kuti "pepani inu... Werengani zambiri "
Malingaliro a positi - "zenizeni kapena zophiphiritsa" amalephera kuzindikira kuti Yehova adapanga dongosolo lauzimu ili kuyambira pachiyambi kuti akhale onse awiri. Magawo 24 a unsembe wa Alevi adapangidwa muutumiki wawo - Luka 1. ndi: (Ahebri 7: 11-14) 11 Ngati, tsono, ungwiro udalidi kudzera mwaunsembe wa Alevi, (chifukwa ndi izi anthu adapatsidwa Chilamulo,) kodi padzafunikanso chiani kuti wansembe wina adzawuke monga mwa chilamulo cha Melkizedeki koma sananenedwe kuti ndi cha Aroni? 12 Popeza kuti unsembe ukusinthidwa, pakubwera... Werengani zambiri "
Urbanus
Chifukwa chake chitsutsano chanu ndikuti pomwe chiwerengero cha 144,000 chidasankhidwa kukhala chiphiphiritso, palinso chiwerengero cha mafumu ndi ansembe. Kodi ndimamvetsetsa bwino?
Kodi muli ndi umboni uliwonse wa m'Malemba? Ndalephera kupeza chilichonse mu Luka 1 kapena Ahebri 7, koma mwina ndikusowa mfundo.
Apolo
Mfundo yabwino. Inde, ochepa ndi ochepa. Pakakhala chinthu chimodzi chamabiliyoni omwe adzaukitsidwe ndikufunika kuwerengetsa pawokha, munthu angaganize kuti ngakhale mamiliyoni ndi ansembe ochepa adzakhala ochepa.
Chiwerengerocho chikhoza kukhala chophiphiritsa chabe, koma ngati wina angayang'ane magulu a ansembe pansi pa lamulo lakale, ochepa okha, ana a Aroni (akulu-ansembe) adaloledwa kulowa m'chihema chamkati. Kotero izi kwa ine zikuwoneka kuti zikusonyeza kuti padzakhala ochepa okha poyerekeza ndi khamu lalikulu lomwe lidzalamulira monga mafumu ndi ansembe. Paul adanenanso mu Aroma kuti awa amayenera kuti ngati Khristu azunzika monga iye kuti apeze mphothoyi.
Kukhala ufumu wa ansembe inali lonjezo ku mtundu wonse wa Israeli, osati anthu ochepa okha.
Meleti, Pozindikira izi zimapitirira pang'ono pamalopo, ena amalingalira za tsogolo lanu: 1) Zomwe tikuwerenga zokhudza 144,000 ndizomwe Yohane adamva, osati zomwe adaziwona. Kodi sizotheka kuti khamu lalikulu ndi iye akuwona gululi lomwe likumufotokozera? 2) Mngelo akuti asavulaze dziko lapansi mpaka atasindikizidwa antchito a Mulungu wathu. Izi zikutanthauza kuti aliyense amene ali mtumiki wa Mulungu ali m'gulu lino. 3) Nambala 12 ndi nambala yophiphiritsa ndipo zomwe tafotokozazi... Werengani zambiri "
Steve Zosangalatsa, koma ndikuganiza kuti payenera kukhala kusiyana pakati pamagulu. Khamu lalikulu ndi omwe atuluka chisautso chachikulu. A 144K akuwoneka kuti akuimira onse omwe akulamulira ndi Kristu. Mwina chifukwa chake khamu lalikulu ndi gawo laling'ono la 144K. Ndikudziwa kuti zikumveka zotsutsana ndi ziwerengerozo, koma tikalolera kuti anthu 144,000 akhale nambala yophiphiritsa ndiye kuti singakhale othandiza. Chiwerengero cha 144,000 monga kuphatikiza kwakukulu kwa 12x12x1000 chikusonyeza kukwaniritsidwa kwamakonzedwe onse. Komabe iwo amene akukumana ndi chisautso chachikulu adzafuna kutsimikizika... Werengani zambiri "
Apolo, sindikukhulupirira kuti "ndabwera" ndiye kuwerenga kwabwino kwambiri. Ndikutenga nawo gawo, mwina Yohane akuwawona akutuluka. Kutenga nawo mbali ndi bizinesi yovuta. Sitipeza chisonyezo chilichonse chosindikiza chomwe chikuyenera kumaliza. M'malo mwake, mngeloyo amawoneka kuti akuyambitsa kusindikiza, makamaka kutengera nthawi. Chifukwa chake a 144,000 adzakhala mpingo wamoyo, koma osati mpingo m'mbiri yonse, ukhale wa iwo omwe ali padziko lapansi kumapeto kapena onse akadzaukitsidwa. Sindikudziwa momwe mukufotokozera.... Werengani zambiri "
Moni Steve Ndikuvomereza kuti kusankhidwa kwanga kwa anthu 144,000 ngati mpingo wonse kuyambira nthawi ya zana loyamba kumadalira ziphunzitso zathu zamakono. Uku ndi mwambo womwe ndimayesetsa kupewa, zikomo kwambiri chifukwa chondigwira. Ndikutha kuwona mfundo yanu kuti masomphenyawa atha kunena za okhawo osindikizidwa nthawi yakumapeto. Ndikukhulupirira kuti mukuvomereza kuti akhristu a m'zaka 1 zoyambirira adasindikizidwa ndi mzimu woyera (2Co 1:21, 22; Aef. 1:13, 14; 4:30), koma mukutanthauza kuti a 144,000 samafotokoza kuchuluka kwathunthu... Werengani zambiri "
Apolo,
Ndingayamikire malingaliro anu pa zopangidwadi. Inenso ndili ndi malingaliro ofanana.
Cholinga changa palemba chimakhazikitsidwa pazinthu ziwiri. Mmodzi, Rev. 4: 1 akuti zinthu zomwe zalongosoledwa zili m'tsogolo. Chachiwiri, kusindikiza kwina komwe kumanenedwa m'malemba kumawoneka kuti kukuchitika pakutembenuka, pomwe iyi ili kwa iwo omwe ali kale antchito a Mulungu.
Ndilibe malingaliro omwe amatsutsana ndi malingaliro anu, sindikutsimikiza kuti ndizoyenera lembalo.
Steve
Ndi ulemu Steve…? Khamu lalikulu limawonedwa ndi Yohane kumwamba - atayimirira pamaso pa mpando wachifumu - atapulumutsidwa kale ku chisautso chachikulu… (Chibvumbulutso 7: 9,10) Pali kutchulidwa kwa gulu la anthu amitundu yambiri, omwe adzalamulire monga Mafumu ndi Ansembe padziko lonse lapansi, mu Chibvumbulutso 5: 9,10, omwe akuyimba nyimbo, mawu omwe adalembedwera… (motsutsana ndi chinsinsi)… koma izi zingowononga madzi kwambiri… !!! ?? ? Komabe, a 144,000 akadali pano pomwe pamphumi pawo adasindikizidwa… (Rev 7: 3) ndikukhala padziko lapansi kwakanthawi… (Chibvumbulutso 9: 4) Nthawi ina yomwe adzawonekere, iwo... Werengani zambiri "
Saray,
Apanso, sindinatsimikizidwe ndi lingaliro ili, pazifukwa zingapo, kuphatikiza zolemba zanga kwa Apolo. Monga tafotokozera pamwambapa, sizikuwonekeratu kuti apulumutsidwa kale ku chisautso mu Chivumbulutso 7.
Steve
Mwaulemu Steve…
Mukuwerenga bwanji mavesi 10 pamenepo…?
Afuula ndi mawu okweza, "Chipulumutso kwa Mulungu wathu…"
Kodi angatsimikize bwanji kuti ngati adzapulumutsidwa…?
Baibulo limanena pafupipafupi za Akhristu omwe adapulumutsidwa pakadali pano. Sindiwona izi ngati zovuta.
Steve
Zodabwitsa ndizakuti ... zikuwoneka kuti palibe umboni uliwonse, m'lemba lililonse lotchula a 144,000, zakulamulira kwawo ngati mafumu ndi ansembe pazaka chikwi…
Komanso, munthu akawona kuchuluka kwa Akhristu odzozedwa masiku ano, ayenera kudzifunsa kuti zingatheke bwanji kuti m'nthawi ya atumwi kunalibe pafupifupi Akhristu okhulupirika a 144,000 ndipo ambiri mwa iwo amangowonekera padziko lapansi tsopano.
Ndi choncho. M'malo mwake, kungogwira ntchito kuchokera manambala obatizidwa omwe Baibulo limatipatsa kenako ndikulola kuchuluka kwa otembenuka mtima pakati pa amitundu, ndikuwonjezera kuchuluka kwa kubadwa komanso kuti mpatuko sunakhumudwitse mpingo wonse kwakanthawi atumwi atamwalira, Titha kuwonetsa mosavuta masamu kuti chiwerengerocho chidadzazidwa mkati mwa zaka 100 kuchokera pakufa kwa Khristu.
Ndikukhulupirira zomwe Russell adanena. "Oitanidwa ambiri koma ochepa amasankhidwa". Akhristu ambiri ndi odzozedwa koma apambane mpikisano wokhala 144,000