Zikuwoneka zowonjezereka kuti zolembedwazo zimatengera mtundu ndi fayilo kuti asawerenge mawu apatsogolo ndi tanthauzo la Baibulo. "Funso Lachiwiri Lochokera kwa Owerenga" (tsamba 30) m'magazini yaposachedwa ya Nsanja ya Olonda ndi chitsanzo chimodzi. Kusanthula akauntiyo mu 11th mutu wa buku la Chibvumbulutso, umabwera ndi chidziwitso chatsopano:
Mboni ziwirizi zikuyimira abale odzozedwa omwe akutsogolera omwe akuchokera ku 1914 mpaka 1916 anali a Russell ndi amzake [osati kapolo wokhulupirikayo] kenako kuchokera ku 1916 kupita ku 1919, Rutherford ndi amzake 1919 [kapolo wokhulupirika].
Miyezi ya 42 / 3 ½ ikuyimira nthawi kuyambira nthawi yophukira kwa 1914 mpaka kumangidwa kwa Bungwe Lolamulira.
Miyezi ya 42 ndi nthawi yomwe abale odzozedwa omwe akutsogolera (mwachitsanzo, Bungwe Lolamulira adalalikira) atavala ziguduli.
Imfa ya mboni ziwiri imayimira kuphatikizidwa kwa Bungwe Lolamulira.
Masiku a 3½ akuimira nthawi yomwe amangidwa.
Nthawi kuyambira 1914 mpaka 1919 ikuyimira kuyeretsedwa kwa kachisi. ("Mboni ziwiri" zikunenera sizinena chilichonse chokhudza kuyeretsedwa kwa kachisi.)
Izi zikufotokozera mwachidule. Zikuwoneka zosavuta; mwina ngakhale zomveka pansi pa mayeso onyansa. Komabe, ngati wowerenga agwiritsa ntchito kuzindikira, ngati wowerenga awerenga nkhani yonseyo, pamakhalanso malingaliro ena.
Kuti pali zambiri zomwe zatsalira mu "chowonadi chatsopano" ichi chikuwonekera chifukwa chakuti nkhaniyi ili ndi mawu a 500 okha. Chaputala cha Chibvumbulutso 11 chili ndi mawu opitilira 600. Tiyeni tiwone zomwe zatsalira ndikuwona ngati zingakhudze chilichonse chokhudzana ndi kumasulira uku.
Vesi 2 likuti mzinda wopatulika, Yerusalemu, umaponderezedwa ndi amitundu kwa miyezi ya 42. Popeza timaphunzitsanso kuti nthawi zoikika za amitundu ziziwoneka ndi kuponderezedwa kwa Yerusalemu ndikuti zikutha mu 1914, wina amadabwa kuti chifukwa chiyani kupondapondako kumapitilira zaka zina zitatu ndi theka.
Kodi zikutanthauza chiyani kuti amalalikira atavala ziguduli? Izi zikutanthauza nthawi yachisoni, koma palibe umboni womwe Bungwe Lolamulira linapereka panthawi yankhondoyo itatha ndipo pambuyo pake nkhondo idawonetsa chisoni kapena kulira.
Nkhaniyi imanena za Numeri 16: 1-7, 28-35 ndi 1 Mafumu 17: 1; 18: 41-45 potchula mitengo iwiri ya azitona ndi zoyikapo nyali ziwiri za Chiv. 11: 4. Izi zimachita zizindikilo ngati Mose ndi Eliya. Koma nchifukwa ninji nkhaniyi ikukhala ndi Malemba Achihebri osagwiritsa ntchito mawu aposachedwa kwambiri - zaka 60 zokha Yohane asanalembe mawu awa - zomwe zimakhudza mwachindunji Mose ndi Eliya. Yesu adawonekera nawo m'masomphenya okhudzana ndi kubweranso kwake. Mwina timanyalanyaza izi pobisalira chifukwa sizikugwirizana ndi kufunikira kwathu kothandizira chiphunzitso cha 1914 popeza tsopano tavomereza kuti Yesu sanabwerere mchaka chimenecho ndipo sanabwererenso. (Mt: 16: 27-17: 9)
Chotsatira tili ndi Rev. 11: 5,6:
“. . .Ngati wina akufuna kuwachitira zoipa, moto umatuluka m'kamwa mwawo ndi kunyeketsa adani awo. Ngati wina angafune kuwachitira zoipa, ayenera kuphedwa motere. 6 Awa ali ndi ulamuliro wakutseka thambo kuti mvula isamagwe masiku a kunenera kwawo, ndipo ali nawo ulamuliro pamadzi kuwasandutsa magazi ndi kumenya dziko lapansi ndi mliri wamtundu uliwonse monga angafune. ”(Re 11: 5, 6)
Zochitika zodabwitsa! Mawu amphamvu chotere! Ndi chithunzi bwanji. Chifukwa chake tiyenera kudzifunsa ngati izi ndi zomwe Bungwe Lolamulira limachita kuyambira 1914 mpaka 1919, umboni wa mbiri uli kuti? Zikuganiza kuti mkati mwa zaka izi anali mu ukapolo wa Babulo Wamkulu. Kutengera ndi mavesi awa, sizikuwoneka kuti mboni ziwirizo zinali mu ukapolo wa aliyense, komanso sizinali zosavomerezeka momwe amafunikira kuyeretsedwa.
Rev. 11: 7 ikuti adaphedwa ndi chilombo chomwe chimatuluka m'phompho. Mabuku athu amaphunzitsa kuti chilombo ichi ndi United Nations, chomwe chidayamba nkhondo yachiwiri yapadziko lonse lapansi, osati nkhondo yoyamba yapadziko lonse lapansi. Omwe adatsogola anali League of Nations, koma sizidakhalepo mpaka 1920; Tachedwa kwambiri kutenga nawo mbali pazomwe akuti zakwaniritsidwa.
Malinga ndi Rev. 11: 9, 10, "anthu ndi mafuko ndi manenedwe ndi mayiko ... akusangalala ... ndi kukondwerera ndi… kutumizirana mphatso wina ndi mnzake" chifukwa mamembala a Bungwe Lolamulira ali m'ndende. Kodi pali umboni wanji kuti pali amene anazindikira kunja kwa omwe akukhudzidwa mwachindunji?
Vesi 11 likuti adakhalanso ndi moyo (atamasulidwa m'ndende akuganiza kuti) ndipo "mantha akulu adagwera iwo omwe adawaona." Pali umboni wanji kuti mayiko adachita mantha atamasulidwa kwa Rutherford ndi omwe adagwirizana nawo?
Vesi 12 likuti adayitanidwira kumwamba. Odzozedwawo akuitanidwa kumwamba Armagedo isanachitike. Matthew 24: 31 amalankhula izi. Koma palibe umboni kuti aliyense adatengedwa kupita kumwamba ku 1919.
Vesi 13 likunena za chivomerezi chachikulu, chakhumi cha mzindawo chikugwa, ndipo 7,000 ikuphedwa, pomwe ena onse akuchita mantha ndikupatsa Mulungu ulemerero. Apanso, chidachitika ndi chiani ku 1919 kuwonetsa kuti zochitika zotere zidachitika?
Bungwe Lolamulira limalengeza kuti ndi kapolo wokhulupirika ndi wanzeru. Koma kodi kapolo wanzeru samadziwa pomwe samadziwa kanthu? Kuzindikira ndikofanana ndi nzeru ndichifukwa chake ambiri amamasulira kuti "kapolo wokhulupirika ndi wanzeru". Munthu wanzeru amadziwa kuti zinthu zina sangathe kuzimvetsa. Kuphatikiza nzeru ndikudzichepetsa, adziwa zokwanira kuti anene, "Sindikudziwa". Komanso, kapolo wokhulupirika ndi amene amakhala wokhulupirika kwa mbuye wake. Chifukwa chake, samaimira mbuye wake monyoza ponena kuti china chake ndichowona ndipo chimachokera kwa mbuye pomwe kwenikweni ndichodzikakamiza chokha chokha chokha chongopeka kwa anthu.
Chibvumbulutso 11 :3 1 Ndipo iye adaneneratu za uneneri… (V 1914) Kodi ndi ulosi wotani wa Russell et ses ogwirizana nawo mu 1260? Que les deux témoins étaient l'Ancien et le Nouveau Testament. Monga les 1260 jours étaient 539 années allant de 1799 à 4. Voir Études des Écritures vol 288 p 6 Ensuite, Rutherford ndi mabungwe anapitirizabe kufalitsa mabuku 1914 olembedwa mu Étude Etu. Ces « deux témoins » avaient annoncé que XNUMX marquerait la fin des temps des gentils, et l'établissement du Royaume de Dieu, avec... Werengani zambiri "
“Tazindikira tsopano kuti Yesu sanabwerere mchaka chimenecho [1914] ndipo sanabwererenso”
Ndiyenera kuti ndaphonya izi panjira. Sindinadziwe kuti asintha malingaliro awo / malingaliro / malingaliro / zowonongedwa pa izi. Kodi "kuunika kwatsopano" uku kunawululidwa liti ???
Takhala tikuphunzitsidwa bwino kwambiri kuti tisiye kuganiza kwathu kwakuti tsopano tili ndi luso lokhala ndi malingaliro awiri ampikisano nthawi imodzi. Izi timachita pafupipafupi, ndipo sizimadziwika konse. Chitsanzo chabwino cha izi chingapezeke mu Nsanja ya Olonda dzulo mundime 8: “Ubwenzi ndi Yehova ndi gwero lofunika kwambiri lachitetezo chamakhalidwe. Tikamaphunzira za makhalidwe abwino a Mulungu ndipo timayesetsa kukhala 'otsanzira Mulungu, monga ana okondedwa, ndi kupitiriza kuyenda m'chikondi,' tidzalimbikitsidwa kukana 'chiwerewere ndi zonyansa zamtundu uliwonse.' ”... Werengani zambiri "
Ndikuvomereza kwathunthu kuti mwamuna (kapena mkazi) wanzeru zenizeni ali ndi nzeru zokwanira kudziwa kuti SADZIWA ZONSE, ndipo ndiwodzichepetsa kuti avomereze ndikupempha chidziwitso kwa iwo omwe AMADZIWA ndipo akufuna kugawana zomwe akudziwa. Mosiyana ndi utsogoleri wamasiku ano omwe amapereka chithunzithunzi chodziwika kuti samangodziwa chilichonse, komanso kuti NDIOYEKA OKHA omwe ndi njira yolunjika yowululira zaumulungu, ndikuti ali okhawo omwe ali ndi mayankho. Mtundu wa ntchentche pamaso pa Lemba pomwe Yesu akuti, “Ine ndine njira, ndi chowonadi ndipo... Werengani zambiri "
🙂 chabwino, GB imapitilira kuyimba zochulukirapo, koma ndikukayika kuti angayesetse kalasi: /
"Kuti pali zambiri zomwe zatsalira pa" chowonadi chatsopano "ichi zikuwonekeratu kuti nkhaniyi ili ndi mawu 500." (meleti) Chabwino, kumbukirani, adati amatenga njira yosavuta kunenera m'malemba. Simungathe kuchedwa, mukudziwa. Koposa zonse, ndinali wokhutira kuti ndinaikira kumbuyo dzina la Yehova ndipo ndinatha kufotokoza momveka bwino zifukwa zimene ndimatsatirabe za m'Malemba. ” w05 / 3/15 mas. 15-20 Ndikudabwa ngati ziphunzitso zatsopanozi ndizomveka bwino kulola abale ndi alongo kuti azifotokozera bwino ena. Pomaliza. “Munthu wanzeru amadziwa... Werengani zambiri "
Mukutsimikiza kuti izi sizichokera ku BTEV (Bill ndi Ted's Excellent Version)?
“Rev. 11: 7 akuti adaphedwa ndi chilombo chomwe chimakwera kuchokera kuphompho. Zofalitsa zathu zimaphunzitsa kuti chilombochi ndi United Nations, yomwe idakhalako pambuyo pa nkhondo yachiwiri yapadziko lonse, osati nkhondo yoyamba yapadziko lonse. tachedwa kwambiri kuti ndidzagwire nawo mbali yomwe ikukwaniritsidwa. ”
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Izi sizolondola. Chilombo cha Rev 11: 7 si United Nations.
United Nations ndiye chifanizo cha chirombo.
". . . Chilombo chija chomwe unachiwona chilli, koma kulibe, ndipo chiri pafupi kutuluka m'phompho, ndipo chikafuna chiwonongeko ... . ”(Re 17: 8)
Chirombo ichi molingana ndi maphunziro a JW theology ndi mgwirizano wamayiko kenako ndikatuluka kuphompho, ndi UN. Popeza chilombo cha pa Chiv. 11: 7 chimakweranso kuchokera kuphompho, chiyenera kukhala UN. Komabe, popeza izi sizikugwirizana ndi zochitika zenizeni, zofalitsa zimangosewerera ndi tanthauzo la phompho poyesa kuti lizigwira ntchito.
Ndikumvetsetsa, koma m'mabuku onse a JW ndimayang'ana pofotokoza Rev 11: 7, osatchulidwa za chirombo ichi ngati UNO, koma monga dongosolo la ndale la satana.
Mwina sindingachite bwino.
Mukunena zowona. Iwo samanena kuti chilombo cha pa Chibvumbulutso 11: 7 ndi UN pazifukwa zomveka. Panalibe UN kapena League of Nations mu 1919. Komabe, amati chilombo chotuluka kuphompho pa Chiv. 17: 8 ndiye UN. Chilombo china chomwe chimatuluka kuphompho ndi chija chotchulidwa pa Chiv. 11: 7. Palibe chifukwa chokhulupirira kuti ichi ndi chilombo chosiyana ndi phompho losiyana, kupatula kuti apangitse kuti Chiv. 11: 7 zigwirizane ndi lingaliro lodziwika kuti ulosi wa mboni ziwirizi udachitika mu 1914-1919. Chifukwa?... Werengani zambiri "
Ndine wodabwitsidwa kuti ndimakhulupiriradi izi….
Kwambiri… nanga mdziko lapansi ndi chiyani?
Kuusa moyo smh… ..
Ndikuganiza kuti ndanena kale izi, koma ndapeza nkhaniyi pa mboni za 2 http://www.bibleinsight.com/1260p1.html
ndizosangalatsa kwambiri, amaganiza bwino, olembedwa bwino komanso otanthauzira
Chifukwa chake, Babulo Wamkulu adagwa pomwe Rutherford ndi anzake adamasulidwa m'ndende? Imani aliyense mumsewu ndi kuwafunsa ngati adamva izi ndikuwona zomwe akuchita. Sitima ya Titanic inamira mu 1912 ndipo anthu ambiri amadziwa za izi. Kugwa kwa Babulo Wamkulu kuyenera kukhala chochitika chogwedeza dziko lapansi malinga ndi nkhani ya Chivumbulutso. Izi ndi zamkhutu za a Writing Commitee. Manyazi pa iwo!
Chowonadi chosavuta chakuti palibe kupikisana kumodzi komwe kumaperekedwa chifukwa chani miyezi 42 kapena masiku 1260 ofanana ndi zaka zenizeni za 3.5 ndi masiku 3.5 ndi zodziwikiratu ndikuyimira nthawi yosadziwika pakati pa 1918 ndi 1919, (malinga ndi chithunzi chomwe chili mu QfR), chikuwonekanso, Komanso , kalendala yamakono imapangitsa zaka 3.5 kukhala zofanana ndi masiku ena 1277, osati masiku 1260. Nthawi zonse ndakhala ndikudandaula kuti chifukwa chiyani chaputala 11 vesi 2 akunena miyezi 42 ndi vesi 3 amatchula masiku 1260. Ngati cholinga chinali chakuti miyezi 42 ilingane ndi masiku 1260, munthu angayembekezere kuti terminology yomweyo igwiritsidwe ntchito. Zitha... Werengani zambiri "
Menrov, mwachidziwikire simunatenge Watchtower Mathematics 101 🙂
Mwachitsanzo 1 + 1 = 11 nyamulani 1 add 4 chotsani 1000 onjezani nambala pakati pa 2 & 2, gawani ndi 7, kuchulukitsa ndi 42 ndipo zilingana chilichonse chomwe anganene kuti chikufanana, kupatula Lachitatu pomwe zikhala zofanana ndi zina.
Ndipo ali ndi ufulu wosintha yankho nthawi ina iliyonse mtsogolo
🙂 zovuta kwambiri kwa mnyamata wosavuta ngati ine… ..
O, nthano ina yochokera kwa Wt. Ndili mwana ndinkakhulupirira zonse zomwe ndinauzidwa, chifukwa ndi zomwe ana amachita, koma tsopano ndikuganiza ndizomvetsa chisoni kuwona anthu achikulire akukhulupirira nthano satha kusiyanitsa pakati pa nthano ndi zenizeni.
Ponena za zomwe mudalemba:
Munthu wanzeru amadziwa kuti sangathe kuchita china chake. Kuphatikiza nzeru ndi kudzichepetsa, adzadziwa kunena kuti, "Sindikudziwa".
Zinandibwezera m'malingaliro mwanga Eccl; 7:16 amene akuti pang'ono chabe “Usakhale ... wanzeru koposa. Bwanji ufuna kudziwononga wekha ”
Limeneli ndi lemba labwino kwambiri potsatira zomwe Bungwe Lolamulira lanena kuti ali ndi nzeru zawo, komanso kuti Mulungu wakhala akuwapangitsa kukhala anzeru kwambiri.
Ndikugwirizana ndi a Dorcas Meleti kotero sindingapereke ndemanga yomweyo kupatula kuti ndinene kuti …… .Ndidali pano ndikuwerenga ndikusangalala kwambiri kukhala ndi chidziwitsochi chifukwa chimakwaniritsa momwe tiyenera kuwonera baibulo osati amuna.
zikomo
Munthu wanzeru amadziwa kuti zinthu zina sangathe kuzimvetsa. Kuphatikiza nzeru ndikudzichepetsa, adziwa zokwanira kuti anene, "Sindikudziwa". Ndinayamikira kwambiri mawu awa, Meleti. Ine ndi bambo anga tinkakonda kukambirana za bungweli komanso momwe sangavomereze kuti sakudziwa chilichonse. Kuli bwino kupeka china chake kuposa kunena kuti simukudziwa. “Musavomereze kuti simukudziwa komanso musapepese.” Limeneli liyenera kukhala dzina la webusaitiyi komanso zikwangwani zolembedwa pa Nyumba za Ufumu m'malo mwa jw.org. Pepani. Ndikuganiza kuti ndadzuka mbali yolakwika pakama lero. Zikomo... Werengani zambiri "
Zabwino kumva kuchokera kwa iwe, Dorika. Wokondwa kwambiri kuti mudakali pano.
Meleti
Haha Meleti unamenya golidi pa iyi. Ndinakambirana za mchimwene wanga tsiku lina… Zochitika za Rev ndizodabwitsa komanso zazikulu, kotero kuti kuzimangiriza ndende yosavuta ndizoseketsa. Mukunena zowona, zochuluka zomwe zatsala mu akauntiyo, mukuganiza kuti akuyenera kuyesa kufotokoza fanizoli lonse.
Komabe, sindingapeze QfR iyi mu WT Study edition November kapena December. Ndi iti? Zikomo
Pepani Menrov, ndikadayenera kunena kuti pali Mafunso awiri ochokera kwa Owerenga m'magazini ino. (Nthawi yoyamba yomwe ndidaziwonapo, makamaka.) Chachiwiri, patsamba 30, ndi za "mboni ziwiri".
Zikomo, ndachipeza. Ndimaona kuti ndizachilendo kuti miyezi 42 kapena masiku 1260 amatengedwa koma masiku 3,5 (vesi 9 ndi 11) amakhala zaka modzidzimutsa. Malongosoledwe onse a QfR ali ngati mumawatcha, kudzikwaniritsa pofikira kapena kudzikwaniritsa. Kupatula WBTS, palibe bungwe limodzi, katswiri kapena wofufuza Baibulo yemwe adalumikizana ndi Rev. 11 ndi WBTS. Ndemanga zambiri zaBible zimawonetsa kudzichepetsa pokambirana mutuwu, kuwonetsa malingaliro angapo / kufotokozera komwe kungatheke koma akutsimikiza kuti sizotheka kunena motsimikiza. Pokhapokha ngati... Werengani zambiri "
aaaahhhh… ..Mat 24: 15… theka lachiwiri ndilemba lomwe ndimakonda kwambiri kuyambira pomwe ndimadzuka ndipo ndimakonda momwe New Living Translation imanenera…. (Owerenga, mvetserani!). 🙂