Kudzoka muna Ndira, takaratidza kuti hapana hwaro hweMagwaro hwekutaura kwedu kuti "boka diki" munaRuka 12:32 rinoreva chete boka revaKristu vakafanirwa kutonga kudenga apo "mamwe makwai" panaJohani. kune rimwe boka rine tariro yepasi. (Maona Ndiani? (Little Flock / Rimwe Gwai) Ehezve, izvi pachazvo hazviratidze dzidziso yeaviri-tier mubairo system yevaKristu vemazuva ano, asi chete kuti aya mazwi maviri haagone kushandiswa kutsigira dzidziso iyoyo.
Iye zvino tauya kune chimwe chinhu chekudzidzisa. Iko kutenda kwekuti vane 144,000 vanoratidzwa munaZvakazarurwa chitsauko 7 ne14 inhamba chaiyo.
Kana zvirizvo, saka panofanira kuve nehurongwa hwekudyidzana-mbiri nekuti kune mamirioni emaKristu akatendeka ari kuita basa raIshe nhasi, usatombo fungidzira kuti chii chakaitwa mumakore maviri apfuura nevamwe vasingaverengeki.
Zvinofanira kucherechedzwa kuti kuratidza huwandu uhu hakusi kwechokwadi hakuratidzi dzidziso yekuti vamwe maKristu vanoenda kudenga vamwe vachisara pasi pano. Iyoyo iri yega nyaya, uye chimwe chinhu kune imwe hurukuro. Zvese zvatinoshuvira kuita mune ino positi ndeyekusimbisa hwaro hwerugwaro, kana paine imwe, yekutenda kwedu kuti zana nemakumi mana nenhatu vanoratidzwa mubhuku raZvakazarurwa inhamba chaiyo, kwete yekufananidzira.
Ndepapi patinodzidzisa kuti nhamba yacho ndeyechokwadi? Imhaka here yekuti Magwaro anoti ndizvo zvazviri? Kwete. Hapana chirevo chemumagwaro chinosimbisa iyi nhamba seyechokwadi. Tinosvika pakutenda uku zvichibva pakufunga zvine musoro uye kubvisa. Kana iwe ukave nehanya nekufungisisa zvinyorwa zvedu, iwe unozodzidza kuti chikonzero chakakosha chatinotenda kuti nhamba inofanira kutorwa sezvairi ndechekuti inopesana nenhamba isingaverengeke yeGreat Crowd. (Zvak. 7: 9, w66 3/15 p. 183; w04 9/1 map. 30-31) Pfungwa dzinoenda seizvi: Kana tikatora iyo nhamba seyomiriri pane kuita huwandu hweboka guru risingazivikanwe hazvina musoro. . Chete kana iyo nhamba, 144,000, iri chaiyo ndipo painoita zvinonzwisisika kuunza boka rinopesana renhamba isingazivikanwe.
Hatisi kuzopokana nepfungwa iyoyo kana kuuya neimwe dzidziso pano. Imwe nguva, pamwe. Chinangwa chedu apa ndechekusimbisa chete kana dzidziso iyi inogona kutsigirwa neMagwaro.
Imwe nzira yekuedza kuti dzidziso iyi ndeyechokwadi ndeyekuiendesa kumberi kune yayo yekupedzisira mhedzisiro.
Zvakazarurwa 14: 4 inoti ichi chaicho nhamba zvakaiswa chisimbiso kupererwa ne dzinza rose revana vaIsraeri. Zvino isu tinodzidzisa kuti iyi chaiyo nhamba is uwandu hwe “Israeri waMwari”[I]. (VaG. 6:16) Mubvunzo wekutanga unouya mupfungwa ndewekuti, 144,000 vanogona sei kuva zvakaiswa chisimbiso kupererwa ne vana veIsrael kana vane zviuru zana nemakumi mana nevana vanoumbwa nevese vevana vaIsraeri? Kushandiswa kwekuchinja uku kwemutsara kwaizoratidza kuti boka diki riri kusarudzwa kubva kune hombe, handizvo here? Zvekare, chidzidzo cheimwe hurukuro.
Tevere, isu tine rondedzero yemarudzi gumi nemaviri. Kwete rondedzero yemadzinza chaiwo nekuti Dani naEfraimi havana kunyorwa. Dzinza raRevai rinoonekwa asi harina kubvira ranyorwa pamwe chete negumi nevaviri vekutanga uye dzinza idzva raJosefa rakawedzerwa. (it-2 p. 1125) Saka izvi zvinogona kureva kuti Israeri waMwari. James anotoreva kuChristian Ungano se "iwo marudzi gumi nemaviri akapararira ..." (Jakobo 1: 1)
Zvino, zvinotevera kuti kana zana nemakumi mana nenomwe iri nhamba chaiyo, pane kuigovanisa muzvikamu gumi nezviviri zvine gumi nemaviri, rimwe nerimwe, inofanirwa kureva manhamba chaiwo. Naizvozvo, zviuru gumi nezviviri zvakasimbiswa kubva kumadzinza aRuben, kwaGadhi, kwaAsheri, zvichingodaro, zvine nhamba chaidzo kubva kumadzinza chaiwo. Iwe haugone kutora zvine musoro nhamba chaiyo kubva mudzinza rekufananidzira, iwe unogona? Iwe unotora sei chaiko huwandu hwevanhu zviuru gumi nezviviri kubva murudzi rwekufananidzira rwaJosefa, semuenzaniso?
Zvese izvi zvinoshanda kana chinhu chose chiri dimikira. Kana iyo 144,000 iri nhamba yekufananidzira inoshandiswa seyakawandisa gumi nemaviri kuratidza iko kushanda kwenhamba kune vanhu vazhinji vakarongeka mukuenzanirana, zvakaumbwa nenzira yeumwari hurongwa hwehurumende, saka gumi nemaviri anowedzerawo dimikira kuratidza kuti ese madiki-mapoka mukati inomiririrwa zvakaenzana uye yakaenzana.
Nekudaro, kana zana nemakumi mana nemana emakumi manonwe ari chaiwo, saka gumi nemaviri anofanirawo kunge ari chaiwo, uye madzinza anofanira kunge ari chaiwo neimwe nzira. Idzi ndudzi hadzisi dzemweya, asi ndedzepanyika, nekuti vane zviuru gumi nezviviri vakaiswa mucherechedzo kubva kune yega yega, uye tinoziva kuti kuiswa chisimbiso kunoitwa ava maKristu vachiri munyama. Naizvozvo, kana tichizogamuchira kuti zviverengero chaizvo, saka panofanira kuve nekumwe kukamurwa kweungano yechiKristu muzvikamu zve12 kuitira kuti kunze kweboka rimwe nerimwe nhamba ye12,000 itorwe.
Apa ndipo panofanirwa kutorerwa kwedu zvine musoro, kana tichizobatirira kwavari. Kana isu tinogona kungobvuma kuti iyo nhamba ndeyekufananidzira uye zvese izvi zvinoenda.
Sei makakatanwa ese, iwe unobvunza? Iyi haisi hurukuro yevakadzidza here? Kukakavadzana kwevadzidzi pane zvakanakisa, zvine zvishoma-zvepasirese zvinokanganisa? Haiwa, dai zvaiva zvakadaro. Chokwadi ndechekuti dzidziso iyi yakatimanikidza pakati-1930s kuti tigadzire ideology inotanga kusarudza rimwe boka revaKristu rakatemerwa kubwinya kwekudenga uye imwe yemubayiro wepanyika. Izvo zvakare zvave kuda kuti vazhinji varege kuteerera murairo waJesu wekuti "rambai muchiita izvi muchindiyeuka" (Ruka 22: 19) uye kurega kutora zviratidzo. Zvakaitawo kuti boka rechipiri iri ritende kuti Jesu haasi murevereri wavo.
Zvimwe zvese izvo ichokwadi. Hatisi kuzoitisana nharo pano. Zvichida mune imwe posvo. Nekudaro, zvino zvinofanirwa kuve pachena kuti chimiro chese chedzidziso uye nzira inotevera yekunamata kwevaKristu nhasi, kunyanya patinosvika Chirangaridzo cherufu rwaKristu, rwakavakirwa pangangodaro pakukanganiswa kunonzwisisika nezvekuti nhamba ndeyechokwadi here kana kuti kwete.
Kudai Jehovha aida kuti vamwe vedu varege kuteerera zvakanyatsojeka rairo yeMwanakomana uyu, Mambo wedu, saka angadai asina kuzvijekesa muShoko rake kuti isu taizodaro here?
Kuramba kwangu …..kubva paudiki.….. kusvika kunhamba ye144,000 kuve chaiyo..takadzidziswa kuti munhu wese kubva panguva yechirairo chekupedzisira kusvika 1935 pakapera kuiswa chisimbiso kune avo vachiri kudya nhasi (20,000 plus)… …pane pfungwa dzine musoro here dzinoti “Chokwadi kwave kune vanopfuura 144,000 vakadya zviratidzo mumakore 2,000 40.”? Huwandu hwevanhu pasi rose kubva pakatanga kuvapo munhu hwasvika mabhiriyoni makumi mana……ngatichekei nepakati kusvika pamabhiriyoni makumi maviri…….munofunga kuti kubva pahuwandu ihwohwo vanhu 20 144,000 chete kubva panguva yaKristu vaivepo vaive vakatendeka kuna Kristu. ? 3,000... Read more  »
Ini ndinofunga, zvese zvakatariswa, zvinokwanisika kuti kana zviuru zana nemakumi mana nenomwe zviri nhamba chaiyo. Zvichida mukuti vanotorwa kubva ku "boka guru revanhu" vari "pamberi pechigaro cheushe." Pamwe, chero chikonzero (s) icho Baba vedu chavanosarudza, iva kana kusarudza pakati pevanhu vazhinji ava vane zviuru zana nemakumi mana nezviuru nechinangwa chakakosha. Ngatirege kukanganwa, pane zvakajeka zvakasiyana nhanho dzechinzvimbo, chinzvimbo kudenga. Kune maKerubhi naSerafi, semuenzaniso. Asati atendeuka kuita zvivi, ngirozi yakazova Satani yakatsanangurwa munaEzekieri se "kerubhi rinovhara," zvinoreva chinzvimbo chakakosha kudenga icho chaari pachena... Read more  »
Huwandu hwevane zana nemakumi mana nemana, vakaiswa mucherechedzo kubva kumarudzi gumi nemaviri evaIsraeri, ndewekufananidzira chete, nekuti zvizhinji zvebhuku raZvakazarurwa ndezvekufananidzira? (Zvak. 144,000: 7; 4: 14-1) Ndivanaani vane 3 144,000? Haisi nhamba dzese dzinowanikwa munaZvakazarurwa zviri pachena kuti ndedzekufananidzira. Tora semuenzaniso tsamba dzaKristu kuKereke Nomwe muAsia Minor. Panyaya iyi nhamba yechinomwe haisi yekufananidzira. Pakanga paine ungano nomwe dzakadai; uye kutsiura kwake, kwaakataura kwavari vashanu, kuri kwechokwadi, hakuna kuvanzwa mumutauro wekufananidzira. Mushure mezvose, ndezvipi zvimwe zvavaigona kuteerera yambiro yake yekutendeuka... Read more  »
Ini ndaive Chapupu chaJehovha kwevamwe makumi maviri emakore + makore uye ndakashanda seGuru kweane gumi nemaviri .. Ndakasiya pandakaziva kuti dzidziso yeRudzikunuro haina kuwedzera uye kuti Yakanga yakadzidziswa zvishoma seinotsiva "Rudzikunuro", ndiko kuti kuti inofukidza munhu wese kusara kweiyo Sosaiti isingadi kuti ifukidze uye haina kukodzera naVaRoma 20: 12… Ndakaona zvakare kuti "Abhurahama Chipikirwa" inomhanya kunge tambo yegoridhe mumagwaro ese uye isu maKristu tiri vadyi venhaka yechipikirwa ichocho pamwe naAbrahama nevana vake vese vari “vanakomana... Read more  »
Boka Guru revanhu zvino havasi maKristu munguva ino, asi ndevaya vanoti mushure mekubuda mukutambudzika kukuru vanobva vatanga kupemberera mutambo weMatumba uyo uri mucherechedzo sezvakanyorwa munaZach 14: 16-21 Iko kunyangwe avo vakarwa naJah. vanofanirwa kudzidza kuteerera uye nekupfura minondo yavo kuva sheya dzeIsiaih 2, Mar 2…. Iyo inomira pamberi pechigaro cheumambo mukati memakore chiuru ayo akatarisana nekutongwa uye panguva ino inotungamirwa kumvura yematsime ehupenyu uye kuwacha nguvo dzavo nekudzichenesa muropa regwayana.... Read more  »
ndatenda ini ndasiya JW; s ndaenda ku7th zuva Adventist Inoonekwa yakanaka kusvika pari zvino chete asi ndakaverenga zvakawanda zvemashoko avo
Ndine urombo, asi pasi pano unogona sei kuita zvakadai mushure mekudzidza izvo zvinonyatsodzidziswa neBhaibheri?
Dzidziso ye1914 yakatanga ne7th zuva adventists uye vanonamata muchinjikwa.
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Kubva pane poto kuenda pamoto hapana chinamato chiri kutevera Mwari naJesu
Chokwadi uri kuvhiringidza pakati pe1844 ne1914.
Dzidziso ye1914 yakabva kune zvapupu zveJ. YeSeventh Day Adventist haana chekuita neizvozvo.
Ini ndinotenda kuti dzidziso iri mumavambo ayo maitiro yakabva kuna Nelson Barbour, SDA yakakurudzira Russell uye ndiyo yaive iyo yekupedzisira yakapinda mukuporofita kuverenga nguva. Nekuramba kwake zvachose rudzikunuro, Barbour akasangana neiyo 2 John 6-11 maitiro eanopokana na Kristu, zvichireva kuti nzira yekuporofita yakatarwa yakatanga pasi naRussia izvo zvakonzera kuti kuve nezvirwere zvakanyanya nematambudziko zvakatangwa naSatani.
Mhoroi, Kuvharidzira vane 144000 kusangano ripi zvaro, ndoda J Zvapupu, kuri kutambanudza pfungwa isina kumbovapo kubvira apo maKristu ekutanga akabatana nenyika yeRoma. Iyo nhamba ndeyechokwadi uye diki zvakakwana kuumba hurumende. Sezvinowanzoitika papuraneti redu raimbove rakanaka, avo vanoumba sangano rinotonga munenge marudzi ese, humambo nemadzinza, idiki diki, kunyanya mumatongerwo enyika, zvine hukama nehutongi. Ndiyo chete intro yangu. Raingovawo saizvozvo boka diki revadzidzi vaJesu vaifanira kupihwa humambo naMwari (Ruka 12:32). Mushure mekutanga vakamira muJerusarema... Read more  »
[…] Nhamba ye144,000 inotaurwa pana Zva. 7: 4 na14: 1 inomiririra uye haifanire kutorwa seyakaitika. Avo ve "makuru […]
Chokwadi hachichinje. Chero nguva iwe paunenge uine "mwenje mutsva" kana kunzwisiswa kutsva zvinoreva kuti vanhu vakatevera nzwisiso dzekare vaive pachena kutsauswa kana kutevera nhema ruzivo. Chokwadi chinogara chiripo uye ruzivo rwekuyera harufanire kuongororwa. Iwo mazana ekuchinja kusingaoneki kwakaitwa nesangano reJW humbowo hwekuti hakuna kufemerwa kwaMwari. Muchokwadi, CT Russell aive padyo nechokwadi kupfuura varume vakabata zvaakatanga ndokuwedzera mitemo isingaverengeke yechiFarise. Vanyengeri nekuti vanotadzawo. Muchokwadi tinoudzwa kuti avo vanoti "isu... Read more  »
Tinotenda maonero ako, asi hazvina kukodzera kuti isu tibhadharise chivi kune mumwe. Tinogona, zvechokwadi, tinofanira kutonga zviito sezvakanaka kana zvakaipa. Nekudaro, kurudziro yemoyo yeumwe inosiyirwa kuna Jehovha kuti aone. Yese forum inotora chikamu inobvumirana pakusakundika kweShoko rakafemerwa raMwari, Bhaibheri. Icho chinodikanwa kune chero munhu anoenderera mberi kutora chinhano mukutsinhana kwedu kwekunzvera kweBhaibheri nekukurudzirana. Sezvo pasina chinhu muMagwaro kutaura kuti Petro nevamwe vaapositori "vakakanganisa" nekukanda mijenya kusarudza mumwe munhu kuti atore nzvimbo... Read more  »
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Zvinoenderana nehuwandu hwedu, pakanga paine 90,000 pachirangaridzo che1925; vese vanodya. Pave paine mamwe makumi ezviuru kubvira ipapo. Paive nema8,000 maJuda vakabhabhatidzirwa pakutanga kwebasa muzana ramakore rekutanga. Zviuru zvisingaverengeke zveVemamwe Marudzi zvakatevera. Pave paine chiverengero chisingaverengeki chevakatendeka mumazana emakore apfuura. Nenhamba dzakaita seidzi, isu tinogona sei kuramba takanamatira kune zano rekuseka kuti 144,000 iri nhamba chaiyo?
Ndakanyora my comment uye then verenga twake mumwe……kufunga kumwe chete.
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Kubvumirana Steve - Chinyorwa chakakodzera kuongorora, chakanangana neuyo mubvunzo. Izwi retsananguro nezve maJuda. Vachadya Pasika Seder mushure mekuvira kwezuva neMuvhuro, Kurume 25, 2013. Bhuku reKufunga ratakatarisa muchirongwa cheChikoro nezvekuti ndiani anodya uye paakaona kuti maJuda emazuva ano vanoita izvi musi waNisani 15 pakarenda yavo, iyo inodzokera kuna Rabbi Hillel II . Ivo zvakare vanogadza Nisani 1 panguva yepasirese yekubatana kweyeredzi kwemwedzi nezuva. Aya angadai akave maawa gumi nemashanu makumi mashanu nemashanu maminitsi Universal Yakarongedzwa Nguva (Greenwich, England) on... Read more  »
Nyaya yakasarudzika - Nisani 14 iri muna 2013? Sekureva kwematafura ezvemuchadenga, kugara kwemwedzi padyo neinoinox muJerusarema kwakaitika na9: 51 pm nguva yemuno munaKurume 11, 2013. Manheru akatevera, mwedzi wakagadzika na6: 33pm, maawa makumi maviri nemaminetsi makumi mana nemana, uye makumi mana nemapfumbamwe maminetsi mushure mekuvira kwezuva kwaKurume 20. MaJuda vakatora karenda yavo muBhabhironi, apo vadzidzi venyeredzi / vapristi vakanga vagara vagadzira tafura yekuora kwemwedzi neruzivo chairwo rwekufamba kwemwedzi. Sezvo kunowanzo kuve nemakore, kuchinaya kana kutonaya sinou muJerusarema vafundisi vane hungwaru vanoziva chokwadi... Read more  »
Ini ndinofunga izvi zvinomutsa imwe nyaya, iyo zvimwe Meleti anoda kutumira pa: Kazhinji kangani isu tifanira kutora?
Steve
Kukurukurirana kunonakidza Mukoma Meliti… !!!
Hazvinakidze here kuti maJury achiripo pane mhedzisiro… ?!
Pamwe kuratidzwa kwesimba rekupinza ...? Pakupedzisira, tinokwanisa chete kutevera hana dzedu uye kuramba tichinamata kuna Baba vedu Vokudenga kuti vatitungamirire.
Zvishoma ndinokutendai nekuunza izvi pachena… uye kune vese kune avo vanofunga mafungiro ...
Zvirokwazvo apo Pauro akakurukura kuchengetwa kwoKudya kwaShe Kwemanheru, kwakanga kuri nekariro yenhengo dzose dzeungano dzichidya. Kutaura kwake nezve "kutora zvisina kukodzera" kwaive nenzira yekudya nekunwa, uye kwete hunhu hwekutanga kutora.
Ndiani anofanirwa kutora chidzidzo chakasiyana pane kuti vangani vanofanira kutora. Kana 144,000 isiri chaiyo, saka nharo yekumwa zvishoma - kunyangwe zviuru gumi nezviviri kubva pamamiriyoni gumi nemanomwe - haichaenderani nemagwaro.
Kunyangwe kana nhamba ye144,000 iri chaiyo, hazvireve kuti havazi vese maKristu vanofanirwa kutora. Hapana chinhu muBhaibheri chinoratidza kuti avo chete vanoenda kudenga ndivo vanotenderwa kunwa.
Murevereri uye Chibvumirano chitsva Sosaiti yakadzidzisa kuti chete vane zviuru zvine zana nemakumi mana nezviuru ndivo vanofanirwa kutora zviratidzo uye Jesu anongoyananisa nekuvafira. “Iye ndiye Murevereri pakati paBaba vake vokudenga, Jehovha Mwari, uye rudzi rwaIsraeri womudzimu, urwo rwakaganhurirwa kumitezo 144,000 144,000 bedzi. "Chengetedzo Yepasi Pose Pasi pa" Muchinda Werugare "(1986) pp. 10-11 Saizvozvowo, Mosesi Mukuru," Jesu aiziva kuti aive achatenga vakazodzwa ava neropa rake, saka akareva zvakakodzera kwavari seboka muranda. ” Nharireyomurindi 1993 May 1 p. 16 Jesu Kristu, haasi Murevereri... Read more  »
Uye zvakadaro uye zvakadaro…. simba risingakanganwike reHS "haripupurire nemweya" - nenzira isingakanganisike - kune avo vakasarudzwa naJehovha ropafadzo yekuva vadyi venhaka pamwe naKristu? Sekuyeuchidzwa kwandakaita naAporo, kuvimbika kwega hakuna kukwana kuwana mubairo. Zvakaenzana, kuedza uye kushanda nesimba hazvina kukwana, nekuti ruponeso rwedu nderwekutenda, kwete nemabasa. Saka chii chinosarudza chinhu? - pakupedzisira iko kusarudza kwaJehovha, uye izvo zvoga - kusarudza kwakadai kunoitwa kusingazivikanwe neHS Izvi zvinotevera kuti hapana munhu anofanirwa kuudza (kana kudzidzisa) mumwe... Read more  »
Gedalizah,
VaKristu Mbeu yaAbrahama Here?
Steve
Nerukudzo…
Asi zvekare rimwe rugwaro rwakashandiswa kunze kwechimiro ...
VaRoma 8 vese vari kuratidza musiyano uripo pakati pevanhu venyama nevarume pamweya…
"Nokuti kufunga kwenyama ... kunoreva kuvengana naMwari, ... Saka avo vanoenderana nenyama havagone kufadza Mwari." VaRoma 8: 6-8
Izvi zvinotevera kuti hapana munhu anofanirwa kuudza (kana kudzidzisa) mumwe kuti ane tariro yekudenga here kana kuti kwete uye chinodiwa kuti vadye zviratidzo - iri ibasa raJehovha chete. Chokwadi hatigone “kufunga pachedu” mukutenda kuti tariro yedu ndeyekudenga - dai HS isina kutiudza zvine mutsindo uye zvakajeka, haina kutitaurira zvachose. ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… 1 XNUMX) Ko munhu anofanira kutaurira kana kudzidzisa mumwe kuti ane tariro yekudenga here kana kwete? Chakanga chiri chikamu chevhangeri raPauro. Paul aive munhu. Kana mhinduro kumubvunzo wako iri kwete, saka Pauro anga asiri mutsetse.... Read more  »
Zvakare, nekuziva Chapupu chaka “pinda muchokwadi” kuma 1920 apera, ndakanzwa zvichitaurwa kuti kubva kuma1900 zvichienda mberi pakanga paine - kunyangwe ipapo - vamwe vainzwa "vakasiyana" uye vainzwa kusagadzikana kutora zviratidzo. Zvese zvinoita sezvakaomesesa kuenzanisa nezvakawanda zvemashoko pane ino positi.
Ichi chimwe chinhu chakandinetsa futi, kudzamara ndarava chikamu chakanaka chezvinyorwa zvakaburitswa zvinotungamira kusvika uye mukati menguva iyoyo. Kana iwe uchizonzwisisa iyo shanduko yedzidziso iyi uye ukafunga kuti vanhu vaiverenga ichi chinhu chakakosha (icho chisiri kuratidza dzidziso yacho chaizvo sezvatinoinzwisisa izvozvi) iwe unozotanga kuwana mamwe maonero nei iwe ungangodaro wakanzwika nenzira imwechete kana iwe achangobva kufarira IBSA.
Zvakakodzera kucherechedzawo Apollo kuti ese masere eiyo nhengo Dare Rinodzora mitezo yeboka idzva. Iyo inogona kuve yakanaka yekutanga nzvimbo yekufungazve yakasimbiswa dzidziso.
Asi kufunga kwekupedzisira uku kunoratidza kuti avo vakatendeka vasati vechiKristu vane nzira iri nani yekusaziva nezvetariro yekudenga (zvichikonzerwa nekusaita simba rekuzviwana) pane akatendeka munguva yechikristu vanoziva tariro yekudenga asi vobva vava vanoziva inogutsikana nokufunda kwechokwadi Bhaibheri kuti tariro yakadaro haina kuvhurwa iye. Counter-intuitive kunyange zvishoma, zvirokwazvo?
Hapana kuedza kuzviwana?
Zvichida kuverengwa zvekare kwechiHebheru 11 kwaizogadzirisa pfungwa iyoyo. Vanogona kunge vasina kunyatsoziva zvavaizowana asi ini ndinofanira kusawirirana neiyo "no kuyedza" chikamu.
Isu tiri vekutanga kutaura kuti kutendeseka pachayo haina kukwana (Rom 10: 2).
Ruka 12: 48 inoratidza kuti avo vasina kunyatsonzwisisa kuda kwatenzi, havazowani mubairo uzere, kana kurohwa nehurema hukuru.
Izvi zvinofungidzira kuti maKristu vane tariro yekurarama nekusingaperi kudenga. 🙂
Steve
Kungo fungidzira kana kuyedza kwekufungidzira (ingangoitika pasi pechirango neiyo thoguht-mapurisa): Huwandu hwevagovani hwakakura nemazana mashoma pagore. Asi kana mazano akawanikwa pano nekumwewo chibereko chekururamisa-kunotungamirwa nemweya, iyo kubva nguva-kuenda-nguva ichifamba ichikwidza kumusoro kuburikidza nesangano kwete pasi, zvichikonzera kupetwa pagore, saka tine 2013 - 24,000; 2014 - 48,000; 2015 - 96,000 vachisvika pana Zvita 6, 2015, makore makumi mana ekugadzwa kweGovering Body mukutonga kwesangano. Ipapo isu tese tichafanira kutarisana nekuuya kwa40... Read more  »
Iwe unogona zvakare kufunga kuti iyo nhamba yakatanga kudzikira pakati pe-30's apo zvakatanga kutaurwa kuti boka hombe rakanga risina kuendeswa kudenga. Iyo nhamba yakatanga kukwira zvakare muna 2006 pakatemwa makumi matatu emazuva ekugurwa.
Mhepo inotungamirirwa kana simba rezano revanhu?
Kana tiri kutsvaga mukana wekuti kutenda kwedu muzvibodzwa zviviri zvakasiyana zvakasiyana zvevakatendeka (kureva, hupenyu hwekusafa hwekudenga neupenyu hwepanyika husingaperi) kungave kusiri iko, tinofanirwa kutsvaga tsananguro inogutsa yekutaura kwaJesu kuna Johane Mubhapatidzi - uyo muduku muumambo hwokumatenga mukuru kwaari ”? Isu takagara tichinzwisisa kuti Jesu pano ari kudzidzisa kuti avo verudzi rwevanhu vakafa vasina kuwana mukana wekutenda musimba rinodzikinura reropa rake rakadeurwa havagone kuwana mubairo wehupenyu muhumambo hwekudenga. Izvi zvinoita... Read more  »
Iyoyo haisi nyaya. Jesu akati Abrahama, Isaka naJakobho vachange varipo paMateu 8: 11. Jesu aive achifananidza vakazvarwa nevakadzi, zvinova munhu wese izvozvi, nevaya vari muumambo, vanozove munhu wese panguva iyoyo. Pfungwa yake yaingove yekuti mukuru pane iyezvino aripasi pekupedzisira mune nyowani.
Steve
Steve akandirova kusvika izvi ini ndanga ndichitova mukati mekupindura. Akazvitaura zvakanyatsojeka, asi pamwe ini ndinogona kuwedzera pane izvozvo nehumwe humbowo hwekuti izvi ndizvo zvinogona kuve zviri kutaurwa naJesu. (Mat. 11:11) Chokwadi ndinoti kwamuri, Pakati pevaya vakaberekwa nevakadzi hakuna kumutswa mukuru kuna Johani Mubhabhatidzi; asi munhu mudiki muumambo hwekumatenga mukuru kwaari. (Mat. 14: 10-13) uye iye akatumira, akagura Johwani musoro mutirongo. 11 Uye musoro wake wakaunzwa... Read more  »
"Asi ndinokutaurirai kuti vazhinji vanobva kumabvazuva nekumadokero vachauya vakagara patafura naAbrahama, naIsaka naJakobho, muushe hwekumatenga."
Zvinonzwika izve zvinoita kunge uchibvumirana nevanhu ve2 vanoita webhusaiti inonzi ANOINTED JW.ORG
(Isaya 65: 20) "Hapazovazve nemazuva mashoma anoyamwa kubva panzvimbo iyoyo, kana mutana asina kuzadza mazuva ake; nokuti mumwe uchafa achiri mukomana, kunyange ane makore zana; uye kana ari mutadzi, kunyange aine makore zana anozove akaitirwa zvakaipa.
Uipi hahuzobvumirwe kwenguva refu naKristu saMambo neMutongi.
Chokwadi ichokwadi. Asi mune chero mamiriro ezvinhu (kusanganisira ako) ese evanhu haasi kuzova asina zvivi kubva pazuva 1 yekutonga kwe1000 gore. Saka zvakajeka izvi hazvireve kuti vanhu vacharohwa nekuda kwekutadza kwavo kwekutanga mushure merugeon. Naizvozvo Kristu semutongi sezviri pachena achange achisarudza kuti munhu angave asingakundwe here, uye kana zvakadaro mukana wake wehupenyu hwusingaperi uchadzoswa panguva iyoyo. Haubvumi here?
Icho hachisi chokwadi here kuti Rev 20 inoratidzira zviitiko paPasi, kana zvirinani kubva pakuona kwepasi? Uye tende raMwari rinodzika kudenga, kwete? Pisarema 37: 9 Nokuti vanoita zvakaipa vachagurwa, Asi avo vanomirira Jehovha ndivo vachagara nhaka yenyika. 10 Kwangosara nguva duku, munhu akaipa haazovipozve; Uchanyatsotarira panzvimbo yake, asi haachazovipo. Rev 20: 5 (Vamwe vese vakafa havana kumuka kusvikira makore chiuru apera.) Uku ndiko kutanga... Read more  »
Ini ndinotadza kunzwisisa kufunga kwako. Hongu, vakaipa vachaparadzwa, asi izvi hazviitwe zvizere kusvikira kwapera zviuru zvemakore, pakagara vakawanda vakaipa. Munguva iyi maKristu anotonga pamusoro pavo.
Mushure memakore ane chiuru nekutongwa, avo vasiri maKristu vakapiwa hupenyu mukumuka kwechipiri vachazotongwa pamusoro.
Muzvose zviri zviviri hauna kuratidza kuvepo kweboka repiri revaKristu.
Steve
VaKristu vese vachatonga nemadzimambo nevapristi vaMwari here - kwemakore chiuru nekusingaperi?
Ivo vachatonga pamusoro paani? Vanhu vasina kutenda uye vasina kururama? Zvakaoma.
Saka pane mapoka maviri. (Izwi rekuti chiitiko-chetsika rinodzidzisa ruponeso rwavanowana.)
Verenga Zvakazarurwa 20. Zvirokwazvo ndivo vakaipa vavanotonga pamusoro pavo, nekuti pakuguma kwenguva iyoyo vakaipa vanotendeukira kumaKristu vobva vaparadzwa.
Nekuti nekusingaperi, ivo vanozotonga pamusoro pevakapihwa hupenyu vaive vasiri vechiKristu.
Steve
Handina chokwadi chekuti "tier" yakanyanya kuipa kupfuura "class".
(James 2: 4) URI nemapoka musiyano pakati penyu ..
Mamiriro akasiyana ndinokupa, asi kushandiswa kwe "kirasi" munharaunda zvino kazhinji kune chirevo chisina kunaka, uye zvaive zvechokwadiwo muzana ramakore rekutanga zvakare.
Jesu paakaumba sungano nevagari venhaka voUmambo sevadyi vepachirangaridzo chekutanga (asati afa), akati: (Ruka 22: 28-30) “Zvisinei, imi ndimi makaramba muneni mumiedzo yangu; 29 uye ndinoita sungano nemi, kungofanana naBaba vangu vakaita sungano neni, yeumambo, 30 kuti mudye nekumwa patafura yangu muumambo hwangu, uye muchagara pazvigaro zvekutonga madzinza gumi nemaviri aIsraeri. Jesu aive asiri murevereri wesungano inogara nekusingaperi yainge yaitwa naBaba vake naye. Kana kuita kwake semurevereri mune izvi nyaya na... Read more  »
Neruremekedzo Urbanus…
uchishandisa izwi rekuti, "zvakajeka", kana uchidudzira magwaro, kunyanya pane ino saiti… !!! ???
Tose tinoita kunge tine dzidziso dzinoverengeka pamusoro pedzidziso iyi… ndicho chikonzero tiri pano…
Ndakatotaura zvangu… asi zvinoita seni kuti tese tinoda kuve, "Right…!"…?
Zvakare kune kukakavara, ”hama inodikanwa
rs… 🙂
Ndatenda, saraybach54. 🙂 Mamwe mazwi ekubata uye mazwi ekubata anofanirwa kungwarira "zviri pachena", "zvinoonekwa", "pasina kupokana" uye "pasina mubvunzo". Aya ndiwo mazwi ekare eChirungu akanaka ane nzvimbo yawo mumutauro wechivanhu, asi nekuda kwekushandisa kwavo kazhinji mumabhuku edu kuunza fungidziro yekufungidzira ichitsigira nzwisiso nyowani iyo yakazosiiwa ichida imwezve "gadziriso", iyo pachayo yakavewo vakaunzwa vachishandisa rimwe remazwi aya, ikozvino vatakura imwe inorema, isina kunaka semantic mukwende. Zvakanakisa kuvadzivirira pano kana uchiunza mutsara wekufungisisa kwekubvisa. Zvinonakidza kuita izwi... Read more  »
kubva kuWOL…nhamba idzi dzinodzorwa......kana ukatsvaka Jehovha (Just mumaBhaibheri) it inouya only 620 nguva
Jesu (chete mumabhaibheri) rinouya nhamba imwe chete ka620.
*Aihwate: idzi ndidzo nhamba kubva kune VOSE ari Shanduro yeBhaibheri that JW.org zvimwet UYE “j” ari mumavara maduku. “Jehovha” “Jesu” Nei???
zviri pachena 4,790
pasina mubvunzo 1,223
kunatsiridza 71
kuvandudzwa 81
pasina kusahadzika 328
zvinoonekwa 624
Ndinofanira kugadzirisa……nhamba dzakapihwa mutsamba yangu yekupedzisira dzinonyengera ……uye dzinoratidza hunyengeri hweJW.org….nekuti manhamba aya ndiwo maPEJI anowanikwa mazwi muzvinyorwa. Peji 5 ye4,790 mapeji e "zviri pachena". Izvo zvinoita kuti nyaya yavari kupomerwa itonyanya kuipa. Zvakare tichireva nezvaJehovha naJesu…..620 MAPEJI EMWE…..shiri inenhamba chaiyoiyo yemapeji ega ega. Pakuzvidavirira kwangu (kwete kuti ndinoda) vanonyengera nokutaura “mibairo” yeshoko riri kutsvakwa. Kunyengedza nekuti hatisi kutsvaga... Read more  »
Ichokwadi kuti kushandisa mazwi "zvakajeka" uye "zviripachena" kunogona kukuwanira iwe basa kudhipatimendi rekunyora, asi hazvina mutoro wakaenzana kutenderera pano kunze kwekunge humbowo hwapihwa zvizere. Ngatitange nekutaura pfungwa yekuti zviitiko zvepaMat 25: 34-40 zvinotsanangura Zvapupu zvaJehovha zvichibatsira boka repakati revakazodzwa pakati pavo nekutevera nhungamiro yavo pabasa rekuparidza. Tarisa Jesu mazwi pasina fungidziro. Sei aigona kutsanangura zviito nenzira yerudo rwakawandisa dai ainyanya kureva kubatsira nemurairo wechiKristu kuparidza vhangeri? Zvakare nei zvichidaro... Read more  »
Sekutaura kwaApollos, dudziro yedu yese yemufananidzo we "makwai nembudzi" yakavakirwa pane izvo zvirevo zvatinopa kumazwi "hama dzangu". Nekudzidzisa kuti izvi zvinoreva chete kirasi yemuKristu ane tariro yekudenga, tinomanikidzwa kupedzisa kuti makwai haasi eiri boka- kwete "hama dzake". Nekudaro, chimbofunga mazwi ake pamusoro penyaya yekuti ndiani hama yake ? ” 12 Achitambanudzira ruoko rwake kuvadzidzi vake, akati: “Tarira!... Read more  »
Urbanus,
Muna Mateo 25 Jesu anoti kaviri “aya,” achitaura nezvehama dzake nevadiki. Ndepapi muchinyorwa apa pane “izvi” muchiitiko chekuti Jesu ashandise chisazitasingwi ichi achireva kwavari kana vakasiyana negwai rimwe chete?
Steve
Jisi remazambiringa kudzivirira kunwa doro. Wonderbread ndinofungidzira nekuti yaiitwa ka4 pagore - uye kudya matzoh hachisi chinhu chePresbyterian - kunyangwe kana "dare revakuru (mapresbytera" ari.
Saka vaPresbyterian vangadya chingwa chena uye kunwa muto wemazambiringa mukutaridza kutenda vanovabvuma kuenda kudenga, uye Zvapupu zvechiKristu zvakabhabhatidzwa zvisina kutora chikamu se "vanakomana veChipangano cheHumambo" zvinoramba ruponeso?
Re: VaPresbyterian vanodya chingwa chena uye vanwa muto wemazambiringa mukutenda kwekutenda vanovabvuma kuenda kudenga, uye Zvapupu zvakabhapatidzwa zvechiKristu zvisiri kudya se “vanakomana veChibvumirano choUmambo” zvichavaramba ruponeso?
Handisati ndambotaura kuti kusadya kunoramba munhu kuponeswa, uye ndakanyatsotaura kuti zviratidzo hazvisi zvimwe zvezvitendero zvakadaro zvekuti kutora kunova tikiti rekuenda kudenga.
(Zvakazarurwa 2: 23)… ungano dzose dzichaziva kuti ndini iye anonzvera itsvo nemoyo, uye ndichapa kwamuri mumwe nemumwe zvinoenderana nezviito zvenyu.
Thanks Apollo-
Kuti nditsanangure "mweya wangu weCalvin," ndakadya muto wemazambiringa waWelch uye zvidimbu zvidiki zvechingwa chena nekuti ndakazvarwa ndiri mumwe wehama "dzakasarudzwa" dzaKristu.
Asi pandakangodzidza nezvechinangwa chaJehovha chekudzikinura vanhu kuburikidza nerudzikinuro rwechibairo cheropa regwayana, handina kuzozvitora "seni".
Jesu akaraira kudya uye kunwa ropa rake uye nyama yakapihwa anopfuura gore asati afa. Naizvozvo zvaive zvekufananidzira.
Ehe inofananidzira. Hapana nharo kubva kwandiri ipapo. Asi izvi hazvireve kuti tinogona kuvamisa sevasina kukosha nekuti ivo vanomiririra. Pane zvinyanyisa zviviri apa: 1) Chingwa newaini imuviri waKristu nenyama chaiyo. 2) Chingwa newaini zvinongova zviratidzo uye nekudaro kutevedzera Jesu kuraira kwekumurangarira nekumwa kwavo hachisi chinhu chikuru. Hapana chimwe cheizvi chinogona kuve chechokwadi. Kana iwe wakasarudza kuti chikafu hachishande kwauri saka ndizvozvo chaicho chisarudzo chako. Handina chishuwo... Read more  »
Zvisinei nekubvumirana kwedu kwese, tasvika pakukanganisa zvishoma. "Kune ungano nomwe here, vakuru makumi maviri nevaviri, zvisikwa zvipenyu zvina, uye nemamiriyoni mazana maviri evatasvi vemabhiza?" Kubvumira kune vamwe kutenderera pane chekupedzisira chinhu, ndiani achareva zvinopfuura hongu. Chetatu chevatumwa chawa here? Mumwe chete kuna Mwari mumwe uye Baba? Izvo zviri kutaurwa, ini ndatsvaga mweya wangu weCalvinist kweanoda kusvika makumi mashanu emakore pamusoro penyaya yekuti ndiani anodya zviratidzo. Pakutanga ndainamatira chokwadi nemoyo wese, uye chokwadi ndakawana. Sezvo ini ndisingatarisire kugara pazvigaro naJesu uye... Read more  »
Kunyangwe chiri chokwadi kuti kudya zviratidzo nekunyatso isiri imwe nzira yekuchengetedza mweya yedu, ichiri imwe yemirairo yakananga yatakapiwa naIshe wedu.
Asi hapana munhu anofanira kukunyengetedza kuti iwe unofanirwa kutora kana zvisiri mumoyo mako, sezvo zvisina kukodzera kufambisa chero munhu kuti iye haafanire kuchengeta mutemo.
Chaizvoizvo chinhu chimwe chete chinogona kutaurwa nezve rubhabhatidzo. Imo uye pachayo haina kuchengetedza kana isu tikasaedza kuchengeta mutemo waKristu. Chinhu chimwe chete nekuparidzira. Asi kucherechedza kwedu izvi zvinhu zvishoma zvakatungamirwa naJesu zvese chikamu cheizvo kuva chiKristu, uye ivo vese vane mabasa avo mumwe nemumwe ekutamba muhupenyu hwedu kuti tirambe takatarisa pane zvatiri munyika ino.
Mutoro wekuratidzira uri pauri, hama yangu inodikanwa. Iko kunoratidzika kuve kune chikonzero chose chekutenda mune yakarongedzwa uye yakarongedzwa naMwari gadziriro yeruregerero rwevanhu vese. 1 kana gumi nemaviri kana 12 ese anondishandira, asi Zvakazarurwa zvinofunga pa24x12x12 kusvikira zvaratidzwa neimwe nzira. Chii chakanakisa nezve chiratidzo cheZvakazarurwa 1000 chiri kubata Josefa na Revhi sevanakomana venyama veIsrael, uye nekudaro, sevanakomana veIsiraeri vekunamata vakasarudzwa kubva kurudzi rwese uye rudzi rwevanhu kubva paPendekosti ya7 CE. Kupfuura zvese, ndiJehovha amene akasika dzinza nemarudzi... Read more  »
Kana mutoro wehumbowo uri pandiri saka panofanirwa kuve nechimwe chikonzero chekutenda kuti mashandisirwo emhamba munaZvakazarurwa anowanzoitika. Kana izvi zvisiri izvo saka ndinoti mutoro wehumbowo uri pabato uyo anomiririra kuti mune iyi nyaya ndeyeCHOKWADI. (Zvakazarurwa 1: 1) .. akatuma mutumwa wake ndokuzviratidza muzviratidzo… (Zvakazarurwa 1:20) Kana chiri chakavanzika chitsvene chenyeredzi nomwe dzawaona kuruoko rwangu rwerudyi, uye neidzo nomwe. zvigadziko zvemwenje zvegoridhe: Nyeredzi nomwe dzinoreva [vatumwa] ve... Read more  »
Ini ndinofanira kubvumirana naAporo pane izvi. Sezvo chizaruro chizere nezviratidzo nezviratidzo, tinogona kungotaura sechokwadi kuti nhamba ndeye chaiyo kana a) yakanyatsotaurwa saizvo, kana b) hapana imwe nzira yekuzvinzwisisa, kana c) iyo nhamba iri inowanikwa kune imwe nzvimbo muRugwaro umo inonzwisisika kuti ive chaiyo. 144,000 XNUMX inogona kunge iri chaiyo kana inogona kunge iri yekufananidzira, kana sekutaurwa neUrbanus, zvinogona kunge zviri zvese zviri zviviri. Asi kutaura chimwe chinhu chingave chakanyanya kusiyana nekufunga kuti ndizvo. Chinzvimbo chekare... Read more  »
Zvakare sewedzero kune yangu yapfuura kutaura, handifunge kuti runako rwechiratidzo runotsamira padudziro chaiyo. Sezvaunonongedza Urbanusus, zhinji dzeiyi nhamba dzinovakirwa pakurongeka kwenyama chaiko. Ndiri kuona runako pakuratidza kurongeka kwemweya maererano nenhamba dzekuzara idzo dzakange dzatoratidzwa muhurongwa hwakaderera. Asi zvinoita sekunge zvine muganho kuna Mwari kana tikati saka aifanira kumisikidza mbiri yake yeumambo ine mbiri panhamba chaidzo dzakashandiswa semufananidzo. Handigoni kufungidzira Mwari achiti "ndine urombo iwe... Read more  »
Chirevo cheichi positi - "chaicho kana chekufananidzira" chinokundikana kuziva kuti Jehovha akagadzira hurongwa hwemweya kubva pakutanga kuva vaviri. Iwo makumi maviri nemasere ehupirisita hwehupirisita hwaive hwakaumbwa mushumiro yavo - Ruka 24. uye: (Vahebheru 1: 7-11) 14 Kana, saka, kukwana kwaive chaizvo kuburikidza nehupirisita hwevaRevi, (nekuti nazvo sechinhu vanhu vakapihwa. Mutemo,) ndezvipi zvimwe zvaizodiwa kuti mumwe mupirisita amuke maererano netsika yaMel? chizedhek uye asina kunzi ndezvaAroni? 11 Nekuti sezvo upristi huri kuchinjwa, kunouya... Read more  »
Urbanus
Saka kupokana kwako ndekwekuti panguva iyo nhamba 144,000 yakasarudzirwa chiratidzo chayo, pachavawo neicho nhamba chemadzimambo nevapirisiti. Ini ndakanzwisisa izvo chaizvo?
Iwe une humbowo hweMagwaro hweizvozvo here? Ini ndakundikana kuwana chero muLuka 1 kana vahebheru 7, asi pamwe ndiri kurasikirwa nechainongedzo.
Aporo
Pfungwa yakanaka. Ehe, vashoma vane hukama. Kana chimwe chinhu chimwe chemabhirioni achamutswa uye chichitoda kufudzwa pachako, munhu anogona kufunga kuti kunyangwe mamirioni mashoma madzimambo nevapirisita vanove vashoma.
Huwandu hunogona kunge huri-muchokwadi hunongomiririra, asi kana munhu aigona kutarisa makirasi evapristi pasi pemutemo wekare, vashoma chete, vana vaAroni (vapristi vakuru) vaitenderwa kupinda mutende remukati. Saka izvi kwandiri zvinoita senge zvinoratidza kuti kuchave nevashoma chete zvichienzaniswa neboka guru revanhu vachatonga semadzimambo uye mupirisita. Paul akataurawo munaVaRoma kuti ava vaifanira kuda Kristu kutambura saiye kuti vawane uyu mubairo.
Kuva humambo hwevapristi chaive chivimbiso kurudzi rwese rweIsraeri, kwete vanhu vashoma.
Meleti, Kuziva izvi kunoenda kunodarika chiyero chepositi, dzimwe pfungwa dzichimiririra ramangwana rako ramangwana: 1) Zvatinoverenga nezvezana gumi nezviuru ndizvo zvakanzwikwa naJohane, kwete zvaakaona. Hazvingave here kuti boka guru ndiye ari kuona boka richangorondedzerwa kwaari? 144,000) Mutumwa anoti usakuvadza pasi kusvika vasungwa vaMwari wedu vaiswa chisimbiso. Izvi zvaizoreva kuti chero munhu anenge ari mushandiri waMwari ari pakati peboka iri. 2) Nhamba ye3 inhamba yekufananidzira uye zvatiri kutaurwa pano nezvayo... Read more  »
Steve Anonakidza mapepa, asi ini ndinofunga panofanira kuve nemusiyano mumwe pakati pemapoka. Boka guru ndeavo vabuda mukutambudzika kukuru. Iwo ma144K anoratidzika kunge anomiririra vese vanotonga naKristu. Zvichida saka saka boka guru ndeye subset ye144K. Ini ndoziva zvinonzwika kupokana-iweitive zvichienderana nehuwandu, asi kana tikangobvumira vane144,000 kuti ive nhamba yekufananidzira ipapo inova isina basa. Huwandu hwe144,000 sehuwandu hwakawanda hwe12x12x1000 hunoratidza kuzere kwegadziriro. Zvisinei avo vakatarisana nekutambudzika kukuru vangada kuvimbiswa... Read more  »
Aporo, handina chokwadi chekuti "ndauya" ndiko kuverenga kwakanyanya. Icho chiitiko chiripo, saka zvinogona kunge zviri kuti John ari kuvaona vari munzira yekubuda. Vanotora chikamu bhizinesi rinonyengera. Isu hatisi kuwana chero chinoratidza chekuenderera chisimbiso chinofanirwa kupedziswa. Asi, ngirozi inoita senge inotanga kuisa chisimbiso, kunyanya eschatological muchimiro. Saka vane zana nemakumi mana nemakumi mana ndivo vaizova kereke mhenyu, asi kwete kereke munhoroondo yese, ingava yeavo vari pasi pano kumagumo kana vese mukumuka kuvakafa. Ini handina chokwadi nezve yako poindi pane chiratidzo.... Read more  »
Mhoro Steve Ini ndinobvuma kuti kudomwa kwangu kwevanegumi neviri sekereke yose kubva muzana ramakore rekutanga zvichibva pane kwakanyanya pamusoro pekufunga kwedu kwedzidziso. Iyi itsika yandinoyedza kudzivisa, saka kutenda nekundibata pane izvo. Ndiri kuona pfungwa yako kuti ichi chiratidzo chingangoreva chete kune avo vakaiswa chisimbiso munguva yekupedzisira. Ini ndinozvitora kuti munogamuchira kuti maKristu emuzana ramakore rekutanga akaiswa chisimbiso nemweya unoera (144,000Co 1:2, 1; VaEf. 21:22, 1; 13:14), asi kuti urikunongedza kuti vane zviuru gumi nezvisere havatsananguri nhamba yakazara... Read more  »
Aporo,
Ndinogona kukoshesa maonero ako pane presuppositions. Ini ndinowona zvakafanana maonero.
Kurerekera kwangu pane iwo mavara kunoenderana nezvinhu zviviri. Imwe, Rev. 4: 1 inoti zvinhu zvinotsanangurwa zvichiri mberi. Chechipiri, kuiswa chisimbiso kumwe kunotaurwa nezvake murugwaro kungaite sekutora nzvimbo pakutendeuka, uku kuri kweavo vari vatobatirwa nevashandiri vaMwari.
Ini handina zvekufungidzira zvinopesana nemaonero ako, ini handina chokwadi chekuti zvinokodzera rugwaro.
Steve
Neruremekedzo Steve…? Boka guru revanhu rinoonekwa naJohane kudenga - akamira pamberi pechigaro chehushe - atoponeswa kubva mudambudziko guru… (Rev 7: 9,10) Panotaurwa nezveboka revazhinji-vemarudzi, vachatonga seMadzimambo uye Vapirisita vepasi rose, kuna Zvakazarurwa 5: 9,10, vari kuimba rwiyo, mazwi akanyorwa pasi… (zvinopesana nezvakavanzika)… asi izvo zviri kungo nyudza mvura zvakanyanya… !!! ?? ? Zvisinei, vane zviuru zana nemakumi mana nemana makumi mana vachiri pasi pano pakavharwa huma dzavo… (Rev 144,000: 7) uye vanogara panyika kwechinguva… (Rev 3: 9) Nguva inotevera pavanoonekwa, ivo... Read more  »
Saray,
Zvekare, ini handigutsikane nemaonero aya, nekuda kwezvikonzero zvakawanda, kusanganisira tsamba yangu yegirama kuna Aporo. Sezvambotaurwa pamusoro, hazvisi pachena kuti vakatoponeswa kubva mukutambudzika munaZvakazarurwa 7.
Steve
Neruremekedzo Steve…
Unoverenga sei verse10 ipapo…?
Vanodanidzira nenzwi guru, "Ruponeso ngaruve kuna Mwari wedu…"
Vanogona sei kusimbisa kuti kana vachiri kuzoponeswa…?
Bhaibheri rinogara richitaura nezvevaKristu sevakaponeswa panguva ino. Ini handioni ichi sedambudziko.
Steve
Sezvineiwo ... zvinoita kunge pasina kutaurwa kwakananga, mune chero rugwaro runotaura nezve144,000, kutonga kwavo semadzimambo nevapristi kwechiuru chemakore…
Zvakare, kana munhu akatarisa kuwanda kwevaKristu vakazodzwa munguva dzazvino, mumwe anofanirwa kushamisika kuti zvinogoneka sei kuti muzana ramakore rekutanga pakanga pasina pedyo ne144,000 yevaKristu vakatendeka uye vazhinji vavo vaingoonekwa pasi pano ikozvino.
Zvakadaro. Muchokwadi, kungoshanda kubva kuhuwandu hwakabhabhatidzwa iyo iyo Bhaibheri rinotipa uye tobvumira huwandu hunochengetedza hwevatendeuki pakati pevahedheni, tobva tawedzera huwandu hwekuzvarwa uye kuti kutsauka pakutenda hakuna kukurira ungano zvachose kwenguva yakati mushure mekufa kwevaapositori, tinogona kuratidza zviri nyore masvomhu kuti nhamba yakazadzwa mukati memakore zana kufa kwaKristu.
Ndinotenda zvakataurwa naRussell. "Vazhinji vakadaidzwa asi vashoma vanosarudzwa". MaKristu mazhinji akazodzwa asi ngaahwine mujaho wekuve 144,000