Chikamu 1 chezvikamu izvi akaonekwa muOctober 1, 2014 Nharireyomurindi. Kana usati iwe uverenge ratidziro yedu uchitaura pamusoro peiyo nyaya yekutanga, zvinogona kubatsira kuzviita usati waenderera neiyi.
Magazini yaNovember iri kukurukurwa pano inoongorora masvomhu atinosvika ku1914 sekutanga kwekuvapo kwaKristu. Ngatishandisei kufunga kwakakomba apo patinozviongorora kuti vaone kana paine chinyorwa cheMagwaro chekutenda.
Pane peji 8, yechipiri ikholamu, Cameron anoti, "Mukuzadzika kukuru kwechiporofita ichi, hutongi hwaMwari hwaizotamiswa kwenguva kanomwe." Sezvakakurukurwa mune yedu yapfuura posvo, hapana humbowo kuti kune chero kwechipiri kuzadzikiswa. Uku kufungidzira kukuru. Nekudaro, kunyangwe kupa iyo fungidziro inoda kuti isu tiite imwe fungidziro: kuti nguva nomwe hadzisi dzekufananidzira kana dzisingagumi, uye zvakadaro haazi chaiwo makore manomwe futi. Panzvimbo iyoyo, tinofanirwa kufunga nguva imwe neimwe ichinongedzera pagore rekufananidzira remazuva mazana matatu nemakumi matatu uye kuti kuverenga kwezuva-kwegore kunogona kushandiswa zvichibva pauporofita husina hukama hwakanga husina kunyorwa kusvika makore anosvika mazana manomwe gare gare. Pamusoro pezvo, Cameron anoti kuzadzikiswa kwacho kunosanganisira kuvhiringidzwa kusingazivikanwi mukutonga kwaMwari. Tarisa uone anoti, kuti zvaizokanganiswa "neimwe nzira". Ndiani anoita iko kutsunga? Zvirokwazvo kwete Bhaibheri. Izvi zvese mhedzisiro yekufunga kwevanhu kubvisa.
Cameron anotevera achiti, "Sezvatakaona, nguva nomwe dzakatanga pakaparadzwa Jerusarema muna 607 BCE" Cameron anoshandisa chirevo "sekuona kwatinoita" kuratidza kuti ari kureva chokwadi chakambosimbiswa. Zvisinei, muchinyorwa chekutanga hapana humbowo hwemumagwaro kana hwenhoroondo hwakapihwa kubatanidza nguva nomwe nekuparadzwa kweJerusarema, kana kubatanidza kuparadzwa ikoko na607 BCE Saka isu tinofanirwa kuita dzimwe pfungwa mbiri tisati taenderera mberi.
Kana tichizogamuchira kuti nguva nomwe dzinotanga nekukanganisa kutonga kwaMwari pamusoro peIsrael (kwete pamusoro pe "humambo hwevanhu" sekutaura kwaDanieri muna ? Paive apo mambo weBhabhironi paakashandura mambo weIsrael kuva mambo anotonga? Kana kuti pakaparadzwa Jerusarema? Bhaibheri haritauri kuti ndezvipi. Kufunga kwekupedzisira, saka izvozvo zvakaitika rini? Zvakare, Bhaibheri haritauri. Nhoroondo yenyika inoti Bhabhironi rakakundwa muna 4 BCE uye Jerusarema rakaparadzwa muna 17 BCE Saka gore ripi ratino gamuchira uye ratinoramba. Isu tinofungidzira kuti vanyori venhoroondo vakarurama nezve 25, asi zvisizvo nezve 539. Ndeipi hwaro hwedu hwekuramba rimwe zuva nekutambira rimwe? Isu tinogona kungogamuchira zviri nyore 587 uye kuverenga kuenda mberi makore makumi manomwe, asi isu hatidi.
Sezvauri kuona, isu tiri kutovaka dzidziso yedu pane akati wandei mafungidziro asingatenderwe.
Pane peji 9, Cameron anoti "Nguva nomwe chaidzo dzinofanira kuva dzakareba kupfuura makore manomwe chaiwo". Kuti asimbise pfungwa iyi, anobva ati, "Kunze kwezvo, sezvatakambofunga, mazana emakore gare gare apo Jesu aive pano pasi, akataura kuti nguva nomwe dzainge dzisati dzapera." Iye zvino tave kuisa mazwi mumuromo waJesu. Haana kutaura chinhu chakadai, uye haana kureva icho. Icho Cameron arikureva kwaari ndeamashoko aJesu pamusoro pokuparadzwa kweJerusarema muzana ramakore rokutanga, kwete muzuva raDhanieri.
"Uye Jerusarema richatsikwa-tsikwa nemarudzi, kusvikira nguva dzakatarwa dzemamwe marudzi dzakwana." (Ruka 21: 24)
Kukosha kwerugwaro urwu rwumwechete mukuumbwa kwedzidziso iyi hakugone kuwedzererwa. Zvichitaurwa zviri nyore, hapana chinhu chenguva chinogoneka pasina Ruka 21:24. Iyo yese yechipiri yekuzadzika hypothesis inopunzika isina iyo. Sezvauri kuda kuona, kuyedza kusunga mumashoko ake nezve kutsikwa kweJerusarema kunokonzeresa kuti kufungidzira kuverengeka.
Chekutanga, tinofanirwa kufunga kuti kunyangwe achishandisa nguva yemberi isinganetsi ("achatsikwa") ainyatso kureva kushandisa chimwe chinhu chakaomarara kuratidza chemberi uye chichienderera mberi chiitiko chenguva yemberi; chimwe chinhu chakadai, "chave uye chicharamba chichitsikwa-tsikwa".
Chepiri, isu tinofanirwa kufunga kuti kutsika-tsika kwaanoreva hakuna chekuita nekuparadzwa kweguta iye achangobva kufanotaurwa. Kuparadzwa kweguta rinongova chinyorwa chezasi mukuzadzika kukuru uko kunoita kuti kutsikwa kutaure kurudzi rwechiJuda kusisina Mwari samambo zvekare.
Chetatu, isu tinofanirwa kufungidzira kuti nguva dzakatarwa dzemarudzi dzakatanga neJerusarema richirasikirwa nekutonga kwaro pasi paMwari. "Nguva dzemamwe marudzi" idzi dzinogona kunge dzakatanga nekutadza kwaAdamu, kana nekumukira kwaNimrodhi ("muvhimi ane simba achipesana naJehovha" - Ge 10: 9, 10 NWT) paakamisa humambo hwekutanga kupokana naMwari. Kana ivo vangadai vakatanga nehuranda hwemaJuda pasi paFarao pane zvese zvatinoziva. Magwaro haataure. Kushandiswa kwemutsara chete muBhaibheri rose kunowanikwa mumashoko aJesu akanyorwa pana Ruka 21:24. Kwete zvakawanda zvekuenderera mberi, asi isu takavaka dudziro-inoshandura hupenyu kubva pairi. Zvichitaurwa zviri nyore, Bhaibheri haritaure kuti nguva dzevaHedeni dzakatanga rini uye kuti dzichaguma riini. Saka fungidziro yedu yechitatu ndeyechokwadi. Idaidze iyo 3a uye 3b.
Chechina, Tinofanirwa kufunga kuti humambo hwaJehovha pamusoro peIsrael hwakaguma pawakaparadzwa uye kwete makore apfuura izvi apo Mambo weBhabhironi akazvikunda ndokugadza mambo kuzoshanda pasi pake sevacal pasi.
Cheshanu, isu tinofanirwa kufunga kuti kutsikwa kwakamira kuve parudzi rwevaIsraeri pane imwe nguva ndokutanga kunyorera kuungano yechiKristu. Iyi ipfungwa inonetsa zvakanyanya, nekuti Jesu anoratidza pana Ruka 21:24 kuti kutsikwa kwaive kuguta chairo reJerusarema uye nerudzi rweIsrael parwaiparadzwa uye rwakaitika muna 70 CE Ungano yechiKristu yaivapo nguva iyoyo kweanoda kusvika makore makumi mana. Saka ungano yakanga isiri kutsikwa nekushaya mambo pamusoro payo. Muchokwadi, dzidziso yedu pachezvayo inobvuma kuti yaive ina mambo pamusoro payo. Isu tinodzidzisa kuti Jesu anga achitonga samambo pamusoro peungano kubva muna 40 CE Saka pane imwe nguva mushure ma33 CE, rudzi chairwo rwevaIsraeri rwakamira kutsikwa-tsikwa nemarudzi uye ungano yechiKristu yakatanga kuva. Izvi zvinoreva kuti kutonga kwaMwari pamusoro peungano kwakapera panguva iyoyo. Zvakaitika rini chaizvo?
Chetanhatu: 1914 inoratidza kuguma kwenguva dzemamwe marudzi. Uku kufungidzira nekuti hapana humbowo kuti zvakaitika; hapana humbowo hunooneka hwekuti chinzvimbo chemarudzi chakachinja munzira ipi neipi inokosha yapaMagwaro. Nyika dzakaramba dzichitonga mushure megore ra1914 sezvavakanga vakaita pamberi payo. Kutaura mamwe mashoko Hama Russell, 'madzimambo avo achine zuva ravo.' Isu tinoti nguva dzemamwe marudzi dzakapera nekuti ndipo pakatanga Jesu kutonga kubva kudenga. Kana zvirizvo, saka hwaive humbowo hwemutemo iwoyo here? Izvi zvinotisvitsa mukufungidzira kwekupedzisira kunodiwa kutsigira kushandiswa kwaRuka 21:24 muchidzidzo chedu chebhaibheri.
Chenomwe: Kana kutsika kuchimiririra kupera kwekutonga nemarudzi pamusoro peungano yaKristu, saka chii chakachinja muna 1914? Jesu anga achitotonga pamusoro peungano yechiKristu kubva muna 33 CE Mabhuku edu anotsigira dzidziso iyoyo. Izvi zvisati zvaitika chiKristu chaiwanzo shungurudzwa nekushungurudzwa, asi chakaramba chichikunda. Mushure meizvozvo zvakaramba zvichishungurudzwa nekutambudzwa asi zvakaramba zvichikunda. Saka isu tinoti izvo zvakagadzwa muna 1914 hwaive hwaMesia Humambo. Asi kupi humbowo? Kana isu tisingade kupomerwa mhosva yekugadzira zvinhu, tinofanirwa kupa humbowo hweshanduko, asi hapana shanduko pakati pa1913 na1914 kuratidza kupera kwekutsikwa. Muchokwadi, zvinyorwa zvedu pachedu zvinoshandisa chipupuriro chemapupuriro maviri aZvakazarurwa 2: 11-1 kune iyo nguva kubva muna 4 kusvika muna 1914 zvichiratidza kuti kutsikwa kwacho kwakapfuura nguva yakatemwa.
An Kufunga Conundrum: Kudzidzisa kuti hwaMesiya Humambo hwakatangisa muna 1914 kunosimudzira chakakosha chirevo kwatiri. Mesia achatonga kwemakore chiuru. Saka tatova zana remakore mukutonga kwake. Izvo zvinosiya chete makore mazana mapfumbamwe kuti aende. Mutemo uyu ndewokuunza runyararo, zvakadaro makore zana ekutanga awo akanyanya kuteura ropa munhoroondo. Saka kana haana kutanga kutonga muna 1,000, kana akadaro uye Bhaibheri rakanga risiri iro. Zvichida ichi ndicho chimwe chezvikonzero nei tisingashandise mazwi ekuti "900" uye "Mesia Kingdom" mumutsara mumwe chete sezvataimboita. Zvino isu tinotaura nezvegore ra100 neUmambo hwaMwari, izwi rakajairika.
Saka hapana humbowo hunoonekwa kana hwerugwaro rwekuti Jesu akatanga kutonga zvisingaonekwi mumatenga mu1914. Hapana humbowo hwekuti nguva dzakatarwa dzemamwe marudzi dzakapera mugore iro. Hapana humbowo hunoratidza kuti Jerusarema, chairo kana rekufananidzira, rakamisa kutsika-tsika mugore iro.
Chii chatinofanira kutaura pamusoro pazvo?
Kukurukurirana kubva kuMagwaro rinoti:
Seizvo Jesu akaratidzira muuporofita hwake hunonongedzera kumhedziso yetsika yezvinhu, Jerusarema raizo “tsikwa-tsikwa namarudzi, kutozosvikira nguva dzakatemwa dzamarudzi” dzakwana. (Ruka 21:24) “Jerusarema” raimiririra Umambo hwaMwari nekuti madzimambo aro akanzi aigara “pachigaro choumambo chaJehovha.” (1 Mak. 28: 4, 5; Mat. 5:34, 35) Saka hurumende dzeVemamwe Marudzi, dzaimiririrwa nezvikara, 'dzaizotsika-tsika' kodzero yeUmambo hwaMwari yekutungamira nyaya dzevanhu uye dzaizotonga pasi paSatani. kuzvidzora. — Enzanisa naRuka 4: 5, 6. (rs p. 96 Misi)
Pane humbowo here - chero humbowo chero hupi zvahwo - hunoti kubva 1914 nyika dzakarega "kutungamira zviitiko zvevanhu" uye "havasisiri kutsika kodzero yeUmambo hwaMwari hwekutungamira zviitiko zvevanhu"?
Tine maoko nemakumbo mangani atinofanira kubvisa iyi nhema nhema asati abvuma kukundwa uye isu ngatipfuure?
Tichifunga nezvekushayikwa kweuchapupu hwekuti kutsika uko zvisungo zvese zvisingaratidzike kuti kwapera, pfungwa yedu yakadzoserwa naCameron nenzira iyo zvapupu zvese zvakajairwa. Anotarisa pane chokwadi chekuti 1914 raive gore rakatanga iro hondo yenyika yekutanga. Ikoko kunoreva nenzira youporofita here? Anonzwa kudaro, nekuti anoti pane peji 9, chikamu 2, "Nezve nguva yaaizotanga kutonga kudenga, Jesu akati:" Rudzi ruchamukira rudzi uye ushe huchamukira humambo, uye kuchave nekushomeka kwekudya nokudengenyeka kwenyika munzvimbo nenzvimbo. "
Chaizvoizvo, Jesu haana kutaura kuti kuvepo kwake kwaizoonekwa nezvizvi. Uku ndiko kumwe kududzira kusiri iko. Paakabvunzwa chiratidzo chekuratidza kuti achatanga kutonga riini uye magumo achauya, akaudza vateveri vake kuti vasatsauswe mukutenda kuti hondo, kudengenyeka kwenyika, nzara uye nhenda zviratidzo zvekuuya kwake. Akatanga nekunyevera kwete kutenda izvo zvinhu zvaive zviratidzo chaizvo. Verenga nhoroondo dzinotevera dzinoenderana. Jesu arikuti, "Pamunoona zvinhu izvi, zivai kuti ndakagadzwa samambo zvisingaonekwe kumatenga uye kuti mazuva ekupedzisira atanga"?
"4 Achipindura, Jesu akati kwavari: “Tarisa uone kuti hapana anokutsausa, 5 nekuti vazhinji vachauya nekuda kwezita rangu, vachiti, 'Ini ndiri Kristu,' uye vachitsausa vazhinji. 6 Iwe uchazonzwa nezvehondo uye neshumo dzehondo. Ona kuti hautye, nekuti zvinhu izvi zvinofanira kuitika, asi magumo haasati asvika. ”(Mt 24: 4-6)
“. . .Saka Jesu akatanga kuti kwavari: Chenjerai kuti murege kutsauswa nomunhu. 6 Vazhinji vachauya nekuda kwezita rangu, achiti, 'Ndini,' uye vachatsausa vazhinji. 7 Uyezve, pamunonzwa nezvehondo uye neshoko rehondo, musavhunduka; zvinhu izvi zvinofanira kuitika, asi kuguma kuchigere.”(Mr. 13: 5-7)
“. . . "Uyezve, kana chero munhu akati kwauri, 'Onai! Heano Kristu, 'kana,' Ona! Aripo iye, 'usazvitenda. 22 Nekuti vanaKristu venhema nevaporofita venhema vachamuka, vagoita zviratidzo nezvishamiso kutsausa, kana zvichibvira, ivo vakasarudzwa. 23 Iwe, ipapo, chenjera. Ndakuudza zvinhu zvese zvisati zvaitika. ”(Mr. 13: 21-23)
“. . Iye akati: “Chenjerai kuti murege kutsauswa, nokuti vazhinji vachauya nekuda kwezita rangu, vachiti, 'Ndini,' uye, 'Nguva yakakodzera yaswedera.' Usavatevera. 9 Uyezve, kana iwe uchinzwa zvehondo uye nenyonganiso, usatya. Nekuti izvi zvinhu zvinofanirwa kutanga kuitika, asi kuguma hakuzoitwe pakarepo. ”(Lu 21: 8, 9)
Jesu anototaura nezvemazuva ekupedzisira munhoroondo nhatu dzakafanana here? Anoti kuvapo kwake kunenge kusingaonekwi here? Muchokwadi, iye akataura zvakapesana mukati Mt 24: 30.
Zvino funga iyi ndima yekupedzisira.
“. . .Zvino kana chero munhu akati kwauri, 'Tarira! Heuno Kristu, 'kana kuti,' Uko! ' musazvitenda. 24 Nokuti vanaKristu venhema nevaporofita venhema vachamuka uye vachaita zviratidzo zvikuru nezvishamiso kuti vatsause, kana zvichibvira, kunyange vasanangurwa. 25 Tarira! Ndakakufananidza iwe. 26 Naizvozvo, kana vanhu vakati kwauri, 'Tarira! Ari murenje, 'musabuda; 'Tarira! Ari mumakamuri omukati, 'musatenda. 27 Nekuti semheni painobuda kumabvazuva ichipenyera kumadokero, kuchaita saizvozvo kuvapo kwoMwanakomana woMunhu. 28 Kupi kana chiri chitunha, ndipo panounganira magora. ”(Mt 24: 23-28)
Ndima 26 inotaura nezveavo vanoparidza kuvapo kusingaonekwe, kwakavanzika, kwakavanzika. Ari mudzimba dzemukati kana ari kunze murenje. Ose akavanzika kubva kune vakawanda, uye anozivikanwa chete kune avo "mune vanoziva". Jesu anotiyambira chaizvo kuti tisatende ngano dzakadai. Iye anobva atiudza kuti kuvapo kwake kucharatidzwa sei.
Isu tese takaona gore-kune-gore mheni. Inogona kucherechedzwa nemunhu wese, kunyangwe vanhu vari mumba. Chiedza chinobva pachiedza chinopinda pese pese. Hazvidi tsananguro, kana dudziro. Munhu wese anoziva kuti mheni yakapenya. Kunyange mhuka dzinozviziva. Ndiwo mufananidzo wakashandiswa naJesu kutiudza kuti kuvapo kweMwanakomana wemunhu kwaizozviratidza sei. Zvino, pane chero chinhu chakadai chakaitika muna 1914? Chero chii zvacho ??
In Summary
Chinovhara nyaya, Jon anoti: “Ndichiri kuedza kuputira musoro wangu pane izvi.” Anobva abvunza, "... sei izvi zvakaoma."
Chikonzero nei chakaomarara ndechekuti tiri kuregera kana kupenengura zvataurwa zvakajeka kuti tiite kuti pfungwa yedu yemhuka iite seinoshanda.
Jesu akati isu hatina kodzero yekuziva nezvemazuva akaiswa naMwari mune yake yekutonga. (Mabasa 1: 6,7Tinoti, kwete kudaro, tinogona kuziva nekuti tine rusununguko rwakakosha. Dhanieri 12: 4 inofanotaura kuti ticha “famba-famba” uye “zivo yechokwadi” ichawanda. Inosanganisirwa mune iyo "zivo yechokwadi" kuziva kwemazuva ayo zvinhu zvichaitika. Zvekare, imwe dudziro yekufungidzira yakamonyaniswa kuti ienderane nezvatinoda. Icho chokwadi chekuti takakanganisa zvisirizvo nezve edu ese mazuva echiporofita zvinoratidza kuti Mabasa 1: 7 haina kurasikirwa nechero simba rayo. Izvo hazvisi zvedu kuti tizive nguva nemwaka zvakaiswa naBaba mukutonga kwake.
Jesu akati tirege kuverenga zviratidzo muhondo uye nenjodzi dzinongoitika dzoga, asi isu tinongoita zvakadaro.
Jesu akati usatenda vanhu vanoti Jesu asvika mune imwe nzira yakavanzika kana kuti yakavanzika, asi isu tiri kutungamirwa nevanhu vakadaro. (Gomo 24: 23-27)
Jesu akati kuvapo kwake kwaizoonekwa kune wese munhu, kunyangwe pasi rese; saka isu tinoti, izvo zvinongoshanda chete kwatiri, Zvapupu zvaJehovha. Wese munhu haacherechedze mheni yakapenya muna 1914 (Gomo 24: 28, 30)
Chokwadi ndechekuti, dzidziso yedu ya1914 haina kuomarara, yakangoipa. Icho hachina chero chakareruka uye kuenderana kwemavara kwatave kutarisira kubva kuuporofita hweBhaibheri. Zvinosanganisira fungidziro dzakawanda uye zvinoda kuti tidudzire zvokwadi zhinji kwazvo dzakanyorwa zvakajeka zvekuti zvinoshamisa kuti chakapona kusvika parizvino. Inhema dzinomiririra dzidziso dzaJesu dzakajeka uye chinangwa chaJehovha. Manyepo arikushandiswa kubvuta masimba aIshe wedu nekutsigira pfungwa yekuti hutungamiriri hwedu hwakagadzwa naMwari kutonga pamusoro pedu.
Idzidziso ine nguva yakapfuura kare. Inodzedzerera mberi, semurume wemakore zana ekuberekwa, inotsigirwa nemapatya mapini ekudzidzisa uye kutyisidzira, asi munguva pfupi iwo mapiki achabviswa pasi payo. Ko zvino kune isu vedu takatenda muvanhu?
[…] Waive wehumambo, asi humambo huchauya, kwete humambo hwakagadzwa. (Mt 6: 9) Haisati yasimbiswa. Iwo mamwe makwai anoreva kumamwe marudzi, kwete imwe yechipiri ruponeso. Bhaibheri […]
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Isu tichasiya kutonga kuna Mwari, asi kana tichizobvuma kutongwa kwevanhu kwesangano redu pane zvimwe zvitendero kudzidzisa nhema, ipapo kutongwa kwedu pachedu kunodzoka pamisoro yedu nekuita chinhu chimwe chetecho.
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Ini handifungi zvakanyanya JW hanya kana zvisiri izvo, chinondishungurudza ndechekuti vazhinji veJW havanyatso kubvunza magwaro avanobvunza kuWT, iyi ndiyo nzira yakanyanya kutorwa, uye nekutenda kwavo kuti iri isangano raMwari. uye Jehovha haazombobvumire kuti izvi zvive zvisirizvo, isu tiri vanhu vaMwari uye ndizvo zvavanotenda uye havagone kufungidzira kuti chero chinhu chinouya kubva ku GB / FDS kunyanya nezve yavo 1914 hwaro inogona kunge isina kunaka.
Ini ndinobvumirana newe, Katrina. Izvi zvinoita kuti ndifunge nezvechivi cheungano yeRaodikia. (Zva 3: 14-18) Chivi chavo kwaiva kusava nehanya. Zvapupu zvakawanda zvinoshingaira, asi hazvibvi paruzivo rwechokwadi. Nharireyomurindi ndiyo Bhaibheri redu izvozvi. Chokwadi chekuti kudzidza kwesvondo rino chinopa mufananidzo wevaIsraeri muzuva raKora iri 180 degrees kubva pane zvinoratidzwa neBhaibheri zvichaenda zvisingacherechedzwe neanenge ese eZvapupu zvaJehovha. Vangani vanozoverenga iyo yese nhoroondo. Ini ndinoshamisika kuti vangani veavo vanozoita kunyange ipapo vanozoona kuti iyo account inovaratidza... Read more  »
Ini ndakangogarawo muhurukuro yechitatu yakatevedzana yerubhabhatidzo mune iyo zita raJesu kana nhau dzakanaka dzerudzikunuro nerudzikinuro kana kunyange yevadzidzi veChrisktian inoenda pasina kana chataurwa. Pana Mabasa 18:25 tinoverenga nezvaAporo, ainyatsoziva rugwaro asi achingoziva nerubhabhatidzo rwekutendeuka rwakaparidzwa naJohane. Nenzira imwechete iyo Priscila naAkwira vaifanira kumurayiridza nezve rubhabhatidzo munaJesu (vhesi 26), saka zvakare iko zvino makumi matatu ezvizvarwa zvevadzidzi vakabhabhatidzirwa muchifananidzo chesangano, asi pasina murayiridzo werugwaro muchiKristu. Nezvinoreva... Read more  »
Zvinosetsa… Vamwe maKristu havafungi kupfeka muchinjikwa senzira yekunamata zvifananidzo kana kunamata. Vanozviona senzira yekuzvizivisa sevaKristu.
Kupfeka JW. Org mabhatani, pini nezvimwe IMO haina kumbosiyana nekupfeka muchinjikwa. Kana muchinjikwa unonamata zvifananidzo ndizvo zvakaita mapini nemabhatani aya. BTW vadzidzi veBhaibheri havana kupfeka mapini zvakare?
Chii chinoitika ku “shambadzira, zivisa Mambo nehumambo hwake?
Ndezvipi izvi zveJOR ORG Pins uye mabheji .kev
Kune avo vasingazivikanwe neiyo itsva JW.ORG logo, Watchtower Headquarters mureza chivakwa muBrooklyn izvozvi mutambo muhuma yayo yekugadzira:
http://e-watchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/702014124_univ_lsr_lg.jpg
Ndinobvumirana newe, Katrina. Ingoteerera kune zvakataurwa panguva dzeMaonero eBhaibheri kubva kune Vakuru nevamwe vanongotora zvinyorwa zveNharireyomurindi. Ini ndinotaurira shamwari kuti dzitsvage yavo yekusimbisa; tsvaga chimwe chinhu chavakaverenga icho chinoshanda kwavari. Kana tichigara tichishandisa zvinoratidzwa nemumwe munhu saka hazvisi zvedu zvekusimbisa, uye hazvidi chero basa kune kwedu chikamu kunze kwekuenda kuWT Library.
Iyi tambo yakaita kuti ndifunge uye ndishanyirezve 2 VAKORINDE 11: 14-15 New International Version (NIV) 14 “Uye hazvishamise, nekuti naSatani pachake anozvishandura kunge ngirozi yechiedza. 15 Naizvozvo hazvishamisi, kana varanda vake vachizvishandura vachizviita savaranda vokururama. Kuguma kwavo kuchava zvakafanira mabasa avo. Pano tinoona kuti panogona kuve nevanhu vanogona kunyepedzera sevaranda vekururama. Cherekedza: "vanhu vari varanda vekururama", zvichireva kuti varikuitawo mabasa akarurama. Nekuda kwechimiro chekururama, zvaisazove nyore kuvasiyanisa neavo vechokwadi. Shall... Read more  »
Ndinokutendai zvakare zvakare nezve chinyorwa chakanyatsofungidzirwa uye chakanyorwa zvakanaka. Izvi chaizvo zvinhu zvinopisa kana ndichifunga nezvazvo, nekuti zvazvinovira ndeichi: Kwete 1914 = Kwete 1919 = Hapana Akagadzwa FDS / GB Izvi zvinoreva kuti izvozvi GB vanongozvisarudzira varume vanobata chinzvimbo nesimba ivo ita na. sekutaura kwako, kudzidzisa uye kutyisidzira. Hapana chimwe cheichi chinodiwa chinodedera rutendo rwedu munaIshe kana zvipikirwa zviri zvechokwadi muIzwi raMwari, uye hazvifanirwe kutitadzisa kuratidza isu tiri "vakamuka" nekuve vechokwadi maKristu mune zvese isu... Read more  »
Ndatenda nebasa rawakaisa muchinyorwa chino, zvinonyatsoratidza. Ndakafarira chirevo cheMonty Python, asi kunyanya kusimbisa kwawakawedzera kuna Ruka 21: 8,9. Ini ndaigara ndichisimudza Jesu achireva maMesiya enhema ayo ariwo munhoroondo dzakafanana dzevhangeri uye kwete zvakanyanya pane "nguva yakatarwa yave pedyo, USAVATEVEDZE". Ini ndinongoona zvichinakidza, nekuti Jesu zviri pachena kuti haasi kupokana nezano rake rekuti "ramba wakamuka", uye "ramba wakarimirira", nekuti ndiro basa remuKristu mumwe nemumwe. Zvinoratidzika kwandiri... Read more  »
Joel, ndakagovana zvaunofunga chaizvo pandakaverenga chinyorwa ichi!
Tinotenda meleti nekuziva kwako kuita rugwaro. Ive unosvika pakufunga kumwechete .Nguva yakawanda inoenderera mberi. Zvandinoverenga kuverenga bhaibheri Kunyanya kufunga uye kufunga Zvimwe dzidziso ye1914 iyi iri kurira ichicrous .Tinongofanira kutarisa nyika nekuvhura maziso edu kuti tizive kuti zvine musoro .kev
Meleti urikuti dzidziso idzi dzakakanganisika ?????
Dzidziso yekuti 1914 igore iro Kristu akatanga kutonga samambo weumambo hwaMesiya ndeenhema. Semhedzisiro, zvese zvichienderana nedzidziso iyoyo, sekudonha kweBabironi panguva iyoyo, kucheneswa kweungano dzechiKristu uye kugadzwa kwema1919 kwemuranda akatendeka, akangwara, zvakare kwakaipa. Kuzadzika kwechiporofita kwese kwatakasungira makore iwayo (1914, 1918, 1919, 1922, nezvimwewo) semhedzisiro isiriyo. Tinofanira kutarisa kumwe kumwe kuzadzikiswa kwendiro nenhamo dzaZvakazarurwa, nekuti hazvina kuzadzikiswa nemumwe kuverenga... Read more  »
Anodiwa hama, iwe bvisa iyo 1914 hwaro dzidziso, uye zvimwe zvese zvinowira kunge imba yemakadhi. Ini ndauya nechinhu ichi kumukadzi wangu uye haana kuzvinzwa zvakanaka nezvazvo. Akataura chimwe chakadai: “Kana tisiri mumazuva ekupedzisira, saka chinangwa chei chekuparidza tisina pfungwa yekukurumidzira? Vanhu vachangorega. ” Ndakamuudza kuti tinofanirwa kuramba takarinda sekunyeverwa kwakaitwa vateveri vake naJesu Kristu kare, kuti hapana chikonzero chekuimba nemazuva ekupedzisira kuti maKristu akurudzirwe kuparidza uye... Read more  »
Ini handidi kuti iwe wakapindura kuti meleti its yedu yekurwara yekuseka kutenderera pazvikamu zvedu izvo zvakaita kuti ndibvunze mubvunzo wakadaro .Kunyange zvakadaro kutenda kwemhinduro yako uye ndinofanira kutaura zvakakomba panguva ino ndinobvuma chose. Kev
Hongu zvakanyatsoratidzwa Meleti ini ndaive nezviratidzo zveMonty Python's argument sketch. VaBheriya- “Saka makore chiuru -1000- 100 = makore 900 ekutonga kwaKristu asara?” GB- "Kwete hazviiti!" Beroean- "Ndo zvatiri kutaura!" GB- “Kwete wako kwete” Bheriya- “Hongu uriko” GB- “Kwete hatisi” maBheriya- “Saka makore chiuru ekutonga haasati atanga?” GB- "Hongu ine" veBheriya- "Uye isu tine makore zana mairi?" GB- "Hongu tiri!" VaBheriya- “Uye makore avo asvika mazana mapfumbamwe kuti aende” GB- “Aiwa hakuna” Bherea- ”Tarisai ndauya pano kuzokurukura nezveBhaibheri” GB- “Kwete hauna, wauya pano... Read more  »
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Ivo havadzidzise izvozvi kuti iyo chiuru chemakore kutonga kuchazotanga chete kana vese 1000 vari kudenga? Ndine urombo asi nemafiripi avo ese ari kunyonganisa.
Hongu. Muchokwadi, takagara tichidzidzisa kuti makore chiuru anotanga mushure meAmagedhoni. Russell akafunga kuti 1,000 ndiko kutanga kwekutambudzika kukuru. Saka kutanga kutonga kwemakore chiuru kwakazoita zvine musoro uye kwaienderana nemamwe magwaro ane chekuita nedingindira irori. Rutherford akafunga zvakare kuti Kutambudzika Kukuru kwakatanga muna 1914. Kwenguva yakati akafunga kuti chikamu chechipiri cheGT chaizouya muna 1,000, asi apo izvo zvikasaitika, zuva racho rakafambiswa mberi. Franz naKnorr vakafungawo kuti GT yakatanga muna 1914, uye chikamu chechipiri (Amagedhoni) chaive padhuze. Yakanga isiri iyo iyo iyo... Read more  »
w14 01/15 pp. 16 para. 14-15: “Kunyange hazvo Jehovha akapfekedza Mwanakomana wake, Jesu Kristu, saMambo Mesiya muna 1914, iyi yanga isiri mhinduro izere kumunyengetero wedu wekuti“ Umambo hwenyu ngahuuye. ” Patinonyengeterera kuti Umambo hwaMwari huuye, tiri kukumbira Mwari kuti Mambo Mesiya uye vaanotonga navo vauye kuzogumisa kutonga kwevanhu nekubvisa vapikisi voUmambo vepanyika. Nguva yekuti izvi zviitike yave pedyo chaizvo. Zvakanakirei kuti rugwaro rwedu rwegore rwa2014, gore rechi100 rekugadzwa kweUmambo hwaMwari kudenga, ndiMateu 6:10:... Read more  »
Seye dhanzi redhisheni, munhu anofanirwa kuona chaiye mambo chaiye achiparadza vamire-panzvimbo yake, vano chengetedza bhiriji kufambisira mberi kufambira mberi.
Mupfungwa yekudzidzira kufemerwa kwakafanana kwakanyorwa zvakadzama neimwe yenyanzvi yeJW yakanga isingafambidzani nekuda kwekuburitswa kwayo kwechokwadi. Verenga rebuttal yake apa:
http://kristenfrihet.se/english/gtr4/9%20gtr4%20rev%20kap7.pdf
Thanks Meleti, waita zvakanaka uye wakasvinwa wakaratidzwa. Kutaura chokwadi, kwandiri iyi dzidziso izere uye nemhedzisiro yainayo (uye inofanirwa kuve zvichienderana neDC) pane iyo yose seJWGoogle inondipa isinganakidze. Ini ndinoshamisika kana dzidziso pamusoro pegehena moto chero yakaipa sezvo dzidziso mbiri idzi dzinoshandiswa kudzora nekufurira maitiro enhengo.
Takanzwisisa kuti tiri mumazuva ekupedzisira nekuti tine ruzivo rwakakosha (Dhan. 12.4). Uye isu tine ruzivo rwakakosha nekuti tiri mumazuva ekupedzisira.
Ini ndinofungidzira iyi yedzidziso diki hula-hoop inopona nekuti tinoramba tichikanganiswa nehudyu dzakanaka dzeparadhiso iri kuuya.
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Iyo Black Knight rejenesi, kune avo vasingazive dhidhiti sketch, inoonekwa pa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvqhk7YDH9U
Hmm
kunyora kukuru uye ditto bobcat3
Ongororo yakanyorwa zvakanaka, Meleti. Ndinoda kupurinda izvi ndozviisa pamusuwo weKK nenzira yakafanana nekutumira kwaMartin Luther kwake 95 thesis.
Bobcat
Izvi zvinounza mubvunzo unonakidza: Dai isu taizama kuronga chinhu chakadai, vangani vaizozviita? Uye HQ, kana vangazivawo nezvayo, vanyore tsamba kuungano dzese paPasi vachivaraira kuti vatumire murindi?
Ini ndinofungidzira kana zuva racho risina kusarudzwa kusvika zuva rapfuura, HQ ingadai isina nguva yekuita. Zvingave zvakanaka here kana ichiiswa mukati, saka ivo vanozoziva vanoshanda, makiyi-akatakura maJWs ndiwo aibvunza mibvunzo?
Nyaya iripo ndeyekuti zvingave zvisingaite kusvika kune chero munhu. Munhu wekutanga kuona tsamba yaigona kuibvarura oirasa. Sezvo isu tichigona kupupura pachedu pachedu, kudzamara munhu agadzirira kumuka, ivo vanozotarisa neziso kune chero ruzivo, kunyangwe rukakandirwa pamberi pavo.