Muchinyorwa chaOctober 2021 cheNharireyomurindi, pane chinyorwa chekupedzisira chakanzi "1921 One Hundred Years Ago". Inoratidza mufananidzo webhuku rakabudiswa mugore iroro. Hezvinoi. The Harp of God, rakanyorwa naJ. F. Rutherford. Pane chakaipa pamufananidzo uyu. Unoziva here kuti chii? Ndichakupa zano. Harisi iro bhuku rakabudiswa gore iroro, zvakanaka, kwete chaizvo. Zvatiri kuona pano zvishoma zverevisionist nhoroondo. Zvakanaka, chii chakashata pamusoro pazvo, ungati?
Mubvunzo wakanaka. Hedzino dzimwe nheyo dzeBhaibheri dzandinoda kuti tirangarire tisati tawana chakaipa pamufananidzo uyu.
VaHebheru 13:18 inoti: “Tinyengetererei, nokuti tine chokwadi chokuti tine hana [yakachena], tichida kuita zvakanaka muzvinhu zvose.” ( VaHebheru 13:18 , NW )
Ipapo Pauro anotiudza kuti tinofanira ku“bvisa nhema, [uye] mumwe nomumwe wenyu ataure zvokwadi nomuvakidzani wake, nokuti isu [tose] tiri mitezo yomumwe nomumwe.” (VaEfeso 4:25).
Pakupedzisira, Jesu anotiudza kuti: “Akatendeka pazviduku zvikuru achavawo akatendeka pazvikuru, uye uyo asina kutendeka pazviduku zvikuru achavawo asina kutendeka pazvikuru. (Ruka 16:10 BSB)
Zvino chii chakaipa pamufananidzo uyu? Nyaya yacho iri kutaura nezvezviitiko zvine chokuita neWatch Tower Society kubvira makore zana apfuura, mugore ra1921. Papeji 30 yemagazini yazvino yaOctober 2021, pasi pomusoro muduku unoti “BHUKU ITSVA!”, tinoziviswa kuti bhuku iri. Rudimbwa rwaMwari yakauya munaNovember wegore iroro. Hazvina kudaro. Bhuku iri rakazobuda makore mana gare gare, muna 1925. Heinoi Rudimbwa rwaMwari iyo yakabuda muna 1921.
Nei vasiri kuratidza butiro rebhuku chairo ravari kutaura nezvaro munyaya yacho? Nekuti pabutiro rekutanga, pakanyorwa kuti “HUMBOMBO HWOKUTI MAMIRIYONI ARI KURARAMA ZVINO HAACHAMBOFA”. Nei vachivanzira vateveri vavo izvozvo? Neiko, sezvakataurwa naPauro, ‘vasingatauri chokwadi nomuvakidzani wavo’? Ungafunga kuti chinhu chiduku, asi tangoverenga apo Jesu akati “munhu asina kutendeka pazvinhu zviduku duku achavawo asina kutendeka pane zvizhinji.”
Zita iroro rinomborevei chaizvo?
Tichidzokera kuchinyorwa chiri muNharireyomurindi yazvino, yaOctober 2021, tinoverenga musumo:
“Saka, nderipi basa chairo ratinogona kuona pamberi pedu kwegore?” Nharireyomurindi yechiNgezi yaJanuary 1, 1921, yakabvunza mubvunzo uyu kuVadzidzi veBhaibheri vaiva nechido. Mukupindura, yakanokora mashoko Isaya 61:1, 2 , iyo yakavayeuchidza nezvebasa ravo rokuparidza. “Jehovha akandizodza kuti ndiparidzire vanyoro mashoko akanaka . . . , kuti ndiparidze gore rengoni dzaShe, nezuva rokutsiva raMwari wedu.”
Ndine chokwadi chokuti chero Chapupu chaJehovha chinorava icho nhasi chichangosvetukira kumhedziso yokuti “basa chairo” riri kutaurwa nderokuparidzwa kwamashoko akanaka sezvinoita Zvapupu zvaJehovha nhasi. Aihwa!
Shure panguva iyeyo, igorei rinogamuchirika raShe? Raiva gore chairo. 1925!
The Bulletin yaOctober 1920, chinyorwa chomwedzi nomwedzi cheWatch Tower Society, chakagovera Vadzidzi veBhaibheri venguva yacho neiyi nhungamiro yokuparidza:
Ini ndichambomira ndichiverenga izvi nekuti pane akati wandei asina kururama anoda kuzivikanwa. Ndiri kushandisa izwi rekuti “zvisina kururama” kunzvenga rimwezve izwi rekunyomba.
"Mangwanani akanaka!"
“Munoziva here kuti mamiriyoni ari kurarama zvino haazofi?
“Ndiri kungoreva zvandinotaura—kuti mamiriyoni ari kurarama zvino haasati achizotongofa.
“'The Finished Mystery', bhuku raPastor Russell pashure porufu, rinotaura chikonzero nei kune mamiriyoni ari kurarama zvino asingazombofi; uye kana uchikwanisa kuramba uri mupenyu kusvika 1925 une mikana yakanaka yekuve mumwe wavo.
Iri rakanga risiri basa raRussell afa. Bhuku racho rakanyorwa naClayton James Woodworth naGeorge Herbert Fisher pasina mvumo neWatch Tower Executive Committee, asi nechirevo chaJoseph Franklin Rutherford.
“Kubva muna 1881 munhu ari wose akaseka shoko raPastor Russell neInternational Bible Students Association rokuti Bhaibheri rakaporofita nezvehondo yenyika muna 1914; asi hondo yakasvika panguva, uye zvino shoko rebasa rake rokupedzisira, ‘mamiriyoni ari kurarama zvino haasati achizotongofa’, riri kurangarirwa zvakakomba.
Bhaibheri harina kuprofita nezvehondo yenyika muna 1914. Kana usina chokwadi nazvo, ona vhidhiyo iyi.
“Ichokwadi chakakwana, chinotaurwa mubhuku riri rose reBhaibheri, rakafanotaurwa nomuprofita ari wose weBhaibheri. Ndinotenda kuti unobvuma kuti nyaya iyi yakakodzera nguva yemanheru kuti iongororwe.
Okay, idzi inhema dzinotyisa. Bhuku rose reBhaibheri, muporofita wose weBhaibheri, ose anotaura pamusoro pemamiriyoni ari kurarama zvino asingafi? Ndapota.
“'The Finished Mystery' inogona kuwanikwa ne$1.00.
“Kuitira kuti avo vanorarama vagoziva kuvapo chaikoiko kweiyi nhambo, The Golden Age, magazini inobuda kaviri vhiki, inobata nezviitiko zvazvino uno zvinoratidzira kugadzwa kweGolden Age—nguva apo rufu ruchaguma.
Zvakanaka, chokwadi ichocho hachina kushanda sezvakarongwa, ndizvo here?
“Kuzvinyoresa kwegore i$2.00, kana kuti zvose zviri zviviri bhuku nemagazini zvinogona kuwanwa nokuda kwe$2.75.
“'The Finished Mystery' inotaura chikonzero nei mamiriyoni ari kurarama zvino asingazombofi, uye The Golden Age icharatidza kufara nenyaradzo kuseri kwerima uye rinotyisa—zvose nokuda kwembiri-makumi manomwe neshanu” (usataure madhora).
Vaitenda zvechokwadi kuti mugumo waizosvika muna 1925, kuti vakatendeka vekare vakadai saAbrahamu, Mambo Dhavhidhi, naDhanieri vaizomutswa kuti vararame panyika uye vaizogara muUnited States. Vakatotenga imba yekurara gumi muSan Diego, California kuti vagare ndokuitumidza "Beth Sarim".
Chikamu ichocho chenhau yesangano ndechechokwadi uye chiripo mukunyorwa, uye mumwoyo nendangariro dzavarume navakadzi vakaodzwa mwoyo—sezvo mugumo usina kuuya uye vakatendeka vekare vakanga vasingaonekwi. Zvino, tinogona kuregerera zvese izvo semhando dzezvikanganiso zvine vavariro yakanaka izvo varume vasina kukwana vanoshingaira vanogona kuita. Ndine chokwadi chokuti ndingadai ndakadaro, kudai ndakaziva zvose izvi pandakanga ndiri Chapupu chaJehovha chakazvipira zvizere. Chokwadi, uporofita hwenhema. Izvozvo hazvigoni kupikiswa. Vakaporofita kuti chimwe chinhu chaizoitika vonyora kufanotaura ikoko, saka zvinoita kuti, netsanangudzo yaDhuteronomi 18:20-22, vave muprofita wenhema. Zvakadaro, nekupihwa izvo, ndingadai ndichiri kufuratira, nekuda kwemakore ekugadzirisa. Kunyanguvezvo, zvinhu zvakadaro zvakanga zvava kutanga kundinetsa sezvatakapinda muna 21st remakore.
Makore apfuura, pandaidya kudya kwemanheru nedzimwe shamwari dzeJW, aimbova piyona uye aimbova murume wake wepaBheteri, ndakazviwana ndava kunyunyuta pamusoro pezvinhu zviri musangano. Vakanetsekana ndokundibvunza chandaive ndagumbuka chaizvo. Ndakaona kuti ndaisakwanisa kuzviisa mumashoko pakutanga, asi mushure memaminetsi mashoma ekufunga, ndakati, “Ndinoda kuti vabvume kukanganisa kwavo.” Zvakandinetsa kuti havana kumbokumbira ruregerero pane zvavakanga vashandura, uye vaiwanzopomera vamwe, kana kuti vakashandisa chivakashure kuti vanzvenga mhosva yakananga, semuenzaniso, “zvaifungwa” (Ona w16 Mibvunzo Inobva Kuvaverengi). Ivo havasati vave yavo kusvika 1975 fiasco, semuenzaniso.
Zvatinazvo muchinyorwa chino hausiwo muenzaniso wesangano risingaite chikanganiso chakapfuura, asi kutobuda munzira yekuchivhara. Ichocho ndicho chinhu chatinofanira kuva nehanya nacho chaizvoizvo here? Nokuda kwemhinduro, ndicharega sangano richitaura.
Mukukurukura kuti nei tichigona kutenda kuti Bhaibheri ishoko raMwari, 1982 Watchtower yaiti:
Chimwe chinhu chinoratidza kuti Bhaibheri rinobva kuna Mwari kutaura chokwadi kwevanyori varo. Sei? Kutanga, zvinopesana nazvo hunhu hwevanhu hwakatadza kubvuma kukanganisa, kunyanya pakunyora. Muna ikoku, Bhaibheri rinosiyaniswa namamwe mabhuku ekare. Asi, kupfuura izvozvo, kutendeseka kwevanyori varo kunotivimbisa kutendeseka kwavo kwose. vanoratidza kusava nesimba kwavo vobva vataura zvenhema nezvezvimwe zvinhu, vangadaro here? Kana vaizonyepera chimwe chinhu, haaizova mashoko asina kunaka pamusoro pavo here? Saka, kutendeseka kwevanyori veBhaibheri kunowedzera simba kuchipo chavo chokuti Mwari akavatungamirira mune zvavakanyora.— 2 Timotio 3:16 .
(w82-CA 12/15 p. 5-6)
Kutendeseka kwevanyori veBhaibheri kunotivimbisa kutendeseka kwavo kwose. Hmm, izvo zvinodzokera kumashure hazvingave zvechokwadi here. Kana tikaona kuti hapana kutendeseka, izvozvo hazvingaiti kuti tinyumwire chokwadi chezvavakanga vachinyora here? Kana tikashandisa mashoko iwayo zvino kuvanyori vezvinyorwa zveZvapupu zvaJehovha, vanoruramisa sei? Kutora zvakare kubva ku1982 Watchtower: "Pamusoro pazvo, ivo havangangoratidzira kushaya simba kwavo vobva vataura zvenhema nezvezvimwe zvinhu, vangadaro? Kana vaizonyepera chimwe chinhu, haaizova mashoko asina kunaka pamusoro pavo here?”
Hmm, “kana vaizonyepera chimwe chinhu, haaizova mashoko asina kunaka pamusoro pavo here”?
Handina kumboziva nezvechiporofita chakakundikana chesangano munenge muna 1925 kutozosvikira ndasiya sangano. Vakabvisa nyadzi idzi patiri tose. Uye nanhasi vachiri kuramba vachidaro. Sezvo mabhuku ekare, se Rudimbwa rwaMwari, dzakabviswa mumaraibhurari ehoro dzose dzoUmambo kupota nyika nomurayiro womutumbi unodzora makore akati apfuura, chapupu cheavhareji chaitarira uyu mufananidzo ndokufunga kuti iri rakanga riri bhuku rakazadzwa nezvokwadi yeBhaibheri iro rakabudiswa zvomenemene muna 1921 .Vaisazomboziva kuti iyi butiro yakanga yachinjwa kubva mubutiro rokutanga rakabudiswa muna 1921 iro rakanga rine kutaura kunonyadzisa kwokuti bhuku racho rakanga rine ufakazi hunopwisa hwokuti mamiriyoni akanga ari kurarama panguva iyeyo aizoona mugumo, mugumo uyo rimwe bhuku renguva iyoyo, chinyorwa cha1920. ye Mamirioni Ari Kurarama Zvino Haazombofi, inonzi yaizouya muna 1925.
Tingakwanisa kufuratira zvikanganiso zvakawanda izvo sangano rakaita kudai vakatevedzera vanyori veBhaibheri kupfurikidza nokubvuma zvikanganiso zvavo nokupfidza nokuda kwavo. Pane kudaro, vanobuda munzira yavo yekuvanza kukanganisa kwavo nekushandura nekunyorazve nhoroondo yavo. Kana kutendeseka kwevanyori veBhaibheri kuchitipa chikonzero chokudavira kuti Bhaibheri nderechokwadi uye nderechokwadi, zvinopesana zvinofanirawo kuva zvechokwadi. Kushaikwa kwechokwadi uye kuvharwa nemaune kwezvivi zvekare, chiratidzo chekuti sangano harigone kuvimbwa kuti rizivise chokwadi. Izvi ndizvo zvinodaidzwa nenyanzvi dzemutemo, “muchero wemuti une chepfu”. Unyengeri uhwu, kunyorwazve kwenhoroondo yavo nguva dzose kuti vavanze kutadza kwavo, kunopokana nedzidziso yavo yese. Kuvimba kwaparara.
Vanyori veNharireyomurindi vanofanira kufungisisa magwaro aya vachinyengetera.
“Miromo inoreva nhema inonyangadza Jehovha, asi vanoita nokutendeka vanomufadza.” ( Zvirevo 12:22 )
“Nokuti tine hanya nezvinhu zvose nokutendeseka, kwete pamberi paJehovha bedzi, asi pamberi pavanhu.’” ( 2 VaK.
“Musareverana nhema. Bvisai munhu wekare nemabasa ahwo.”— VaKorose 3:9 .
Asi zvinosuruvarisa kuti havazoteereri zvavanoudzwa neBhaibheri ravo kuti vaite. Chikonzero ndechokuti vanoshumira vanatenzi vavo, nhengo dzeDare Rinodzora, kwete Ishe wedu Jesu. Sezvaakanyevera amene, kuti: “Hakuna ungabatira vatenzi vaviri; nokuti zvimwe achavenga mumwe oda mumwe wacho, kana kuti achanamatira kuno mumwe ozvidza mumwe wacho. . . .” ( Mateu 6:24 )
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Vi è un libro “rivelazione il grande culmine” n cui nell'edizione vecchia di affermava che la fine arrivava entro il 2000 non mi ricordo dove però….
Je me demande si ces livres anciens sont disponibles et consultables, pour la famille du bethel à Warwick.
Pour ma part, ayant fait partie de la famille du béthel de France avec mon mari, je ne les ai jamais vus dans la bibliothèque.
Si cette édition de « La Harpe de Dieu » (1921) se trouve dans la bibliothèque à Warwick, peut-être que cela en fera réfléchir quelques-uns sur l'honnêteté et la confiance à accordere ".
Vagara vachitaura kuti havasi maProphets saka vanobvuma kukanganisa kwavo. Zvisinei handizvo zvazviri chaizvo. Vakambotaura pachena kare kuti vaiva vaporofita. Ndiri kutora mashoko mubhuku rinonzi The Nations shall know kuti ndini Jehovah how? Rakabudiswa muna 1971 peji 70.
“Pasinei nokuti chiKristudhomu chinoona sei kana kuti chinorangarira sei iri boka reZvapupu zvakazodzwa zvaJehovha, nguva inofanira kusvika uye kuti nokukurumidza, apo avo vanoumba chiKristudhomu vachaziva kuti zvomenemene MUPOROFITA waJehovha akanga ari pakati pavo”
Ndatenda, yobec. Ndakaverenga bhuku iroro. Ndakanga ndiri piyona wenguva dzose mugore raro rokubudiswa. Matauriro akadai akave chikamu che "yekutenda system" yedu, senge komputa app inogara ichimhanya kumashure.
Iwe wakangopa zera rako LOL
Kwete chaizvo. Chatinongoziva ndechekuti iye mukuru pane makumi manomwe, asi zvinoreva kuti anogona kunge ari makumi manomwe neshanu, makumi manomwe neshanu, makumi masere nemashanu, kana makumi mapfumbamwe pane zvese zvatinoziva. Asi isu tinoziva chinhu chimwe chete ... lol. ;P
Rajeshsony, uri troll. Hausi hama yangu kana shamwari yangu. Ibva warega kundinetsa. Handidi kuva nechekuita newe.
??? Ndanga ndisiri kutaura newe. Ndaitaura namukoma yobec. Iwe unofanirwa kugadzirisa zvakare chimiro chako pane iyo mhinduro yakakodzera kune mumwe munhu asina kutaura izwi kwauri; Ndinogona kukuudza chinhu chimwe chete, kuti hakusi kuti “enda worega kundinetsa,” kana kuti “uri troll,” kana kuti “Handidi kuva nechokuita newe.” Kana usingakwanisi kuzvidzora uye kungotaura zvinhu zvakadaro, zvino zvichida chinhu chikuru chaungaita ndechokusataura chero chinhu; zvisinei... Read more  »
Rajeshsony ndambokuudza kuti enda unondisiya ndega. Handidi zvekutaura newe. Funga nezvenyaya yako.
Handidi zvekutaura newe
Saka sei watanga imwe? Zvinoita sekuti kana mumwe munhu asingadi kuita chimwe chinhu ekupedzisira chinhu chavanoda ndicho chinhu. Ndanga ndisiri kutaura newe; Handina kuda kutanga nyaya newe. Zvose zviri pauri. Saka, teerera kune rako zano uye rega kutanga kutaura ne "troll."
Rajeshsony, uri troll. Ibva pano. Iwe haufanirwe kunge uri pane ino webhusaiti. Unongokonzera bongozozo chete.
Tarisa, hama yangu. Ini handina kuvakwa ini. Ndine hurombo nezvese zvandakakuitirai. Mungandiregererewo here? Ndinoda kuenderera mberi. Saka, chenjera, iva nevhiki yakanaka. 🙂
2 vasingadi? Ndinofunga vanhu havadi kuti ndisiye webhusaiti ino. Awww. Izvozvo zvinofadza mwoyo wangu. Hmmm, ok varume, ndichagara! Asi chete nokuti makandikumbira. ¡Te veo pronto! 😉
Rajeshsony, ibva pandiri. Uri troll. Ndisiye
Ngatisaite zvekudaidza mazita.
Rajeshsony, ndakakuudza, uye ndiri kukuudza zvakare ikozvino, hausi hama yangu. Gara kure neni.
Ah, munoona mhinduro yangu? Ndakafunga kuti ndavharirwa. Phew.
Ok, chokwadi, ndichagara kure newe. Chenjerai, muve nezuva rakanaka. 🙂
Rajeshsony, Enda. Uri troll.
Ehe, RajeshSony, zvakanakisa kuti uzviite nekuda kwerunyararo. Ndatenda.
Mukoma Rajeshsony…. Ini pachangu handina kugumbuka nemakakatanwa ako… asi ndinokumbira kusataura munyika dzese ndichisiya mukana wekuti vamwe vataure zvavanofunga….. uye kuti usazofungira zvakare pfungwa dzako kana bhaibheri risingatikumbire chimwe chinhu nekuti zvinonetesa. uye kutambisa nguva ….. Tiri muforamu ino nekuti tine rudo kuchokwadi uye takamuka nechimiro cheSangano chaicho …… Takadzidza chokwadi chakawanda chakakosha kuburikidza nesaiti ino izvo zviri kutibatsira munharaunda yedu. hupenyu….... Read more  »
Ndinotenda zvikuru, mukoma Aleks. 😀
Hongu, yobec.
Apo bhuku iroro rakabudiswa ndakanga ndichidzidzisa mumwe mutauro kuboka rezvapupu zvakanga zvauya kuzobatira uko kushaiwa kukuru. Iyi purogiramu yakanga yatangwa neSosaiti
Zvinosekesa kuti tine ndangariro dzakajeka sei…kudzoswa nebhuku!
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Ini ndinosvika sei kuEric pane yake email?
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Okay thanks. Ndichazviita chirairo chisati chasvika. Dzave 12:30 pm pano izvozvi
Ndakapa Eric ruzivo
Ndatenda, yobec. Ndichakuwona gare gare.
Ndine meseji yako, yobec. Thanks nekunyora. Uri pane imwe foramu kunze kweiyi here? Ndinoda kutaura zvakawanda nezvemitauro uye zviitiko zveexjw. Asi kwete pano.
Ndakabvunza Eric kana aigona kukupa e-mail address yangu
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Uye zvose izvi achangogadzwa somuranda akatendeka muna 1919! ! Ndinoshamisika kuti Jesu angadai akafungei (dai akavagadza). Chimwe chinyorwa chikuru uye chakaonekwa zvakanaka, Eric. Ndakakwanisa kuwana yebrown yepakutanga 1st edition paInternet, uye zvechokwadi inotaura, pabutiro rekutanga, kuti Humbowo hunogutsa mamirioni ari kurarama zvino haazofi. Handina chokwadi chekuti mufananidzo usiriwo wakaitwa nemaune here kana kuti unongoratidza kuti vakatobvisa zvakadii kubva pazviwanikwa zvavo. Mangani emacope ebhuku rimwe chete avanofanira kuva nawo? Ingori imwe... Read more  »
Nezve zvekuvanza zvinhu, Fred Franz, aimbova VP wesangano reWatchtower, akapa hurukuro kukirasi yekupedza kudzidza yeGiriyedhi ya1972 maakapinda mune zvakadzama kuratidza kuti pakanga pasina chinhu chakadai sedare rinodzora muzana ramakore rekutanga. Edza sezvandingaite, handichakwanise kuwana iyo hurukuro yezwi chero painternet. Pandinongofunga kuti ndaona chimwe chinhu, ndinobaya pairi uye ndinoudzwa kuti haichawanikwi.
Zvine hukama zvakanyanya chinhu ichi chakatumirwa pa reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/a8xlgp/according_to_fred_franz_there_is_no_governing_body/
Pachibatanidza pane chirevo kubva mubhuku rinonzi "Crisis of Conscience", pp. 92-96, apo Ray Franz anotaura nyaya imwechete pamusoro paFred Franz.
Ndinotenda kuti ndazviwana, yobec, nekuda kweruzivo rwako. Kutanga neslide 75 kumberi, uye kunyanya masiraidhi 95, 96, uye 97, ruzivo urwu rwuri kutonhora. Ini handina kupinda, uye handisati ndanzwa odhiyo, asi ini ndichazviita izvozvi.
https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/33662-gilead-grad-talk-59th-class-by-frederick-w-franz/
Zvinosuruvarisa kuti saiti yenhau munyika yose, yandadudza pamusoro apa, ine chinyorwa chemasiraidhi chete, asi kwete mashoko ehurukuro yokupedza kudzidza kweGiriyedhi ya1972 yaFred Franz.
Scribd ane, sezvakaita, runyoro rwaFred Franz rwakataipa nokuda kwehurukuro iyoyo yokupedza kufunda yeGilead ya1972. Uye chinyorwa chataipa chine zvinyorwa zvidiki, zvekugadzirisa nemaoko.
https://www.scribd.com/document/303423532/Watchtower-Fred-Franz-Gilead-Talk-September-7-1975
Ndatenda neruzivo. Ndakavawana vese pane imwe nguva asi wandisina kuwana ndiye wandakanga ndiine inzwi rakarekodhwa raFred paaipa hurukuro yake. Izvozvo zvinenge zvapera
Heino audio paYouTube. 🙂 Ini ndinofunga "chikamu chakanaka" chinotanga panenge maminetsi makumi maviri nerimwe, kana iwe uchinetseka kuti usvike pazviri. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqAmFPjNY0w
Ndotenda kwazvo. Ndanga ndichitsvaga izvozvo.
Ini ndinofungidzira kuti ndakanga ndakanganisa nezvekufungira kwangu kuti iyo GB yakanga yaita kuti isawanikwe painternet.
Unogamuchirwa. Ini ndakanakidzwa nechinhu ichi, zvakare, uye ndingadai ndisina kuziva nezvazvo dai usina kuunza. Paive neruzivo rwemakore mana pazasi peiyo YouTube, ichibvunza kuti iyo poster yakanga yawana kupi vhidhiyo, asi hapana mhinduro kumubvunzo wakapihwa. Ndakaona magwaro ekutarisisa aBarbara Anderson anonyora rekodhi panzvimbo yake. Nekudaro, piritsi rangu rakaderera pane data, uye handina kukwanisa kuita kuti kurekodha kwake kuvhure.
3 mavhidhiyo mukati zvishoma kupfuura mavhiki maviri? Handipembereri Kirisimasi, asi dai ndaita ichi chingava chipo cheKisimusi. 😀 Basa rakakura senguva dzose, mukoma Eric!
PS Kugerwa kunotapira. 😉
Kubva kuWikipedia:
“Muchero wemuti une chepfu dimikira repamutemo rinoshandiswa kutsanangura humbowo hunowanikwa zvisiri pamutemo.[1] Mufungo weshoko ndewekuti kana bviro ("muti") weumbowo kana humbowo pachawo hwakasvibiswa, ipapo chero chinhu chinowanwa ("chibereko") kubva mauri chakasvibiswa zvakare."
Mhoro Eric, ndinotenda kujekeswa kwako pachinyorwa chenhanho. Sangano mutsigiri wekururama, kutendeseka. Saka kuregererei kuita zvimwe chetezvo kwavari? Wakarurama kuita saizvozvo. Tinoda chokwadi nekuti “tinofanira kunamata mumweya nemuchokwadi”. Bheti Sarimu. Vashoma vanin'ina vanoziva nyaya iyi. Vanogona sei kana vakasatarisa. Asi ivo havagone nekuti vakapofumadzwa neGB. Ndakaonawo kuti zvinyorwa zvakawanda hazvichawanikwi, asiwo mareferensi asina kuratidzwa mumaindex. Semuyenzaniso, 1975. No references of the watchtowers 1967 1968, etc...suspicious... Read more  »