UEric: Molo, igama lam ndinguEric Wilson. Ividiyo osele uza kuyibona yarekhodwa kwiiveki ezidlulileyo, kodwa ngenxa yokugula, khange ndikwazi ukuyigqiba kude kube ngoku. Iya kuba yeyokuqala kwiividiyo ezininzi ezihlalutya imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye.

Ndenza ividiyo kunye noGqr.James Penton ongunjingalwazi wembali, umbhali owaziwayo wemizi eliqela yezifundo, isifundiswa seBhayibhile kunye nengcali kwizifundo zonqulo. Sivile ukuba lixesha lokuba sidibanise izixhobo zethu kwaye sivavanye imfundiso esona siphumo sobuKristu sisininzi. Ngaba nawe uvakalelwa ngaloo ndlela? Ngaba umntu kufuneka amkele uBathathu Emnye ukuze abalwe nguThixo njengomKristu? Lo mntu ngokuqinisekileyo unoluvo.

[Mbonise ividiyo]

Ukukholelwa kuBathathu Emnye kwaba lilitye lesiseko sobuKristu nini? UYesu wathi abantu bayakuqonda ubuKrestu bokwenyani ngothando oluza kuboniswa ngamaKristu. Ngaba abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye banembali ende yokubonisa uthando kwabo bangavumelaniyo nabo? Siza kuvumela imbali iphendule loo mbuzo.

Ngoku abanye baya kuthi ayinamsebenzi into esiyikholelwayo. Ungayikholelwa le nto ufuna ukuyikholelwa, kwaye nam ndiyakholelwa kwinto endifuna ukuyikholelwa. UYesu uyasithanda sonke okoko sithanda yena kunye nabanye.

Ukuba bekunjalo, kutheni le nto athi kumfazi equleni, "liyeza ilixa, nangoku selifikile, lokuba abanquli abayinyaniso baya kumnqula uBawo ngoMoya nangenyaniso. Ewe, uBawo ufuna aba bantu banqule yena. UThixo unguMoya; abo ke bamnqulayo kufuneka banqule ngoMoya nangenyaniso. (Yohane 4:23, 24, i-Christian Standard Bible)

UThixo ufuna abantu abamnqula ngoMoya nangenyaniso. Ke, inyaniso ibalulekile.

Kodwa akukho namnye unayo yonke inyaniso. Sonke siyazifumana gwenxa.

Kuyinyani, kodwa nguwuphi umoya osikhokelayo? Yintoni esishukumisela ukuba siqhubeke sifuna inyaniso kwaye singoneliseki yiyo nayiphi na into ebhaliweyo enomdla okwangoku?

UPawulos waxelela abaseTesalonika ngalabo baphulukana nosindiso: “Batshabalala ngenxa yokwala ukuthanda inyaniso, ukuze basindiswe.” (2 Tes. 2:10)

Uthando, ngakumbi uthando lwenene, kufuneka lusishukumisele ukuba sizabalwe nguThixo.

Ewe, xa ubuzwa, wonke umntu ubanga ukuba uyayithanda inyaniso. Kodwa masinyaniseke ngokumasikizi apha. Bangaphi abayithandayo ngokwenene? Ukuba ungumzali, ngaba uyabathanda abantwana bakho? Ndiqinisekile uyayenza. Ungafela abantwana bakho? Ndicinga ukuba uninzi lwabazali banokuncama obabo ubomi ukusindisa umntwana wabo.

Ngoku, makhe ndikubuze oku: Ngaba uyayithanda inyaniso? Ewe. Ngaba ubuya kuyifela? Ngaba ungavuma ukunikela ngobomi bakho kunokuncama inyaniso?

UYesu wenjenjalo. AmaKristu amaninzi enjenjalo. Nangona kunjalo, bangaphi kwabo bazibiza ngokuba bangamaKristu namhlanje abanokuyifela inyaniso?

Mna noJim sivela kwinkqubo yenkolelo echaza ukuba "yiNyaniso". INgqina likaYehova liza kubuza omnye u-JW abasandula ukudibana naye, "UneNyaniso ixesha elingakanani?", Okanye, "Uyifunde nini inyaniso?" Eyona nto bafuna ukuyibuza kukuba umntu lowo ebelilungu lombutho wamaNgqina kaYehova ixesha elingakanani.

Babhidanisa ukunyaniseka kwintlangano nothando lwenyaniso. Kodwa baluvale uthando lwabo ngenyaniso kwaye, kumava am ngokubanzi, inyani iyalahleka. Thetha inyani kubo kwaye uyahleba, ukuthukwa kunye nokuphepha ukubuyela. Ngamafutshane, intshutshiso.

Ukutshutshisa abo bathetha inyaniso kuqhelekile kumaNgqina kaYehova. Ngapha koko, ukutshutshisa nabani na kuba bengavumelani nenkolelo yakho yiflegi enkulu ebomvu, akunjalo? Ndiyathetha, ukuba unayo inyaniso, ukuba ulungile, ngaba oko akuthethi? Akukho sidingo sokuhlasela umntu ongavumelaniyo. Akukho sidingo sokubatshisa emthini.

Ngoku kukho iinguqulelo ezahlukeneyo zemfundiso yoThixo oneziqu ezithathu kwaye siya kubajonga bonke kolu luhlu lweevidiyo, kodwa siya kugxila kuninzi lwethu ingqalelo kweyona ndlela yamkelwe ngokubanzi kwiicawa zamaKristu ezisebenzayo namhlanje.

Ukubeka phambili, mna noJim asamkeli uBathathu Emnye, nangona samkela ukuba uYesu ungokobuthixo. Oko kuthetha, ngokuyinxenye, ukuba samkele uYesu njengoThixo esekwe kukuqonda kwethu iZibhalo ezahlukeneyo esiza kuhamba nazo endleleni. Abantu bazakuzama ukusinyanzela, besigxeka ngokusijongela phantsi njengama-Arians okanye i-Unitarians okanye bade bavale amaNgqina kaYehova-aphume, kodwa aqhubeke. Akukho nanye kwezi eya kuba ichanekile.

Ndifumanise kumava ukuba abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye banendlela encinci yokugxotha nakuphi na ukuhlaselwa kwenkolelo yabo. Luhlobo "lwesiphelo sokuphelisa ukucinga". Ihamba ngoluhlobo: “Owu, ucinga ukuba uYise noNyana bangooThixo abahlukeneyo, andibi kunjalo? Ayikuko oothixo abaninzi abo? ”

Kuba isithembu siluhlobo lonqulo olunxulunyaniswa nobuhedeni, bazama ukuphelisa yonke ingxoxo ngokubeka nabani na ongamamkeliyo kwiimfundiso zabo.

Kodwa ungabaphikisa ukuba abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye nabo banobuhlobo obuninzi ngeendlela zabo zantathu? Ngokwenyani, hayi. Babanga ukuba bangama-monotheist, njengamaYuda. Uyabona, bakholelwa kuThixo omnye kuphela. Abathathu abahlukileyo kwaye bahlukile, kodwa mnye kuphela uThixo.

Basebenzisa lo mzobo ukucacisa imfundiso: [Unxantathu ukusuka ku-https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity]

Oku kubanika isiqu esinye kuphela, kanti loo nto ayingomntu, kodwa abantu abathathu. Ingenza njani into yokuba umntu ongatshatanga abe ngabantu abathathu? Uyisongela njani ingqondo yakho kwindida enjalo. Bayiqonda le nto ngokungaphezulu njengengqondo yomntu, kodwa bayichaze njengemfihlakalo kaThixo.

Ngoku kuthi thina banokholo kuThixo, asinangxaki neemfihlakalo esingaziqondi logama zichaziwe ngokucacileyo ezibhalweni. Asinekratshi kangangokuba sicebisa ukuba xa singayiqondi into ethile ayinakuba yinyani. Ukuba uThixo usixelela into ukuba injalo, kunjalo.

Nangona kunjalo, ngaba imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye ichazwe ngokucacileyo eZibhalweni ngendlela yokuba, nangona ndingayiqondi, ndimele ndiyamkele njengeyinyaniso? Ndive abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye besitsho ngolu hlobo. Ngokumangalisayo kukuba, abayilandeli ngesalathiso esicacileyo sesibhengezo esinjalo. Endaweni yoko, oku kulandelayo ngumgca wesizathu sokuthatha umntu. Oko akuthethi ukuba baphosakele malunga nokuncitshiswa kwabo, kodwa ingxelo ecacileyo eBhayibhileni yenye into, ngelixa ukutolikwa komntu kuyinto eyahlukileyo.

Nangona kunjalo, kubakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye kukho izinto ezimbini ezinokubakho, ubuchule obuninzi kunye nokunxibelelana ngokobufanasini nokuba ngumntu wobuhedeni kunye nobuKristu bokuqala.

Nangona kunjalo, loo nto yenziwa ngokungxama. Uyabona, asizukubeka miqathango yonqulo lwethu. UThixo uyakwenza oko. UThixo usixelela ukuba simnqule njani, emva koko kufuneka sifumane amagama okuchaza oko akutshoyo. Njengoko kuvela, akukho "monotheism" okanye "polytheism" echaza ngokufanelekileyo unqulo lukaYehova okanye uYahweh njengoko lubhalwe kwiZibhalo. Ndizosika kwingxoxo ebendinayo noJim ngalo mbandela. Ndiza kukhokelela kuyo ngokubuza uJim lo mbuzo:

“Jim, ungasixelela ukuba kukho umntu oze nelizwi elichaza ngokuchanekileyo ngakumbi ubudlelwane phakathi kukaBawo noNyana kunye nokubanqula kwethu?

UJim: Ewe ndinga.

Kwakukho ikota entsha eyabhalwa ngo-1860, unyaka ngaphambi kweMfazwe yamakhaya yaseMelika kwaqalwa yindoda egama linguMax Muller. Ngoku le nto weza nayo ibinzana elithi "henotheistic". Ngoku kuthetha ntoni oku? Heno, ewe, nguThixo omnye, kodwa umbono ngokusisiseko yile: Kwakukho omnye kwaye oyintloko, uThixo ophakamileyo, uThixo ongaphezu kwabo bonke, kwanokuba uThixo udla ngokubizwa ngokuba nguYahweh okanye ukwimo endala, enguYehova. Ngaphandle koYehova okanye uYehova, zazikho nezinye izidalwa ezazisaziwa njengoothixo, elohim. Ngoku igama likaThixo ngesiHebhere ngu elohim, kodwa ngesiqhelo xa uqala ukuyijonga uthi hey, loo nto sisininzi sikaThixo. Ngamanye amagama, kuthetha ngaphezulu koThixo omnye. Kodwa xa kunikezelwa ngesenzi esisodwa, kuthetha ukuba nguThixo omnye, kwaye le yimeko yenkqubo ebizwa ngokuba sisininzi soBukhulu. Kunjengokuba uKumkanikazi uVictoria wayedla ngokuthi, "asihlekisi". Ewe, wayengomnye kodwa ngenxa yokuba wayengumlawuli ophetheyo, wasebenzisa isininzi kuye; naseZibhalweni, uYahweh okanye uYehova kudla ngokubhekiswa kuye Elohim, Thixo kwisininzi, kodwa ngezenzi ezikwesinye.

Ngoku, xa igama u-Elohim lisetyenziswa nezenzi zesininzi, oko kuthetha ukuthi ooThixo, kwaye, siyakujonga oku ukuba ikhona kwiTestamente Endala nakwiTestamente eNtsha.

UEric: Enkosi. Ke, ubuninzi abumiswanga ngesibizo, kodwa sisenzi sesenzi.

UJim: Ilungile lo nto.

UEric: Kulungile, ke ndiye ndawufumana umzekelo woko. Ukuqhubeka nokubonisa inqaku, ndiza kubonisa ngoku.

Kukho izinto ezimbini ekufuneka sizithathele ingqalelo malunga no-Elohim ngesiHebhere. Eyokuqala yeyokuba le nto ithethwa nguJim ichanekile-yeyokwakha ngokwegrama, engabonisi isininzi, kodwa kungumgangatho ofana nokugqwesa okanye isihandiba; kunye nokufumanisa ukuba kufuneka siye kwenye indawo apho sinokufumana khona ubungqina obungenakuphikiswa, kwaye ndicinga ukuba singabufumana oko kwi-1 Kumkani 11:33. Ukuba siya ku-1 Kumkani 11:33, siya kufumana apha kwi-BibleHub, esisibonelelo esilungileyo sokuphanda iBhayibhile kwiinguqulelo ezininzi. Ukujonga kweyoku-1 yooKumkani 11:33 kwibhayibhile ye-NIV sinayo: "Ndiza kuyenza le nto kuba bandishiyile, banqula uAshtoreti uthixokazi [isinye] samaSidoni, noKemoshe uthixo [oyedwa] wamaMowabhi, noMoleki uthixo [isinye] sama-Amon… ”

Kulungile, makhe sijonge ukuba ezo zibizo zesinye ziguqulelwe esiNgesini zabekwa njani kwezokuqala, kwaye kwi-interlinear sifumanisa ukuba ngalo lonke ixesha kuthethwa nguthixo okanye uthixokazi sinoElohim — 430 [e]. Kwakhona, “uthixokazi” 430, Elohim, nantsi "thixo", Elohim 430. Ukuqinisekisa nje — isalathi-magama sikaStrong — kwaye siyayifumana loo nto Elohim Nali igama elisetyenzisiweyo kwezi ndawo zintathu. Ke, kubonakala kuyacaca ukuba sijongana nokwakhiwa kwegrama. Nangona kunjalo, isigqebelo sayo yonke into kuxa umntu okholelwa kuBathathu Emnye ezama ukuxhasa uluvo lokuba ubuthixo okanye isininzi sikaYahweh — aba bantu bathathu emnye — babesaziwa, okanye baboniswe kwiZibhalo zesiHebhere ngokusebenzisa Elohim, eneneni banika iihenotheists, ezinjengoJim kunye nam, isiseko esihle sesikhundla sethu, kuba ubathathu Emnye usekwe kwingqikelelo yokuba kukho uThixo omnye. Yinto enye; uThixo omnye, abantu abathathu kuThixo omnye. Ke, ukuba u-Yahweh ubhekisele kuye njengo Elohim, Yehova Elohim, UYehova uThixo, okanye uYahweh uThixo uthetha ngoothixo abaninzi, kuyalandela ukuba kuthetha nge-henotheism, njengoko mna noJim samkela kwaye sibaninzi njengathi, ukuba uYahweh okanye uYHWH ngumenzi, onguThixo uSomandla kwaye ungaphantsi kwakhe yedwa Unyana ozelweyo ukwanguThixo. "Ilizwi nguThixo" kwaye njalo Elohim isebenza kakuhle kakhulu ukuxhasa ingcinga ye-henotheist, kwaye ke, kwixesha elizayo xa umntu eza kuqhubela phambili kum, ndicinga endaweni yokwenza impikiswano yegrama, ndiza kuthi, "Ewe, kulungile. Ndiyayamkela loo nto, kwaye loo nto iyangqina into esiyithethayo — henotheism. ” Ngapha koko, ukonwaba apho.

Ngaphambi kokuqhubeka, uphakamise into endicinga ukuba ababukeli bethu bazokuzibuza ngayo. Ukhankanye ukuba uYahweh yifom entsha kwaye uYehova ibiyindlela yakudala yenguqulelo yeYHWH. Ngaba kunjalo? Ngaba uYahweh yimo yakutshanje?

UJim: Ewe… kwaye yindlela ekuphikiswana ngayo, kodwa yamkelwe ngokubanzi luluntu ekufundeni njengokubonisa ukuba igama belikade linjani. Kodwa akukho mntu waziyo, ngokwenyani. Inye kuphela into elungileyo yokuqikelela.

UEric: Kunene. Ndiyazi ukuba kukho impikiswano eninzi ngoYehova. Baninzi abantu abacinga ukuba yayiligama elingelilo, kodwa eneneni isenokungasondeli kwindlela eyayibizwa ngayo ngoku njengokuba yayinjalo xa yayiqala ukubuyela kwinkulungwane ye-12. Okanye ngaba yayiyinkulungwane ye-13? 1260, ndiyacinga. Ndiya kwimemori. Uyazi ngcono kunam. Kodwa u "J" ngelo xesha wayene yah kuvakala njalo.

UJim: Ewe, njengoko isenza kwiilwimi zaseJamani naseScandinavia, kwaye mhlawumbi isiDatshi ukuza kuthi ga namhlanje. U “J” unesandi u “Y”. Kwaye oko kungena kwimbali yokusetyenziswa kwe- "J" esingazukuyenza apha.

UEric: Kunene. Kakuhle kakhulu. Enkosi. Ndifuna ukuyigubungela loo nto. Ndiyazi ukuba siza kufumana izimvo malunga naloo mgca, ukuba asiyilungisi ngoku.

Ke, ngaba ikhona enye into ofuna ukuyongeza malunga nayo, ndicinga ukuba ikhona into esuka kwiNdumiso 82 ukuba undichaze ngaphambili enxulumene noku.

UJim: Ewe ndonwabile ukuba uyiphakamisile loo nto kuba ngumzekelo ogqibeleleyo we-henotheism njengoko uMax Muller ebezakuyicacisa. Ngu, "Ndithe ningoothixo, kwaye nonke ningoonyana bOsenyangweni." Yiyo ayisiyiyo iNdumiso 82 iivesi 1 kodwa iya kwi-6 neye-7. Isixelela ngoThixo ehleli ebandleni likaThixo. Uzahlulele phakathi koothixo— “Ndithe ningoothixo kanti nonke ningoonyana bOsenyangweni.”

Nanko ke uThixo ehleli ebandleni loothixo; kwaye aliqela amatyala oku kwiiNdumiso. Andizukukhathazeka ngokuchaza apha, kodwa oku kunika umfanekiso kwaye ngamanye amaxesha, ewe, oothixo banokuba ngoothixo bobuxoki okanye iingelosi ezilungileyo. Kuyabonakala ukuba eli gama lisetyenziswa kwiingelosi, kwaye kwezinye iimeko lisetyenziswa kwizithixo zobuhedeni okanye isithixokazi sabahedeni — kukho ityala elinye kwiTestamente eNdala -kwaye lisetyenziswe nakwiingelosi, nakubantu abaphantsi kweemeko ezithile.

UEric: Egqwesileyo. Enkosi. Ngokwenyani, luluhlu lweZibhalo ozihlanganisileyo. Ngaphezulu kunokuba sinokugubungela apha. Ke, ndibabeke kuxwebhu kwaye nabani na onomdla wokubona lonke uluhlu ... ndiza kubeka ikhonkco kwinkcazo yale vidiyo ukuze bakwazi ukukhuphela uxwebhu kwaye bayihlole kwakhona ngexesha labo.

UJim: Oko kuya kulunga.

UEric: Enkosi. Ngenxa yokuba konke nje okuthethileyo, ngaba ikhona into ebonakalayo kwiZibhalo zangaphambi kobuKristu, okanye into abantu abaninzi abayibiza ngokuba yiTestamente Endala, zokuba uYesu unguThixo kwilungiselelo le-henotheistic?

UJim: Ewe, mandiqale nditsho ukuba ukubuyela umva njengakwiGenesis, kukho amaxesha amabini apho lo mgaqo we-henotheism ucace gca. Inye ikwi-akhawunti yangaphambi kukaNowa apho iSibhalo sithetha ngoonyana bakaThixo abaza ezantsi kwaye batshata iintombi zabantu. Lelinye lala matyala, oonyana bakaThixo. Yiyo loo nto baba zizithixo kubo okanye babonwa njengoothixo. Ezi zimele ukuba ziingelosi eziwileyo ngokwenkcazo kwincwadi engaphefumlelwanga kaEnoki, nakwi-2 Petros Ke unayo, kodwa enye ebaluleke kakhulu ikwincwadi yeMizekeliso apho ijongene nomxholo wobulumko. Ngoku uninzi lwabaphengululi luza kuthi, 'Ewe, oku… ezi ziimpawu zikaYahweh kwaye akufuneki zibonise umntu okanye hypostasis ". Kodwa enyanisweni njengokuba ixesha lihamba, ngakumbi kwindawo yeTestamente eNtsha, ekuqaleni, kwaye mhlawumbi ndingatsho kwaphambilana, ufumana uphononongo lomcimbi wonke wobulumko owenziwe umntu, kwaye oku encwadini yobulumko, nakwimisebenzi yomYuda wase-Aleksandriya, uPhilo, owayephila ngexesha likaYesu Krestu kwaye waliphatha ngeli gama uphawu, eya kubonisa into efana nobulumko kwincwadi yeMizekeliso nakwincwadi yobulumko. Ngoku kutheni malunga noku, okanye uthini malunga noku, ndimelwe kukuthini? Ewe, inyani yento kukuba igama elithi logos okanye iilogo, ngokuxhomekeke ekubeni uyafuna ukulibiza lifutshane okanye lide O-amaYuda okanye amaGrike ngomhla kaKristu bawaxuba bobabini ngalo lonke ixesha, ke ndiyaqikelela Ndikhululekile ku… kwinkululeko yokwenza… ukwenza into enye — kwaye nakweyiphi na imeko, eli gama likwigama lethu lesiNgesi elithi "logic", "logical" ukusuka kwilogos okanye iilogo, kwaye ibinomxholo wokuqiqa ngokunjalo kwaye yayifana kakhulu nobulumko, kwaye uPhilo ezantsi eAlexandria yase-Egypt wabona ubulumko kunye neelogo njengezinto ezifanayo, nanjengobuntu.

Uninzi lwabantu lukhombisile kwinto yokuba ubulumko kwiMizekeliso yibufazi, kodwa loo nto ayikhange imkhathaze uPhilo kwaphela. Uye wathi, “Ewe kunjalo, kodwa inokuqondwa njengendoda ngokunjalo. Okanye ubuncinci njengeelogo ziyindoda; ke ubulumko bunokubonisa umntu oyindoda okanye i-hypostasis.

UEric: Kunene.

UJim: Ngoku, okuninzi oku kujongwana nako ngokucacileyo kwimibhalo yomfundi wokuqala ongumKristu odumileyo, kwaye ujongana noku ngobude. Ke, into onayo apha yinto ebikhona ngokukodwa ngaphakathi nakwixesha likaYesu, kwaye nangona abaFarisi betyhola uYesu ngokwenza ukunyelisa esithi ungunyana kaThixo, wacaphula ngokuthe ngqo kwiiNdumiso kwaye wabonisa ukuba kuthethwa ngoothixo , Oothixo abaninzi, kwaye ngenxa yoko wathi, 'Ikhona. Kubhaliwe kwathiwa. Awunakukuthandabuza. Andinyelisi tu. Ke, umbono wawukho kakhulu ngexesha likaKristu.

UEric: Kunene. Enkosi. Ngokwenyani, bendisoloko ndicinga ukuba kufanelekile ukumntwiswa kukaKristu kunye no-pre-Christian okanye uYesu owayesele ekhona njenge logo kuba, njengobulumko, ndiyathetha, kuba njengoko ndiyiqonda, ubulumko bunokuchazwa njengokusetyenziswa kolwazi . Uyazi, ndingazi into kodwa ukuba andenzi nto ngolwazi, andibobulumko; ukuba ndisebenzisa ulwazi lwam, ke ndinobulumko. Kwaye ukudalwa kwendalo iphela ngoYesu, ngoYesu, noYesu, yayiyeyona mbonakaliso inkulu yokusetyenziswa kolwazi olusebenzayo. Ke, ubulumko obumntwisiweyo buhambelana ngokugqibeleleyo nendima yakhe njengomsebenzi ophambili kaThixo, ukuba uyafuna, ukusebenzisa igama elivela kwinkolo yethu yakudala.

Kodwa ngaba ikhona enye into oyifunayo ongeze kuyo malunga… oyithathileyo yabaseFilipi 2: 5-8? Ukheandixela oku kwangoko ngokubhekisele kubukho bukaKristu; kuba kukho abo bathandabuzayo ubunyani bayo, ocinga ukuba wabakho njengendoda, nangaphambi koko wabakhona.

UJim: Ewe. Esi sikhundla sithathwa ngamaqela awahlukeneyo, amaqela angengobathathu Emnye, kwaye kukho imbinana yawo, kwaye ingxoxo yawo yeyokuba uKristu wayengekho ngaphambi kobukho bakhe njengomntu. Wayengekho ezulwini, kodwa isicatshulwa esikweyabaseFilipi isahluko sesibini sichaza ngokuthe ngqo-kwaye uPawulos ukukunika umzekelo wokuthobeka apho abhala khona malunga noku- kwaye uthi akazange azame- ecacisa apha kunokuba acaphule — akazange azame ukuthatha isikhundla sikaYise kodwa wazithoba wathabatha ubume bomntu, nangona wayekuThixo; Imeko kaThixo, ekwimo katata. Akazange azame ukuthatha isikhundla sikaThixo njengoko uSathana abanjwe ukuba azame, kodwa wamkela icebo likaThixo waza wancama imeko yakhe yokomoya waza weza emhlabeni ngomntu. Oku kucace gca. Ukuba kukho umntu ofuna ukufunda isahluko sesibini sabaseFilipi. Ke, oku kubonisa ngokucacileyo ukubakho phambi kwam, kwaye andikufumani kunzima kakhulu ukukujikeleza oko.

Ewe kunjalo, kukho nezinye, ezinye izibhalo ezininzi ezinokuziswa. Ndinencwadi epapashwe ngamadoda ambalwa angamaCawa kaThixo, Ukholo luka-Abraham, kwaye ngamnye kubo uzama ukuphelisa umbono wobukho, besithi, 'Kulungile oku ... oku akuhambelani neengcinga zamaJuda , kwaye ndicinga ukuba bubuxoki oboyikekayo xa uthetha ngengcinga yamaJuda okanye ingcinga yamaGrike okanye eyomnye umntu, kuba kukho izimvo ezahlukeneyo kulo naluphi na uluntu kwaye ucebise ukuba akukho mHebhere owakha wacinga ukuba kukho into engekhoyo yinto engekhoyo. Ngokuqinisekileyo, uPhilo ezantsi eYiputa wayenjalo, kwaye wayephila ngexesha likaYesu Kristu.

UEric: Kunene.

UJim: Kwaye bathanda ukuthi, 'Ewe, oku kukuxelwa kwangaphambili nguThixo okuza kwenzeka kwikamva'. Kwaye abalwi nala manqaku abonisa ukuba babekho.

UEric: Ewe. Kunzima kakhulu ukujongana nabo ngoko ke ababahoyi. Ndiyazibuza ukuba ingaba le nto siyibonayo eluntwini exhasa ukubakho kwasekuqaleni iyafana na naleyo siyibonayo kumaNgqina kaYehova azama nzima ukushiya uBathathu Emnye ade aye kwelinye icala. AmaNgqina enza uYesu abe yingelosi nje, nangona eyingelosi enkulu, kwaye amanye amaqela amenza umntu, engazange abekho ngaphambili. Zombini ziyimfuneko… kulungile, akuyomfuneko… kodwa zombini ziyindlela yokusabela, ndicinga ukuba, imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye, kodwa iyasabela; Ukuya kude kakhulu ngenye indlela.

UJim: Injalo loo nto, kwaye namaNgqina ayenze into ethubeni. Ngoku, xa ndandisemtsha kumaNgqina kaYehova. Kwakungathandabuzeki ukuba kukho intlonipho enkulu ngoKristu kwaye ixesha elide, amangqina aya kuthandaza kuKristu kwaye abulele kuKristu; kwaye kwiminyaka edlulileyo, ewe, bayisusile loo nto, kwaye bathi awufanelanga uthandaze kuKristu, awufanelanga unqule uKrestu. Ufanele unqule uBawo kuphela; Kwaye bathathe isikhundla esibi kakhulu samaJuda. Ngoku ndibhekisa kubaFarisi kunye namaJuda aphikisana noKrestu ekuthatheni isikhundla, kuba zininzi iindawo kwiTestamente eNtsha apho ibonisa, ngakumbi kumaHebhere, ukuba amaKristu okuqala ayemnqula uKristu njengonyana kaYise. Ke, baye bafudukela kude kwelinye icala, kwaye kum kubonakala ngathi bebe… ukuba kakhulu abahambelani neTestamente eNtsha.

UEric: Bahambile ukuza kuthi ga kwiveki ephelileyo IMboniselo Ukufunda, bekukho ingxelo yokuba akufuneki simthande uKristu encinci kwaye akufuneki simthande kakhulu. Enjani yona into ukububudenge ukuyenza; kodwa ibonisa indlela abamhlise ngayo uKrestu kuhlobo lomzekelo kunokuba beyinyani. Kwaye mna nawe siye saqonda ukuba ungokobuthixo. Ke, uluvo lokuba akangobuthixo okanye akanguye uhlobo lukaThixo asiyonto siyala ngayo nangayiphi na indlela, kodwa kukho umahluko phakathi kokuba nguthixo nokuba nguThixo ngokwakhe, kwaye ndicinga ukuba sifikelela kweso Sibhalo sinamathele ngoku kuYohane 1: 1. Ngaba ungathanda ukujongana nayo nathi?

UJim: Ewe ndingathanda. Esi sisibhalo esiphambili kuTrinitari kwaye sisibhalo esingesiso sobuTriniti. Kwaye ukuba ujonga kwiinguqulelo zebhayibhile, zininzi ezazibhekisa kuYesu njengoThixo nabanye abathi… ezazibhekisa kuye njengoThixo, kwaye iSibhalo esithile, ngesiGrike sithi: En archē ēn ho Logos kai ho Logos kwi pros ton Theon kai Theos kwi Logos.  Kwaye ndingakunika eyam inguqulelo, kwaye ndicinga ukuba ifundeka ngolu hlobo: "Ekuqaleni yayingu-Logos-igama, Oko kukuthi, ngenxa yokuba uLogos uthetha ukuba phakathi kwezinto ezahlukeneyo-kwaye uLogos wayejamelene noThixo noThixo okanye uthixo igama ".

Kutheni ndiguqulela kule nto njengokuba iilogo zazijonge kuThixo? Ewe, kunokuba uLogos wayekunye noThixo? Ewe, kuba ukwenzeka kweli meko, ngempumelelo, ngesiKoine Greek ayifuni ngqo into eyenziwa ngo “with” ngesiNgesi, apho ufumana khona uluvo “kunye” okanye “ngokudibene no”. Kodwa eli gama lithetha into engaphantsi kwelo, okanye mhlawumbi ngaphezulu koko.

Kwaye uHelen Barrett Montgomery kwinguqulelo yakhe kaJohn 1 ukuya ku-3, kwaye ndifunda enye yale nto, kukuba ubhala athi: "Ekuqalekeni yayililizwi kwaye ilizwi lalibhekane ubuso ngobuso noThixo kwaye uLizwi wayenguThixo."

Ngoku leyo inomdla wokufuna ukwazi.  eziluncedo kuthetha ukuba ubuso ngobuso okanye ngaphandle kukaThixo kwaye kubonisa ukuba bekukho abantu aba-2 apho kwaye bengekho kwinto enye kwaye ndiza kungena koko kamva.

Into ebangela umdla kukuba le yayiyimpapasho, okanye yaba lupapasho lweAmerican Baptist Society, ke wayekhwele njengoThixo oneziqu ezithathu. Kwakunjalo ke noCharles B. Williams, kwaye unegama okanye uLogos esithi ubuso ngobuso noThixo kwaye ufana naye, yena, kuyacaca, kucacile ukuba ungumTriniti. Ukuguqulelwa kwangasese kulwimi lwabantu ngo-1949 kwanikezelwa kwi-Moody Bible Institute ukuba ipapashwe, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo abo bantu babengabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye. Kungoko ke sineendidi ngeenguqulelo zesiNgesi nakwezinye iilwimi, ngakumbi isiJamani, ezi… zithi, “uLizwi wayenguThixo”, kwaye ke abaninzi bathi, “kwaye uLizwi wayenguThixo”, okanye "igama lalingcwele".

Uninzi lwabaphengululi bebenovalo kwaye isizathu soku kukuba kwisiGrike xa igama lithatha isichazi, kwaye isichazi kwisiNgesi ngu "the", kwaye ke sithi "uthixo", kodwa ngesiGrike, bekukho akukho "thixo" ngengqiqo yokoqobo. Kwaye indlela abayiphathe ngayo le nto…

EsisityebiAkukho nqaku lingenasiphelo.

UJim: Injalo loo nto, kwaye indlela abayiphathe ngayo le nto kukuba bekungekho gama inqaku elingenammiselo njenge "a" okanye "an" ngesiNgesi kwaye amaxesha amaninzi, xa ubona isibizo ngaphandle kwenqaku, ngaphandle kwenqaku elichazayo, ucinga ukuba kwinguqulelo yesiNgesi, kufanele ukuba ibekho ngokungenammiselo kunokuba ichaze. Ke xa isithi "uLogos" ngaphambili esiBhalweni ngenqaku elichazayo kodwa kodwa iqhubeke ithi uLogos yayinguThixo, ke akukho nqaku liphambi kwelo gama, "uthixo", ke unokucinga ukuba ngokwenyani yenyani, kuya kufuneka uguqulele esi siqendu ngokuthi “nguThixo” kunokuba sithi “nguThixo”. Kwaye kukho iinguqulelo ezininzi ezenza loo nto, kodwa enye kufuneka ilumke. Umntu kufuneka alumke. Awunakuthetha ngolu hlobo kuba iigrama zibonise ukuba zininzi iimeko apho izibizo ngaphandle kwenqaku elichazayo zisasebenza. Kwaye le mpikiswano iyaqhubeka intengiso. Kwaye ukuba uthe wakholelwa kuZiqu-zintathu, uyopla idesika kwaye uthi, "Ewe, kuyinyani eqinisekileyo ukuba xa uLogos kusithiwa unguThixo, oko kuthetha ukuba ungomnye wabantu abathathu kuBathathu Emnye, kwaye unguThixo. ” Kukho abanye abathi, "Hayi nakanye".

Ewe, ukuba ujonge kwimibhalo yesiQalo, ngubani ongoyena uphambili kubaphengululi abangamaKrestu, ngewayedibene nabantu abathi, “uthixo” uchanekile, kwaye uyakuba ngumxhasi Inguqulelo yamaNgqina kaYehova apho banalo ukuba "uLizwi wayenguThixo".

UEric: Kunene.

UJim: kwaye… kodwa asinakho ukuqiniseka ngenkani malunga noko. Akunakwenzeka ukuba uqiniseke ngayo, kwaye ukuba ujonga i-Unitarians kwelinye icala kunye nabathathu Emnye kwelinye, baya kulwa malunga noku kwaye baveze zonke iintlobo zeengxabano, kwaye iingxabano ziyaqhubeka intengiso.  Kwaye uyazibuza ngamacala ahlukeneyo: Ukuba ngaba abo basebenza emva kwexesha bayachaneka xa besithi, "Kulungile, yile nto umfundi ayikhuphileyo kuxwebhu olubhaliweyo endaweni yomntu obhale olu xwebhu". Ewe, asikwazi ukuya kude.

Kodwa ndingathanda, ndingacebisa ke ukuba ukuphikisana ngobume begrama yesi sicatshulwa kuYohane 1: 1-3, kungcono ukusebenzisa enye indlela yokufunda lo mbandela uphela, kwaye ndicinga ukuba kungenxa yokuba ndiza kwezi zinto isiseko soqeqesho lwam. Ndingumbhali-mbali ngokusisiseko; I-PhD yam yayikwimbali. Nangona ndandinomntwana omncinci kwizifundo zonqulo ngelo xesha kwaye ndichithe ixesha elininzi ndifunda inye inkolo, kodwa inkolo ezininzi, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo iZibhalo; kodwa ndingatsho ukuba indlela yokusondela koku yimbali.

UEric: Kunene.

UJim: Oko kubeka ezi Zibhalo, ezi ndinyana zingumxholo wento eyenzeka kwinkulungwane yokuqala, xa uYesu Kristu wayesaphila kwaye emva nje kokuba efile; Kwaye inyani yoku kukuba imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye ayizange ibekho, nokuba ibetha ngokupheleleyo okanye ayizange ibethwa ngokupheleleyo, kwiinkulungwane emva kokuba uKrestu eswelekile, kwaye uninzi lwabaphengululi bayayazi le nto namhlanje. Kwaye inani elingahleliwe kwinani lama-Katolika alungileyo, abafundi abafundileyo abangamaKatolika bayakuqonda oku.

UEric: Ngoko ...

UJim:  Ndicinga ukuba ibalasele.

UEric: Ke, ngaphambi kokuba ungene kuloo nto-ebangela eyona nto kugxilwe kuyo kule vidiyo, imbali-ukucacisa wonke umntu ofumana udidekile kwingxoxo kaJohn 1: 1, ndicinga ukuba ngumgaqo owamkelweyo ngokubanzi phakathi kwabo bafundayo Ngokucacileyo ibhayibhile ithi ukuba kukho isicatshulwa esingaqondakaliyo, nesinokuthathwa ngendlela eyahlukileyo, ke eso sicatshulwa asinakuba bubungqina kodwa kunokuba sisebenze njengenkxaso, nje ukuba usete ubungqina obomeleleyo kwenye indawo.

Ke, u-John 1: 1 angayixhasa imfundiso yoThixo oneziqu ezithathu, ukuba ungangqina uBathathu Emnye kwenye indawo. Iya kuxhasa ukuqonda kwe-henotheistic, ukuba singangqina kwenye indawo. Yiloo nto esiza kuyenza… kulungile, siza kuthatha iindlela ezintathu. Le yinxalenye 1. Siya kuba neevidiyo ezimbini ubuncinci. Umntu uya kuvavanya ubungqina bokusetyenziswa kukaBathathu Emnye; Omnye uya kuvavanya ubungqina obusetyenzisiweyo bama-Aryan, kodwa okwangoku ndicinga ukuba imbali yeyona ndlela ibaluleke kakhulu yokuseka isiseko okanye ukungabikho kwemfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Ke, ndiza kuwushiya umhlaba uvulekile kuwe.

UJim: Masibe sihle kakhulu. Ndicinga ukuba kucacile ukuba kwakungekho mfundiso kaBathathu Emnye kwisibini sokuqala senkulungwane, hayi ngohlobo lokuba ikho namhlanje. Ubathathu Emnye akazange eze nakwiBhunga laseNicaea ngowama-325 AD njengoko uninzi lwabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye babenalo. Ngokwenyani, into esinayo eNicaea kukwamkelwa kwemfundiso ye…

UEric: Ubuntu.

UJim: Ewe, ngabantu aba-2 endaweni yesi-3. Kwaye isizathu soku yayikukuba babekhathazekile ikakhulu kulwalamano lukayise nonyana. UMoya oyiNgcwele khange ukhankanywe ngeli xesha konke konke, ke ngoko waba nemfundiso yobuBinatarian eyaphuhliswayo apho, hayi iTriniti, nokuba bafike kule nto besebenzisa igama elithile, "hamaucious", elithetha into enye isiyobisi, kwaye baphikisana ukuba utata kunye nonyana yinto enye.

Ngoku le yaziswa nguMlawuli uConstantine, kwaye wayengumKristu okhethekileyo, ukuba ungathi. Wayengabhaptizwanga de wayekulungele ukufa. Kwaye wenza ubugebenga obunzulu obuninzi, kodwa waba ngumntu oqinisekileyo ngobuKrestu, kodwa wayefuna ukuba kube ngolungeleleneyo, ke ngoko wagqiba kwelokuba kuphele iingxoxo ezaziqhubeka. Kwaye wazisa eli lizwi kwaye oku kwanelisa iqela le-Trinitarian okanye iqela le-binatarian njengoko babenjalo ngelo xesha, kuba bafuna ukubhengeza uArius, owayengumntu ongafuniyo ukwamkela lo mbono, njengomqhekeki. Kwaye yayikukuphela kwendlela ababenokumchaza ngayo njengomqhekeki. Kwaye ke bazise eli gama eliye laba yinxalenye yenkolo yamaKatolika ukusukela ubuncinci ngokwembono yeqela elinye.

Ke, uBathathu Emnye ulibele kakhulu. Kuza kamva kakhulu xa babhengeza uMoya oyiNgcwele ukuba ngumntu wesi-3 kaBathathu Emnye. Kwaye ngama-381.

UEric:  Kwaye omnye uMlawuli wabandakanyeka kwaye yayingenguye?

UJim: Kuko oko. UTheodosius Omkhulu.

UEric: Ke, akaphelelanga ekunqandeni ubuhedeni kuphela kodwa iArianism yakho evaliweyo okanye nayiphi na into engeyiyo kaBathathu Emnye… ke, kwakukuchasene nomthetho ukukholelwa ukuba uThixo wayengenguye uBathathu Emnye.

UJim: Injalo loo nto, injalo loo nto. Kwaba yinto engekho mthethweni ukuba ngumhedeni okanye umKristu waseArian kwaye zonke ezi zikhundla zavalwa kwaye zatshutshiswa, nangona iArianism yahlala ngaphandle kwintlango yezizwe zaseJamani ngenxa yokuba ama-Arians athumela abavangeli ngaphandle kwaye aguqula uninzi lwezizwe zaseJamani Ukoyisa iNtshona Yurophu kunye nenxalenye eseNtshona yoBukhosi baseRoma.

UEric: Kulungile, mandiqonde oku, unoluvo olungachazwanga ngokucacileyo kwiZibhalo nakwimibhalo yezembali eyayingaziwa kubuKrestu benkulungwane yokuqala neyesibini; iba nempikiswano ebandleni; kwakulawulwa ngumlawuli ongumhedeni owayengabhaptizwanga ngelo xesha; kwaye ke unamaKristu angakholwanga, wawatshutshisa; Kwaye sikholelwa ukuba uThixo akamsebenzisanga uYesu Krestu nabapostile ukutyhila oku kodwa wasebenzisa umlawuli ongumhedeni oya kuthi emva koko atshutshise abo bangavumelaniyo.

UJim: Injalo loo nto, nangona kamva wabuyayo, wajika wawela phantsi kwempembelelo ka-Arian Bishop kwaye wabhaptizwa ekugqibeleni ngama-Arians endaweni yabaTriniti.

UEric: Kulungile. Isisithukuthezi kukuhla oku.

UJim: Ewe, xa singena koku ngaphambili, uyakufumanisa ukuba phantse zonke izigqibo ezazenziwe kumabhunga ezakwalizwi zenziwa ngenkxaso yabasemagunyeni, abalawuli baseRoma, kwaye ekugqibeleni omnye wabo wayezimisele ngomnye wabo. oopopu, kwaye loo nto yayijongana nombuzo kaKristu osenyameni, owayefanele ukubonwa kwaye anqulwe njengoThixo ngokupheleleyo nomntu ngokupheleleyo.

Ke, ukuzimisela kwemfundiso akunakwenziwa ngecawe emanyeneyo konke konke. Yenziwa koko kuye kwayicawe emanyeneyo okanye icawe emanyeneyo phantse phantsi koncedo lwabasemagunyeni.

UEric: Kulungile, enkosi. Ke, ukwenza nje into yokushwankathela ingxoxo yethu namhlanje, bendibukele ividiyo kaTriniti echaza imfundiso, kwaye wavuma ukuba kunzima kakhulu ukuyiqonda, kodwa wathi “ayikhathali into yokuba andiqondi yiyo. Ichazwe ngokucacileyo eBhayibhileni, ngoko ke kufuneka ndamkele ngokholo oko kuchazwe ngokupheleleyo. ”

Kodwa kule nto undixelela yona, akukho bungqina eBhayibhileni, okanye kwimbali yohlanga lwakwaSirayeli ngaphambi kukaKristu, nakweyiphi na indawo yobuKristu ukuya kuthi ga kwinkulungwane yesi-3 yayo nayiphi na imbonakaliso ecacileyo kaBathathu Emnye.

UJim: Injalo loo nto, injalo loo nto; kwaye akukho nkxaso icacileyo kuyo ngamabhunga ecawa kude kube ngama-381. Mhle emva kwexesha. Kwaye kumaXesha Aphakathi, ewe, iicawa zaseMpuma kunye necawa yaseNtshona yeRoma zahlukana, ngokuyinxenye, kwimicimbi ebandakanya uBathathu Emnye. Ke, akuzange kubekho ndawo imanyeneyo kwizinto ezininzi. Sinamaqela anje ngamaKristu angamaCoptic ase-Egypt kunye namaNestori kunye nabanye ababephakathi kumaXesha Aphakathi abangazange bazamkele ezinye zeembono zebhunga lokugqibela elalijongene nobume bukaKrestu.

UEric: Kunene. Kukho abathile abaya kuthi, “Ewe, akunamsebenzi nokuba uyakholelwa ukuba uBathathu Emnye akakho. Sonke singamakholwa kuKristu. Konke kulungile. ”

Ndiyayibona imbono, kodwa kwelinye icala, ndicinga ngoYohane 17: 3 othi eyona njongo yobomi, ubomi obungunaphakade, kukwazi uThixo nokwazi unyana kaThixo, uYesu Krestu, kwaye ukuba siqala uhambo lwethu lolwazi kwisiseko esingeyonyani, kwisiseko sobugcisa esibuthathaka nesiphene, asizukufumana le nto sifuna ukuyifumana. Kungcono ukuqala kwinyani kwaye uyongeze.

Ke, le ngxoxo, ndicinga ukuba, ibalulekile kuba ukwazi uYehova uThixo okanye uYahW okanye uYHWH, njengoko unqwenela ukumbiza, kwaye ukwazi unyana wakhe, u-Yeshua okanye uYesu, kubalulekile ngokwenene kwinjongo yethu yokugqibela yokuba simnye noThixo ngenjongo kunye ezingqondweni nasentliziyweni nokuba singabantwana bakaThixo.

UJim: Makhe ndikuthethe oku xa ndivala, Eric: Xa uyema ucinge ngenani labantu kwiinkulungwane ezidlulileyo ababuleweyo ngamaKatolika, amaRoma Katolika, amaOrthodox aseGrisi, amaKristu angamaCalvin, abalandeli bakaJohn Calvin umbutho ohlaziyiweyo, amaLuthere kunye namaTshetshi, ekuhambeni kweminyaka abantu abaninzi baye babulawa ngenxa yokwala ukwamkela imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Iyothusa! Kakade ke, elona tyala laziwa kakhulu lelokutshiswa kwesibonda sikaServetus ngenkulungwane ye-16, ngenxa yokwala kwakhe uBathathu Emnye; kwaye nangona uJohn Calvin wayengafuni ukuba atshiswe esibondeni, wayefuna ukukhokelwa, kwaye yayiliBhunga okanye iqela elilawulayo eGeneva elathi lagqiba ekubeni atshiselwe esibondeni. Kwaye babebaninzi abanye abathi… amaJuda anyanzelwa ukuba aguqukele kubuKatolika eSpain emva koko abuyela umva kubuYuda — abanye babo babengamaYuda noorabhi bamaJuda — kodwa ukuze bazikhusele ngaphandle, baba ngabefundisi bamaKatolika, eyayiyinto engaqhelekanga ngokwenene, kwaye uninzi lwaba bantu, ukuba babanjwa, babulawa. Yayiyinto embi leyo. I-Unitarians nokuba ngaba-zazikhona iintlobo ezohlukeneyo-kodwa bephika uBathathu Emnye, batshutshiswa eNgilani kwaye bagwetywa kude kube ngekhulu le-19; kwaye uninzi lwabaphengululi ababalaseleyo babengabachasi uBathathu Emnye: UJohn Milton, uSir Isaac Newton, uJohn Locke, kwaye kamva kwinkulungwane ye-19, indoda eyafumanisa ioksijini-ikhaya layo kunye nethala leencwadi zatshatyalaliswa lihlokondiba kwaye kwafuneka abaleke E-United States apho wathathwa khona nguThomas Jefferson.

Ke, into onayo yimfundiso apho zonke iintlobo zabantu zithandabuzayo kunye nezenzo ezingenaluthando zabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye zibe mbi. Ngoku, loo nto ayithethi kuthi abanye abantu be-Unitarian bebengaphantsi kobuKristu ngokuziphatha kwabo, njengoko sisazi kakuhle. Kodwa inyani kukuba, ibiyimfundiso ekhuselweyo rhoqo sisibonda, itshisa esibondeni. Kwaye le yinto eyoyikekayo kuba inyani kukuba xa ujonga abahamba icawa banamhlanje. Umntu oqhelekileyo oya ecaweni, nokuba ingumKatolika, i-Anglican, umhambi oguqukayo… abaninzi, abanye abaninzi… abayiqondi, abantu abayazi imfundiso kwaye ndinabafundisi abaninzi ngeCawe yoBathathu Emnye, eyinxalenye yekhalenda yecawa, abazi ukuba mabenze ntoni ngayo kuba nabo abayiqondi.

Kunzima kakhulu, imfundiso enzima kakhulu yokwenza ukuba intloko yakho ijikeleze.

UEric: Ke, ndiza kuva inyani, akukho mfuneko yokuba sidlule kumazwi kaYesu akuMateyu 7 apho athi, "Niya kuyazi ngemisebenzi yabo aba bantu." Banokuthetha intetho elungileyo, kodwa imisebenzi yabo ityhila umoya wabo oyinyani. Ngaba ngumoya kaThixo obakhokelayo ukuba bathande okanye ngaba ngumoya kaSathana obakhokelela ekubeni bazonde? Isenokuba yeyona nto inomdla kuye nabani na ofuna ulwazi kunye nobulumko malunga noku.

UJim: Ewe, imbali yale mfundiso ithile yoyikekayo.

UEric: Ewe, kunjalo.

UJim: Ngaba kunjalo.

UEric: Ewe, enkosi kakhulu Jim ukuba ulixabise ixesha lakho kwaye ndiyabulela wonke umntu ngokubukela. Siza kubuyela kwakhona kwinxalenye 2 yolu ngcelele ngokukhawuleza nje ukuba sibeke lonke uphando lwethu kunye. Ke, ndiza kuthi ga ngoku.

UJim: Kwaye ngokuhlwa

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