UEric: Molo, igama lam ndinguEric Wilson. Ividiyo osele uza kuyibona yarekhodwa kwiiveki ezidlulileyo, kodwa ngenxa yokugula, khange ndikwazi ukuyigqiba kude kube ngoku. Iya kuba yeyokuqala kwiividiyo ezininzi ezihlalutya imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye.
Ndenza ividiyo kunye noGqr.James Penton ongunjingalwazi wembali, umbhali owaziwayo wemizi eliqela yezifundo, isifundiswa seBhayibhile kunye nengcali kwizifundo zonqulo. Sivile ukuba lixesha lokuba sidibanise izixhobo zethu kwaye sivavanye imfundiso esona siphumo sobuKristu sisininzi. Ngaba nawe uvakalelwa ngaloo ndlela? Ngaba umntu kufuneka amkele uBathathu Emnye ukuze abalwe nguThixo njengomKristu? Lo mntu ngokuqinisekileyo unoluvo.
[Mbonise ividiyo]
Ukukholelwa kuBathathu Emnye kwaba lilitye lesiseko sobuKristu nini? UYesu wathi abantu bayakuqonda ubuKrestu bokwenyani ngothando oluza kuboniswa ngamaKristu. Ngaba abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye banembali ende yokubonisa uthando kwabo bangavumelaniyo nabo? Siza kuvumela imbali iphendule loo mbuzo.
Ngoku abanye baya kuthi ayinamsebenzi into esiyikholelwayo. Ungayikholelwa le nto ufuna ukuyikholelwa, kwaye nam ndiyakholelwa kwinto endifuna ukuyikholelwa. UYesu uyasithanda sonke okoko sithanda yena kunye nabanye.
Ukuba bekunjalo, kutheni le nto athi kumfazi equleni, "liyeza ilixa, nangoku selifikile, lokuba abanquli abayinyaniso baya kumnqula uBawo ngoMoya nangenyaniso. Ewe, uBawo ufuna aba bantu banqule yena. UThixo unguMoya; abo ke bamnqulayo kufuneka banqule ngoMoya nangenyaniso. (Yohane 4:23, 24, i-Christian Standard Bible)
UThixo ufuna abantu abamnqula ngoMoya nangenyaniso. Ke, inyaniso ibalulekile.
Kodwa akukho namnye unayo yonke inyaniso. Sonke siyazifumana gwenxa.
Kuyinyani, kodwa nguwuphi umoya osikhokelayo? Yintoni esishukumisela ukuba siqhubeke sifuna inyaniso kwaye singoneliseki yiyo nayiphi na into ebhaliweyo enomdla okwangoku?
UPawulos waxelela abaseTesalonika ngalabo baphulukana nosindiso: “Batshabalala ngenxa yokwala ukuthanda inyaniso, ukuze basindiswe.” (2 Tes. 2:10)
Uthando, ngakumbi uthando lwenene, kufuneka lusishukumisele ukuba sizabalwe nguThixo.
Ewe, xa ubuzwa, wonke umntu ubanga ukuba uyayithanda inyaniso. Kodwa masinyaniseke ngokumasikizi apha. Bangaphi abayithandayo ngokwenene? Ukuba ungumzali, ngaba uyabathanda abantwana bakho? Ndiqinisekile uyayenza. Ungafela abantwana bakho? Ndicinga ukuba uninzi lwabazali banokuncama obabo ubomi ukusindisa umntwana wabo.
Ngoku, makhe ndikubuze oku: Ngaba uyayithanda inyaniso? Ewe. Ngaba ubuya kuyifela? Ngaba ungavuma ukunikela ngobomi bakho kunokuncama inyaniso?
UYesu wenjenjalo. AmaKristu amaninzi enjenjalo. Nangona kunjalo, bangaphi kwabo bazibiza ngokuba bangamaKristu namhlanje abanokuyifela inyaniso?
Mna noJim sivela kwinkqubo yenkolelo echaza ukuba "yiNyaniso". INgqina likaYehova liza kubuza omnye u-JW abasandula ukudibana naye, "UneNyaniso ixesha elingakanani?", Okanye, "Uyifunde nini inyaniso?" Eyona nto bafuna ukuyibuza kukuba umntu lowo ebelilungu lombutho wamaNgqina kaYehova ixesha elingakanani.
Babhidanisa ukunyaniseka kwintlangano nothando lwenyaniso. Kodwa baluvale uthando lwabo ngenyaniso kwaye, kumava am ngokubanzi, inyani iyalahleka. Thetha inyani kubo kwaye uyahleba, ukuthukwa kunye nokuphepha ukubuyela. Ngamafutshane, intshutshiso.
Ukutshutshisa abo bathetha inyaniso kuqhelekile kumaNgqina kaYehova. Ngapha koko, ukutshutshisa nabani na kuba bengavumelani nenkolelo yakho yiflegi enkulu ebomvu, akunjalo? Ndiyathetha, ukuba unayo inyaniso, ukuba ulungile, ngaba oko akuthethi? Akukho sidingo sokuhlasela umntu ongavumelaniyo. Akukho sidingo sokubatshisa emthini.
Ngoku kukho iinguqulelo ezahlukeneyo zemfundiso yoThixo oneziqu ezithathu kwaye siya kubajonga bonke kolu luhlu lweevidiyo, kodwa siya kugxila kuninzi lwethu ingqalelo kweyona ndlela yamkelwe ngokubanzi kwiicawa zamaKristu ezisebenzayo namhlanje.
Ukubeka phambili, mna noJim asamkeli uBathathu Emnye, nangona samkela ukuba uYesu ungokobuthixo. Oko kuthetha, ngokuyinxenye, ukuba samkele uYesu njengoThixo esekwe kukuqonda kwethu iZibhalo ezahlukeneyo esiza kuhamba nazo endleleni. Abantu bazakuzama ukusinyanzela, besigxeka ngokusijongela phantsi njengama-Arians okanye i-Unitarians okanye bade bavale amaNgqina kaYehova-aphume, kodwa aqhubeke. Akukho nanye kwezi eya kuba ichanekile.
Ndifumanise kumava ukuba abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye banendlela encinci yokugxotha nakuphi na ukuhlaselwa kwenkolelo yabo. Luhlobo "lwesiphelo sokuphelisa ukucinga". Ihamba ngoluhlobo: “Owu, ucinga ukuba uYise noNyana bangooThixo abahlukeneyo, andibi kunjalo? Ayikuko oothixo abaninzi abo? ”
Kuba isithembu siluhlobo lonqulo olunxulunyaniswa nobuhedeni, bazama ukuphelisa yonke ingxoxo ngokubeka nabani na ongamamkeliyo kwiimfundiso zabo.
Kodwa ungabaphikisa ukuba abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye nabo banobuhlobo obuninzi ngeendlela zabo zantathu? Ngokwenyani, hayi. Babanga ukuba bangama-monotheist, njengamaYuda. Uyabona, bakholelwa kuThixo omnye kuphela. Abathathu abahlukileyo kwaye bahlukile, kodwa mnye kuphela uThixo.
Basebenzisa lo mzobo ukucacisa imfundiso: [Unxantathu ukusuka ku-https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity]
Oku kubanika isiqu esinye kuphela, kanti loo nto ayingomntu, kodwa abantu abathathu. Ingenza njani into yokuba umntu ongatshatanga abe ngabantu abathathu? Uyisongela njani ingqondo yakho kwindida enjalo. Bayiqonda le nto ngokungaphezulu njengengqondo yomntu, kodwa bayichaze njengemfihlakalo kaThixo.
Ngoku kuthi thina banokholo kuThixo, asinangxaki neemfihlakalo esingaziqondi logama zichaziwe ngokucacileyo ezibhalweni. Asinekratshi kangangokuba sicebisa ukuba xa singayiqondi into ethile ayinakuba yinyani. Ukuba uThixo usixelela into ukuba injalo, kunjalo.
Nangona kunjalo, ngaba imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye ichazwe ngokucacileyo eZibhalweni ngendlela yokuba, nangona ndingayiqondi, ndimele ndiyamkele njengeyinyaniso? Ndive abantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye besitsho ngolu hlobo. Ngokumangalisayo kukuba, abayilandeli ngesalathiso esicacileyo sesibhengezo esinjalo. Endaweni yoko, oku kulandelayo ngumgca wesizathu sokuthatha umntu. Oko akuthethi ukuba baphosakele malunga nokuncitshiswa kwabo, kodwa ingxelo ecacileyo eBhayibhileni yenye into, ngelixa ukutolikwa komntu kuyinto eyahlukileyo.
Nangona kunjalo, kubakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye kukho izinto ezimbini ezinokubakho, ubuchule obuninzi kunye nokunxibelelana ngokobufanasini nokuba ngumntu wobuhedeni kunye nobuKristu bokuqala.
Nangona kunjalo, loo nto yenziwa ngokungxama. Uyabona, asizukubeka miqathango yonqulo lwethu. UThixo uyakwenza oko. UThixo usixelela ukuba simnqule njani, emva koko kufuneka sifumane amagama okuchaza oko akutshoyo. Njengoko kuvela, akukho "monotheism" okanye "polytheism" echaza ngokufanelekileyo unqulo lukaYehova okanye uYahweh njengoko lubhalwe kwiZibhalo. Ndizosika kwingxoxo ebendinayo noJim ngalo mbandela. Ndiza kukhokelela kuyo ngokubuza uJim lo mbuzo:
“Jim, ungasixelela ukuba kukho umntu oze nelizwi elichaza ngokuchanekileyo ngakumbi ubudlelwane phakathi kukaBawo noNyana kunye nokubanqula kwethu?
UJim: Ewe ndinga.
Kwakukho ikota entsha eyabhalwa ngo-1860, unyaka ngaphambi kweMfazwe yamakhaya yaseMelika kwaqalwa yindoda egama linguMax Muller. Ngoku le nto weza nayo ibinzana elithi "henotheistic". Ngoku kuthetha ntoni oku? Heno, ewe, nguThixo omnye, kodwa umbono ngokusisiseko yile: Kwakukho omnye kwaye oyintloko, uThixo ophakamileyo, uThixo ongaphezu kwabo bonke, kwanokuba uThixo udla ngokubizwa ngokuba nguYahweh okanye ukwimo endala, enguYehova. Ngaphandle koYehova okanye uYehova, zazikho nezinye izidalwa ezazisaziwa njengoothixo, elohim. Ngoku igama likaThixo ngesiHebhere ngu elohim, kodwa ngesiqhelo xa uqala ukuyijonga uthi hey, loo nto sisininzi sikaThixo. Ngamanye amagama, kuthetha ngaphezulu koThixo omnye. Kodwa xa kunikezelwa ngesenzi esisodwa, kuthetha ukuba nguThixo omnye, kwaye le yimeko yenkqubo ebizwa ngokuba sisininzi soBukhulu. Kunjengokuba uKumkanikazi uVictoria wayedla ngokuthi, "asihlekisi". Ewe, wayengomnye kodwa ngenxa yokuba wayengumlawuli ophetheyo, wasebenzisa isininzi kuye; naseZibhalweni, uYahweh okanye uYehova kudla ngokubhekiswa kuye Elohim, Thixo kwisininzi, kodwa ngezenzi ezikwesinye.
Ngoku, xa igama u-Elohim lisetyenziswa nezenzi zesininzi, oko kuthetha ukuthi ooThixo, kwaye, siyakujonga oku ukuba ikhona kwiTestamente Endala nakwiTestamente eNtsha.
UEric: Enkosi. Ke, ubuninzi abumiswanga ngesibizo, kodwa sisenzi sesenzi.
UJim: Ilungile lo nto.
UEric: Kulungile, ke ndiye ndawufumana umzekelo woko. Ukuqhubeka nokubonisa inqaku, ndiza kubonisa ngoku.
Kukho izinto ezimbini ekufuneka sizithathele ingqalelo malunga no-Elohim ngesiHebhere. Eyokuqala yeyokuba le nto ithethwa nguJim ichanekile-yeyokwakha ngokwegrama, engabonisi isininzi, kodwa kungumgangatho ofana nokugqwesa okanye isihandiba; kunye nokufumanisa ukuba kufuneka siye kwenye indawo apho sinokufumana khona ubungqina obungenakuphikiswa, kwaye ndicinga ukuba singabufumana oko kwi-1 Kumkani 11:33. Ukuba siya ku-1 Kumkani 11:33, siya kufumana apha kwi-BibleHub, esisibonelelo esilungileyo sokuphanda iBhayibhile kwiinguqulelo ezininzi. Ukujonga kweyoku-1 yooKumkani 11:33 kwibhayibhile ye-NIV sinayo: "Ndiza kuyenza le nto kuba bandishiyile, banqula uAshtoreti uthixokazi [isinye] samaSidoni, noKemoshe uthixo [oyedwa] wamaMowabhi, noMoleki uthixo [isinye] sama-Amon… ”
Kulungile, makhe sijonge ukuba ezo zibizo zesinye ziguqulelwe esiNgesini zabekwa njani kwezokuqala, kwaye kwi-interlinear sifumanisa ukuba ngalo lonke ixesha kuthethwa nguthixo okanye uthixokazi sinoElohim — 430 [e]. Kwakhona, “uthixokazi” 430, Elohim, nantsi "thixo", Elohim 430. Ukuqinisekisa nje — isalathi-magama sikaStrong — kwaye siyayifumana loo nto Elohim Nali igama elisetyenzisiweyo kwezi ndawo zintathu. Ke, kubonakala kuyacaca ukuba sijongana nokwakhiwa kwegrama. Nangona kunjalo, isigqebelo sayo yonke into kuxa umntu okholelwa kuBathathu Emnye ezama ukuxhasa uluvo lokuba ubuthixo okanye isininzi sikaYahweh — aba bantu bathathu emnye — babesaziwa, okanye baboniswe kwiZibhalo zesiHebhere ngokusebenzisa Elohim, eneneni banika iihenotheists, ezinjengoJim kunye nam, isiseko esihle sesikhundla sethu, kuba ubathathu Emnye usekwe kwingqikelelo yokuba kukho uThixo omnye. Yinto enye; uThixo omnye, abantu abathathu kuThixo omnye. Ke, ukuba u-Yahweh ubhekisele kuye njengo Elohim, Yehova Elohim, UYehova uThixo, okanye uYahweh uThixo uthetha ngoothixo abaninzi, kuyalandela ukuba kuthetha nge-henotheism, njengoko mna noJim samkela kwaye sibaninzi njengathi, ukuba uYahweh okanye uYHWH ngumenzi, onguThixo uSomandla kwaye ungaphantsi kwakhe yedwa Unyana ozelweyo ukwanguThixo. "Ilizwi nguThixo" kwaye njalo Elohim isebenza kakuhle kakhulu ukuxhasa ingcinga ye-henotheist, kwaye ke, kwixesha elizayo xa umntu eza kuqhubela phambili kum, ndicinga endaweni yokwenza impikiswano yegrama, ndiza kuthi, "Ewe, kulungile. Ndiyayamkela loo nto, kwaye loo nto iyangqina into esiyithethayo — henotheism. ” Ngapha koko, ukonwaba apho.
Ngaphambi kokuqhubeka, uphakamise into endicinga ukuba ababukeli bethu bazokuzibuza ngayo. Ukhankanye ukuba uYahweh yifom entsha kwaye uYehova ibiyindlela yakudala yenguqulelo yeYHWH. Ngaba kunjalo? Ngaba uYahweh yimo yakutshanje?
UJim: Ewe… kwaye yindlela ekuphikiswana ngayo, kodwa yamkelwe ngokubanzi luluntu ekufundeni njengokubonisa ukuba igama belikade linjani. Kodwa akukho mntu waziyo, ngokwenyani. Inye kuphela into elungileyo yokuqikelela.
UEric: Kunene. Ndiyazi ukuba kukho impikiswano eninzi ngoYehova. Baninzi abantu abacinga ukuba yayiligama elingelilo, kodwa eneneni isenokungasondeli kwindlela eyayibizwa ngayo ngoku njengokuba yayinjalo xa yayiqala ukubuyela kwinkulungwane ye-12. Okanye ngaba yayiyinkulungwane ye-13? 1260, ndiyacinga. Ndiya kwimemori. Uyazi ngcono kunam. Kodwa u "J" ngelo xesha wayene yah kuvakala njalo.
UJim: Ewe, njengoko isenza kwiilwimi zaseJamani naseScandinavia, kwaye mhlawumbi isiDatshi ukuza kuthi ga namhlanje. U “J” unesandi u “Y”. Kwaye oko kungena kwimbali yokusetyenziswa kwe- "J" esingazukuyenza apha.
UEric: Kunene. Kakuhle kakhulu. Enkosi. Ndifuna ukuyigubungela loo nto. Ndiyazi ukuba siza kufumana izimvo malunga naloo mgca, ukuba asiyilungisi ngoku.
Ke, ngaba ikhona enye into ofuna ukuyongeza malunga nayo, ndicinga ukuba ikhona into esuka kwiNdumiso 82 ukuba undichaze ngaphambili enxulumene noku.
UJim: Ewe ndonwabile ukuba uyiphakamisile loo nto kuba ngumzekelo ogqibeleleyo we-henotheism njengoko uMax Muller ebezakuyicacisa. Ngu, "Ndithe ningoothixo, kwaye nonke ningoonyana bOsenyangweni." Yiyo ayisiyiyo iNdumiso 82 iivesi 1 kodwa iya kwi-6 neye-7. Isixelela ngoThixo ehleli ebandleni likaThixo. Uzahlulele phakathi koothixo— “Ndithe ningoothixo kanti nonke ningoonyana bOsenyangweni.”
Nanko ke uThixo ehleli ebandleni loothixo; kwaye aliqela amatyala oku kwiiNdumiso. Andizukukhathazeka ngokuchaza apha, kodwa oku kunika umfanekiso kwaye ngamanye amaxesha, ewe, oothixo banokuba ngoothixo bobuxoki okanye iingelosi ezilungileyo. Kuyabonakala ukuba eli gama lisetyenziswa kwiingelosi, kwaye kwezinye iimeko lisetyenziswa kwizithixo zobuhedeni okanye isithixokazi sabahedeni — kukho ityala elinye kwiTestamente eNdala -kwaye lisetyenziswe nakwiingelosi, nakubantu abaphantsi kweemeko ezithile.
UEric: Egqwesileyo. Enkosi. Ngokwenyani, luluhlu lweZibhalo ozihlanganisileyo. Ngaphezulu kunokuba sinokugubungela apha. Ke, ndibabeke kuxwebhu kwaye nabani na onomdla wokubona lonke uluhlu ... ndiza kubeka ikhonkco kwinkcazo yale vidiyo ukuze bakwazi ukukhuphela uxwebhu kwaye bayihlole kwakhona ngexesha labo.
UJim: Oko kuya kulunga.
UEric: Enkosi. Ngenxa yokuba konke nje okuthethileyo, ngaba ikhona into ebonakalayo kwiZibhalo zangaphambi kobuKristu, okanye into abantu abaninzi abayibiza ngokuba yiTestamente Endala, zokuba uYesu unguThixo kwilungiselelo le-henotheistic?
UJim: Ewe, mandiqale nditsho ukuba ukubuyela umva njengakwiGenesis, kukho amaxesha amabini apho lo mgaqo we-henotheism ucace gca. Inye ikwi-akhawunti yangaphambi kukaNowa apho iSibhalo sithetha ngoonyana bakaThixo abaza ezantsi kwaye batshata iintombi zabantu. Lelinye lala matyala, oonyana bakaThixo. Yiyo loo nto baba zizithixo kubo okanye babonwa njengoothixo. Ezi zimele ukuba ziingelosi eziwileyo ngokwenkcazo kwincwadi engaphefumlelwanga kaEnoki, nakwi-2 Petros Ke unayo, kodwa enye ebaluleke kakhulu ikwincwadi yeMizekeliso apho ijongene nomxholo wobulumko. Ngoku uninzi lwabaphengululi luza kuthi, 'Ewe, oku… ezi ziimpawu zikaYahweh kwaye akufuneki zibonise umntu okanye hypostasis ". Kodwa enyanisweni njengokuba ixesha lihamba, ngakumbi kwindawo yeTestamente eNtsha, ekuqaleni, kwaye mhlawumbi ndingatsho kwaphambilana, ufumana uphononongo lomcimbi wonke wobulumko owenziwe umntu, kwaye oku encwadini yobulumko, nakwimisebenzi yomYuda wase-Aleksandriya, uPhilo, owayephila ngexesha likaYesu Krestu kwaye waliphatha ngeli gama uphawu, eya kubonisa into efana nobulumko kwincwadi yeMizekeliso nakwincwadi yobulumko. Ngoku kutheni malunga noku, okanye uthini malunga noku, ndimelwe kukuthini? Ewe, inyani yento kukuba igama elithi logos okanye iilogo, ngokuxhomekeke ekubeni uyafuna ukulibiza lifutshane okanye lide O-amaYuda okanye amaGrike ngomhla kaKristu bawaxuba bobabini ngalo lonke ixesha, ke ndiyaqikelela Ndikhululekile ku… kwinkululeko yokwenza… ukwenza into enye — kwaye nakweyiphi na imeko, eli gama likwigama lethu lesiNgesi elithi "logic", "logical" ukusuka kwilogos okanye iilogo, kwaye ibinomxholo wokuqiqa ngokunjalo kwaye yayifana kakhulu nobulumko, kwaye uPhilo ezantsi eAlexandria yase-Egypt wabona ubulumko kunye neelogo njengezinto ezifanayo, nanjengobuntu.
Uninzi lwabantu lukhombisile kwinto yokuba ubulumko kwiMizekeliso yibufazi, kodwa loo nto ayikhange imkhathaze uPhilo kwaphela. Uye wathi, “Ewe kunjalo, kodwa inokuqondwa njengendoda ngokunjalo. Okanye ubuncinci njengeelogo ziyindoda; ke ubulumko bunokubonisa umntu oyindoda okanye i-hypostasis.
UEric: Kunene.
UJim: Ngoku, okuninzi oku kujongwana nako ngokucacileyo kwimibhalo yomfundi wokuqala ongumKristu odumileyo, kwaye ujongana noku ngobude. Ke, into onayo apha yinto ebikhona ngokukodwa ngaphakathi nakwixesha likaYesu, kwaye nangona abaFarisi betyhola uYesu ngokwenza ukunyelisa esithi ungunyana kaThixo, wacaphula ngokuthe ngqo kwiiNdumiso kwaye wabonisa ukuba kuthethwa ngoothixo , Oothixo abaninzi, kwaye ngenxa yoko wathi, 'Ikhona. Kubhaliwe kwathiwa. Awunakukuthandabuza. Andinyelisi tu. Ke, umbono wawukho kakhulu ngexesha likaKristu.
UEric: Kunene. Enkosi. Ngokwenyani, bendisoloko ndicinga ukuba kufanelekile ukumntwiswa kukaKristu kunye no-pre-Christian okanye uYesu owayesele ekhona njenge logo kuba, njengobulumko, ndiyathetha, kuba njengoko ndiyiqonda, ubulumko bunokuchazwa njengokusetyenziswa kolwazi . Uyazi, ndingazi into kodwa ukuba andenzi nto ngolwazi, andibobulumko; ukuba ndisebenzisa ulwazi lwam, ke ndinobulumko. Kwaye ukudalwa kwendalo iphela ngoYesu, ngoYesu, noYesu, yayiyeyona mbonakaliso inkulu yokusetyenziswa kolwazi olusebenzayo. Ke, ubulumko obumntwisiweyo buhambelana ngokugqibeleleyo nendima yakhe njengomsebenzi ophambili kaThixo, ukuba uyafuna, ukusebenzisa igama elivela kwinkolo yethu yakudala.
Kodwa ngaba ikhona enye into oyifunayo ongeze kuyo malunga… oyithathileyo yabaseFilipi 2: 5-8? Ukheandixela oku kwangoko ngokubhekisele kubukho bukaKristu; kuba kukho abo bathandabuzayo ubunyani bayo, ocinga ukuba wabakho njengendoda, nangaphambi koko wabakhona.
UJim: Ewe. Esi sikhundla sithathwa ngamaqela awahlukeneyo, amaqela angengobathathu Emnye, kwaye kukho imbinana yawo, kwaye ingxoxo yawo yeyokuba uKristu wayengekho ngaphambi kobukho bakhe njengomntu. Wayengekho ezulwini, kodwa isicatshulwa esikweyabaseFilipi isahluko sesibini sichaza ngokuthe ngqo-kwaye uPawulos ukukunika umzekelo wokuthobeka apho abhala khona malunga noku- kwaye uthi akazange azame- ecacisa apha kunokuba acaphule — akazange azame ukuthatha isikhundla sikaYise kodwa wazithoba wathabatha ubume bomntu, nangona wayekuThixo; Imeko kaThixo, ekwimo katata. Akazange azame ukuthatha isikhundla sikaThixo njengoko uSathana abanjwe ukuba azame, kodwa wamkela icebo likaThixo waza wancama imeko yakhe yokomoya waza weza emhlabeni ngomntu. Oku kucace gca. Ukuba kukho umntu ofuna ukufunda isahluko sesibini sabaseFilipi. Ke, oku kubonisa ngokucacileyo ukubakho phambi kwam, kwaye andikufumani kunzima kakhulu ukukujikeleza oko.
Ewe kunjalo, kukho nezinye, ezinye izibhalo ezininzi ezinokuziswa. Ndinencwadi epapashwe ngamadoda ambalwa angamaCawa kaThixo, Ukholo luka-Abraham, kwaye ngamnye kubo uzama ukuphelisa umbono wobukho, besithi, 'Kulungile oku ... oku akuhambelani neengcinga zamaJuda , kwaye ndicinga ukuba bubuxoki oboyikekayo xa uthetha ngengcinga yamaJuda okanye ingcinga yamaGrike okanye eyomnye umntu, kuba kukho izimvo ezahlukeneyo kulo naluphi na uluntu kwaye ucebise ukuba akukho mHebhere owakha wacinga ukuba kukho into engekhoyo yinto engekhoyo. Ngokuqinisekileyo, uPhilo ezantsi eYiputa wayenjalo, kwaye wayephila ngexesha likaYesu Kristu.
UEric: Kunene.
UJim: Kwaye bathanda ukuthi, 'Ewe, oku kukuxelwa kwangaphambili nguThixo okuza kwenzeka kwikamva'. Kwaye abalwi nala manqaku abonisa ukuba babekho.
UEric: Ewe. Kunzima kakhulu ukujongana nabo ngoko ke ababahoyi. Ndiyazibuza ukuba ingaba le nto siyibonayo eluntwini exhasa ukubakho kwasekuqaleni iyafana na naleyo siyibonayo kumaNgqina kaYehova azama nzima ukushiya uBathathu Emnye ade aye kwelinye icala. AmaNgqina enza uYesu abe yingelosi nje, nangona eyingelosi enkulu, kwaye amanye amaqela amenza umntu, engazange abekho ngaphambili. Zombini ziyimfuneko… kulungile, akuyomfuneko… kodwa zombini ziyindlela yokusabela, ndicinga ukuba, imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye, kodwa iyasabela; Ukuya kude kakhulu ngenye indlela.
UJim: Injalo loo nto, kwaye namaNgqina ayenze into ethubeni. Ngoku, xa ndandisemtsha kumaNgqina kaYehova. Kwakungathandabuzeki ukuba kukho intlonipho enkulu ngoKristu kwaye ixesha elide, amangqina aya kuthandaza kuKristu kwaye abulele kuKristu; kwaye kwiminyaka edlulileyo, ewe, bayisusile loo nto, kwaye bathi awufanelanga uthandaze kuKristu, awufanelanga unqule uKrestu. Ufanele unqule uBawo kuphela; Kwaye bathathe isikhundla esibi kakhulu samaJuda. Ngoku ndibhekisa kubaFarisi kunye namaJuda aphikisana noKrestu ekuthatheni isikhundla, kuba zininzi iindawo kwiTestamente eNtsha apho ibonisa, ngakumbi kumaHebhere, ukuba amaKristu okuqala ayemnqula uKristu njengonyana kaYise. Ke, baye bafudukela kude kwelinye icala, kwaye kum kubonakala ngathi bebe… ukuba kakhulu abahambelani neTestamente eNtsha.
UEric: Bahambile ukuza kuthi ga kwiveki ephelileyo IMboniselo Ukufunda, bekukho ingxelo yokuba akufuneki simthande uKristu encinci kwaye akufuneki simthande kakhulu. Enjani yona into ukububudenge ukuyenza; kodwa ibonisa indlela abamhlise ngayo uKrestu kuhlobo lomzekelo kunokuba beyinyani. Kwaye mna nawe siye saqonda ukuba ungokobuthixo. Ke, uluvo lokuba akangobuthixo okanye akanguye uhlobo lukaThixo asiyonto siyala ngayo nangayiphi na indlela, kodwa kukho umahluko phakathi kokuba nguthixo nokuba nguThixo ngokwakhe, kwaye ndicinga ukuba sifikelela kweso Sibhalo sinamathele ngoku kuYohane 1: 1. Ngaba ungathanda ukujongana nayo nathi?
UJim: Ewe ndingathanda. Esi sisibhalo esiphambili kuTrinitari kwaye sisibhalo esingesiso sobuTriniti. Kwaye ukuba ujonga kwiinguqulelo zebhayibhile, zininzi ezazibhekisa kuYesu njengoThixo nabanye abathi… ezazibhekisa kuye njengoThixo, kwaye iSibhalo esithile, ngesiGrike sithi: En archē ēn ho Logos kai ho Logos kwi pros ton Theon kai Theos kwi Logos. Kwaye ndingakunika eyam inguqulelo, kwaye ndicinga ukuba ifundeka ngolu hlobo: "Ekuqaleni yayingu-Logos-igama, Oko kukuthi, ngenxa yokuba uLogos uthetha ukuba phakathi kwezinto ezahlukeneyo-kwaye uLogos wayejamelene noThixo noThixo okanye uthixo igama ".
Kutheni ndiguqulela kule nto njengokuba iilogo zazijonge kuThixo? Ewe, kunokuba uLogos wayekunye noThixo? Ewe, kuba ukwenzeka kweli meko, ngempumelelo, ngesiKoine Greek ayifuni ngqo into eyenziwa ngo “with” ngesiNgesi, apho ufumana khona uluvo “kunye” okanye “ngokudibene no”. Kodwa eli gama lithetha into engaphantsi kwelo, okanye mhlawumbi ngaphezulu koko.
Kwaye uHelen Barrett Montgomery kwinguqulelo yakhe kaJohn 1 ukuya ku-3, kwaye ndifunda enye yale nto, kukuba ubhala athi: "Ekuqalekeni yayililizwi kwaye ilizwi lalibhekane ubuso ngobuso noThixo kwaye uLizwi wayenguThixo."
Ngoku leyo inomdla wokufuna ukwazi. eziluncedo kuthetha ukuba ubuso ngobuso okanye ngaphandle kukaThixo kwaye kubonisa ukuba bekukho abantu aba-2 apho kwaye bengekho kwinto enye kwaye ndiza kungena koko kamva.
Into ebangela umdla kukuba le yayiyimpapasho, okanye yaba lupapasho lweAmerican Baptist Society, ke wayekhwele njengoThixo oneziqu ezithathu. Kwakunjalo ke noCharles B. Williams, kwaye unegama okanye uLogos esithi ubuso ngobuso noThixo kwaye ufana naye, yena, kuyacaca, kucacile ukuba ungumTriniti. Ukuguqulelwa kwangasese kulwimi lwabantu ngo-1949 kwanikezelwa kwi-Moody Bible Institute ukuba ipapashwe, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo abo bantu babengabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye. Kungoko ke sineendidi ngeenguqulelo zesiNgesi nakwezinye iilwimi, ngakumbi isiJamani, ezi… zithi, “uLizwi wayenguThixo”, kwaye ke abaninzi bathi, “kwaye uLizwi wayenguThixo”, okanye "igama lalingcwele".
Uninzi lwabaphengululi bebenovalo kwaye isizathu soku kukuba kwisiGrike xa igama lithatha isichazi, kwaye isichazi kwisiNgesi ngu "the", kwaye ke sithi "uthixo", kodwa ngesiGrike, bekukho akukho "thixo" ngengqiqo yokoqobo. Kwaye indlela abayiphathe ngayo le nto…
EsisityebiAkukho nqaku lingenasiphelo.
UJim: Injalo loo nto, kwaye indlela abayiphathe ngayo le nto kukuba bekungekho gama inqaku elingenammiselo njenge "a" okanye "an" ngesiNgesi kwaye amaxesha amaninzi, xa ubona isibizo ngaphandle kwenqaku, ngaphandle kwenqaku elichazayo, ucinga ukuba kwinguqulelo yesiNgesi, kufanele ukuba ibekho ngokungenammiselo kunokuba ichaze. Ke xa isithi "uLogos" ngaphambili esiBhalweni ngenqaku elichazayo kodwa kodwa iqhubeke ithi uLogos yayinguThixo, ke akukho nqaku liphambi kwelo gama, "uthixo", ke unokucinga ukuba ngokwenyani yenyani, kuya kufuneka uguqulele esi siqendu ngokuthi “nguThixo” kunokuba sithi “nguThixo”. Kwaye kukho iinguqulelo ezininzi ezenza loo nto, kodwa enye kufuneka ilumke. Umntu kufuneka alumke. Awunakuthetha ngolu hlobo kuba iigrama zibonise ukuba zininzi iimeko apho izibizo ngaphandle kwenqaku elichazayo zisasebenza. Kwaye le mpikiswano iyaqhubeka intengiso. Kwaye ukuba uthe wakholelwa kuZiqu-zintathu, uyopla idesika kwaye uthi, "Ewe, kuyinyani eqinisekileyo ukuba xa uLogos kusithiwa unguThixo, oko kuthetha ukuba ungomnye wabantu abathathu kuBathathu Emnye, kwaye unguThixo. ” Kukho abanye abathi, "Hayi nakanye".
Ewe, ukuba ujonge kwimibhalo yesiQalo, ngubani ongoyena uphambili kubaphengululi abangamaKrestu, ngewayedibene nabantu abathi, “uthixo” uchanekile, kwaye uyakuba ngumxhasi Inguqulelo yamaNgqina kaYehova apho banalo ukuba "uLizwi wayenguThixo".
UEric: Kunene.
UJim: kwaye… kodwa asinakho ukuqiniseka ngenkani malunga noko. Akunakwenzeka ukuba uqiniseke ngayo, kwaye ukuba ujonga i-Unitarians kwelinye icala kunye nabathathu Emnye kwelinye, baya kulwa malunga noku kwaye baveze zonke iintlobo zeengxabano, kwaye iingxabano ziyaqhubeka intengiso. Kwaye uyazibuza ngamacala ahlukeneyo: Ukuba ngaba abo basebenza emva kwexesha bayachaneka xa besithi, "Kulungile, yile nto umfundi ayikhuphileyo kuxwebhu olubhaliweyo endaweni yomntu obhale olu xwebhu". Ewe, asikwazi ukuya kude.
Kodwa ndingathanda, ndingacebisa ke ukuba ukuphikisana ngobume begrama yesi sicatshulwa kuYohane 1: 1-3, kungcono ukusebenzisa enye indlela yokufunda lo mbandela uphela, kwaye ndicinga ukuba kungenxa yokuba ndiza kwezi zinto isiseko soqeqesho lwam. Ndingumbhali-mbali ngokusisiseko; I-PhD yam yayikwimbali. Nangona ndandinomntwana omncinci kwizifundo zonqulo ngelo xesha kwaye ndichithe ixesha elininzi ndifunda inye inkolo, kodwa inkolo ezininzi, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo iZibhalo; kodwa ndingatsho ukuba indlela yokusondela koku yimbali.
UEric: Kunene.
UJim: Oko kubeka ezi Zibhalo, ezi ndinyana zingumxholo wento eyenzeka kwinkulungwane yokuqala, xa uYesu Kristu wayesaphila kwaye emva nje kokuba efile; Kwaye inyani yoku kukuba imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye ayizange ibekho, nokuba ibetha ngokupheleleyo okanye ayizange ibethwa ngokupheleleyo, kwiinkulungwane emva kokuba uKrestu eswelekile, kwaye uninzi lwabaphengululi bayayazi le nto namhlanje. Kwaye inani elingahleliwe kwinani lama-Katolika alungileyo, abafundi abafundileyo abangamaKatolika bayakuqonda oku.
UEric: Ngoko ...
UJim: Ndicinga ukuba ibalasele.
UEric: Ke, ngaphambi kokuba ungene kuloo nto-ebangela eyona nto kugxilwe kuyo kule vidiyo, imbali-ukucacisa wonke umntu ofumana udidekile kwingxoxo kaJohn 1: 1, ndicinga ukuba ngumgaqo owamkelweyo ngokubanzi phakathi kwabo bafundayo Ngokucacileyo ibhayibhile ithi ukuba kukho isicatshulwa esingaqondakaliyo, nesinokuthathwa ngendlela eyahlukileyo, ke eso sicatshulwa asinakuba bubungqina kodwa kunokuba sisebenze njengenkxaso, nje ukuba usete ubungqina obomeleleyo kwenye indawo.
Ke, u-John 1: 1 angayixhasa imfundiso yoThixo oneziqu ezithathu, ukuba ungangqina uBathathu Emnye kwenye indawo. Iya kuxhasa ukuqonda kwe-henotheistic, ukuba singangqina kwenye indawo. Yiloo nto esiza kuyenza… kulungile, siza kuthatha iindlela ezintathu. Le yinxalenye 1. Siya kuba neevidiyo ezimbini ubuncinci. Umntu uya kuvavanya ubungqina bokusetyenziswa kukaBathathu Emnye; Omnye uya kuvavanya ubungqina obusetyenzisiweyo bama-Aryan, kodwa okwangoku ndicinga ukuba imbali yeyona ndlela ibaluleke kakhulu yokuseka isiseko okanye ukungabikho kwemfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Ke, ndiza kuwushiya umhlaba uvulekile kuwe.
UJim: Masibe sihle kakhulu. Ndicinga ukuba kucacile ukuba kwakungekho mfundiso kaBathathu Emnye kwisibini sokuqala senkulungwane, hayi ngohlobo lokuba ikho namhlanje. Ubathathu Emnye akazange eze nakwiBhunga laseNicaea ngowama-325 AD njengoko uninzi lwabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye babenalo. Ngokwenyani, into esinayo eNicaea kukwamkelwa kwemfundiso ye…
UEric: Ubuntu.
UJim: Ewe, ngabantu aba-2 endaweni yesi-3. Kwaye isizathu soku yayikukuba babekhathazekile ikakhulu kulwalamano lukayise nonyana. UMoya oyiNgcwele khange ukhankanywe ngeli xesha konke konke, ke ngoko waba nemfundiso yobuBinatarian eyaphuhliswayo apho, hayi iTriniti, nokuba bafike kule nto besebenzisa igama elithile, "hamaucious", elithetha into enye isiyobisi, kwaye baphikisana ukuba utata kunye nonyana yinto enye.
Ngoku le yaziswa nguMlawuli uConstantine, kwaye wayengumKristu okhethekileyo, ukuba ungathi. Wayengabhaptizwanga de wayekulungele ukufa. Kwaye wenza ubugebenga obunzulu obuninzi, kodwa waba ngumntu oqinisekileyo ngobuKrestu, kodwa wayefuna ukuba kube ngolungeleleneyo, ke ngoko wagqiba kwelokuba kuphele iingxoxo ezaziqhubeka. Kwaye wazisa eli lizwi kwaye oku kwanelisa iqela le-Trinitarian okanye iqela le-binatarian njengoko babenjalo ngelo xesha, kuba bafuna ukubhengeza uArius, owayengumntu ongafuniyo ukwamkela lo mbono, njengomqhekeki. Kwaye yayikukuphela kwendlela ababenokumchaza ngayo njengomqhekeki. Kwaye ke bazise eli gama eliye laba yinxalenye yenkolo yamaKatolika ukusukela ubuncinci ngokwembono yeqela elinye.
Ke, uBathathu Emnye ulibele kakhulu. Kuza kamva kakhulu xa babhengeza uMoya oyiNgcwele ukuba ngumntu wesi-3 kaBathathu Emnye. Kwaye ngama-381.
UEric: Kwaye omnye uMlawuli wabandakanyeka kwaye yayingenguye?
UJim: Kuko oko. UTheodosius Omkhulu.
UEric: Ke, akaphelelanga ekunqandeni ubuhedeni kuphela kodwa iArianism yakho evaliweyo okanye nayiphi na into engeyiyo kaBathathu Emnye… ke, kwakukuchasene nomthetho ukukholelwa ukuba uThixo wayengenguye uBathathu Emnye.
UJim: Injalo loo nto, injalo loo nto. Kwaba yinto engekho mthethweni ukuba ngumhedeni okanye umKristu waseArian kwaye zonke ezi zikhundla zavalwa kwaye zatshutshiswa, nangona iArianism yahlala ngaphandle kwintlango yezizwe zaseJamani ngenxa yokuba ama-Arians athumela abavangeli ngaphandle kwaye aguqula uninzi lwezizwe zaseJamani Ukoyisa iNtshona Yurophu kunye nenxalenye eseNtshona yoBukhosi baseRoma.
UEric: Kulungile, mandiqonde oku, unoluvo olungachazwanga ngokucacileyo kwiZibhalo nakwimibhalo yezembali eyayingaziwa kubuKrestu benkulungwane yokuqala neyesibini; iba nempikiswano ebandleni; kwakulawulwa ngumlawuli ongumhedeni owayengabhaptizwanga ngelo xesha; kwaye ke unamaKristu angakholwanga, wawatshutshisa; Kwaye sikholelwa ukuba uThixo akamsebenzisanga uYesu Krestu nabapostile ukutyhila oku kodwa wasebenzisa umlawuli ongumhedeni oya kuthi emva koko atshutshise abo bangavumelaniyo.
UJim: Injalo loo nto, nangona kamva wabuyayo, wajika wawela phantsi kwempembelelo ka-Arian Bishop kwaye wabhaptizwa ekugqibeleni ngama-Arians endaweni yabaTriniti.
UEric: Kulungile. Isisithukuthezi kukuhla oku.
UJim: Ewe, xa singena koku ngaphambili, uyakufumanisa ukuba phantse zonke izigqibo ezazenziwe kumabhunga ezakwalizwi zenziwa ngenkxaso yabasemagunyeni, abalawuli baseRoma, kwaye ekugqibeleni omnye wabo wayezimisele ngomnye wabo. oopopu, kwaye loo nto yayijongana nombuzo kaKristu osenyameni, owayefanele ukubonwa kwaye anqulwe njengoThixo ngokupheleleyo nomntu ngokupheleleyo.
Ke, ukuzimisela kwemfundiso akunakwenziwa ngecawe emanyeneyo konke konke. Yenziwa koko kuye kwayicawe emanyeneyo okanye icawe emanyeneyo phantse phantsi koncedo lwabasemagunyeni.
UEric: Kulungile, enkosi. Ke, ukwenza nje into yokushwankathela ingxoxo yethu namhlanje, bendibukele ividiyo kaTriniti echaza imfundiso, kwaye wavuma ukuba kunzima kakhulu ukuyiqonda, kodwa wathi “ayikhathali into yokuba andiqondi yiyo. Ichazwe ngokucacileyo eBhayibhileni, ngoko ke kufuneka ndamkele ngokholo oko kuchazwe ngokupheleleyo. ”
Kodwa kule nto undixelela yona, akukho bungqina eBhayibhileni, okanye kwimbali yohlanga lwakwaSirayeli ngaphambi kukaKristu, nakweyiphi na indawo yobuKristu ukuya kuthi ga kwinkulungwane yesi-3 yayo nayiphi na imbonakaliso ecacileyo kaBathathu Emnye.
UJim: Injalo loo nto, injalo loo nto; kwaye akukho nkxaso icacileyo kuyo ngamabhunga ecawa kude kube ngama-381. Mhle emva kwexesha. Kwaye kumaXesha Aphakathi, ewe, iicawa zaseMpuma kunye necawa yaseNtshona yeRoma zahlukana, ngokuyinxenye, kwimicimbi ebandakanya uBathathu Emnye. Ke, akuzange kubekho ndawo imanyeneyo kwizinto ezininzi. Sinamaqela anje ngamaKristu angamaCoptic ase-Egypt kunye namaNestori kunye nabanye ababephakathi kumaXesha Aphakathi abangazange bazamkele ezinye zeembono zebhunga lokugqibela elalijongene nobume bukaKrestu.
UEric: Kunene. Kukho abathile abaya kuthi, “Ewe, akunamsebenzi nokuba uyakholelwa ukuba uBathathu Emnye akakho. Sonke singamakholwa kuKristu. Konke kulungile. ”
Ndiyayibona imbono, kodwa kwelinye icala, ndicinga ngoYohane 17: 3 othi eyona njongo yobomi, ubomi obungunaphakade, kukwazi uThixo nokwazi unyana kaThixo, uYesu Krestu, kwaye ukuba siqala uhambo lwethu lolwazi kwisiseko esingeyonyani, kwisiseko sobugcisa esibuthathaka nesiphene, asizukufumana le nto sifuna ukuyifumana. Kungcono ukuqala kwinyani kwaye uyongeze.
Ke, le ngxoxo, ndicinga ukuba, ibalulekile kuba ukwazi uYehova uThixo okanye uYahW okanye uYHWH, njengoko unqwenela ukumbiza, kwaye ukwazi unyana wakhe, u-Yeshua okanye uYesu, kubalulekile ngokwenene kwinjongo yethu yokugqibela yokuba simnye noThixo ngenjongo kunye ezingqondweni nasentliziyweni nokuba singabantwana bakaThixo.
UJim: Makhe ndikuthethe oku xa ndivala, Eric: Xa uyema ucinge ngenani labantu kwiinkulungwane ezidlulileyo ababuleweyo ngamaKatolika, amaRoma Katolika, amaOrthodox aseGrisi, amaKristu angamaCalvin, abalandeli bakaJohn Calvin umbutho ohlaziyiweyo, amaLuthere kunye namaTshetshi, ekuhambeni kweminyaka abantu abaninzi baye babulawa ngenxa yokwala ukwamkela imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Iyothusa! Kakade ke, elona tyala laziwa kakhulu lelokutshiswa kwesibonda sikaServetus ngenkulungwane ye-16, ngenxa yokwala kwakhe uBathathu Emnye; kwaye nangona uJohn Calvin wayengafuni ukuba atshiswe esibondeni, wayefuna ukukhokelwa, kwaye yayiliBhunga okanye iqela elilawulayo eGeneva elathi lagqiba ekubeni atshiselwe esibondeni. Kwaye babebaninzi abanye abathi… amaJuda anyanzelwa ukuba aguqukele kubuKatolika eSpain emva koko abuyela umva kubuYuda — abanye babo babengamaYuda noorabhi bamaJuda — kodwa ukuze bazikhusele ngaphandle, baba ngabefundisi bamaKatolika, eyayiyinto engaqhelekanga ngokwenene, kwaye uninzi lwaba bantu, ukuba babanjwa, babulawa. Yayiyinto embi leyo. I-Unitarians nokuba ngaba-zazikhona iintlobo ezohlukeneyo-kodwa bephika uBathathu Emnye, batshutshiswa eNgilani kwaye bagwetywa kude kube ngekhulu le-19; kwaye uninzi lwabaphengululi ababalaseleyo babengabachasi uBathathu Emnye: UJohn Milton, uSir Isaac Newton, uJohn Locke, kwaye kamva kwinkulungwane ye-19, indoda eyafumanisa ioksijini-ikhaya layo kunye nethala leencwadi zatshatyalaliswa lihlokondiba kwaye kwafuneka abaleke E-United States apho wathathwa khona nguThomas Jefferson.
Ke, into onayo yimfundiso apho zonke iintlobo zabantu zithandabuzayo kunye nezenzo ezingenaluthando zabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye zibe mbi. Ngoku, loo nto ayithethi kuthi abanye abantu be-Unitarian bebengaphantsi kobuKristu ngokuziphatha kwabo, njengoko sisazi kakuhle. Kodwa inyani kukuba, ibiyimfundiso ekhuselweyo rhoqo sisibonda, itshisa esibondeni. Kwaye le yinto eyoyikekayo kuba inyani kukuba xa ujonga abahamba icawa banamhlanje. Umntu oqhelekileyo oya ecaweni, nokuba ingumKatolika, i-Anglican, umhambi oguqukayo… abaninzi, abanye abaninzi… abayiqondi, abantu abayazi imfundiso kwaye ndinabafundisi abaninzi ngeCawe yoBathathu Emnye, eyinxalenye yekhalenda yecawa, abazi ukuba mabenze ntoni ngayo kuba nabo abayiqondi.
Kunzima kakhulu, imfundiso enzima kakhulu yokwenza ukuba intloko yakho ijikeleze.
UEric: Ke, ndiza kuva inyani, akukho mfuneko yokuba sidlule kumazwi kaYesu akuMateyu 7 apho athi, "Niya kuyazi ngemisebenzi yabo aba bantu." Banokuthetha intetho elungileyo, kodwa imisebenzi yabo ityhila umoya wabo oyinyani. Ngaba ngumoya kaThixo obakhokelayo ukuba bathande okanye ngaba ngumoya kaSathana obakhokelela ekubeni bazonde? Isenokuba yeyona nto inomdla kuye nabani na ofuna ulwazi kunye nobulumko malunga noku.
UJim: Ewe, imbali yale mfundiso ithile yoyikekayo.
UEric: Ewe, kunjalo.
UJim: Ngaba kunjalo.
UEric: Ewe, enkosi kakhulu Jim ukuba ulixabise ixesha lakho kwaye ndiyabulela wonke umntu ngokubukela. Siza kubuyela kwakhona kwinxalenye 2 yolu ngcelele ngokukhawuleza nje ukuba sibeke lonke uphando lwethu kunye. Ke, ndiza kuthi ga ngoku.
UJim: Kwaye ngokuhlwa
Molo Uxolo ngolwimi, kodwa kufuneka ndisebenzise umguquleli. Ndingathanda ukukubulela ngokuzisa esi sihloko sibaluleke kangaka malunga nokuba uThixo unguBathathu Emnye. Ndineminyaka engaphezu kwama-30 ndifunda umbandela kaBathathu Emnye. Ndafunda ngokukhawuleza ukuba le yayiyimfundiso engekho eBhayibhileni. Malunga neminyaka esi-7 eyadlulayo, sinomntu ofana nengqondo, saqala ibhlog https://blog.antytrynitarianie.pl/, apho sizama ukunceda abantu bazi okuphela koThixo, YHWH kunye noNyana waKhe, njengawe. Kumangenelo angaphezu kwekhulu, sixoxa ngeevesi ezininzi zeBhayibhile eziphikisana nemfundiso ye... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Izimvo zikaJack zamva nje zilunge kakhulu. Ndingathanda ukuxhasa le ngcaciso ngezikhonkwane ezisixhenxe kwibhokisi yebhokisi ye-Trinity. UYESU UNOTHIXO. UYEHOVA NGUTHIXO KAYESU KRISTU. Inguquko: "Athi uYesu kuye, Kubhaliwe kwathiwa, Uze ungayihendi iNkosi uThixo wakho. (Mat 4: 7) “Ke kaloku, malunga nelixa lesithoba, wadanduluka uYesu ngezwi elikhulu, esithi, Eli! Eli! Lama sabhaktani? Oko kukuthi, Thixo wam! Thixo wam! Undishiye ngani na? (Mat 27:46) “Uthe ke uYesu kuye, Yini na ukuba uthi ndilungile? Akukho ulungileyo, mnye kwaphela, kukuthi,... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Sawubona uFrankie (kwakhona), Zininzi iingxelo kwizibhalo ezithetha ngoYesu ngobuntu, kwaye zininzi izibhalo ezithetha ngobuThixo baKhe, kufuneka sibuze ukuba kutheni kunjalo? Uyakholelwa na ukuba uYesu ungowokuqala nowokugqibela onguThixo ongunaphakade? Abafundi beli nqaku bebengazukuntywila kubudlelwane bexesha okanye kwimetaphysics yokuchaza oku. Ngebabeyiqondile le ntetho ukuba uYesu ungunaphakade kuba enguThixo, akanasiqalo nasiphelo, oku kuthetha ukuba uYesu akazange adalwe, kungenjalo sichaza njani... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ngaba uYesu wayekufundisa ukuzinqula? Hayi.
UYesu wayenqula uThixo omnye, uYise.
Ityala livaliwe
Entle!
Inkxaso yemfundiso kaBathathu Emnye ngokusekwe kwezi zihloko zilandelayo? ………. Ikopishwe kwelinye iqonga. Njengokuba olu luhlu luqhubekeka inqaku linokuchongwa ukujongana nale mfundiso # 1 INANI LIKATHIXO Kuyacaca ukuba ngolandelelwano, uThixo ukuphela koBuntu onokuba "ngowokuqala nowokugqibela / wokuQala nokuPhela / uAlfa no-Omega" ngaxeshanye kuba wayekho ngaphambi kwayo yonke into eyenziweyo kwaye ukuphela kwaKhe oya kuhlala xa egqiba ukuphelisa bonke ubukho. Ngaxeshanye "owokuQala nowokuGqibela" linani kuphela elingadalwanga elinokuba nalo. 2 UMGWEBO KATHIXO Siyazi ukuba uYEHWEH,... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Masithathe into ibe nye ngexesha: # 1 INOMBOLO KATHIXO Akukho nto injalo njengakuqala ngaphandle kokuba kubekho eyesibini. Kuya kubakho ukulandelelana ngexesha lokuba kubekho owokuqala nowokugqibela. Ke uThixo ngowokuqala Yintoni? Ayisiyo into yokuqala eyenziweyo. Ke ngoku? UThixo ukhona ngaphandle kwexesha. UYesu ngulowo ezenzelwe yena, kwaye zadalelwa zonke izinto, kubandakanya ixesha. Ke uYesu (nokuba unguThixo okanye ungokuphela kothixo ozelweyo, ohlukile kuThixo uYise) ukwangaphandle kwexesha kwaye ke ngaphambi kwexesha. Mna... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Siyazi kwisayensi ukuba ixesha liguquka. Siyazi ukuba isantya esihamba ngaso sixhomekeke kwisantya apho into ihamba khona xa isondela kwisantya sokukhanya. Ukusuka koku, kubonakala ngathi ixesha kunye nendawo ziyinxalenye yendalo. Siyazi ukuba uThixo akathobeli nantoni na eya kubandakanya ixesha.
Esi sisigqibo sam esisekwe kubungqina obuphambi kwam. Unokuba nenye eyahlukileyo kwaye wamkelekile kuyo, ewe.
Ewe Eric, unyanisile. Indalo iphela yenziwa lixesha lesithuba-indawo kaMinkowski ye-4-dimensional space: x1, x2, x3, kunye c (yexesha). Umzekelo, ixesha eliphakathi kweziganeko ezibini alihlali rhoqo phakathi kwababukeli, kodwa kuxhomekeke kwizantya ezinxulumene phakathi kwezakhelo zesalathiso (Inguqulelo kaLorentz - ii-equations ezine ezisetyenziselwa ukubala kwakhona ulungelelwaniso lwendawo kunye nexesha kuguquko phakathi kweenkqubo zokunxibelelanisa ezingenanto). Ukongeza, kukho ukunciphisa (ukunciphisa) ixesha. Ngokwethiyori yokuhambelana, ukunciphisa ixesha yipropathi yexesha ngokwalo, ke ngokunyusa isantya kungekuphela nje iwotshi ehambayo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Obu bubungqina bokuba ixesha liyakwazi ukutshintsha: % 20a% 20stationary% 20one. & Text = Bambalwa% 20sosayensi% 20ukuthandabuza% 20e% 20Einstein% 20was% 20right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E20%20%20Keating_experiment Oku kungqina ukuba ukuhamba kwexesha aku “hluki” ngokokwahluka kwesantya, kodwa okunene kuyahluka, kwaye ngokuhambelana namaxabiso axelwe kwangaphambili kwithiyori ka-Einstein . Kwakhona, umbono wokuba uThixo akanakuxoka umisela elam inqaku kunokuba woyise. Ukuxoka bekuya kuba kukuthobela into ethile. Xa sixoka, siyona size sibe ngamakhoboka esono. UThixo akanakho ukuthobela nantoni na, nokuba likhoboka layo nantoni na, kodwa zonke izinto ziphantsi kwakhe. ". . Kuba izinto zonke wazithobela phantsi kweenyawo zakhe. Kodwa xa yena... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndikunike izingqinisiso ezibini kulingo lwenzululwazi oluxhasa enye yam amanqaku aphambili, ukanti uyawahoya, kwaye ubange ukuba le bendiyithetha ayiyonyani. Ngapha koko, undityhola ngokuqala inkolo. Kubonakala ngathi usebenza kwingqikelelo yokuba kuba awukwazi ukucinga nantoni na ekhoyo ngaphambi kokudalwa kwexesha, akukho nto inokubakho. Ukanti uqikelela ukuba ndinguye othanda ukuba neenkolelo. Ndikulungele ukuxoxa ngeendlela ezahlukeneyo zokujonga, kodwa ukuba uza kuba ngumntu kwaye umangalele, iyayeka ukonwaba.
U-Eric Kutheni uchitha ixesha kunye nokuBuza nje iingxoxo ezixhalabisayo, kufanelekile ukuba amkelwe ukuba aphawule apha njengoko enendlela ende yokukubiza kule forum. (Unomonde ongaphezulu kuninzi) ndiyakholelwa ukuba akanakukwazi ukuzinceda njengoko enezakhe, engaziwa nathi, kwi-ajenda. Ndicebisa ukuba atshintshe i-avatar yakhe abe yiNgxoxo nje, kuba ukuba uziva ngenene ukuba wenza izinto akutyhola ngazo, kutheni eza kuqhubeka nje apha? Ndiqinisekile ukuba baninzi abatyelele le foram kule minyaka kwaye andivumelani kwaphela... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UYesu wathetha kubo bonke kuquka nabagxeki bakhe.
YiMboniselo eyenza ngenye indlela.
Ndiqhwabela izandla iinzame zikaEric zokugcina iindlela zonxibelelwano zivulekile kunye nabo bangavumelaniyo.
Ndiyabulela kuni nobabini. Ndiyabona omabini amacala engxoxo. UPawulos wathi kuTimoti: Ndiyaphinda ndithi, musa ukuzibandakanya kwiingxoxo ezingenangqondo, ezingenangqondo eziqala ukulwa. Isicaka seNkosi akufuneki sixabane, koko masibe nobubele kubo bonke, sibe nako ukufundisa, sinyamezele abantu abakhohlakeleyo. Ngenisa ngobunono abo bayichasayo inyaniso. Mhlawumbi uThixo angazitshintsha iintliziyo zabo bantu, bayifunde inyaniso. Emva koko baya kubuyela ezingqondweni, basinde kumgibe kaSathana. Kuba babanjiwe nguye ukuba benze nantoni na ayifunayo. (2 Timoti... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Le problee nona pas d'accepter ou pas un avis contraire. U-Eric wamkela imeko echaseneyo. Le ngxaki iphambili kule TON de JA. I-Ses propos sont acerbes, autoritaires et manquent de intlonipho. De dibanisa izityholo zeses sont FAUSSES. Indawo yomntu ngamnye, et sûrement pas Eric, a désir de créer une religion. Ndixelele ukuba yintoni le ndiyifunayo ndiyenze kwakhona ukuze ndikhethe into endiyifunayo. Nous sommes des chrétiens, conduisons nous en chrétiens remplis d'amour et de sollicitude. Ce serait dommage de se priver de ses très bonnes idées mais vraiment appliquons tous Colossoens 4: 6 [6] Que votre parole... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Andikholelwa ekujikeni nabani na, uYesu akazange.
Ndingazi njani ukuba inokuba wenzani uThixo entliziyweni yomntu? Okanye indlela iingcinga kunye neenkolelo zomnye umntu ezinokuzilola ngayo ezam?
Ngale ndlela ndiyayigcina eyam intliziyo ingandikhohlisi ndicinge ukuba ndingamgweba umntu. Andinako.
Kufuneka sizobe umgca kwenye indawo, kodwa elowo kuthi makagqibe apho anokuzoba khona. U-2 Yohane 6-11 uyenza icace into yokuba kukho imida ekuzimiseleni kwethu ukumamela nakubani na. KwanoYesu wabonisa ukucaphuka ngamanye amaxesha nabantu abaneentliziyo ezilukhuni. “Ngoko ke bathi kuye:“ Ungubani na? ” UYesu wathi kubo: “Kutheni na ukuba ndithethe nje kuni? Ndinezinto ezininzi zokuthetha malunga nani nokugweba. Ewe, lowo undithumileyo uyinyaniso, kwaye zona kanye izinto endazivayo kuye ndim... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
(Yohane 8: 25-30) 25 Ngoko ke bathi kuye: “Ungubani na?” UYesu wathi kubo: “Kutheni na ukuba ndithethe nje kuni? 26 Ndinezinto ezininzi zokuthetha malunga nani nokugweba. Kakade ke, lowo undithumileyo uyinyaniso, kwaye nezinto endazivayo kuye ndithetha zona kanye ehlabathini. ” 27 Akaqondanga ukuba ebethetha ngoYise kuwo. 28 Ngoko ke uYesu wathi: “Xa nithe namphakamisa uNyana woMntu, ngoko niya kwazi ukuba ndinguye, nokuba mna ndinguye,... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kuyinyani, kodwa bendisebenzisa esi sicatshulwa ukubonisa umsindo wakhe. Ukulandela ingcinga oyichazayo, singaqhubeka nencoko nabantu abantliziyo zilukhuni nabangenangqiqo yokulungiselela abanye abaphulaphuleyo kwaye babone macala omabini engxoxo. Nangona kunjalo, silithobela njani ingcebiso kaPawulos yokuphepha iingxoxo zobudenge nokungazi? Zithini iingcinga zakho ngaloo nto?
Ke nina ze kungabizwa kuthiwe 'Rabhi,' kuba kusenjalo Mnye uMfundisi, nani nonke ningabazalwana. ” NIV
Andiyiqondi inqaku lakho.
NguKristu kuphela onguTitshala wam.
Ndiyayifumana loo nto, kodwa yeyiphi inqaku elihambelana nesihloko ekuxoxwa ngaso? Besixoxa ngendlela yokuphatha amagqabantshintshi anokuwela ngaphaya kwento uPawulos ayibiza ngokuba "yimibuzo ebubudenge nengaziwayo".
Kuba ukuba uKristu akazange ayifundise andiyilandeli.
Ngaba oku akufundiswa nguKristu?
Yonke into engahambanga kakuhle ngeenkolo zamaKristu inxulumene nokushiya kwabo iimfundiso zikaKristu.
Ukuthanda ummelwane, ukuthanda umzalwana, akubangeli ukungatyi nendoda leyo. Into uYesu akazange ayenze.
UYesu wahlala etafileni kunye neentshaba zakhe.
Masilandele uNyana kaThixo!
Ngaba ndilungile ke ngoku ukuqonda ukuba awuwamkeli amazwi kaPawulos, ngenxa yokuba angaveli ngqo kuYesu?
Xa uPawulos ephikisana noKristu ndilandela uKristu.
Khange ndiqonde ukuba awuzamkeli zonke iZibhalo. UPawulos uphikisana phi noKristu?
UKristu akazange afundise ukuba masingatyi nabazalwana abonayo.
“Ke kaloku ndinibhalela into yokuba ningadibani naye nabani na othi ungumzalwana okanye udade kodwa oziphethe kakubi ngokwesini okanye obawayo, okhonza izithixo okanye umnyelisi, inxila okanye umphangi. Ungaze utye nokutya nabantu abanjalo. ” NIV
UYesu watya naboni.
UKrestu mhle ngoko nangoku.
Masingabeki bucala.
Siyayigcina ingqibelelo yethu kodwa asibakhupheli ngaphandle abanye abantu.
Ukuze ambone uKristu eze kuye ..
Ngokwenyani, ndisandula ukudubula ividiyo ngalo mbandela. Ndizoyishiya le ngxoxo ide iphume kwaye ungandixelela ukuba uyavuma okanye awuvumi. Nangona kunjalo, andivumelani nokwala iinxalenye ezithile zeBhayibhile. UPawulos wathunywa nguYesu njengoYohane. Amagama kaYesu owathandayo kakhulu awabhalwanga nguYesu, kodwa ngamadoda amane, omnye wawo nguYohane, noJohn nabo bafumana isityhilelo kuYesu, kwaye uYohane usixelela ukuba singabinanto yakwenza nomntu ozisa imfundiso eyahlukileyo. 2 Yohane 7-11, ke ngokuqinisekileyo asizukukhetha.... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiyazihlonipha izimvo nezimvo zakho.
Jack
Kwaye ndingowakho, ewe.
Ndiyaqonda.
Yanga lonke ithemba lakho kuKristu lingazaliseka.
Jack
Ukondla amahlwempu, ukunceda abo bangenamakhaya, ukukhuthaza abalahlekileyo nabatyhafileyo, ukunika isandla kwabo bahlelelekileyo nakwabo bahlelelekileyo.
Le yimbopheleleko yethu yobuKristu ukongeza ekusasazeni iindaba ezilungileyo.
Ngokuqinisekileyo kuyinxalenye yayo, kodwa uxanduva lwethu kukuthobela uThixo, nokuba sikufumanisa kuyinto engavumelaniyo ukuyenza. Ngaba awuvumi?
Akunjalo!
Ngaba ikhona indawo apha yomntu olandela uKrestu eyedwa?
Andifuni ukuzisa ukungavisisani.
Molo Jack, wenza amanqaku amahle, kodwa bendingacebisi ukuba i-JA inqunyulwe. U-Yesu wayesazi xa ilixesha lokuba "athi cwaka" Mat. 26: 63 kwaye u-Eric wayethetha ukuba, akufuneki azive isidingo sokuphendula kwimiceli mngeni eqhubekayo kunye nokufunyanwa kuka-JA, nanjengoko noYesu wafikelela kumda wakhe nabaFarisi! Kwelinye icala u-JA kufuneka asebenzise eyoku-1 kaPetros 3:15 xa ebuzwa malunga neenkolelo zakhe eziphendula “ngomoya wobulali nentlonipho enzulu” Ukuya kuthi ga ngokwenza uthelekiso olungacacanga neMboniselo, akukho nanye, njengoko sonke silwazi olu hlobo luvulekileyo incoko iya kuthi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kukho into eyaziwa njenge-Internet Troll. Ngokusisiseko, abanye abantu basebenzisa ukungaziwa kwe-Intanethi njengemfama ekuthetheni izinto abanokungazitsho kwindawo engaziwayo. Okona kubi kakhulu, oku kunokuphazamisa kwaye kude kukhokelele kubantu abashiye bezothekile. Ukuqala kwam ukuthumela apha, bekukho umntu ozimisele ukuba "alungise" yonke into endiyithethileyo. Khange ndiphendule, sesona sisombululo sisiso sokunyathela. Malunga nokuba ngubani troll, lo ngumbuzo ovulekileyo. Xa umntu etrola inokuba ligorha lenye indoda. Yinto thina... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo Eric. Ndicinga ukuba umxholo wexesha okanye ukungabikho kwexesha yinto enzima kakhulu kuninzi lokuyiqonda. Ndiyasokola nayo, kwaye andiyifumani nayo. Inokuba kulapho u-JA evela khona. Ngelixa ulingelo lwenziwe ukubonisa ubungqina, ndicinga ukuba le yingcamango enzima kakhulu, njengokuba ukubona kwikamva ikwangumbono, endikholelwa ukuba awunakwenzeka. Ewe, ukuba unokuhamba ngokukhawuleza kunesantya sokukhanya, unganakho ukwenza uvavanyo lokungqina ukuba ndiyaphazama, kodwa ndingathanda... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo Eric, do ucinga ukuba mhlawumbi sinyanzelisa oku ngandlel 'ithile, ngendlela endibona ngayo yeyokuba eyokuqala neyokugqibela ithetha nje ingunaphakade, uThixo unaphakade, akukho namnye phambi ko "kuqala" kwaye akukho namnye emva kokugqibela. Masingalibali ukuba uYesu unesihloko esifanayo-IsiTy. 1:17
Ndiyavuma ukuba bobabini uYise noNyana banaphakade. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba siyiqonde ukuba ingasebenza njani loo nto, kodwa kwi-nerds phakathi kwethu (enetyala), kuhlala kumnandi ukuzama.
Ubonakala uphoswa yingongoma ebalulekileyo; ixesha kunye nendawo zezinto ezibonakalayo. Thina, sikuloo ndawo ngokwethu, sibotshelelwe nguloo mmandla, kokubini kwisakhono sethu sokuchaphazela utshintsho nakwimeko yethu yokuqonda. Iziganeko zangaphambi komzuzu xa uThixo wayedala indalo iphela ayinakulinganiswa ngemigangatho yendalo iphela. iyavakala into yokuba bekukho iziganeko ngaphambi koko, kodwa ezi zingaphandle kwendawo yethu kwaye zingaphaya kwento esinokuyiqonda. Oososayensi abafunda nge-cosmology bathi bayakwazi ukulandelela iziganeko ukuya kwinqanaba... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Into endiyithumele ekuqaleni ibingeyonto iphuma kum kodwa ikhutshiwe. Imathiriyeli inde kakhulu kunale ndiyikhuphelileyo kwaye ndiyithumele apha. Kubonakala ndizakuzama ukuyifumana ibe luxwebhu kwaye ndiyithumele nge-imeyile.
Injongo yam yokuthumela imathiriyeli kukubona ukuba okuqulathwe kuloo nto kuya kujongwana nayo ngokuchanekileyo njengoko kuthotho lwamanqaku luqhubeka. Ndiyakholelwa kwimibuzo enokuphakanyiswa ngokunjalo ekuhambeni kolu luhlu iya kufakwa kumbandela.
Ixesha kunye neZithuba zeMeko yoMhlaba. Siyalazi ixesha njengesithuba esiphakathi kweziganeko ezibini. Inokuba ziziganeko zokwehla kweathom ye-cesium, esisiseko seewotshi ezininzi zeatom, okanye ukubalwa kwemini enkulu kwindawo ethile, njengoko ibisetyenziswa kwimbali yoluntu. Nokuba yeyiphi imilinganiselo ngokuchasene nomgangatho womzimba. Yonke into, kunye nayo yonke indawo engenanto phakathi komcimbi, yimilinganiselo yommandla obonakalayo. Ngaphandle kwendawo ebonakalayo, sinolwazi olungenanto. Akukho ndlela yokugqitha kwimida yoluvo lwethu, kuba ezi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
(IGenesis 1: 1). . Ekuqalekeni uThixo wadala amazulu nehlabathi. (IGenesis 1: 5). . Kwahlwa, kwasa; yangumhla wokuqala. . . (Genesis 1:14). . Waza uThixo wahlabela mgama wathi: “Makubekho izikhanyiso esibhakabhakeni samazulu ukuba zahlule imini nobusuku; kwaye kufuneka zisebenze njengemiqondiso kunye namaxesha onyaka kunye neentsuku neminyaka Ixesha ngokwalo alililo iqumrhu elizihambelayo. Ngumlinganiselo phakathi komsitho nomnye kwindalo ebonakalayo. Kulapha kuphela... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kuthethwe kakuhle.
UMerci Jack
Raisonnement elula, logique et surtout biblique.
Akukho mfuneko yokufumana ulwazi malunga ne-Dieu que nous ne maîtrisons pas. Même la science nest pas une preuve. Elle a parfois changé de izigqibo ezigqityiweyo kwi-nouvelles découvertes.
Hayi, akukho sibhalo, kodwa ixesha kunye nendawo yindawo yommandla wezinto, kwaye uThixo ungowomoya womoya. Ukuba nguMdali kunye nomsunguli wezinto ezibonakalayo, Ngokwenkcazo, akayonxalenye yommandla wezinto ezibonakalayo.
Ngokuchanekileyo, uChet.
Kwaye uThixo uzimele geqe kuba wenza ixesha njengenxalenye yendalo yonke:
Zonke izinto zenziwa nguye; ngaphandle kwakhe akubangakho nto idaliweyo. (UYohane 1: 3). Zonke izinto-nazo zonke izinto ezibonakalayo, kubandakanya ixesha.
Ixesha, umba, indawo kunye namandla zinxibelelene ngokungenakulinganiswa (Ithiyori ka-Einstein yoBudlelwane). Le ithiyori ingqinwe kakuhle (njengoko uEric ephawulileyo) Ngaphandle kwale ithiyori akunakwenzeka ukumilisela isithuba esinjenge-Voyager okanye ezinye ukuya ngqo kwiiplanethi. Yiyo loo nto ndicinga ukuba siyifumene le vesi- Yohane 1: 3.
Ndiyabuza nje,
Uyakholelwa ukuba uThixo uhlala esithubeni njengoko sihlala kwisithuba? Indawo ebonakalayo? Okanye indawo yomoya?
Ukuba indawo yomoya ndingavuma. Ukuba kunjalo, ungasichaza njani esi sithuba somoya? Ngaba isikelwe umda? Ngaba ukuzalisa okungenamda konke?
Ngaba ichanekile? Ngaba lizulu?
Ngokumalunga namabinzana athile kwi-KJV engezantsi-ndiyakonwabela ngamaxesha athile ukufunda i-KJV, kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba ibhalwe kakuhle kwezinye iindlela. Kodwa zininzi izinto ekufuneka ziqwalaselwe xa kufikwa kufundo ngelensi yencazelo. Okokuqala, ukuba ufunda ingxelo endala, i-KJV yeyakudala, akulula ukuyiqonda. Ewe, ezinye iinguqulelo zale mihla ziphucule kakhulu ukukwazi komntu ukuqonda umbhalo. Kodwa ukuba ufunda ingxelo yakudala, amagama anje (ngaphandle kwezicatshulwa): intethe, ikota, amathumba, amatye ekalika, ii-assupim zimbalwa kumawaka ezinto zakudala... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UYEHOVA WEMikhosi? Ibhendi yendoda enye okanye inxalenye yeVangeli Trio?
INkosi yenkampani yomkhosi ithi: Kuphela esihogweni, apho siya kwazi. ULuka 16:17
IHayidesi, uthixo wamaGrike osuka ngasemva, wayengenakukhanyisa umdlalo esihogweni.
Ngokomfundi uYesu Krestu wayethanda. ULuka 16: 23-26 KJV
“Kulumkele oko ukufundayo
Umthetho ugunyaziswe ngeTayitile ibe nye kuphela. ”
Iintsikelelo kubo bonke abalapha ngala maxesha eendaba ezingezizo kunye nenyaniso efihlakeleyo. Nceda umamele uMalusi oyinyaniso onguYesu Krestu.
Iindumiso
KULUNGILE ndiphumle ityala lam kwizimvo zam kwiintsuku ezi-3 ezidlulileyo
“Akuzange nanini na umbandela uthwaxe ubunye bamaKristu njengoBathathu Emnye!
Uninzi luye lwachitha iiyure ezininzi luzama ukweyisela abanye kwelokuba elinye icala lichanile ukususela ngenkulungwane yesithathu. ”
Ngaba ukho umntu oqinisekileyo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku ukutshintsha inkolelo yakhe kuBathathu Emnye? ndicela uphakamise isandla!
Inqaku elikhulu lika-Eric nangona, alinakulinda isavenge sesibini, ndiyilungiselele ipopcorn yam!
️✌️ ♥ ️
Butted, ndiyathemba. Ewe.
Lol Eric ndicinga ukuba umntu akayithandi i-popcorn ene-buttered unayo i-minus
Kwimeko apho uphoswe luvo lwam kuLeonardo Eric, ungacacisa ukuba uthetha ukuthini ngokubhekisa kuYesu njengoThixo? Yishiyele eyokugqibela ukuba uzimisele ukuyenza kwintetho elandelayo. Kuyinyani ukuba inokuba nomanyano owahlukileyo wabantu abaneemvelaphi ezahlukeneyo kunye nokuchasana nezinto ezahlukeneyo zokufunda.
Uthando kubo bonke ukusuka kwiAlithia.
Iingcaphulo ezininzi ezinomdla ezivela kuApolo. Ngokwe-ignoremus njengam, ngaba singacacisa ukuba ulwimi olusetyenziswe kwizicatshulwa ezahlukeneyo luvumela "uThixo" kunokuba "nguThixo"? Ngaba uThixo kufuneka abe nguThixo usomandla? Oku kubonakala kuyingcambu yokudideka. UYesu ngokwakhe wacaphula iNdumiso 82; 6 “nina nonke ningoothixo”. Ukuba ndibhekisa kuThixo, mna nawe siyazi ukuba ndithetha umdali, okanye uYehova. Ngaba kunokwenzeka ukuba le ngxoxo imalunga nokungaqondi kokubini ebhalwe eBhayibhileni kwaye yayiyintoni injongo yala maKristu okuqala... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiza okwesibini uluvo lwakho uLeo angacacisa uEric ukuba uthetha ukuthini xa ebhekisa kuYesu njengoThixo ???
Siyazi ukuba iingelosi zamndwendwela uAbraham kuba amaHebhere, kwizahluko zawo zokuqala, acacisa ukuba bekunjalo. Ukanti xa kufundwa le ngxelo, enye yeengelosi (okanye enye yala madoda) kubhekiswa kuyo njengoYehova, ngokungathi uYehova ngokwakhe wayemi phambi kuka-Abraham. Akukho namnye wakha wambona uThixo; Ke ndiyazi ukuba yayiyingelosi eyayisebenza njengesithethi sikaThixo. Ngokwenkcubeko yethu mhlawumbi asinakuze senze ireferensi okanye ukuthethelela okunjalo, kodwa kumHebhere ngelo xesha owawamkeleka ngokugqibeleleyo. Ukuba bendinokuthetha nawe ngefowuni sixelele... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukuba uthetha ukuthini 'njengommeli kaThixo' kwaye umi endaweni kaThixo ndingavuma nawe kule nto. Olu luvo lokumelwa luqondwa kakuhle kunxibelelwano lwesiHebra kokubhaliweyo nokubhaliweyo. Kukho umzekelo apho kubonakala ngathi inkokeli yezomkhosi icela uYesu ukuba eze aphilise isicaka sakhe kunye neakhawunti efanayo apho ingabadala abangamaYuda abaza bacela uYesu ukuba aye kwisicaka sakhe esigulayo simphilise. Akukho nto iphikisanayo apha njengoko abadala baya kuYesu 'njengabameli' be... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Eric, ndakhuliswa njengomRoma Katolika, kwaye ubathathu emnye wayehlala ebonakaliswa njengemfihlakalo. Kwakungekho ngqiqweni. Ngelixa uYesu engenguye uThixo ngaphezu kokuba iingelosi zazinguYehova, njengoko sele utshilo, andinangxaki ngeevesi kwi-NT ezisebenzisa isihloko, uThixo. Kubonakala kum ukuba ababhali bamamkela uYesu njengonyana kaThixo, ke babonisa imbeko ngokubhekisa kwizinto azenzileyo njengezivela kuThixo. Kulula njengokuba ndinokubeka. Kodwa ayimisi uYesu ukuba abizwe njengo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Iyavakala kakhulu. "Ngelixa uYesu engenguye uThixo ngaphezu kokuba iingelosi zazinguYehova, njengoko utshilo, andinangxaki ngeevesi kwi-NT ezisebenzisa isihloko esithi, Thixo. Kubonakala kum ukuba xa ababhali bevuma ukuba uYesu ngunyana kaThixo, babonisa nje ukuba bayamhlonela xa bethetha ngezinto azenzileyo njengezivela kuThixo. ” Ngokwenene yonke into ekhoyo yabakho ngenxa kaThixo uSomandla. Ukuba ndisele amanzi, nokuba yinto elula leyo sisipho sikaThixo, ukuba sibuyela kwimithombo yokugqibela. Ngu... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ngokuqinisekileyo uLeonardo, kwaye ndiyabulela ngale mizekelo mihle. Baza kundikhonza kakuhle ekuphenduleni i-pro-Trinity izimvo endizifumana kwisiteshi se-YouTube.
Kuyavunywa, kwaye yayiyinqaku elenziwa nguPenton kwividiyo. UJohn 1: 1 unokufundwa ngokwegrama ngokuthi "uLizwi wayenguthixo" okanye "uLizwi wayenguthixo". Nawuphi na umntu onengqiqo onolwazi ngegrama yesiGrike kuya kufuneka avume ukuba intsingiselo ikhona, kwaye ke le ndinyana ayinakusetyenziswa ukungqina umbono, u-Arian okanye uZiqu-zintathu.
UKristu ucaphula u-Isaya 44: 6 amaxesha amaninzi kwisiTyhilelo… "Ndingowokuqala nowokuGqibela…"… kwaye kwesi sibhalo ku-Isaya, ngu-Yahweh othethayo…
UYehovah ungowokuqala nowokugqibela kwaye uYesu ungowokuqala nowokugqibela. Kulungile ngokwaneleyo, kodwa eyokuqala neyokugqibela yintoni?
Nantso ingxam yomcimbi. Asinalo ulwazi olwaneleyo lokudlula koko kubhaliweyo. Kwiingxoxo ezithile, ndiye ndaziwa ukuba ndikhwaza u "37", ethi ibangele ukuba kungabikho nto, kwangoko. Emva koko ndiyacacisa, i-37 linani eliqinisekileyo leengelosi ezinokudanisa entlokweni yesikhonkwane. Ngu-37, kwaye ndiyazi ukuba iyinyani. Inqaku lam kukuba iingxoxo zinokuntywila kwiminutiae engenantsingiselo. Kuhlala kukho "ewe, kodwa" enokongezwa kunye nomnye umngxuma womvundla onokujongwa kubunzulu obukhulu, kodwa oku kufezekisa ntoni? Inyaniso,... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kum, ingozi ngemfundiso kaBathathu Emnye kukuba iyayitshintsha imbono katata. Yonke into imalunga nokubuyiselwa kobudlelwane bosapho obabulahlekile xa uAdam wona. UMtyholi ufuna ukuba le nto isilele. Nantoni na egqwetha ubudlelwane bethu notata inako ukulujongela phantsi usindiso lwethu. Kwizigidi zamaKristu athi uZiqu-zintathu yimfundiso yabo echazayo- kwaye masingabenzi mathambo ngayo, bakholelwa ukuba le yimfundiso enye echaza amaKristu okwenyani- bayakholelwa ukuba uYesu nguThixo. Kodwa uYesu usixelela ukuba indlela eya... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kuthethwe kakuhle.
Ulwimi lukaBathathu Emnye lugqunywe ngejogg engahambelaniyo namava okwenyani ehlabathi. Ininzi yayo indibetha njengentetho ephindiweyo.
Oo… ndiyayithanda ingxoxo mpikiswano…! Yeyona nto ndiyikhumbula kakhulu…! Kwaye ayonto imnandi ukukhululeka kwingxoxo-mpikiswano, bazalwana noodade wethu… ?! Ke… nantsi into endiyithathayo kuyo yonke i-shebang… (nokuba iyinyani na… i-methinks ayisiyiyo nayiphi na indoda ethatha isigqibo ngam… kuba ngamava am kunye nonxibelelwano neNkosi olwenza ukholo lwam ... kodwa ezi ziyimfihlo… kwaye ngamanye amaxesha, ndingenakuyichaza…) Ndiqale ukufunda iSityhilelo okwethutyana emva… kodwa besindidika kakhulu, kuye kwafuneka ndiyeke… (mhlawumbi ngenxa yokuba ndizabalaza ndibeka ecaleni ingqiqo yam…) kodwa... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Nangona kunjalo, isicatshulwa esiphefumlelweyo asisebenzisi amagama onke, onamandla onke. Zonke ezi zinto zithethwa ngabantu ngoThixo, uMdali, hayi izinto uThixo uMdali abone kufanelekile ukuba zithethwe ngaye. UPaul wathetha kakuhle kweyoku-1 kwabaseKorinte 4: 6 “Ndizisebenzisile zonke ezi zinto kum nakuApollo ukuze kulungelwe nina, bazalwana, ukuze nifunde kuthi, ukuba ningadluli ngaphezu koko kubhaliweyo, ukuze kungabikho namnye kuni okhukhumeleyo. “Kwiminyaka eyadlulayo, kuye kwafuneka ndicinge ngokuthatha isicatshulwa somzimba, njengenxalenye yonyango.... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UChet uthe,
“Ukanti, isibhalo esiphefumlelweyo asisebenzisi magama athi ungusomandla, okho kuyo yonke indawo okanye onolwazi ngezinto zonke. Zonke ezi zinto zithethwa ngabantu ngoThixo, uMdali, hayi izinto uThixo uMdali abone kufanelekile ukuba zithethwe ngaye. ”
Molweni,
Kwinguqulelo egunyazisiweyo yeBhayibhile kwiRev 19: 6 KJV ngokuqinisekileyo iyalisebenzisa igama elithi "onamandla onke".
Kwaye ezinye iinguqulelo azinjalo. Bubuphi ubungqina obukhoyo bokuba uKing James unegunya ngeendlela ezinye iinguqulelo ezingenjalo? Eyona nto iphambili kwiinguqulelo zesiNgesi ayilisebenzisi elo gama kwaye isebenzise uSomandla.
Ubungqina endibunikiweyo buphakathi kweSibhalo ngokwaso. Uthi:" Eyona ndlela iphambili yokuguqulela isiNgesi ayilisebenzisi eli gama kodwa isebenzisa uSomandla. ”
Kuyinyani kuzo zonke iinguqulelo ezingagunyaziswanga. Ngenxa yoku wonke umntu kufuneka atolike iBhayibhile ngamazwi akhe. Uthi awusoze ube lixhoba lokubanjwa ngamadoda ngokungathi kunjalo. Kodwa ayisiyiyo kanye le uyenzayo xa usebenzisa iinguqulelo ezininzi ezivela ebantwini kwaye ushiye iGunya.
Ngaba ayisosizathu sokuba uSathana anguye? Ngokungahloniphi iGunya.
Ndumisobee, I-Rom 13: 1
Ndumiso, yintoni isiseko sakho sokubanga ukuba i-KJV "inegunya", ngelixa abanye bengengabo?
Molo Meleti, Isiseko sam ekuphela kwaso iya kuba sesoMoya oyiNgcwele kaKrestu, amanzi aKhe asindisa ubomi kunye neGazi lakhe elaphalazwa ngentlawulelo emnqamlezweni. (1Joh 5: 8 NWT) Ndixelele, ucinga ukuba ndazalwa phantsi komqondiso ombi kunye nenyanga eluhlaza emehlweni am, okanye ngaba yayiyiBhayibhile eluhlaza eyayithwele icala? Ukuzama kunye nokunyaniseka kuye kwaba ngamava am kunye ne-KJV. Ugunyazisiwe yiNkosana yaseNgilani kwaye akukagqitywa. (inxaxheba edlulileyo) Ngaphandle kwezinye iziselo zewayini ezinxiliswe yiwayini yehenyukazi, andiboni mntu okanye uMongami ozama ukuthatha... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ke isigunyaziso sikaKing James waseNgilani sigubungela wonke umntu? Ucinga ukuba uyazi ukusebenza komoya oyingcwele okanye ngumoya kaKristu ukuze ukwazi ukuthi zeziphi iinguqulelo zebhayibhile ezigunyazisiweyo nezingavumelekanga?
Wamkelekile kuluvo lwakho, ewe.
Ndizoyishiya nje okwangoku.
Meleti, (Imiz. 14:12 NWT)
Ndiyayikholelwa ibhayibhile, kuba izichazile izinto ezizalisekileyo. Ndiyayikholelwa kuba izinto ezibhalwe eBhayibhileni, kumawakawaka eminyaka eyadlulayo azibambile kwiminyaka engaphezulu. Ukuba ibhayibhile yayiphefumlelwe nguThixo, endikholelwa kuyo, ingavakala into yokuba uyakuligcina ilizwi lakhe. Ngelixa iinguqulelo ezahlukeneyo zingavumelani kwindinyana nganye, imisebenzi edibeneyo yokunceda ukugcina intsingiselo yentsusa. Ngezixhobo ezinjengeBhayibhile Hub, kube lula kakhulu ukuphanda kunye nokuthelekisa iinguqulelo. Mhlawumbi eli lilungiselelo elivela kuMdali wethu. Inye into eqinisekileyo, kum... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ugunyaziswe ngubani? Ngaphandle kokuba kugunyaziswe nguYehovah okanye nguYesu, oko kunciphisa ukuba luvo lomntu othile okanye amaqela abantu. Kwimeko apho, andichukumiseki.
Isihloko esinomdla, kodwa i-IMO imathiriyeli ibuyela umva ekwakheni laa mashiza asetyenziswa zii-JWs ukuzama nokubonisa ukuba umbono wobuninimzi wavela kwiinkulungwane emva kukaKristu nabapostile. Uninzi lwayo alunanyani. Ngaphandle kobungqina obunamandla obunikwe nguJohn kunye nabanye ababhali beBhayibhile, kukho ubungqina obuninzi bembali yesandla yeChristology ephezulu yecawa yokuqala. Ngetyala ku-https: //www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2018/03/extremely-early-testimonies-to-the-deity-of-christ/ nayi eminye imizekelo ephambili: IPolycarp (AD 69-155) Wayengubhishophu ecaweni yaseSmirna kwaye wayengumfundi kaJohane uMpostile. Kwileta yakhe eya kwabaseFilipi, ubhala ngoku... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ubhale:
"Umxholo onomdla, kodwa i-IMO imathiriyeli ibuyela ekwakheni laa mashiza asetyenziswa zii-JWs ukuzama nokubonisa ukuba umbono wobungqongqo wavela kwiinkulungwane emva kukaKristu nabapostile."
Andicacanga ukuba ithini impikiswano yeStrawman. Ngaba unokucacisa ngakumbi?
IBhunga laseNicene alizange livele ngesiquphe. Kwakungekho sithuba. Kufanele ukuba bekukho ukungaqondani kunye neenkolelo eziphosakeleyo, uxinzelelo lwezopolitiko kunye nezinye izizathu zokuba kubizwe eli bhunga. Enye into ebalulekileyo abaninzi abangayiqondiyo kukuba ulawulo kunye nokulawulwa kweZibhalo kwaxutywa kumaKristu angamaYuda akholwayo ayenombono ochanekileyo, kwaye emva koko waqhutywa ngabantu beeNtlanga ababefundiswe kwifilosofi yamaGrike. Isenokuba sisizathu sokuba kutheni abaninzi nangona behlala kufutshane nexesha le... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ngokuchanekileyo! Ndikhe ndazibonela indlela abantu abanokukwenza ngayo ukujongela phantsi iimfundiso zeBhayibhile. Kungenxa yokuba umntu ephumelele isihloko esenziwe ngumntu, ayiniki mntu ukuba andinagunya lingaphezulu kwelomnye umntu. Kubonakala kum ukuba uMbutho weJW uwile kakhulu, njengoko ndibhala oku. Ndiva imfesane enkulu kubantu abangaphakathi abanokuzifumana bekwimeko yokudideka, kodwa andizisoli ngakubantu abakwizikhundla zobunkokheli abaye baziphilisa ngokuthenjwa kunye nokupha kwabathembekileyo. Kodwa le meko yahlukile; iicawa ezininzi eziphambili zibonakala ngathi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukujonga phambili kwiindawo ezizayo zale ncoko. Igama elithi henotheistic lalilitsha kum, kwaye ndacinga ukuba ndiyivile yonke into xa kufikwa kwingxoxo ngoBathathu Emnye. Ndiyayixabisa intetho ka-Alithia malunga "nengcaciso ecacileyo ebhayibhile yenye into, ngelixa ukutolikwa komntu kuyinto eyahlukileyo" kukuzithoba. Ndiyavuma. Ewe ndiyavuma nabanye abathi nasiphi na isibheno kwisibhalo sisibheno kutoliko lomntu kwisibhalo. Kwaye oku kunokuba, ngokungacwangciswanga, kungazenza igunya elingaphezulu kwesibhalo ngokwaso. (Ukuba ndingenisa kuphela xa ndivuma, lowo ndinikezela kuye... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Xa uThixo wavelisa abaprofeti, ukuxhaswa kwakhe ngabo kwabonakaliswa kuqala ngeziprofeto zabo zizaliseka. Kodwa kumatyeli aliqela, apho ixesha lalinento, Wanika imiqondiso ebonisa ukuba aba baprofeti baxhaswa ngamandla angaphezu kwendalo. Ke, xa uMoses wanikwa umsebenzi wokukhulula inzala yamaSirayeli eYiphutha, amaSirayeli ayesazi ngeZibetho Ezilishumi, kwaye ayazi ukuba angaxhomekeka kuMoses. Xa bexinzwe phantsi kunye nomkhosi wase-Egypt ukuvala, wenza ummangaliso onamandla ukubalungiselela ukubaleka. Wayengenguye umhlekisi obonakalise patter enomdla kwaye... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiyavumelana noChet koku. Kufuneka sikhumbule ukuba igama icawe lisetyenziselwa ukutolika igama lesiGrike elithi ekklésia elithetha "ibandla, indibano" kwaye lithetha abo "babiziweyo". Ayizange yenzelwe ukubhekisa kumzimba oququzelelweyo njengeCawa yamaKatolika, icawa kaMormon, okanye iBandla laseNgilani. Umzimba kaKristu ubhekisa kwabo babiziweyo (ekklésia) kwihlabathi ukuba babe ngabantwana bakaThixo. Nangona kunjalo, kule mihla xa usithi "icawe" ubhekisa nakweyiphi na inkokheli okanye ulawulo lwabefundisi olulawula elo qela lenkolo. Nini... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Meleti noChet, ndiyazibulela zombini izimvo zakho kwaye ndiyavumelana nezinto ezininzi ozithethayo. Ndiyavuma ngentliziyo yam yonke ukuba uMoya oyiNgcwele uyasebenza ngaphandle kwecawa yamaKatolika. Kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba amaKristu angengomaKatolika anokuninzi anokukufundisa umndilili ongum Katolika malunga nokufunda izibhalo kunye nokwakha ubudlelwane noThixo. Ndivuma ngokulula ukuba icawa iwasebenzisile amandla ayo (on and off) ukutyhubela iinkulungwane. UJoan waseArc ngumzekelo owaziwayo, kwaye namhlanje uzukisiwe njengengcwele. Ke xa ndithetha ngegunya, ndibona umohluko omkhulu phakathi koMoya oyiNgcwele... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UYesu uthetha ngoYise kunye noBawo wethu ovela ezulwini kancinci eBhayibhileni. Uthi "ukuba undibonile wena umbonile uBawo", "ukuba uyandazi ungatsho njani ukuba awumazi uBawo"? Ibhayibhile isixelela ngokuchanekileyo ukuba ngubani uBawo kaYesu waseZulwini. Mat 1:18 thelekisa amanqaku kaGqirha kuLuka 1:35. Ingelosi yeNkosi okanye iNgelosi yeNkosi kuMat 1: 20 ayikaze iguqulwe, akukho siNgesi ngqo. Ke ukuba ufuna ukusebenzisa u-Y okanye u-J okanye u-H okanye u-W okanye u-V kuyo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Xa ujongene noBathathu Emnye, imicimbi embalwa kufuneka isingathwe. U-John 1: 1, ngokoluvo lwam, bambalwa. Umbuzo oyintloko ngulo: Ngaba kufanelekile ukuba uYesu anqulwe? Matt 4:10 (ESV): "Aze athi uYesu kuye, Hamba uhambe, Sathana; Kuba kubhaliwe kwathiwa, 'Wothi unqule iNkosi uThixo wakho, ukhonze yena yedwa.' ”Ke, unoYesu athi khonza kuphela uThixo. I-Unitarians ithi: "Nantso ke. Awunakho ukukhonza okanye ukukhonza uYesu. ” Kodwa ngaba ziyavumelana ezi zibhalo? Kuthekani ngoDaniel 7: 13,14? Ndabona emibonweni yasebusuku, nanko, ngamafu ezulu apho... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Igama elithi utata lithetha umntu osindisa ubomi. Ke ukuba u-Yesu ubizwa ngokuba ngutata kanaphakade ayisiyonto ingaqhelekanga njengo-1 Kor. I-15: 45 ithi:
Ngokunjalo kubhaliwe kwathiwa, Owokuqala umntu uAdam waba ngumphefumlo odla ubomi; owokugqibela uAdam waba ngumoya odlisa ubomi. UMOYA OBONELAYO.
UYesu ukwanguMlamli wekumkani yethu okanye uPhakamileyo. Umlamli omkhulu phakathi kwabantu ababini, umntu othandazayo NOTHIXO athandaza ngaye ngoYesu.
uthando
UMariya ?
Enye ingcinga yokuba uYesu ungumniki wobomi iya kuba yinto yokuba intlawulelo inike uluntu oko uAdam angakwazanga kudlulisela kwinzala yakhe. UAdam wayengutata wokwenyama wabo bonke abantu, kodwa wadlula ebomini engafezekanga onesiphumo sokufa. UYesu wadlula nethuba lokufumana kwakhona oko uAdam wakuphosileyo. Ngale ngqondo, ngokuqinisekileyo unokubhekiswa kuye njengoBawo ongunaPhakade. Naxa ukubuyisela kugqityiwe, uYesu ngonaphakade uya kuba ngumniki wobomi kuluntu.
@Chet
Uyayiqonda into endizama ukuyithetha. UYesu ngutata wethu ongunaphakade, kodwa akanguye uABBA wethu. Ndiyakholelwa kuThixo wethu nakuYesu uNyana kaThixo.
UYesu wathi wayengenakwenza nto engakhange ayibone kuqala kuYise.
Ngaphambi kokuba afe wathandaza elila kuYise kwaye wathuthuzelwa yingelosi.
UYoshuwa wathi kumaSirayeli: Yivani uThixo wenu.
Abahedeni bakholelwa kwiitriniti, njenge-hindugods.
UMariya ?
Molo Chet. Izimvo ezilungileyo. Makhe ndibonise uphawu olubalulekileyo lukaYesu. UYesu (uLizwi) ungutata ongunaphakade. NjengoNyana kaThixo, wayenomgangatho owahlukileyo kuYise-Unobomi kuye! Kungoko engunaphakade, kungoko ke enako ukunika ubomi: “Inene, inene, ndithi kuni, kuza ilixa, nangoku selikho, xa abafileyo baya kuliva izwi loNyana kaThixo, nabo balivayo Uya kuphila. Kuba njengokuba uYise enabo ubomi kuye ngokwakhe, ngokunjalo wamnika noNyana ukuba abe nobomi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiyayixabisa indlela oziva ngayo ngalo mbandela. Nangona kunjalo, siza kushiya ukhetho lokuvota phezulu.
Enkosi, uhamba_uzolile. Ndijonge ezi ndinyana zintathu zichaza noYesu ngokunjalo. (Gal 1: 1; Efe 6: 23; Phil 2: 11) Ingcinga enomdla yeza kum njengesiphumo. Kutheni le nto uPawulos nabanye ababhali beBhayibhile ngebengazange bathi "Thixo unyana", okanye "uthixo wethu, uYesu Kristu" endaweni yeNkosi yethu uYesu Kristu? Ndiyathetha, yeyiphi indlela entle yokubonisa inyani ukuba uYesu ujongwa ngabo njengoThixo olingana noYehovah, kutheni ungasixeleli nje? Babengekho ekufihleni inyaniso, kodwa babengabaphathi bokukhanya.
Ewe, Eric, ndicinge into enye. Mhlawumbi lo usemqondweni wam, ndihlala ndisiva ukuba "uThixo uBawo" yinxalenye yoBathathu Emnye. IsiGrike ngokwenyani sifunda uThixo uYise (Theos Patros) ngaphandle kwenqaku elichazayo. Andiyazi igrama yesiGrike kakuhle, kodwa kubonakala ngathi kufanele ukuba yiTheou ho Patros okanye mhlawumbi uTheou Patros, kodwa akukho ndawo ingafumaneka kuyo. Ngaba inokuguqulelwa ngokulula nje "nguBawo, uThixo" okanye nguBawo uThixo. Mhlawumbi, njengoko benditshilo, andisazi isiGrike siza kwanela nakwezinye izibhengezo apha kwaphela. Mna nam... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndicinga ukuba yinqaku elungileyo leyo. Kukho incwadi enesihloko esithi Xa UYesu Waba NguThixo, egubungela ngembali yamabhunga eecawe ahlukeneyo awayehamba ngapha nangapha ngalo mbandela. Kwakungekho nto isikiweyo neyomileyo malunga nayo kwaye kwabakho iyantlukwano phakathi kwe-Mpuma ne-Western Church malunga nalo mbandela. Imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye, njengoko yamkelwayo, yayingumba wezopolitiko. Abantu bagxothwa kwelinye iqela, emva koko bamkelwa lelinye iqela kwaye bamenywa ukuba benze umthendeleko kunye nabo. Oku kwakuyipolitiki kwinqanaba leCawa, kunye nezopolitiko kurhulumente... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
I-voudrais préciser que je ne crois pas en la Trinité kunye ne fais bien la umahluko entre YHWH et son fils. Néanmoins je voudrais rappeler les paroles de Jean 20: 27-28 [27] Puis il dit à Thomas: Avance ici ton doigt, etqwalasele mes mains; i-avance aussi ta main, et mets-la dans mon côté; Et ne sois pas incrédule, mais crois. [28] Thomas lui répondit: Mon Seigneur et mon Dieu! "Thomas appelle Christ" mon Dieu "Ce verset n'est pas là pour appuyer la Trinité mais… on ne peut pas dire qu'aucun apôtre n'a qualifié le Christ de Dieu. Si quelqu'un a un... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo Nicole. Ndiza kuzama ukucacisa lo mbono noTomas noYesu njengoko ndiziva. UThomas ———- ukuthandabuza kukaTomas kwakomelele kakhulu. Ukusa kwinqanaba lokuba wayengathembi namnye wabapostile, awayehamba naye noYesu iminyaka emi-3.5! Kodwa naye wayengakholelwa kuYesu, wayecinga ukuba ukuvuka kwakhe akunakwenzeka (Yohane 20:25). Ngapha koko, uYesu wayengumntu. Kwaye ngoku wayeswelekile. Ngequbuliso wema phambi kwakhe uYesu enamanxeba. Inokuba yayiyinto yothusayo kuTomas, owayekholelwa ngokuqinisekileyo ukuba ayinakwenzeka. Waqonda ukuba uYesu akanako... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndingu suis d'accord.
"UYehova noYesu" ligama elihlanganiseneyo eli ndiva liphoswa ngapha nangapha ngabo bahleli ecingweni, baya kuyamkela iquinella kodwa hayi i-trifecta. NguThixo oSebenzayo, ngubani ngendlela yokuba wonke umntu aqaphele ukuba i-NWT ibhalile njengamandla kaYehova asebenzayo naphi na kwiNcwadi yabo? Andizange ndiyibone ibhalwe ngoluhlobo. Kuya kubakho umba othile wezomthetho wokuba kutheni bengazukuzihlawulela ikota kungenjalo ngebeyenzile kwakude kudala ngoku. 1 no 1 zenza 1 = 3. Kokunye ukujonga, masithi sinooThixo ababini abanamandla... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Mandiqale ngokubulela uEric noJames ngokupapasha olu lwazi. Ngumbandela obufuna ukucaciswa kangangexesha elithile, kwaye ndiziva ngathi nobabini wenze umsebenzi omnandi wokucacisa. Ndifuna ukubonisa umbulelo ongazenzisiyo wokuba nobabini niyimizekelo yabantu abaye batyhubela kwezona zinto zimbi kakhulu ii-JWs zinokutya, kwaye niphume nokholo lobuKhrestu. Xa kwacaca kum ukuba andisenakuthatha inxaxheba kwimisebenzi yeJWS, ndachitha ixesha elingaphezulu nje elincinci lokuzama... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Enkosi, Chet. Ndikunandiphe kakhulu ukufunda uluvo lwakho.
Ukufunda nje apha, kuya kufuneka ndivume ukuba ndiye ndahleka amatyeli amaninzi ndifunda amagqabantshintshi kunye nenqaku. Nali iqela le-JW's kunye ne-ex-JW's abaye babambelela ngokungqongqo ngokuchasene neZiqu zintathu, ngoku ucinga ukuba yintoni enokuba sisiphumo sesi sihloko? Ukusuka kwinto endiyibonayo, i-99.9% yenu yangaphambili ye-JW isasebenzisa i-NWT. Enye into ehlekisayo endinokuyithelekisa nokufana nokusebenzisa ikhathalogu yeSears kunye neRoebuck (engaphandle kweshishini kwaye engenaxabiso ngaphandle kokuba uphume kwiphepha langasese) uyokuthenga eWal-Mart. Ndumiso,... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Akuzange nanini na umxholo uphathe kakubi umanyano lwamaKristu njengoBathathu Emnye! Uninzi luye lwachitha iiyure ezininzi luzama ukweyisela abanye ukuba icala elinye okanye elinye lichanekile ukusukela kwinkulungwane yesithathu. Iye yaba “sisaphuli-mthetho” kuninzi, kwaye iyakholelwa (nokuba abanako ukuyicacisa ngokubhaliweyo) uninzi lwamaKristu namhlanje. Umntu makazibuze ukuba ngubani ofuna ukuba le meko ibekhona, ngubani oxhamlayo kuloo oyena Yehova okanye uSathana? Ndinengqondo elula, andisayi kungena kwezi mpikiswano, ngakumbi kubulungiseleli, malunga noBathathu Emnye. Kodwa ndiyawufumana umxholo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
U-Eric ndilufumana unxibelelwano olwenziwa nguJim neMizekeliso isahluko 8 malunga nobulumko kunye noYesu ngokungakhathali ukuba ayidideki kancinci kwaye ayicacanga. Ukuba iMizekeliso isahluko 8 ayisosimntwiso somgangatho wobulumko kwaye eneneni ibubuntu, umntu usisombulula njani into ethethwa ngumzekeliso ngobulumko obuhlala nobulumko okanye ubuqili kwigumbi lokulala ekuphela kwalo Imizekeliso isahluko 8:12. Okanye njani; olilungisa, olonqenayo, osisiyatha, onekratshi, okanye osisidenge njalo njalo. Ngaba simele sigqibe kwelokuba nazo azizizo iimpawu zobuntu kodwa kunoko... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukuqonda endinako kweMizekeliso kukutolika kwaye ngenxa yoko ndiyavuma ngokukhululekileyo ukuba ayilunganga. Nangona kunjalo, inyani yokuba ezinye iiBhayibhile zinganikeli abaseFilipi 2: 5-8 njengoko iNguqulelo Yehlabathi Elitsha ingqinisisi. Khumbula, ukuba zonke iinguqulelo zibhalwe ngabantu abakholelwa kuBathathu Emnye. Esi sicatshulwa siyayikhathaza imfundiso yezakwalizwi kwaye singumzekelo obalaseleyo wokhetho lukaBathathu Emnye. Kukho uhlalutyo olugqwesileyo lwesi sicatshulwa nguJason David DeBuhn kwiNyaniso noGuqulelo. Ukuba ufuna ukungena kwigrama, uyakufumanisa ukuba indlela yakhe yokuqiqa iyavakala. IsiGrike... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukuhlalutya izibhalo kunokuba ngumdla kakhulu kwaye kufundise. Kwangelo xesha, andikholelwa ukuba iya kusombulula imiba yezenkolo kwaye ayizukuchaphazela nethemba lakho lobomi banaphakade. Ngokwendlela endibona ngayo, akukho namnye kubapostile ofundisisa izibhalo kunye nenjongo yokuba ngababhali okanye abafundisi bomthetho. Kwakungekho naziphi na izibhalo ezikhoyo kuluntu jikelele. Kwaye ezo zibhalo zazikho, ngubani onokuxela ukuba zichanekile? Lonke ulwazi ababenalo kwakuvakala etempileni, okanye bethetha abanye. Isaphuli-mthetho sixhonywe ngokulandelayo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukucaca ekugqibeleni…!
Ndivumelana ngokupheleleyo no-Eric kunye noMnu Penton kuba ndiyakholelwa ukuba uYesu ungokobuthixo- kodwa kucacile ukuba babekho abo phakathi kwabapostile ababekholelwa ngokunjalo. Alithandabuzeki elokuba uYesu unguthixo. Kuthatha uthixo ukuba avuse abafileyo, aphilise abagulayo, aphilise iziqhwala, njalo-njalo.Ukuphononongwa ngokusondeleyo, ngokucacileyo kufuneka kugqitywe ukuba uYesu ungokobuthixo (ayenzelwanga ukuvakala njengenyaniso). Omnye mhlawumbi angade athi unguthixo wethu okwethutyana, ade abuyisele ubukumkani kuye... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kwakukho amaxesha apho nabapostile babengakwazi ukwenza imimangaliso ethile kwaye babize uYesu. Kodwa akukho namnye kubapostile owayephethe izihloko njengoko zichazwe ku-Isaya 9… kuphela nguYesu! Kuquka naleyo 'kaThixo Onamandla.' UYesu wabhekisa kwiNdumiso 82 xa wayetyholwa. Ke "uthixo" unxulumene ngokwamanqanaba ahlukeneyo. Amandla okwenza imimangaliso awazange abenze abapostile babe ngcwele! UYesu ungokobuthixo, nangona engenguye uSomandla. Ke, impikiswano yakho, ekuphenduleni isikhundla sam inomdla. Ngokubhekisele kumbuzo wakho wokugqibela, onengxaki (njengoko usitsho isikhundla sokuba izibhalo zithi cwaka ngokugqibeleleyo), leyo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ingcinga enye yokugqibela. Andibuzi ukuba uyavumelana nokuqiqa kwam, kwaye akakholelwa ukuba abanye kufuneka balindele kum. Oku kufanele ukuba kube yingxoxo-mpikiswano / ingxoxo enobuhlobo ekuzixolelaniseni ngokubhekele phaya ekutyhileni inyaniso yezibhalo. Ekugqibeleni, sikholelwa kakhulu kwiimfundiso ezisisiseko nezibalulekileyo zezibhalo. Akukho namnye, kumava am, oya kuvumelana nayo yonke ingcinga, kwaye akukho namnye kuthi oya kuba nesicatshulwa esichanekileyo esichanekileyo, hleze sizenzele imbeko kunokuba kunjalo ngoBawo. Oko sele kusithiwa... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndineengxaki ezimbalwa ngesakhelo sengxoxo elandelayo; Ndicinga ukuba umxholo obekiweyo unengxaki ngezi zizathu zilandelayo: 1. Uthi; 'intetho ecacileyo eBhayibhileni yenye into, ngelixa ukutolikwa komntu kuyinto eyahlukileyo'. Olu luvo oluzimeleyo kwangethuba kakhulu ukuba wenze ukuxhasa ityala onqwenela ukulithethelela. Ukufundwa kweBhayibhile ngumsebenzi 'wokutolika' ngabo bonke abafundi beBhayibhile. Into ebonakala 'njengengcaciso ecacileyo' komnye umntu inokuba yimpikiswano komnye. Ke kufuneka silinde kude kube emva kokuba 'uthuli luzinzile' kwaye ke wonke umntu kufuneka athathe isigqibo sokuba yeyiphi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo umbono wam kukuba u-Yesu wayengenabo ubukho bangaphambi kokuba abe ngumntu. Ayililo 'igama' ekuthethwa ngalo kuYohane 1: 1, kwabaseFilipi, kwiMizekeliso, kwiiCollos kunye nezinye izibhalo ezinokusonjululwa zingachazi uYesu njengesidalwa sangaphambi komntu. Kwaye kuthathelwa ingqalelo isibhalo solwimi sasibhalwe ngesiGrike (isiGrike) kunye nemibhalo yesiHebraic exhaphakileyo ngelo xesha ingxaki ayiveli inika ubungcwele kuYesu. Ukukhusela uYesu njengobuthixo kwithambeka elimtyibilizi eliya eBathathu Emnye. Ndicinga ukuba yinto engeyonyani ukucinga ngoBathathu Emnye okanye umbono wokuba uThixo noYesu... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
@ Alithia Well kuya kufuneka ufunde: U-Yohane 17: 1 - 11 (17) Ke kaloku, akuwathetha uYesu la mazwi, wawaphakamisela amehlo akhe ezulwini, wathi, Bawo, ilixa lifikile; mzukise uNyana wakho, ukuze noNyana amzukise, 2 kuba umnike igunya eluntwini lonke, ukuze bonke omnike bona, abanike ubomi. 3 Bubo ke obu ubomi obungunaphakade, ukuba mabakwazi, wena ukuphela koThixo oyinyaniso, naye uYesu Kristu omthumileyo. Ndikuzukisile emhlabeni, ndiwufezile umsebenzi obundinike wona, ukuba ndiwenze. IQHELEKILE:... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Dade othandekayo uMaria ndingathanda ukujonga uYohane 17 obhekisa kuye kwaye ujonge kwivesi 3, ukuba ibikhankanya ukuba uYesu wayengulowo 'uthunyelwe'. Ayichazi ukuba uYesu wayevela kummandla wasezulwini, kuphela ukuba 'uthunywe ezulwini' okanye ukuthunyelwa kwakhe kuvela kumthombo wasezulwini. Lo ngumahluko omkhulu, kwaye akufuneki sifunde kuwo ngaphezulu kokuthethwa apha. Kweli nqanaba ndingathanda ukuba uqwalasele uMarko isahluko 11: 13 apho uYesu wayexoxisana neenkokheli zenkolo kwaye wazibuza umbuzo onzima;... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Enkosi ngempendulo yakho.
UMariya ?
Alithia, kuye kwafuneka ndifunde ukuziphendulela kwesimo sakho ngokukhanya kukaYohane 17: 5 amatyeli aliqela ukuze ndibone indlela oqiqa ngayo. Ngokuqinisekileyo akukho lula ukuyiqonda. Kwanasemva kokufundwa kabini, ndinengxaki yokuyibona ingqiqo yayo. Ndikhetha ukuhamba nento echazwe ngokucacileyo ukuba nje igcina ukuvumelana kweZibhalo, okuqondwa ngokuthe ngqo kukaYohane 17: 5. Iyahambelana namaFilipi 2: 5-9 ngokomzekelo. Zininzi kakhulu izibhalo ezixhasa inkolelo yokuba uYesu wehla evela ezulwini ukuba ayikhathalele le mfundiso ethanda ukungabikho kwasekuqaleni. Ndiqinisekile... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Umbono 'wama-Unitarian' kukuba uYesu weza esenyameni. Kwaye kakhulu njengoko weza kuphela njengomntu. Akunakubakho umbono oqinisekileyo ngakumbi wokuza kukaYesu esenyameni kunaleyo anokubakho?
Ndacinga ukuba mandizikhuphe apha kodwa zivumele ngoku ukuba zigxile kumanqaku kaThixo oneziqu ezithathu kunye nesiseko sokuba abanye baziva bexhasa le mfundiso. Ndijonge phambili ukuyidiliza.
Enkosi ngempendulo.
Uthando kubo bonke ukusuka kwiAlithia
Xa umntwana ezalwa, asitsho ukuba umntwana weza esenyameni. Yintsingiselo engenantsingiselo. Ukuza kuthetha ukuvela kwenye indawo. Ngaphandle kobukho bangaphambili, eli binzana alinantsingiselo.
Molo Alithia, yingcaciso elungileyo kaJohn 17: 5.
Ndinezinto ezininzi zokuthetha malunga nesi sihloko kwaye ndiza kuthumela xa ndinako. Ngoku bendifuna ukukubonisa inkxaso. That Andikuko ukuba ndichasene naye nabani na kwaye andizukuhlonipha ezinye izimvo kodwa le ikwayimbono yam ngokunjalo.
Molo Nightingale, ndicinga ukuba nabani na angazigwebela, ngokuthelekisa izimvo zam, iimpendulo endizifumeneyo, ukubona ukuzibophelela ngokungagungqiyo kwimibono engaxhaswanga zizibhalo. Esinye isiphikiso 'ziingxoxo ezidibeneyo' zokuxhasa umbono we-Unitarian. Nangona kunjalo ndibona ngaphezulu 'kweengxoxo eziqinisekisiweyo' ukuxhasa umbono we-henotheistic.
"ILizwi," (okanye iGrk Logos) libhalwe apha (kuYohane 1: 1)… elinomdla, kuba maninzi amakhulu okusetyenziswa kuzo zonke iirekhodi zebhayibhile ze-OT kunye ne-NT ngaphandle koonobumba. ILogos lithetha "icebo likaThixo," okanye "intando kaThixo." Ndiyakholelwa kakhulu ukuba umpostile uJohn ("ukuba" uwabhale la mazwi-abafundi abangaphezulu bebhayibhile bayathandabuza ukuchana ngokwembali kukaJohn), ukuba uYohane wayesebenzisa "uLizwi" njengesimntwiso, kufana "nobulumko" obusetyenziswe kwiMiz. 8. Isicwangciso NGUThixo, okanye ukuthanda kwakhe (kule ngxelo) yokuba azise uMesiya (apho iLogos okanye "uLizwi" -... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
"ILizwi," (okanye iGrk Logos) licacisiwe apha (kuYohane 1: 1)… into enika umdla, kuba zininzi kakhulu izinto ezisetyenziswayo kwiirekhodi zebhayibhile ze-OT kunye ne-NT ngaphandle kokwenza imali. ILogos lithetha "icebo likaThixo," okanye "intando kaThixo." Ndiyakholelwa kakhulu ukuba umpostile uJohn ("ukuba" uwabhale la mazwi-abaphengululi bebhayibhile abaninzi bayathandabuza ukuchana ngokwembali kukaJohn), ukuba uYohane wayesebenzisa "uLizwi" njengesimntwiso, kufana "nobulumko" obusetyenziswe kwiMiz. 22. Njengokuba ubani esitsho, "uThixo ubulumko," umntu angatsho ukuba "uThixo licebo, okanye uyakwenza" - kuyo yonke into ayenzayo uThixo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukulungiswa: Ubulumko obumdalwe njengoYesu kwimo yesiqhelo yabasetyhini yimizekelo kwisahluko 8. . .ukusahluko 22
NGOKWENENE? Undinike u- "negative" (ngentla) wokulungisa? Yinyani.
Yiza eRusticshore, kuya kufuneka uvume ukuba abantu bafunda izinto zakho ubuncinci! Uninzi lwexesha ndingazi ukuba kukho umntu ochithe imizuzwana embalwa efunda izithuba zam. Mna ndizonwabele iiposti zakho. Ndiyayithanda indlela yokusika kuyo yonke into. Kodwa khumbula ukuba ayinguye wonke umntu oziva ngendlela efanayo nam. Qhubeka nokuthumela ubhuti. Kuya kufuneka uthathe izinto ngentwana yetyuwa apha ngakumbi ngesi sihloko njengoko kubonakala kushushu kakhulu ngokukhawuleza okukhulu! Ndiza kuthatha 'into engekhoyo' kunokunqunyulwa intloko okanye ukutshiswa esibondeni... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Andikholelwa ukuba uYesu, okanye wayeyingelosi. Andikholelwa ukuba uYesu "yiNgelosi yeNkosi" ekuthethwa ngayo, umzekelo, kwiijaji. Ubukho bangaphambili bukaYesu sesinye isihloko esineengxoxo ezinde. uxolo
Njengoko sele kukhankanyiwe, incwadi kaJohane ngokungaguqukiyo ijolise kuYesu ebhekisa kuye njengalowo kufuneka ujonge kuye. Thelekisa loo nto kunye neencwadi zevangeli, ezibhekisa ikakhulu kuYesu eqondisa abantu kuYise. Ukongeza, uninzi lokwahluka okubalulekileyo kuye kwaqhubeka, kwaye kuyaqhubeka ukufunyanwa ngeleta kaJohn (mhlawumbi ngaphezulu kunomyinge). Ewe, zombini izinto ezincinci kunye nezigxekayo ziyajongwa kuzo zonke iincwadi-ngokuqinisekileyo uJohn unesabelo esikhulu! Kwaye ezi azinxibelelananga nesiko eliqhelekileyo lasekhaya okanye iimpazamo zepspspsis… kodwa ngabom nangokubhubha ngabom! Ngokubhekisele ekubhaleni kukaYohane... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UJim no-Eric abathandekayo,
Enkosi ngevidiyo, inemfundiso kwaye iluncedo kakhulu ekuqondeni imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Kwiintsuku nje ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo ndixoxe nendoda enye malunga nemfundiso kaBathathu Emnye kwaye ividiyo yakho iyakuba luncedo olulungileyo kwingxoxo ezayo. Ndilinde ezinye iividiyo.