Benefiting from the 2016 Regional Convention

– posted by meleti
The outlines and videos for the 2016 Regional Convention, “Remain Loyal to Jehovah!” have been leaked.

I know that many of you will be going to this year’s convention, and it would be wrong to discourage anyone from doing that.  On the other hand, there are others who used to attend regularly, but now feel it is in their best interests to remain away.  I think that many of us can understand that sentiment as well.  This year’s program goes a long way to reinforcing that position, yet there is still much benefit to be gained if one has the correct point of view and remains loyal to God and true to his inspired word.

Having read and analyzed all the outlines and considered the message behind all the videos, it is apparent that while the stated theme of the convention is “Remain Loyal to Jehovah”, the underlying theme is ‘remain loyal to the Organization’; and while the word ‘loyalty’ is used throughout, it is often portrayed as a synonym for ‘obedience’.

Nevertheless, there are many encouraging talks and videos.  However, deviation comes when the purpose is to reinforce the authority of the Organization.  That seems to be the dividing line.  Thus talks dealing with the example of Jesus (See Symposium: Be Loyal, as Jesus Was) or Job (See Symposium: Lessons on Loyalty from the Book of Job) are generally very encouraging.  The subject matter does not threaten the religious authority of the Organization, so it can be stated impartially and for the most part, it is.

On the other hand, talks such as Symposium: Loyally Uphold Jehovah’s Judgments and the two Sunday morning symposiums are used to reinforce the control the Organization has over the flock and are largely based on motivating loyalty through fear, not love.

Knowing what these are beforehand will help the sincere Bible student to protect himself or herself from being misled.  Nevertheless, our perceptive powers must be trained to make such distinctions and it is hoped that this article will assist in that.  (He 5:14)

The Friday Sessions

Take for example the opening talk: “Chairman’s Address: Jehovah Deserves ‘Undivided Loyalty’”.  Now think about that title.  It makes perfect sense, doesn’t it? If our loyalty is divided, we cannot be truly loyal.  As Jesus said, “No one can slave for two masters.” (Mt 6:24)  The reason is obvious.  Eventually, one is torn between the two because inevitably there will be conflicting instructions producing a Catch 22 situation.

The speaker opens by commending the loyalty of the convention attendees in making the effort to be present, and says “You will be blessed for your effort to be loyal and obedient!”

Right from the start, we see that loyalty and obedience are linked in the program. This will be a recurring pairing throughout the convention.  It will be taken for granted by the audience in general that these two words are synonymous; but we will not be fooled.  There are times when loyalty requires disobedience.  For example, an alcoholic father tells his daughter to go buy him some liquor.  To obey him would be disloyal.

While opening with reasons for loyalty to Jehovah and his appointed king, Jesus, the outline quickly shifts to the main convention theme: Loyalty (obedience) to the Organization.

“Members of the “great crowd” have the heartfelt desire to be loyal to the symbolic Jew, representing the anointed ones including “the faithful and discreet slave,” God’s channel for dispensing spiritual food and enlightenment to the visible part of His organization (Re 7:9; Mt 24:45; Zec 8:23; w96 3/15 16-17 9-10)”

We want to be loyal to all those who are appointed to take the lead in Jehovah’s organization, whether of the anointed or of the “other sheep” [Read 3 John 5, 6] (w96 3/15 17-19 11, 14)”

If you look up all these Scriptural references from the outline, you’ll see that none provides any proof whatsoever for the points being made.

“Unlike disloyal Satan, who focuses on the negative, we loyally defend such ones and never speak ill of them (Jude 8; Re 12:10)”

It seems those “taking the lead in Jehovah’s organization” wish to go about their business without anyone finding fault.  Such fault-finders are likened to Satan.

This is the very attitude held by the Pharisees and priests of Jesus’ day, yet that did not stop him from speaking negatively of their deeds and teachings.  Actually, it is disloyal Satan who wants us to ignore wrongdoing in the Organization.

Unwitting Self-Denunciation

Actually we can derive much benefit from the encouragement this talk unwitting imparts to those who have awakened.  All we have to do is switch the roles.

For example, in the Chairman’s Address, under the subheading, “Beware of Misplaced Loyalty”, the outline instructs:

“A Bible student’s loyalty to Jehovah can be tested when he realizes that he has to choose between his present religion and the truth
The Bible is clear about which is the correct choice (Re 18:4)”

The speaker will convey these thoughts because he stands with the firm conviction that his listeners all believe the Organization is “the truth”.  However, if our present religion is that of Jehovah’s Witnesses, then the principle still applies, does it not?  If our religion is not the truth, then “the Bible is clear about which is the correct choice” for us to make. (Re 18:4)

Next, this opening talk prepares the hearts of the attendees for upcoming discussions on disfellowshipping; yet again we see an unwitting self-denunciation contained in its words:

“Because Jehovah requires exclusive devotion, it is not possible to divide our loyalty between Jehovah and another god (Ex 34:14)
It was not possible to serve both Jehovah and Baal (1Ki 18:21)
It is not possible to slave for God and for Riches (Mt 6:24)”

The key to identifying a false god like Baal or Riches, or any other entity, is its demand for loyalty.  Since we should only be loyal to Jesus and through him to Jehovah, anyone demanding loyalty and obedience from us stands condemned.  Jehovah makes no allowance for a portion of the exclusive devotion (loyalty, obedience) he demands of us to go to another.  For example, should men teach us something that contradicts the Bible and then require us to teach this falsehood to others, even punishing us should we refuse, they would definitely qualify as a false god, would they not?

The outline continues:

“Jehovah stated that he would unleash his wrath on those trying to mix true worship with false religion [Read Zephaniah 1:4, 5]
Loyalty will keep us from being one thing on the inside and another on the outside”

If you find through our continued analysis of this year’s convention program that you are being directed to believe and teach things which are not true, then recall the above words from the outline and dwell on their application.

Symposium: Maintain Loyalty in…


This convention makes extensive use of videos to get across its various loyalty-related messages and inculcate the underlying theme of obedience to the Organization.  The problem for us as viewers is that a video enters the eyes and goes directly to the brain, while speech has to be interpreted and processed before it is assimilated.  Therefore, if one wishes to bypass the reasoning centers of the brain and influence another on an emotional level, a video can be a very powerful tool.

Each video is part of a series which develops a story based on the same characters.  Several storylines are developed throughout the three days of the convention.  These stories seem unrelated, yet they are all tied together at the end of the convention.

The video series for this symposium shows a single mother with two children who is supporting her family by making a living doing menial labor.  The message of the first video is that she shows loyalty for Jehovah by not trying to better her lot in life.  Doing so would limit what she can do to support the Organization.


Again, not seeing how their words apply to themselves, the next outline reads:

“Imagine the effect on others when kings and prophets made supportive or even sympathetic comments about false gods! (2Ki 1:2; Jer 2:8)
Israel’s history shows that such verbal disloyalty by those in responsible positions turned many away from true worship

Have you ever sat in a gathering with other Jehovah’s Witnesses and heard them gush about the members of the Governing Body?  That these men are now revered is evident to anyone who cares to scan any of the Facebook JW support groups—each with many thousands of members.  There you will see brothers and sisters making public declarations of unconditional loyalty and obedience to the teachings of these men.  The rebuke from Paul to the Corinthians now goes unheeded.  (1Co 3:4)

Remember that there was no god Baal.  He never existed except in the imaginations of those who worshipped him.  False gods are created by false worshipers.


We should follow this counsel from the outline:

“We should actively participate in deeds that support true worship and our fellow worshippers
Read the Bible and Bible-based publications, and avoid apostate teachings”

It’s nice that the outline doesn’t restrict us to JW publications, but to “Bible-based publications”.  There are many Bible-based publications on the internet, so by all means, make good use of them.  When studying, do not stick to the NWT but make use of the dozens of translations available on the internet as well as interlinear Bibles and Bible concordances and lexicons. Such sites as can be very useful for research.  Also heed the advice to avoid apostate teachings.  However, recognize that a true apostate is one who rejects the Christ and his teaching.  (2 John 8-11)  So do not consider someone an apostate just because he disagrees with you or what you’ve been taught. Use the Bible to identify the true apostate.

Jehovah’s “Loyal Love Is Better Than Life”

This final talk of the morning examines part of King David’s life, focusing particularly on the 63rd Psalm.  It focuses on Jehovah’s Loyal Love, a translation of the Hebrew word checed which the NWT translates as ‘loving kindness’ in the 1984 version and renders as ‘loyal love’ in the 2013 edition.  However, the meaning of the word does not correspond with the English word ‘loyalty’ despite the recent mistranslation of Micah 6:8.

It is important that we remember this distinction as we continue to review the contents of the convention program.

Symposium: Be Loyal, as Jesus Was

—When Young

The Friday afternoon session opens with this talk.  This is good counsel, but the video application reveals the Organization’s mentality, not God’s.  Skills are not to be developed beyond the hobby stage.

—When Persecuted

Jehovah’s Witnesses are continually taught that they will be persecuted, despite the fact that very few have even seen the type of persecution shown in the video.  The average Witness believes that even now our brothers are being persecuted in many parts of the earth, and the general belief is that this is pretty much a JW situation since the false religions of Christendom are all lying in bed with the politicians of the world.  Of course, a google search for ‘Christian persecution’ will show this is simply not the case.  However, it is important for the organization’s leadership to foster this misconception and this video contributes to that mindset.  The videos on the Sunday program will get a lot of mileage out of this concept that Witnesses alone are the ones to be persecuted.

It is puzzling however why the young man refuses to play the anthem when required to do so since there is no violation of Christian law involved.

Nevertheless, for those of us who love truth, there is good counsel in this outline.

“Jesus was persecuted in many ways, both verbally and physically
He was ridiculed, spat on, scourged, and falsely accused of drunkenness, gluttony, and fellowship with demons
Jesus focused, not on persecution, but on the accomplishing of Jehovah’s will (Joh 17:1, 4)
He sought approval from God, not from his opposers (Joh 8:15-18)
Jesus refused to retaliate against his persecutors [Read 1 Peter 2:21-23]
He recognized his Father’s role as the just Avenger
At times, Jesus removed himself from danger (Joh 11:53, 54)”

Those who have awakened to the truth, and have tried to help others come to a realization that much of what we have been taught comes from men and not God, have similarly been ridiculed and falsely accused.  Yet, these ones do not seek to retaliate against elders who have abused them, nor against fellow congregation members who lying say ever sort of wicked things against them.  They seek God’s approval, not that of his opposers.

“Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU.” (Mt 5:11, 12)

So the counsel of this outline fits our situation nicely.  The Organization has again unwittingly described the way they deal with Jesus’ true disciples.

—When Abandoned

There is good counsel in this talk if properly applied.  Disregard the exhortation to “Stay close to Jehovah’s organization.”  The video depicts someone who leaves “the truth” in a negative light, because it is working on the premise that being “in the Organization” and “in the truth” are synonymous, when in fact they are antonymous.

Symposium: Loyally Uphold Jehovah’s Judgments

—Shun Unrepentant Wrongdoers

This outline details the Organization’s implementation of 1 Corinthians 5:11-13.  You will notice there that Paul shows the extreme to which first century Christians were to go in shunning an unrepentant wrongdoer by saying, “not even eating with such a man.”  In those days, having a meal with someone meant you were at peace with each other.  A Jew wouldn’t sit down with a Gentile and share a meal.  They kept separate.  Nevertheless, a Jew would speak with a Gentile.  If Paul had meant us not even to speak a word to “such a man”, he would have given that as the extreme.  He did not, which is most telling.

So the Organization has added to the word of God. This it does in the name of God, for the subtitle reads “Jehovah’s Judgments Are Beneficial.”  It claims in the outline that “disfellowshipping…helps keep Jehovah’s…name free from reproach.”  We cannot add to God’s word and do so in his name and expect to keep his name free from reproach.  The opposite will result, and indeed recent events on the world stage, such as the hearings by the Royal Commission into child abuse in Australia, have proven that to be true.

To justify its disfellowshipping policy, the outline states, “Jehovah is not controlled by sentimentality…He took action against the wicked spirits to protect the rest of his spiritual family.”

This is an odd comparison for the Organization to make, is it not?  The elders are usually quick to disfellowship on the basis that protecting the congregation is paramount.  Yet according to JW theology, God threw the demons out of heaven in 1914, almost 6,000 years after the rebellion.  Are they suggesting that he left his spiritual organization unprotected for thousands of years?  It would seem that Jehovah’s tolerance and forbearance hold valuable lessons which the Governing Body is missing.

The way the Organization applies Paul’s words to the Corinthians as demonstrated in both the outline and the video makes them override all other Scriptural principles, such as the requirement for a man to provide for those of his family; and the principle of mercy. (1Ti 5:8; Mt 18:23-35)  For example, the video depicts the Father throwing his daughter out of the house, and then when she calls, her mother will not even answer the phone.  Was the daughter calling because she was in the hospital, or lying on the road bleeding to death following a car accident?  The mother has no way of knowing, so here attitude comes across as unfeeling and hard-hearted.  Yet because it is in the video, such an attitude has the endorsement of the Governing Body.  How can such an unloving attitude represent Christianity and the God who is love?  How can Jehovah’s Witnesses claim to be sanctifying Jehovah’s name when they endorse such judgmental, unchristian behavior?  And exactly how does this compare with Jesus’ illustration of the prodigal son? The father viewed the son a long way off and ran to him. (Lu 15:11-32) Bringing this forward to our day, we cannot imagine the father declining a phone call from the prodigal son, can we?  The attitude of a true Christian mother would not be to dwell on how much her daughter had hurt her.  In imitation of Christ, true Christian parents would put the child’s welfare first.  Unfortunately, the video and outline says we are doing just that by punishing the child.

Altering the Shunning Policy

This excerpt is from the public policy on regarding shunning those who are inactive.

“Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.”

Geoffrey Jackson also confirmed that members could fade away without being shunned.

Such PR statements are intentionally misleading.  The outline states:

“Loyal Christians would not associate with “anyone called a brother” who is practicing serious sin
This is true even if no congregation action has been taken, as may be the case with an inactive one (w85 7/15 19 14)”

So an inactive one (one who is officially not counted as a member of the congregation and therefore not a brother) must still conform to all the Organization’s rules and of course cannot find fault with anything the Organization teaches. Otherwise, he’d be guilty of serious sin and although he has faded away and is no longer a member of the congregation (not a brother) would still be sought out and dealt with.

Even if not officially disfellowshipped, Witnesses are now directed to practice a personal form of disfellowshipping for such ones.

Apparently, Paul’s words, “anyone called a brother” from 1Co 5:11 upon which all this policy is based, are now to be disregarded.  It appears the Organization is saying that what Paul meant was “once a brother, always a brother.”  This new policy of “you can run, but you can’t hide” means that the organization should revise its web site page to say that we do now shun people who drift away; that there is no way to simply leave the Organization.

This information is now public, part of the worldwide convention program, yet no change has been made to the web site. People are being misled about the true nature of the Organization’s policy on shunning.  This is hypocritical.

—Be Forgiving

In the previous video, the mother had no way of knowing if her daughter was calling to repent.  However, even if that had been the case, it would have been a moot point, because the mother could not grant forgiveness. Only the elders on the original committee can do that.  The mother would have had to wait to be told that she could exercise forgiveness.

This video depicts the daughter, many years later and now a single mother with two children, trying to return.  After 12 months, she is forgiven.  She is no longer sinning, and wants to come back, yet she has to wait 12 long months before she gets God’s forgiveness granted through the local elders.

The outline says, “Jehovah is ‘ready to forgive’ [Read Psalm 86:5]” but only after a year has passed.

“Jehovah forgives freely and generously (Isa 55:7)”, again, only after a year has elapsed.

“His willingness to forgive our many sins endears him to us (Jas 3:2)” as long as we are really, really patient, since 12 months seems to be the minimum time limit for God’s forgiveness to kick in.

I’ve known cases where the wait has stretched into years.  This again proves there is a de facto sentence that has to be served before JWs can grant a reinstatement, a get-out-of-jail card.  I have documented reports telling of elder bodies who were questioned by their local branch office because they reinstated someone in less than a year.

Apart from all the above, it is nice that the congregation in the video is shown clapping at the announcement of reinstatement.  Up until a few months ago, that too was prohibited. (See “A Barren Tree”)

Loyalty—Part of the New Personality

This outline tells us that “loyalty to Jehovah can be tested when a friend gets involved in wrongdoing that needs to be brought to the attention of the elders”.  Jesus didn’t tell us to inform on others.   There is nothing in the Bible telling congregations to report wrongdoers to the apostles in Jerusalem.  Instead, he clearly told us that when a brother sins, the first thing we do is go to him in private.  He said nothing about involving the elders.  He did say the whole congregation might get involved, but even then, only when the first and second step had failed to bring about repentance. So this misguided application of loyalty actually causes us to deviate from the Lord’s righteous commandment. (Mt 18:15-17)

How Christ’s Loyalty as High Priest Helps Us

This talk falls into the category of “do as they say, not as they do”.  (Mt 23:3) For instance, the first video is introduced with these words:

“In Jesus’ day, chief priests, such as Annas and Caiaphas, corrupted justice; religious leaders, such as the Sadducees and the Pharisees, were heavy-handed bullies who cared more about their man-made rules than about the needs of the people“

Then it summarizes the video by asking: “Did you notice how the religious leaders were harsh and cold, using threats to control people?”

Ask yourself, what would happen if you tried to correct the Governing Body about some teaching you have found to be false?  Would you be free from fear in writing them a letter to set them straight?   Would you expect no retaliation were you to share your findings with others?  Would your life be free of the threat of disfellowshipping in such a circumstance?

Saturday Sessions

Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones


This video likens anyone disagreeing with the decisions of the elders to rebellious Absalom.  This is a false comparison. First, Absalom was rebelling against the king whom Jehovah has personally appointed through his prophet Samuel.  Jehovah’s Witnesses routinely find fault with the religious leaders of other religions because they do not view such ones as appointed by God.  So what evidence is there that the local elders are appointed by God?

Second, the video makes the valid point that the brother doesn’t know all the details. Correct! And this highlights yet another flaw in our judicial system.  In the Jewish system of things, judicial cases were heard publicly at the gates of the city, so all could know that justice was being done.  If called upon to stone the offender (today we don’t stone, we disfellowship) the people could do so with a clean conscience because they witnessed the proceedings and heard the evidence.  In the Christian system of things, the congregation was to be involved in a disfellowshipping, not just three individuals meeting in secret.  (Mt 18:17; 1Co 5:1-5)

Baptism: Never Abandon Your Loyal Love for Jehovah

The outline states: “When you dedicated yourself to Jehovah, you made the most important promise of your life”.  However, it provides not a single Scripture showing that Jehovah requires such a vow of dedication.  This dedication promise is yet another control mechanism imposed by men onto the flock of God.

Symposium: Lessons on Loyalty from the Book of Job

Like the symposium on Jesus, this is another excellent series of talks and the videos are thought-provoking. (Natural Forces video and Animal Creation video)

Sunday Sessions

The two symposiums on the Sunday morning sessions introduce what are being called the "bunker videos."  In these eight videos a group of witnesses is depicted hiding in a basement while chaos reigns outside. New ones join them throughout the account, signaling their entitlement to be there by knowing the secret password knock.  After each knock sequence, the ministerial servant looks to the elder to get his permission to open the door.  Presumably, if the ones on the other side of the door did not know the knock, they would not be let in.  It would appear themselves by name yet not be allowed in because of not knowing the secret knock.  The idea being transmitted here is that unless we remain loyal to the organization, attending all the meetings, we will not know what we need to know to get into the "inner chambers" and be saved.

The purpose of each video is to show us what we need to do nor not do so as not to lose out on life.

Symposium: Avoid What Erodes Loyalty

Bunker Video on Pride

Pride is undoubtedly an impediment to gaining everlasting life.  However, the real point of the video is not about pride, but about accepting counsel from the Organization.  By the elder's wife's remark ("Please tell me you didn't argue with him") we are told that any disagreement with counsel given by elders is evidence of pride.

Having written in to the branch over the years, I've come to learn that this counsel is not applicable when the direction is reversed.  Counsel them about ways to improve their administration, or worse, on Scriptural matters, and you will be told that such counsel is viewed as presumptuous.

Bunker Video on Improper Entertainment

The brother relating this experience was "guilty" of watching improper content on his smart phone.  Not pornography, mind you, just videos that caused him to have improper thoughts.

While there is a lot of junk out there, the point here is that not keeping completely free from any and everything that could cause improper thoughts would have cost him his place in the "inner chamber".  This and the next video are both examples of how the Organization is taking being "separate from the world" to Pharisaical extremes, as if we can achieve righteousness by works.

Bunker Video on Bad Associations

The sister recounts how her association at work might have cost her a coveted place in the "inner chamber".  The idea is that any level of friendship with non-Jehovah's Witnesses is dangerous.  All people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses are to be viewed as immoral and worldly.  They are bad associations.

There are many bad associations outside the organization. There are also many bad associations inside the organization.  In fact, the counsel from 1 Corinthians 15:33 concerns associations inside the congregation.  But we are not to consider associations as good or bad on an individual basis, but only based on which side of a dividing line they live.  This is just another form of nationalism.

Up to this point, the convention viewers do not know what the setting of the videos is.  It is in this one that they learn the brothers are huddling in the basement-cum-bunker because the great tribulation is raging outside and the authorities are looking for Jehovah's Witnesses in the antitypical Attack of the Assyrian.  (Now we see why the Hezekiah/Sennacherib account was chosen for this year's movie drama.)

Bunker Video on Fear of Man

We learn in this video that the preaching message of Jehovah’s Witnesses will change from one proclaiming the Good News to a Message of Judgment.  Some have missed out on life (They are not in the "inner chamber" bunker) because they let fear of man stand in their way.

Symposium: Pursue What Builds Loyalty

Bunker Video on Appreciation

Here we learn that some have missed out on life because they found fault with Organizational arrangements.  Any administrative adjustments or "new light" must be accepted with unconditional good will, as if from Jehovah himself. Otherwise, one will miss out on life because survival through the great tribulation will only be granted to those who are given the "secret knock."

Bunker Video on Self Control

Perhaps the most insensitive of all the videos.  The sister here was plagued by "negative thoughts".  While intentionally left vague, the setting leads to the conclusion that she was suffering from depression.  Since depression is often a clinical ailment, suggesting that those with negative thoughts are to blame for a lack of self control is both insensitive and downright dangerous.

This video is shameful and since Witnesses presume to bear the name of God, it is also going to be a cause for reproach.

Bunker Video on Love

The idea is that love builds loyalty.  Of course, love is a key Christian quality.  But what does it have to do with selling all one's belongings?  Here, we are shown two regular pioneers who sold their nice home so that they could do more for Jehovah.  If pioneers are not doing enough because they have a nice home, then what of those who are not pioneers?  Does having a nice home imply that one is "not doing enough"?  Where does the Bible equate love of God with "doing enough"?  Where does it say that self-induced poverty and self-abnegation display love of God?

Bunker Video on Faith

The faith extolled in this video is faith in the instruction from the Governing Body and reliance on all their teachings.  The video series ends with a SWAT team breaking into the home.  Apparently, the police don't need to know the secret knock.

Summarizing the Bunker Videos

The bunker videos are based on speculation and are designed to inspire loyalty for the Organization based on fear, not love.  The overriding premise is that to survive into the New World one must remain in the Organization.  Unless you are found together with your brothers, you cannot be saved. That is the meaning of the secret knock.  Those who were not associated with the congregation, going to all the meetings, would not know the secret knock and so would not be admitted.  Like people in Noah’s day, they would be shut out of the ark-like Organization.  Membership in the Organization is salvation.

  • If you don’t agree with the Organization’s arrangements, you will be shut out.

  • If you have negative thoughts, you will be shut out.

  • If you disobediently watch the wrong TV programs, listen to the wrong kind of music, frequent the wrong kind of web sites, you will be shut out.

  • If you associate with people in the world who we are told are all immoral, you will be shut out.

  • If you did not engage in the preaching work in line with the latest Organizational arrangements, you will be shut out.

  • If you don’t simplify by selling your precious things, you will be shut out.

The premise is that there will be a great tribulation as phase one of Armageddon, but there is no proof of this in the Bible.  The premise is that there will be a message of Judgment, but there is no proof of this in the Bible. In fact, anyone who changes the message of the Good News is to be accused. (Ga 1:8)

The most egregious aspect of this video series is that it teaches that our salvation cannot be obtained individually, but that it depends on our affiliation with and obedience to the Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Where Is This Heading?

“I have a bad feeling about this!”[i]

There is something very disturbing about these eight “bunker videos.”  I’m going to don my JW hat for a moment.  (1Co 9:22) We’ve been told that prophetic antitypes are to be rejected unless stipulated in Scripture. (w15 3/15 p. 17 Questions From Readers)

The Bible does speak of "the great tribulation" at Revelation 7:14, but it doesn't explain what it is, nor establish when it starts. We deduce what it is and when it starts based on the specious and now outlawed practice of creating antitypical prophetic parallels not found in Scripture.  In this case, we based our speculation on the first century destruction of Jerusalem. In short, our doctrine is a fabrication.

We compound one false antitypical fulfillment with another, by continuing to teach that there will be a time when our message will change from "good news" to “judgment cry”.  This fabricated prophetic parallel dates back to the days of Fred Franz.  Here it is in all its glory:

w84 3/15 pp. 18-19 pars. 16-17 God’s United “Mighty Nation” to Fill the Earth

The expanding visible organization of Jehovah is nearing the time when he will use it in another mighty way: to deliver his final judgment message against this system. This may be likened to the time when the Israelites, who had already marched around Jericho once a day for six days, were instructed: “On the seventh day you should march round the city seven times and the priests should blow the horns. . . . When you hear the sound of the horn, all the people should shout a great war cry; and the wall of the city must fall down flat.” So on the final day the work speeded up by seven times! Then the horns sounded, the people shouted a war cry and “the wall began to fall down flat.”—Joshua 6:2-5, 20.

17 Today the “soft” waters of truth are being taken to the people to encourage them to turn to Jehovah. But the day soon will come when the message will turn “hard.” It will announce the imminent end of this entire satanic system. The soft waters of truth will congeal to become the hard hailstones of truth. So powerful will these final judgment messages be that they are likened to “a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent,” that is, of gigantic size. That is why Revelation 16:21 states: “The plague of it was unusually great.”

This convention has reintroduced a decades-old teaching idea that God will one day instruct us to change our message from "good news" to "condemnatory judgment".  How God will tell us to do this, we do not know, but our reasoning is that he will do so one way or the other because as Amos 3:7 says, “For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing Unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.”

The problem with this view is multifaceted.  First, this understanding is based on an antitypical application of a Bible account which is not found in Scripture.  We've just condemned that practice as unacceptable. (See w15 3/15 p. 17) , Second, given our many failed predictions, it is evident that Jehovah has never used the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses as his prophets.  Third, the Bible tells us that even if "we or an angel out of heaven" were to tell us to change the good news, we should reject him. (Galatians 1:8)  Fourth, the Lord has told us that no one knows when he will return, and that it will be at a time we do not expect it to be.  (Mt 24:36, 44)  An abrupt change of message would be a dead giveaway that he's about to return, which would contradict his words; in fact, it would nullify them.

Given all the foregoing, why are we promoting this idea on the world stage before millions?  What spirit is behind this stunning revelation?  Further, if we are bold enough to do this now, will we carry it through to its logical conclusion?  Will Jehovah's Witnesses be instructed to change the message of the good news?  A worldwide, all-out campaign that carries a message of adverse judgment to the nations will surely bring great tribulation on the Witnesses, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

What would be the true source of such an idea—one that blatantly contradicts Scripture?

That is the most worrying question of all.

[i] Han Solo in Star Wars Episode IV

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  • Comment by LonelySheep on 2016-06-10 18:06:02

    I have to comment on the complete misapplication of the story of Aaron and his sons. The video says the the parents of the DF girl were helped to remain loyal by this example. The video says that Aaron was ordered "not to mourn" his sons who were executed by Jehovah, in order to "show the nation they supported Jehovah's judgement." Both of the these statements are inaccurate.

    First Aaron was not ordered "not to mourn" but not to engage in the typical mourning rituals. The org is implying that he was not to *feel* something, which is not the case. And the reasoning? There is nothing to indicate it was to prove something or show the nation something. It was because of his position and the requirements of it. In fact, it was indicated that "the rest of the nation" would mourn for them - yes, would mourn even those who were executed directly by Jehovah.

    Lev. 10:6 Moses then said to Aaron and his other sons El·e·aʹzar and Ithʹa·mar: “Do not let your heads go ungroomed or tear your garments, so that you may not die and that God may not become indignant against all the assembly. Your brothers of the whole house of Israel will weep over those whom Jehovah has killed by the fire. 7 You must not go out from the entrance of the tent of meeting or you will die, for Jehovah’s anointing oil is upon you.” So they did according to Moses’ word.

    The requirement for him not engaging in mourning rituals because of his position was not limited to this specific case. The cross reference for this scripture is in Leviticus 21:10-12:

    “‘The high priest of his brothers, on whose head the anointing oil is poured and who has been installed to wear the priestly garments, should not let his head go ungroomed or tear his garments. 11 He should not approach any dead person; he may not defile himself even for his father or his mother. 12 He should not go out from the sanctuary and should not profane the sanctuary of his God, for the sign of dedication, the anointing oil of his God, is upon him. I am Jehovah.

    Lev 21:5 shows the requirement of not shaving their heads, etc applied to the underpriests also (Aaron's other sons.)

    This was not to prove a point. This was part of the requirements of their positions regardless of who died under what circumstances. The manner in which they are using this account to shame people into not even "mourning" over their loved ones is disgusting and inaccurate scripturally.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-06-11 01:40:55

      Thank you so very much, LonelySheep. Great research.

      Perhaps the brothers who wrote this part and those who reviewed it, proofread it, and finally, those who approved it, didn't do their due diligence in fully researching the account. That shows gross negligence because this lesson is intended to influence the thinking of eight million people.

      That's actually the better of the two options. The other is that these brothers did research the Bible but chose to twist the account to their own ends. That is fully reprehensible.

      Whichever of these two options applies, one thing is certain: A slave that is both faithful and discreet would not be party to such a travesty.

  • Comment by iiiiiii on 2016-07-01 22:13:33

    Because his love is the best thing in the entire universe. He is the best in the entire universe! Everything is perfect and wonderful that he does and is.

  • Comment by iiiiiii on 2016-07-01 22:09:12

    I listened to the talk "You alone are loyal" on Friday morning. This is the very best thing I have heard in a long time. I thought it was a wonderful talk. That is the point. And staying loyal to him, although man who cannot see judges us wrongly. Almost always.

  • Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2016-06-01 21:19:15

    Thanks for the preview. Fast work. The title did rather indicate just what sort of loyalty was being pushed, so it came as no real surprise. On the upholding Jehovahs judgements item, We also received a letter when a sister was reinstated inside a year. We wrote back and pointed out how Paul had to encourage the congregation to reinstate the Corinthian sinner (2 Cor 2 5-8) , although it was only a short time, lest he be overwhelmed ...

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-06-01 21:36:06

      This questioning of the elders when a reinstatement is inside the 12-month limit indicates to me that there is direction from higher up. Perhaps it's just oral, but it's consistent for sure.

  • Comment by Anonymous on 2016-06-02 00:55:27

    When the governing body decides it's time to preach this message of judgement. Will they be on the front line as it were with the brothers and sisters or nicely tucked away in the bunkers of bethel? I can only assume bethel is built with underground bunkers. It will no doubt be the cause of alot of pain for all our brothers it could almost be viewed as self inflicted to try and prove a point, as you pointed out a self fulfilling prophecy. Let's just hope Jehovahs day comes before then.

    As for the convention to be honest it was during the start of my awakening last year, that It was truly hard for me to stomach any form of conditioning from the governing body. But I guess this year I'll be a bit more wiser in my approach knowing how to separate the flowers from the weeds.

  • Comment by Em on 2016-06-02 01:02:29

    Truly an amazing post. A lot of time surely went into this. Thank you. Question. Referring to early in the article when you mentioned if we weren't supposed to talk to DF'd people the Bible would say should we understand it when it says not even to say a greeting to someone formerly called a brother? I am struggling with my view on this.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-06-02 02:44:23

      Good question, Em. 1 Corinthians 5:11 refer to a brother who is sinning. However, 2 John 1:10-11 refers to an apostate. The latter does not remain in the teaching of the Christ. (vs. 9) He brings a teaching, but not that of the Christ. (vs. 10) He is a deceiver who is not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, hence he is the antichrist.

      So while a brother who sins can be redeemed, the antichrist, the one who actively tries to deceive others away from the Christ has crossed some line.

      The Organization would take a sister who has had premarital sex or a brother who is a drunkard and lump them in the same category as the antichrist, requiring us to treat them in the same way. But that works against God's purpose. Christ would have us protect ourselves against the antichrist by not even saying "hello" to such a person, but he also wants us to leave the door open to the common sinner who can still be redeemed, so those we treat as men of the nations. A Jew could still speak to a man of the nations or a tax collector. (Mt 18:17)

      • Reply by Em on 2016-06-02 03:10:15

        That makes so much sense! Thank you.

  • Comment by James on 2016-06-02 02:55:02

    Our branch also wrote us on reinstatement of less than a year, I was Coordinator of 'bod' then, we didn't reply as we were ask to avoid reoccurrence. When the CO visited he brought the issue up, I showed him from the OD book that the time lapse for reinstatement was "months, a year, or more", so the reinstatement fell into the category of "months". There was no further comment

  • Comment by roryks on 2016-06-02 05:55:28

    I fully appreciate what you are trying to do here, Meleti. Many people find themselves in a difficult family position - and avoiding the convention altogether becomes tricky.

    On the other hand, this kind of mental gymnastics becomes increasingly tiring. Listening to talks and having to go through an internal switcharound in order to make the material palatable. Getting one or two fine points from a talk about Job is all very well, but what is that in the face of this 3 day barrage?

    Although I am out, my wife is still (zealously) in - and we have two young girls (8 and 11) who usually go along with her. This is the first year that I have felt so discomfitted by the onslaught of indoctrination in the Regional Convention that I feel I am going to have to encourage my daughters not to go. It is too much: The inducement to hate or look down upon others; the groundwork layed for feelings of guilt; the instilling of fear - over and over again in talk after talk. It is not something a young mind ought to be put through. It is not good for their mental health - anyone's mental health, let alone theirs.

    So, I have a difficult conversation to come. The girls will no doubt be upset because they enjoy the spectacle of the Convention - and they may even decide to go anyway. (I don't adhere to the dominant patriarch, and I'm not going to have a farsical scene at the car.) But at least I will have said something, and it might prepare them in some small way not to be too overwhelmed by this tidal wave of dogma.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-06-02 10:57:35

      I understand how you feel about this, roryks. Now that I have access to the outlines and videos, I have no need to go myself. I was considering it with dread because I felt an obligation to write about it. I say 'with dread' because having to sit there quietly when things are said that are not true, or worse, when I know the audience is being manipulated to adopt a mental attitude that is contrary to that of the Christ would be torture. For young minds, the power of this indoctrination is a scary thing to contemplate.

      If your girls do go, you will still have the opportunity to deprogram them by going over all the more troubling parts and getting them to reason on what was said (or shown) in the light of Scripture. The word of God is more powerful than any talk or video of men.

  • Comment by Keaton on 2016-06-02 10:21:04

    Frankly, if some of my comments are harsh well i am sorry, but as Ephesians 5:11 says we need to expose this Evil Nonsense. And yes I said that, this convention is the worst one ever, or the best one which I will explain later. Here are my points of this Nonsense.

    1. The Great tribulation videos, Wow!!!! No Really Wow, even the most Cynical person which i am not calling anyone, really am not, but nobody could see this coming of what is happening in those videos, or could we. If you really Analyze the last Few Years and if you really paid attention to all the Nonsense JW organization is printing, you could see this coming, the whole overlapping generation getting better explained [ no not really] , the Whole Assyrians been a antitype for a soon future war aka Great tribulation, and of course Listening No Matter what in the Future, and even Now remember Morris just Obey if you want gods Blessing, Nice!!! Thanks for your help... Not!!

    2. In all the Great Tribulation Videos, which I loved they Purposely don't tell you until Half way through, I love how they mention Yahshua [ aka Jesus] I mean they mention him I believe 3 times in One video, but mostly on The Big J , and oh yeah Organization got mentioned just as many times his Son. Nice so I guess Titus 2:13 [ we can debate if Yahshua is that Great God or Not , but it says until we wait for our Savior the Messiah ] is just a fluke, and heck the Bible ends with Yahshua to come fast, but I guess putting your faith on a Organization is the best thing.

    3. Yes changing our Good News to Judgement, wait don't they already do that, they go and try to break down all other religions when they preach, let's be honest they want people to question there beliefs but do that to there own.....Oh No!! And also don't they already Judge all there own members from wearing tight pants to getting married to a good brother who is Really good in the so called truth, But sure makes sense to me.

    4. This Kevin who did not Go out on Service and also you know did not tell his coworkers the Jw good news, well he let the fear of man consume him, wait what religion tell people not to Disagree with the Go.....Excuse me the Magnificent Seven of the GB because if you do you will get a meeting in the Backoffice, heck you will get one if you don't turn in time, you know your work time sheet of Preaching. Oh yeah the Fear of men, really, and you got to love there preparing to public witnessing one guy is loading the cart with Bibles, wait I have never and I say never seen a cart witnessing with bibles, i mean unless you call what does the bible Really teach there bible.

    5. And of course the finale you know when evil world comes and trys to recuse the Witnesses... wait this is not what happens, whoops, wrong video, oh yeah I remember I assume cops or swat team members go and attack the JWs. Yeah this ain't a Prophecy I don't know what is. Look even in the outline of these videos they have the Nerve to say Well we don't really know what is gonna happen during the Great Tribulation, ....Really, so you just wasted Nearly 25 minutes and you know the people donation money to make these videos and you have the Gall to say well we don't know is gonna happen. I am sorry but that is a slap to People's Faces, and really talking down and treating the people as infants.

    6. Now unto the Shunning Video's or talks or what ever you want to call them, in one talk they Mention apostates and how in Moses day they were killed, now really why they need to go there, cause they want to mess with peoples head in a evil way, wait so disfellowshipped people are apostates, OK , what!! And of course in one Video they go to Aaron Sons and how Yahweh killed them...OK, what does this have to do with disfellowshipped people, oh I get it to make people feel this is what God's judgment is. Even if you are you know thrown out of Jw religion you know you can still make a Appeal, but I guess Aaron Sons forgot to do that.

    7. Also in the talk after the video they mention Inactive jws and how to also limit contact with them, I thought Jw could Fade did not GB member Jackson say that almost a year ago in the Royal Commission.... Ah!!! New Light, that pesky Proverbs 4:18.

    8. That Video of the Child and his violin and his dad saying you know don't make a career out of it, wait did not the Recent singer Prince give a reported nearly a million dollars to the Organization , I mean it was reported a few weeks ago, and wait don't Jw also have there own Orchestra ....yup.

    9. Let's get to the Yahshua videos , I love the Part where I guess they are pulling from Acts 1:6-10, and they [ the Apostles ] asked Yahshua if he was gonna restore the Kingdom to Israel at that time, he of course told them it is not them to know the times, but wait did we not just a 25 minute of the Great tribulation... Right. Anyway the Master hugs everyone and starts to Say May Jehovah Bless You All, ....No really he says Jehovah 2 times, wait where did he say that, No really where, Hold on a second there is no Greek text of the New Testament that has our Heavenly Father Name, and of course his Son used Jehovah even if that name did not come into existence to about a 1,000 plus years, but he used it twice and not Yahweh, or wait now I see it In my bible... Man things are so off the Rails.

    To sum it up the Jw Organization is getting freaked out with this royal commission and maybe a new legal thing set to happen in England later this year. Really is not Interesting that a Loyalty Convention a Year After the Famous Royal Commission Hearing's, and all this Fear and Losing Tactics the Organization is using.

    It feels like 1975 all over Again.

    May Yahweh our Heavenly Loving Father and his Mighty Son Yahshua be with you all

    Love from Keaton

  • Comment by Yehorakam on 2016-06-02 16:53:48

    This convention seems like a desperate "last ditch" attempt to maintain control, in view of the increasing number of people that are becoming disillusioned or hurt by their "un-Christ-like" policies and false teachings. Their fear of losing control and losing numbers reminds me of the chief priests and Pharisees trying to 'save their nation' (John 11:47-50). They were willing to get rid of an innocent man as collateral damage so as to 'maintain control.' They lost their nation and status anyways.

    This program likely conveys the same idea: that the GB of today are willing to lose or get rid of thousands that have innocently questioned policies and teachings that are not supported by scripture, and consider them as collateral damage so as to 'save their nation.' They consider that action as being loyal to God, just as Saul considered killing true Christians as a loyalty to God. How misguided they really are! Who do they think they are to set policies on forgiveness? If the elders refuse to forgive a sinner, what gives them the right to prevent others in the congregation from extending it? (Luke 6:8,10; 7:39,44-48). As I have discovered, the elders can some times be the LAST ones to forgive and everyone is waiting on them to make their move. Jesus never waited on anyone. Neither should we be waiting on someone else to forgive, if their is a basis for it and our heart moves us in that direction.

    I can also confirm that it happens quite often that there is ONE brother sitting at the Service desk that reviews the recommendation for reinstatement. In some cases he will write the reinstatement committee to express his displeasure should the 3 appointed "judges" on the committee wish to lovingly show forgiveness a little earlier than the one year mark. He knows almost nothing of the case and perhaps the hours of tears and testimony the sinner may have layed out before the committee. But for some unexplainable reason, by just reading a small paragraph on the form for re-instatement, HE alone understands the situation and is the better judge sitting in an office in Bethel and has the authority to question any decision made by the body of elders because 'Jehovah is directing him.' PLEASE, if you are an elder in the sad situation of having to judge the life of another (something that Christ does not ask us to do), and you are considering reinstatement, have the courage to forgive as Jesus did and the courage to tell the one anonymous brother at Bethel to back off and respect the decision of 3 grown men to forgive. Do not think that the letters that come from Bethel have been divinely inspired, or written by a whole committee of men that have read the letter, prayed about it, meditated on it for a week and then wrote you back. There is usually just ONE brother that responds after a brief review of the details. He is a "policy man" and entrusted with questioning elders if it appears policies are not being followed. Everyone will do much better if they let the HS guide them to the right decision to forgive independently, instead of doing what they're told by people so distanced from the situation, they'd be lucky to even remember the name of the sinner or his favorite Bible account.

    Knowing what the theme, tone and some of the hidden motives for the assembly are, it is unlikely I will attend. It will only result in stirring up my sadness of the way things are done. That will likely turn to anger, something I don't want. Christ and my Father know of my sadness. I will let them express the necessary anger at the right time for it.

    The GB will be in for a shock when they discover that there will be no "survival as a group" during the GT. Not even individual anointed Christians have a guarantee they will not die. There will be group of anointed that survive until the 7th trumpet, and they will be changed. They are the ones that "come out of the great tribulation." Their coming out of the great tribulation results in them serving before God's throne in heaven and IN God's temple (a heavenly one) day and night (not some stretched version of serving in an "earthly courtyard"). Everyone else will have suffered untimely deaths due to Satan coming down with great anger and the following plagues that are poured out on this earth. There will be no escape for groups huddled in basements. It is much like the priests and princes of Jerusalem that convinced people that staying in Jerusalem would be better and result in salvation because God would not forsake his people in Jerusalem. God's word was not with them and it was a masacre, both the first time and the second time. His instructions were with Jeremiah who was neither a priest, nor a prince. Even now to talk about it, it creates a sadness in me that the GB are doing just what the princes of Jerusalem did and it will be a masacre. They have said: "Stay with us and you'll be safe." That is not what guarantees salvation. Jehovah has not spoken with them, and he will not speak with them except through an appointed prophet...someone else.

    'False prophets is what they are. When their word does not come true, will they not know it?'

    Thank you Meleti for dedicating so much time to complete a well prepared analysis and scrutiny of the program in the light of clear Bible principles. Your articles are a demonstration of the depth of your interest and love to help people 'carefully examine the scriptures daily to see whether these things are so.'

    Much love,

  • Comment by Dajo on 2016-06-03 00:03:46

    Meleti, your analysis is simply superior to any other. Your ability to stay balanced and realistically objective is something I am trying hard to do.
    I am mixed up and still on a boe, however I am also gaining a measure of deep peace and caution as I work through this situation Ive found myself in.
    I have 2 other people I can talk with and who know what is going on - my wife and elder son are concerned about me and there is great strain. (they are not the 2 I can talk to)
    I have seen the manipulative videos and they are bad to the bone. As you said the power of light, the eye, working on the mind etc is indisputable.
    Someone's post on ddt once said it is rule by FOG. Fear, Obligation and Guilt.
    In times like these we need a plan, a strategy - mine is to be "as cautious as a serpent..."

  • Comment by lazarus on 2016-06-04 04:35:24

    Excellent Review Meleti!! It looks like the brother's in the Org...will either go along with the current policy,on shunning inactive ones, regardless whether it's scriptual or not (of course they'll believe it's scriptual) or find themselves as outcasts or be view as mentally diseased if they question any of the Wt new revised policies! very sad! Unfortunately the GB has the power in this org and are directing all matters going ahead of Jesus Headship!

    However, faith and loyalty has its own reward..and not always from men...for us it's Christ and Jehovah.

    There's a lot to take in, just off the top of your wrote from the opening address.

    “Unlike disloyal Satan, who focuses on the negative, we loyally defend such ones and never speak ill of them"

    Good observation you make on this . As the expression goes,
    "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil"? Or as Shultz would say from Hogans heroes" I know Nothing"

    jehovahs blessing!

  • Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2016-06-06 13:02:05

    Reply to Dajo. Yes I feel the same as you, mixed up and like you I am still on the boe, although it is getting to be harder all the time We definitely need someone to talk to, just to preserve sanity. How Meliti does so well shows a real perseverence and love for the the truth. That is what most of us are on this site for, because we love the truth. It is hard though to know whether the GB are avoiding truths or are convinced they are correct. This weeks WT on Jepthah was a case in point. I believe their interpretation of Judges 11 31 was probably correct, but loads of commentators take it literally. The trouble is on so many other subjects, there is inadequate reasoning and we are basically told to like it or lump it. Don't forget Daniel 12 4b - many will rove about and the true knowledge will become abundant - oh for the days when this is the case.

  • Comment by lazarus on 2016-06-07 05:57:03

    Disfellowshipping !! I watch the video and was put off actually and with this new policy even more so!! I wish I could understand their reasoning on this back in 1952, when this policy was introduced! Why why why? Because in 1947 it was unscriptural, brother Russel wrote in the Wtower"Rather, like the church of Rome their ["Religious leaders of today"] influence is exerted to restrain investigation within the sectarian limits. With the implied threat of disfellowship, they urge their ministers and students not to search continually for truth, but to accept the voice of their sect as infallible." Watchtower 1887 Apr p.923

    J.F.Rutherford continued this policy and viewpoint as evidenced in the following article.

    "The great adversary is wily, and at all times is quick to appeal to passion. He persuades some that they must take a radical stand against some secular work or activity, and to proceed at once to disfellowship others who cannot conscientiously take this same stand. Somehow they seem to think that their radical stand entitles them in a very special sense to divine favour and blessing. his attitude leads them to violate principle in various ways: (1) By judging and condemning others who do not see as they do; (2) By refusing to fellowship those who still believe in the ransom, the restitution, the high calling." Watchtower 1919 Feb 1 p.6385
    As so did Knorr in 1947-So it's these 5 years. 1947-1952..

    You have 3 Presidents, who think it's unscriptural then you have according to the latest changes as of 1919 when the F& D slave aka GB was appointed now officially Gods Channel saying its unscriptural !!! It's so damaging this policy and even dangerously bordering on a cult like status along with these Sunday's end game Bunker Video's scenario's

    Anyway I'm sticking to truth (as in gods word) and I know I need to be careful, as these things get me fired up.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-06-07 21:23:42

      Great references, Lazarus. Thanks!

  • Comment by GodsWordIsTruth on 2016-06-13 14:45:21

    Just a few lines to say that I appreciate the work that you do! This article is timely and thanks be to our God that it is readily available and your site is easily searchable.

    I have no doubt in my mind that the "fateful" slave believes they are tightening the whip. I believe there's life in the org. The Spirit is calling those ones that belong to Father. I pray in the name of Jesus the Spirit begans a sanctifying work in the hearts of all God's people who are caught the chain of idolatry in all so called religions.

    I'm shocked. I really am. I always envisioned a Bunker but this is entering dangerous territory.

    The JW's should be on cult watch just off this video alone. And yes the police will storm their bunkers as they should !

    This is bananas. Seriously. No one should attend this convention. It is crazy and idolatrous. There's not enough "good" in this program to balance the "spirit" or spirits that are driving this madness.

    I plead with anyone who is thinking about attending to NOT attend! Please ask the Father if that is where he wants you as your convention approaches!

    Thanks Meleti for persevering in the walk that our faithful God has called you too.


    BTW the door was open the whole time before the storm troopers came. That's a huge but delightful blunder. God didn't shut the door on their proverbial Ark apparently.

    The Spirit says that the door is open !!!

  • Comment by iiiiiii on 2016-07-02 22:56:55

    Yes, they say you are proud if you dont accept the viewpoint of these proud men who will not listen to bible truth..
    Yes, they command you to be absolutely holy in every thought, but are not willing to touch this command with one of their fingers, the organization being rife with the good ol boy network of winking at and covering up each others sins.
    Yes, the field has both wheat and weeds. At Bethel there were far far more weeds.

    Jesus is the master and his words are to be kept and heeded. Unless you have some other master.

    Luke 12:33K
    33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

    Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them
    And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

    And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

    Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
    Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?

    And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

    You may not want to sell what you have. You may think you know better than Jesus. But YOU will be proved false, and will walk in shame to the lower seat.

    But God's judgements are coming, and the wicked will hear and feel them before they are to be destroyed. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
    And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

  • Comment by iiiiiii on 2016-07-04 10:16:42

    Does anyone know who wrote the talk "Jehovah alone is loyal", from the 2016 convention?
    The one who delivered it definitely had God's spirit on him, and this talk was like listening to God himself for me . I was sure after hearing this, that God indeed has someone else in this organization who indeed is an anointed Son of God. For we all experience the same sort of tribulations. It was like speaking to another human being for the first time in years for me. My friend, , my true friend, my companion, who I hadnt seen for years.
    Whoever wrote this is also suffering even as David did, and I suspect he is suffering in silence, and keeping his lips closed about so many things, just to be able to stay in the organization, in order to put such wonderful talks a out as this one.
    It made me lift up my head to claim my real position before Jehovah, and above the WT society, who has been the actual source of so much trouble and yes, persecution for me..
    No, I despise intellectual pride. It is God himself who lifted up my head..

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In this video we will continue our analysis of the gaslighting methods used by the Governing Body to induce a hypnotic grip on the hearts and minds of Jehovah’s Witnesses. This time we’ll be covering a talk delivered by Gage Fleegle on called…

[This contributed letter does not necessarily reflect all the views of our community. We post it here as a service to those who seek to worship God "in spirit and in truth" (John 4:20-24)] AN OPEN LETTER TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES…