Re-establishing the Christian Congregation: What Constitutes Honorable Marriage?

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When we speak of re-establishing the Christian Congregation, we are not speaking of setting up a new religion.  Quite the contrary.  We are speaking about returning to the form of worship that existed in the first century—a form largely unknown in this day and age.  There are thousands of Christian sects and denominations around the world from the ultra-large, like the Catholic Church, to the one-off local offshoot of some fundamentalist denominational.  But one thing that they all seem to have in common is that there is someone who leads the congregation and who enforces a set of rules and a theological framework which all must adhere to if they wish to remain in association with that particular congregation.  Of course, there are some completely non-denomination groups.  What governs them?  The fact a group calls itself non-denominational doesn’t mean it is free from the basic problem that has hounded Christianity virtually since its inception: the tendency of men who take over and eventually treat the flock as their own.  But what about groups that go to the other extreme and tolerate all manner of belief and behavior?  A kind of “anything goes” form of worship.

The path of the Christian is the path of moderation, a path that walks between the rigid rules of the Pharisee and the wanton licentiousness of the libertarian.  It is not an easy road, because it is one built not on rules, but on principles, and principles are hard because they require us to think for ourselves and to take responsibility for our actions.  Rules are so much easier, aren’t they?  All you have to do is to follow what some self-appointed leader tells you to do.  He takes responsibility.  This is, of course, a trap.  Ultimately, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God and answer for our actions.   The excuse, “I was only following orders,” just won’t cut it then.

If we are going to grow to the measure of stature that belongs to the fullness of the Christ, as Paul urged the Ephesians to do (Ephesians 4:13) then we have to start to exercise our minds and hearts.

In the course of publishing these videos, we plan to pick some common situations that arise from time to time and that require us to make some decisions.  I won’t lay down any rules, because that would be presumptuous of me, and it would be the first step on the path to human rule.  No man should be your leader; only the Christ.  His rule is based on principles he has laid down which when combined with a trained Christian conscience, guide us down the right path.

For example, we might wonder about voting in political elections; or whether we can celebrate certain holidays; like Christmas or Halloween, whether we can commemorate someone’s birthday or Mother’s Day; or what would constitute in this modern world an honorable marriage.

Let’s start with that last one, and we’ll cover the others in future videos.  Again, we aren’t looking for rules, but how to apply Bible principles so as to gain the approval of God.

The writer of Hebrews counselled: “Let marriage be honorable among all, and let the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge sexually immoral people and adulterers.” (Hebrews 13:4)

Now that may seem pretty straightforward, but what if a married couple with kids start associating with your congregation and after a time you learned that they’ve been together for 10 years, but never legalized their marriage before the state?  Would you consider them to be in an honorable marriage or would you label them as fornicators?

I’ve asked Jim Penton to share some research into this topic which will aid us to determine what principles to apply to make a determination that is pleasing to our Lord.  Jim, would you care to speak on this?

The whole subject of marriage is a very complex one, as I know how troubling it has been in the Jehovah’s Witnesses and their community. Note that under Rutherford’s 1929 Higher Powers doctrine, the Witnesses paid little attention to secular law. During prohibition there was a lot of Witness rum-running between Toronto and Brooklyn and, also, Witnesses who entered into consensual marriages were often regarded as very faithful to the organization. Curiously, however, in 1952 Nathan Knorr decided by fiat that any couple who had sexual relations before having their marriage solemnized by a representative of the secular state would be disfellowshipped despite the fact that this went contrary to the 1929 doctrine which was not abandoned until the mid-sixties.

I should mention, however, that the Society made one exception. They did this in 1952.  It was that if some JW couple lived in a country that required legal marriage by a certain religious organization, then the JW couple could simply declare that they would marry before their local congregation. Then, only later, when the law was changed, were they required to obtain a civil marriage certificate.

But let us take a broader look at the question of marriage. First and foremost, all marriage amounted to in ancient Israel was that the couple had something like a local ceremony and went home and consummated their marriage sexually. But that changed in the high middle ages under the Catholic Church. Under the sacramental system, marriage became a sacrament that must be solemnized by a priest in holy orders. But when the Reformation took place, everything changed again; secular governments took over the business of legalizing marriages; first, to protect property rights, and second, to protect children from bastardy.

Of course, marriage in England and many of its colonies was controlled by the Church of England well into the nineteenth century. For example, two of my great grandparents had to marry in Upper Canada in the Anglican Cathedral in Toronto, despite the fact that the bride was a Baptist. Even after Confederation in 1867 in Canada, each province had the power to grant the right to solemnize marriage to various churches and religious organizations, and others not. Significantly, Jehovah’s Witnesses were only allowed to solemnize marriages in a few provinces after World War II, and much, much later in Quebec. So, as a boy, I remember how many Jehovah Witness couple had to travel vast distances to get married in the United States. And in the Depression and during World War II that was often impossible, particularly when the Witnesses were under total ban for nearly four years. Thus, many simply “shacked up” together, and the Society didn’t mind.

Marriage laws have been greatly different in various places. For instance, in Scotland, couples could long be married simply by stating an oath before a witness or witnesses. That was why English couples crossed the border into Scotland for generations. Often too, the ages of marriage were very low. My maternal grandparents tracked many miles from western Canada to Montana in 1884 to be married in a civil marriage. He was in his early-twenties, she was thirteen and a half. Interestingly, her father’s signature is on their marriage license showing his consent to their marriage. So, marriage in various places has been very, very varied.

In ancient Israel, there was no requirement to register before the state.  At the time of Joseph’s marriage to Mary that was the case.  In fact, the act of an engagement was tantamount to marriage, but this was a mutual contract between the parties, not a legal act.  Thus, when Joseph learned Mary was pregnant, he decided to divorce her secretly because he “did not want to make her a public spectacle”. This would only have been possible if their engagement/marriage contract had been kept private up to that point. If it had been public, then there would have been no way to keep the divorce secret.  If he divorced her in secret—something the Jews allowed a man to do—she would have been judged a fornicator, rather than an adulterer.  The former required her to marry the child’s father, whom Joseph undoubtedly assumed to be a fellow Israelite, while the latter was punishable by death.  The point is that all this was effected without the involvement of the state.

We want to keep the congregation clean, free of adulterers and fornicators.  However, what constitutes such conduct?  Clearly a man who hires a prostitute is engaged in immoral activity.  Two people who have casual sex are also clearly engaged in fornication, and if one of them is married, in adultery.  But what of someone who, like Joseph and Mary, covenant before God to marry, and then live their lives in accord with that promise?

Let’s complicate the situation.  What if the couple in question does so in a country or province where common law marriage is not recognized legally?  Clearly, they cannot take advantage of protections under the law that protect property rights; but not availing oneself of legal provisions is not the same things as violating the law.

The question becomes: Can we judge them as fornicators or can we accept them in our congregation as a couple who have been married before God?

Acts 5:29 tells us to obey God rather than men.  Romans 13:1-5 tells us to obey the superior authorities and not stand in opposition to them.  Obviously, a vow made before God has more validity than a legal contract that is made before any worldly government. All the worldly governments in existence today will pass away, but God will endure forever.  So, the question becomes: Does the government require that two people living together get married, or is it optional?  Would getting married legally actually result in a violation of the law of the land?

It took me a long time to bring my American wife into Canada in the 1960s, and my younger son had the same problem in bringing his American wife into Canada in the 1980s. In each case, we were legally married in the states before beginning the immigration process, something which is now against US law to do.  If we had married before the Lord, but not before the civil authorities we would have been in compliance with the law of the land and greatly facilitated the immigration process after which we could have gotten legally married in Canada, which was a requirement at the time since we were Jehovah’s Witnesses governed by the rules of Nathan Knorr.

The point of all this is to demonstrate that there are no hard and fast rules, as we once taught to believe by the Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses.  Instead, we must evaluate each situation on the basis of the circumstances guided by the principles laid down in scripture, foremost of which is the principle of love.

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  • Comment by Zacheus on 2020-08-12 01:17:00

    Once again I have learned that the wt rules are not given by the holy spirit but by the whims of the gb in this case Knorr.
    Rutherford is alleged to have had a shared marriage..(!)

    • Reply by Chet on 2020-08-13 19:24:02

      From what I can tell, Rutherford was no choir boy. The legends of his alcohol abuse are epic. He was contentious and combative. I can’t imagine him feeling particularly bound by any moral code, beyond whatever he desired at the moment.

      Of course he was a nice guy at heart. When he thought that the faithful men of old were soon to be resurrected, he not only directed the expenditure of other people’s money to prepare a mansion, but he was even so considerate as to move there and live in the house so it would be ready when they arrived. A fellow can’t get any nicer than that. How many people would be willing to move to a lovely climate and live in a mansion at someone else’s expense? He even used other people’s money to buy a 16 cylinder Cadillac for the faithful men’s use, and was kind enough to drive it himself, insuring that it was in top condition. What a guy! :)

      Knorr probably was sincere in his attempts to reform matters, albeit somewhat a victim of the thinking imposed by the Organization. His rule that polygamous marriages must be dissolved and that the husband had to stay with his first wife seems to lack any insight into the affect this would have on the other wives and their offspring. I can only imagine that there were plenty of people left without means of support. Most Christian religions have been tolerant towards polygamous converts, not encouraging the practice, but allowing people in such situations to live out their lives without disruption. I’m no fan of polygamy, but casting away wives and children doesn’t strike me as being appropriate.

      I’m no fan of fornication and believe that the Bible is very plain on the matter, but the near obsession with the subject which was so prevalent among Witnesses doesn’t strike me as being a sound approach. I have seen more than one JW that seemed to be harmed by this obsession. I believe that many young JW men found the subject more tempting because of the “forbidden fruit” effect. One could hardly blame a young Witness for feeling that the temptation would eventually win out, leading them to give up in their efforts to remain chaste.

      In many ways, it reminds me of the efforts some in the nation of Israel made to build a wall around the Torah. Instead of accepting the boundaries God chose to set, they erected a fence of manmade rules and restricted people far beyond what was in the law. Many Witnesses have likewise been forced to live with manmade rules which go far beyond what is recorded in scripture. I remember courtship being an almost impossible maze of rules and pressure to marry quickly in order to avoid the temptation of fornication. Sadly, these rushed courtships have contributed to a fairly high divorce rate among Witnesses.

      Jehovah knew what he was doing when He inspired the Bible. The Bible is reliable and the boundaries set within are reasonable and realistic. Manmade ideas can’t compete with inspired scripture.

  • Comment by Wanderer on 2020-08-12 11:32:30

    Great subject! In most of sub-saharan Africa, "customary" marriage is the norm - i.e. marriage contracted with the full knowledge of both families and the larger society. What could be more honorable?

    Anyway. Really enjoyed this intro. Thanks.

    W.

  • Comment by Jack on 2020-08-12 12:00:33

    Luk 12:13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. 

    Luk 12:14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? 

    Joh 4:16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither. 

    Joh 4:17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: 

    Joh 4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. 

    Like the Lord I have not been appointed judge or divider over disputes neither do I judge personal relationships. Each man and woman stands before their Father as adults not before me.

    The Lord did not tell the woman to run and fix her situation and the editor of John let it remain silent.

    So do I. I do not judge a man's personal relationships. That is between him and our Father.

  • Comment by Warp Speed on 2020-08-12 13:58:15

    Justification?

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2020-08-12 15:57:40

      Hi Warp Speed. Good to hear from you again.

    • Reply by Jack on 2020-08-13 12:38:00

      ?

  • Comment by Jack on 2020-08-13 14:30:14

    There is no Peter to build a 21st century, 1st century, Christian congregation.

    No Apostles.

    We have what Christ left us and that is enough. We stand on his teachings and live accordingly.

    • Reply by Jack on 2020-08-13 14:48:40

      Christ calls us to peace.

  • Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2020-08-13 15:04:42

    Thank you Eric. I really appreciated your explanation about Joseph and Mary. I just had not seen that so clearly before.

    As you seem to conclude, one set of rules does not fit all. But it won't stop some people trying to make them fit. (Jeremiah 10;23)

    • Reply by Jack on 2020-08-13 15:24:06

      Christ made it very simple.

      (Matthew 19:16-19) . . .Now, look! a certain one came up to him and said: “Teacher, what good must I do in order to get everlasting life?” 17 He said to him: “Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is that is good. If, though, you want to enter into life, observe the commandments continually.” 18 He said to him: “Which ones?” Jesus said: “Why, You must not murder, You must not commit adultery, You must not steal, You must not bear false witness, 19 Honor [your] father and [your] mother, and, You must love your neighbor as yourself.”

      (Matthew 22:34-40) . . .After the Pharisees heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they came together in one group. 35 And one of them, versed in the Law, asked, testing him: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

  • Comment by Chet on 2020-08-13 18:48:46

    The subject bores deep into just what is marriage. I had a coworker whom was not legally married, but was a devoted partner and a good parent. How could I judge this person, when so many Witnesses of my acquaintance got divorced, hoping that their ex spouse would free them for remarriage.

    As I see it, the matter comes down to intentions. I’m certainly not interested in playing the field or in the practice of “serial monogamy”. My desire is to live the moral standards of the Bible and I have always done so. But these days, marriage is not what it used to be, and I’ve seen more than one case where persons claiming to be Christian have turned the dissolution of a marriage into a free for all of greed, back-stabbing and even theft.

    One person of my acquaintance was served divorce papers unexpectedly, only to find out that his wife had transferred all of their retirement money into her name exclusively. He was left with nearly nothing. BTW, his wife learned these tactics from other JW women. Of course the local elders were uninterested in the matter, beyond stripping him of his position as an elder. The wife pulled off a heist and faced no legal or ecclesiastical consequences.

    Some time back, I explained to a old friend that people whom cohabit may not be doing so because of moral laxness, but because of financial prudence. The friend was incredulous, but I stand by my words. Were I to desire to find a spouse, the legalities and financial aspect of matters would be established in binding contract, and there is no way whatsoever that I would ever enter into a secular arrangement which made me responsible for debts incurred by someone else. I’ve already learned that lesson the hard way.

  • Comment by Ilya on 2020-08-18 11:55:48

    6 months ago there was the same theme article at russian exjw site. May be it will be interesting - use google translator.

    https://www.nekudaidti.com/%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B/%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA-%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B4/

  • Comment by Alithia on 2020-08-20 22:37:56

    I think this presentation is a wonderful background for Christian freedom where Paul talked about it at Galatians chapter 5 . Christian freedom is different from being bound by rules, prohibitions and laws. It is founded on faith and love alone; in this way a Christian can spontaneously and freely express himself towards God in the way that he acts towards his fellow man.

    I don't think there could be a better situation than a marriage relationship where an individual can be tested as to the degree of love and faith that one has for God. Marriage is so private, where only the couple really knows the truth about the treatment that they receive, the respect, the love the cherishing and the display of the fruits of the spirit by each spouse.

    However I do not propose that any governmental requirements should simply be ignored, I am saying however that merely ticking the boxes so to speak does not constitute a legitimate marriage.

    As born out from the many comments here and I think we all have plenty of experiences that we can relate, there are many who are trapped in marriages within the organisation of Jehovah's Witnesses simply based on legalistic elements.

    If this is the case I do not think this is an arrangement that God would approve of.

  • Comment by Zeek on 2020-08-24 10:47:54

    Thanks for the information!
    Could someone please elaborate on what the specific immigration issues were that Jim mentioned regarding a Canadian getting married outside of Canada to a foreigner?
    Specifically, what is the best way to facilitate that immigration process to minimize delays in bringing one's (non-US) foreign future-spouse to reside in Canada.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2020-08-24 18:34:41

      Those laws and rules change frequently so I would recommend you contact the government of the province you are in to determine what is the best way to proceed.

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