Kwinxalenye ye1 yalo mxholo, savavanya iZibhalo zesiHebhere (iTestamente Endala) ukubona ukuba zatyhila ntoni ngo Nyana kaThixo, uLogos. Kwinxalenye eseleyo, siza kuhlolisisa iinyani ezahlukeneyo ezatyhilwa ngoYesu kwiZibhalo zamaKristu.
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Njengokuba ukubhalwa kweBhayibhile kwakusondela esiphelweni, uYehova waphefumlela umpostile uYohane owalupheleyo ukuba atyhile iinyaniso ezithile ezibalulekileyo ngobomi bukaYesu bangaphambi kokuba ngumntu. UJohn watyhila igama lakhe "nguLizwi" (uLogos, ngeenjongo zokufunda) kwindinyana yokuqala yevangeli yakhe. Kuyathandabuzeka ukuba ungafumana isicatshulwa seZibhalo esixoxwe ngakumbi, sahlalutywa kwaxoxwa ngaso kunoYohane 1: 1,2. Nantsi isampulu yeendlela ezahlukeneyo eziguqulelwe ngayo:
“Ekuqalekeni ube ekho uLizwi, waye uLizwi ekuye uThixo, waye uLizwi enguThixo. Lowo wayekunye noThixo. ”- INguqulelo Yehlabathi Elitsha YeZibhalo Ezingcwele - ye-NWT
“Xa ihlabathi laqalayo, uLizwi wayesele ekho. ULizwi wayekuThixo, kwaye imeko yeLizwi yayifanayo nesimo sikaThixo. ULizwi wayekho ekuqalekeni kuThixo. ”- ITestamente eNtsha ebhalwe nguWilliam Barclay
Ngaphambi kokuba kudalwe umhlaba, uLizwi wayesele ekho; wayekunye noThixo, wayefana noThixo. Ukususela ekuqaleni uLizwi wayekuThixo. ”- Good News Bible in Today's English Version - TEV
“Ekuqalekeni ube ekho uLizwi, waye uLizwi ekuye uThixo, waye uLizwi enguThixo. Lowo wayekunye noThixo kwasekuqaleni. ”(Yohane 1: 1 American Standard Version - ASV)
“Ekuqalekeni ube ekho uLizwi, waye uLizwi ekuye uThixo, waye uLizwi enguThixo ngokupheleleyo. ULizwi wayekunye noThixo kwasekuqalekeni. ”(Yohane 1: 1 NET Bible)
“Ekuqalekeni ngaphambi kwexesha lonke” wayekho uLizwi (uKristu), uLizwi wayekuThixo, uLizwi wayenguThixo uqobo. Wayekhona ngokuvela kuThixo. ”- IAmplified New Testament Bible - AB
Uninzi lweenguqulelo ezithandwayo zeBhayibhile zibonisa ukuguqulelwa kweAmerican Standard Version ukunika umfundi wesiNgesi ukuba aqonde ukuba uLogos nguThixo. Ezimbalwa, njengee-NET kunye neebhayibhile, zigqitha ngaphaya kombhalo wokuqala kumzamo wokususa konke ukuthandabuza ukuba uThixo neLizwi bayinto enye. Kwelinye icala le-equation-encinci ebonakalayo phakathi kweenguqulelo zangoku-yi-NWT ene- “… uLizwi wayenguThixo”.
Isiphithiphithi esibonelela ngakumbi umfundi wokuqala wexesha lokuqala lebhayibhile siyabonakala kwinguqulelo eboniswe yi IBHAYIBHILE, kuba ibuza lo mbuzo: "Kwenzeka njani ukuba uLizwi abe nguThixo ngokupheleleyo aze abe engaphandle kukaThixo ukuze abe kunye noThixo?"
Inyaniso yokuba oku kubonakala ngathi iyaphikisana nengqondo yomntu ayiyenzi ibeyinyani. Sonke sinobunzima ngenyaniso yokuba uThixo akanasiqalo, kuba asinakukuqonda ngokupheleleyo okungapheliyo. Ngaba uThixo wayetyhila ingcamango efanayo exakayo esebenzisa uYohane? Okanye ngaba le ngcamango ivela kumadoda?
Umbuzo uphakama kule nto: Ngaba uLogos nguThixo okanye akunjalo?
Elo nqaku le-Pesky elingenasiphelo
Uninzi luyayigxeka iNguqulelo Yehlabathi Elitsha kuthatho lwayo lwe-JW-centric, ngakumbi ekufakweni kwegama likaThixo kwi-NT kuba alifumaneki nakweyiphi na imibhalo-ngqangi yakudala. Nokuba kungayintoni na, ukuba besinokukugxotha ukuguqulelwa kweBhayibhile ngenxa yomkhethe kwezinye iitekisi, kuya kufuneka sizigxothe zonke. Asifuni kuyekelela kuthi. Ke makhe sihlolisise ukunikezelwa kwe-NWT kuYohane 1: 1 ngokwawo.
Kuyothusa abanye abafundi ukufumanisa ukuba inguqulelo ethi “… uLizwi yayinguThixo” ayiqhelekanga kwi-NWT. Ngapha koko, ezinye Iinguqulelo ezahlukileyo ze70 yisebenzise okanye enye inxulumene ngokuthe ngqo. Nantsi eminye imizekelo:
- 1935 "ULizwi wayenguThixo" - The Bible — An American Translation, nguJohn MP Smith noEdgar J. Goodspeed, eChicago.
- 1955 “Ke uLizwi wayenguThixo” - IThe Authentic New Testament, nguHugh J. Schonfield, eAberdeen.
- 1978 "Kwaye uhlobo olufana nothixo yayinguLogos" -I-Das Evangelium nach Johannes, ebhalwe nguJohannes Schneider, eBerlin.
- 1822 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” - ITestamente Entsha ngesiGrike nesiNgesi (A. Kneeland, 1822.);
- 1863 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” - Inguqulelo Ebhalwe Ngenguqulelo YeTestamente Entsha (Herman Heinfetter [Umbumbumbulu kaFrederick Parker], 1863);
- 1885 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” - Ingcaciso yeConcise kwiThe Holy Bible (Encinci, 1885);
- 1879 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” -Das Evangelium nach Johannes (J. Becker, 1979);
- 1911 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” - Inguqulelo yeCoptic yeNT (GW Horner, 1911);
- 1958 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” - ITestamente Entsha yeNkosi yethu noMsindisi uYesu Uthambisile ”(JL Tomanec, 1958);
- 1829 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” - IMonotessaron; okanye, Imbali yeVangeli ngokutsho kwabaVangeli abane (JS Thompson, 1829);
- 1975 “Kwaye uLizwi wayenguthixo.” -Das Evangelium nach Johannes (S. Schulz, 1975);
- Ngo-1962, ngo-1979 “'igama yayinguThixo.' Okanye, ngokuthe ngqo, 'yayinguThixo lowo.' ”IiVangeli ezine neSityhilelo (R. Lattimore, 1979)
- I-1975kwaye isithixo (okanye, sohlobo lobuthixo) wayelilizwi”Das Evangelium nach Johnnes, nguSiegfried Schulz, eGöttingen, eJamani
(Enkosi ngokukhethekileyo ku Wikipedia kolu luhlu)
Abaxhasi begama elithi “uLizwi nguThixo” banokuthi aba baguquleli bathathe icala ngokuchaza ukuba igama elingenammiselo elithi “a” alikho kwasekuqaleni. Nalu unikezelo lwangaphakathi:
“Ekuqaleni [igama] lalikhona kunye nelizwi lalikho kuthixo. (Yena) wayeqalela kuThixo.
Inokwenzeka njani ininzi ye Abaphengululi beBhayibhile kunye nabaguquleli uyikhumbule loo nto, usenokubuza? Impendulo ilula. Abazange. Akukho nqaku lingenammiselo kwisiGrike. Umguquleli kufuneka ayifake ukuze ihambelane negrama yesiNgesi. Oku kunzima ukucinga ngesithethi esiqhelekileyo esiNgesi. Cinga ngalo mzekelo:
"Kwiveki ephelileyo, uJohn, umhlobo wam, uvukile, wahlamba, watya isitya sokutya okuziinkozo, emva koko wakhwela ibhasi ukuya kuqalisa emsebenzini njengotitshala."
Isandi esingaqhelekanga kakhulu, akunjalo? Nangona kunjalo, unokufumana intsingiselo. Nangona kunjalo, kukho amaxesha esiNgesi apho ngokwenene sifuna ukwahlula phakathi kwezibizo ezichazayo nezingenasiphelo.
Ikhosi emfutshane yeGramari
Ukuba lo mxholwana wenza ukuba amehlo akho aqaqambe, ndiyakuthembisa ukuba ndiza kuyinika imbeko intsingiselo “emfutshane”.
Zintathu iintlobo zezibizo ekufuneka sizazi: ezingapheliyo, zichanekile, zichanekile.
- Isibizo esingapheliyo: "Indoda"
- Isibizo esingapheliyo: "Indoda"
- Isibizo esifanelekileyo: “John”
KwisiNgesi, ngokungafaniyo nesiGrike, simenze uThixo isibizo esifanelekileyo. Ukunikezela nge-1 John 4: 8 sithi, "UThixo uluthando". Siguqule ukuba "nguThixo" ukuba sibizo esifanelekileyo, ngokuyintloko, ligama. Oku akwenziwa ngesiGrike, ke le ndinyana kwi-Interlinear yesiGrike ivela njengo "The Uthixo Luthando".
Ke ngesiNgesi isibizo esifanelekileyo sisibizo. Kuthetha ukuba siyazi ngokuqinisekileyo ukuba sibhekisa kubani. Ukubeka u "a" phambi kwesibizo kuthetha ukuba asiqinisekanga. Sithetha ngokubanzi. Ukuthi, "Uthixo uluthando" akunasiphelo. Ngokusisiseko, sithi, "nawuphi na uthixo uluthando".
Kulungile? Ukuphela kwesifundo segrama.
Indima yomguquleli kukunxibelelana nezinto ezibhalwe ngumbhali ngokuthembekileyo kolunye ulwimi nokuba zinjani na iimvakalelo kunye neenkolelo zakhe.
UkuHanjiswa kweeNtloko kweJohn 1: i-1
Ukubonisa ukubaluleka kwenqaku elingenasiphelo lesiNgesi, masizame isivakalisi ngaphandle kwawo.
Kwincwadi yeBhayibhile kaYobhi, uThixo uboniswa ethetha noSathana onguThixo. ”
Ukuba besingenalo inqaku elingenammiselo kulwimi lwethu, singasenza njani esi sivakalisi ukuze singaniki umfundi ukuba aqonde ukuba uSathana nguThixo? Ukuthatha indlela yethu kumaGrike, sinokwenza oku:
“Kwincwadi yeBhayibhile kaYobhi, le UThixo uboniswa ukuba uthetha noSathana onguThixo. ”
Le yindlela yokubonisa le ngxaki. I-1 okanye i-0. Cima okanye ucime. Ilula kakhulu. Ukuba inqaku elichaziweyo lisetyenzisiwe (1), isibizo sichanekile. Ukuba akukhona (i-0), ke akunakuphela.
Makhe sijonge kuJohn 1: I-1,2 kwakhona ngolu lwazi kwingqondo yamaGrike.
“Ekuqaleni [igama] lalinalo kwaye igama lalinaye le uthixo kunye uthixo yayiligama. (Yona) yayiqala ukubheka le NguThixo. ”
Izibizo ezibini ezichanekileyo zindlwana engenasiphelo. Ukuba uYohane wayefuna ukubonisa ukuba uYesu nguThixo kwaye akangothixo nje, ngewayibhale ngolu hlobo.
“Ekuqaleni [igama] lalinalo kwaye igama lalinaye le uthixo kwaye le uthixo yayiligama. (Yona) yayiqala ukubheka le NguThixo. ”
Ngoku zontathu izibizo zicacile. Akukho mfihlakalo apha. Yigrama nje yesiGrike.
Kuba asithathi indlela yokubini eyahlula phakathi kwezibizo ezichanekileyo nezingenasiphelo, kufuneka sinamathisele inqaku elifanelekileyo. Ke ngoko, uguqulelo oluchanekileyo nolungenamkhethe luye "uLizwi wayenguThixo".
Isizathu esinye soDidaniso
Ukukhetha icala kubangela ukuba abaguquleli abaninzi bahambe ngokuchaseneyo negrama yesiGrike kwaye banike u-John 1: 1 ngesibizo esifanelekileyo uThixo, njengakwi "uLizwi wayenguThixo". Nokuba inkolelo yabo yokuba uYesu unguThixo iyinyani, ayikuthetheleli ukuguqulela uYohane 1: 1 ukuze bahlukane nendlela eyabhalwa ngayo ntlandlolo. Abaguquleli be-NWT, ngelixa begxeka abanye ngokwenza oku, bawela kumgibe ofanayo ngokwabo ngokufaka "uYehova" endaweni ye "Nkosi" kangangezihlandlo ezingamakhulu kwi-NWT Baphikisa ukuba inkolelo yabo igqithisa umsebenzi wabo wokuguqula ngokuthembekileyo okubhaliweyo. Bacinga ukuba bazi ngaphezu kokuba kukho. Oku kubizwa ngokuba sisilungiso sentsingiselo kwaye ngokubhekisele kwilizwi likaThixo eliphefumlelweyo, yinto eyingozi kakhulu ukuzibandakanya kuyo.De 4: 2; I-12: 32; I-Pr 30: 6; IGa 1: 8; Re 22: 18, 19)
Yintoni ekhokelela kule nkolelo? Ngokuyinxenye, ibinzana elisetyenziswe kabini kuYohane 1: 1,2 “ekuqaleni”. Sisiphi isiqalo? UJohn akachazi. Ngaba ubhekisa ekuqaleni kwendalo iphela okanye ekuqaleni kweLogos? Uninzi lukholelwa ukuba yeyokuqala ekubeni uYohane ngokulandelayo ethetha ngokudalwa kwezinto zonke kwi-3.
Oku kuzisa ingxaki yengqondo kuthi. Ixesha yinto eyenziweyo. Akukho xesha njengoko silazi ngaphandle kwendalo ebonakalayo. UJohn 1: 3 uyenza icace into yokuba iiLogos zazisele zikho xa zonke izinto zazidalwa. Ingqiqo ilandela ukuba ukuba kwakungekho xesha ngaphambi kokuba indalo yenziwe kunye neLogos yayinoThixo, iLogos ayinasiphelo, ingunaphakade, kwaye ayinasiqalo. Ukusuka apho kukutsiba okufutshane kwengqondo ukuya kwisigqibo sokuba iLogos kufuneka ukuba inguThixo ngandlela thile okanye ngenye indlela.
Yintoni etyiwayo
Asinakuze sinqwenele ukunikezela kumgibe wokuzikhukhumeza kwengqondo. Ngaphantsi kweminyaka eli-100 eyadlulayo, sayiqhekeza itywina kwimfihlelo enzulu yendalo iphela: ithiyori yobudlelwane. Phakathi kwezinye izinto, sabona okokuqala ukuba iyakwazi ukutshintsha. Sixhotyiswe lolu lwazi sithathela ukuba sicinge ukuba elona xesha linokubakho lelo lelo silaziyo. Icandelo lexesha lendalo ebonakalayo lelona kuphela elinokubakho. Siyakholelwa ke ukuba ekuphela kohlobo lwesiqalo olunokubakho yile nto ichazwa sisithuba / ixesha lethu lokuqhubeka. Sifana nendoda eyazalwa iyimfama efumene ngoncedo lwabantu ababonayo ukuba iyakwazi ukwahlula imibala ngokuthinta. (Olubomvu, umzekelo, uya kuziva efudumele kunombala oluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka ekukhanyeni kwelanga.) Khawufane ucinge ukuba umntu onje, oxhobile ngolu lwazi lutsha, ucinga ukuba uza kuthetha kakhulu ngobume bombala.
Ngokoluvo lwam (ndithobekile, ndiyathemba), konke esikwaziyo ngamazwi kaYohane kukuba iilogo zazikho ngaphambi kwazo zonke izinto ezidaliweyo. Ngaba wayenesiqalo esakhe ngaphambi kwaso, okanye uhlala ekhona? Andikholwa ukuba singatsho ngokuqinisekileyo, nangayiphi na indlela, kodwa ndingayame ngakumbi kumbono wesiqalo. Nasi isizathu.
Amazibulo kwindalo yonke
Ukuba uYehova ebefuna siqonde ukuba uLogos akanasiqalo, ngesele nje watsho njalo. Akukho mzekeliso uza kuwusebenzisa ukusinceda ukuba siqonde ukuba, kuba umbono wento engenasiqalo ungaphaya kwamava ethu. Ezinye izinto ekufuneka simelwe kukuxelelwa kwaye kufuneka sizamkele elukholweni.
Kodwa uYehova akazange asixelele into enjalo ngoNyana wakhe. Endaweni yoko wasinika isafobe esingaphakathi kokuqonda kwethu.
"Ungumfanekiso kaThixo ongabonakaliyo, izibulo kwindalo yonke;" (Col 1: 15)
Sonke siyazi ukuba yintoni izibulo. Kukho iimpawu ezithile ezichaza oko. Utata ukhona. Izibulo lakhe alikho. Utata uvelisa izibulo. Izibulo likho. Ukwamkela ukuba uYehova njengoBawo akapheli xesha, kufuneka sivume kwisimo esithile-nakwinto esingayicingiyo-ukuba uNyana akekho, kuba waveliswa nguYise. Ukuba asikwazi ukufikelela kwisigqibo esisisiseko nesicacileyo, kwakutheni ukuze uYehova asebenzise olu lwalamano lomntu njengesafobe ukusinceda siqonde inyani ephambili ngobunjani boNyana wakhe?[i]
Kodwa ayipheleli apho. UPawulos ubiza uYesu, "owamazibulo kwindalo yonke". Oko kungakhokelela abafundi bakhe baseKolose kwisigqibo esicacileyo sokuba:
- Okuninzi kwakuza kuza kuba izibulo lingokuphela komntwana ozelweyo, ngekhe abe ngowokuqala. Kuqala linani eli-ordinal kwaye ngenxa yoko ithatha iodolo okanye ulandelelwano.
- Okungakumbi okwakulandelayo yayikukuphela kwendalo.
Oku kukhokelela kwisigqibo esingenakuphepheka sokuba uYesu uyinxalenye yendalo. Eyahlukileyo ewe. Yahlukile? Ngokuqinisekileyo. Kodwa kunjalo, indalo.
Yiyo le nto uYesu esebenzisa isifaniso sosapho xa bebonke ubulungiseleli ebhekisa kuThixo njengendoda enye, kodwa njengotata ophambili-uYise, uYise wabo bonke. (UJohn 14: 28; I-20: 17)
Okuphela koThixo ozelweyo
Ngelixa inguqulelo engakhethi cala kaJohn 1: 1 ikwenza kucace ukuba uYesu unguthixo, okt, ayinguye kuphela uThixo oyinyaniso, uYehova. Kodwa, oko kuthetha ntoni?
Ukongeza, kukho ukungangqinelani okubonakalayo phakathi kwabaseKolose 1: 15 embiza ngokuba ulizibulo kunye noJohn 1: 14 embiza ngokuba kuphela komntwana.
Masigcinele le mibuzo kwinqaku elilandelayo.
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[i] Kukho abaphikisanayo nesi sigqibo sicacileyo ngokuqiqa ngelithi ukubhekisa kumazibulo apha kuphawula ubume obukhethekileyo obabunabo kwa-Israyeli, kuba wafumana isabelo esiphindwe kabini. Ukuba kunjalo, hayi indlela engaqhelekanga ngayo ukuba uPawulos awusebenzise lo mzekeliso xa ebhalela iiNtlanga zaseKolose. Ngokuqinisekileyo ngewayebacacisele eli siko lamaJuda, ukuze bangangxami baye kwisiphelo esicace gca somzekeliso. Okwangoku akenzanga, kuba inqaku lakhe lalilula kwaye licacile. Kwakungafuneki ngcaciso.
Kwinjongo yobulungisa ndingakhankanya izinto ezimbalwa: 1. Inqaku likaPhillip Harner kwiJenali yeencwadi zoncwadi lweBhayibhile) libonelela ngokujonga ngokubanzi amathuba phambi kukaJohn ekuvakaliseni igatya lokugqibela likaYohane 1: 1. - kufanelekile ukujongwa. 2. Iinguqulelo ezingama-70 ezicatshulwe njengezivumelana ne-NWT ziyakuthatha indawo yokuba uYesu wayengekho kufutshane noThixo kodwa bayaqonda ukuba ukwakhiwa kwale ndinyana kuthetha okuthile ngomgangatho wakhe yiyo loo nto eyiguqulela ngokuthi "uLizwi wayengokobuthixo" okanye ngokufanayo. Abathethi ngokuba... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiyayithandabuza imo yokwenyani kaYesuchrist. "Igama elithi" thixo ", abanye bathi igama" uthixo "kwindawo yokuqala, ngaphambi kwesenzi esingumlinganiso (ukuba), kwaye ngaphandle kwenqaku elichazayo" u ", lenza eli gama" thixo "isichazi. Ke uguqulelo luzakuba "kwaye igama linemvelo kaThixo", kwaye lingabi "lelokwaphezulu" njengezidalwa zokomoya ezibizwa ngokuba zingelosi nazo zikwaphezulu kodwa asinakutsho ukuba iingelosi zikwimo efanayo YHWH (okanye sinako?), bagqiba kwelokuba "igama" njengoko... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukutolikwa "kwamazibulo" kunye "nonyana wakho okuphela kwamzeleyo 'hayi njengonyana wokuqala ozelwe ngumntu, kodwa njengendlalifa yezikhundla zikaYise, unyana ophambili kubanye abantakwabo, njengo-Ismael noIsake, ukuba mdala ngu-Ismael UIsake wathi kuye: “Ndiyazi ngoku ukuba uyandithanda ngenxa yokuba ungandigcinanga umntwana wakho,” uIsake ubizwa ngokuba "lizibulo lika-Abraham".
Kuyamangalisa! Kulula kakhulu ukuyiqonda ngoku. Umsebenzi obalaseleyo Mzalwana! Ndiqinisekile ukuba izimvo zethu zitshintshiwe ukusukela eli nqaku….
Ukuhamba ngomkhondo ngokuqinisekileyo…. Isiqwenga esihle.
Molo Jannai Col 1 15; 16 Uthetha ngoYesu izibulo kwindalo yonke iVesi 16 kuba zadalelwa kuye zonke izinto emazulwini nasemhlabeni. Ke kubonakala ngathi ku-gen 1; 26 amazwi kaThixo ayebhekisa kuYesu, "masenze umntu ngokomfanekiso wethu" Heb 1; 2 - Yohane 1; 3 Yohane 1 10 Kol 1; 16 Kwanangaphambi kokuba iingelosi zidalwe uYesu wayekhona kwaye Akukho ndawo kuthethwa ngayo kwiingelosi ezinenxaxheba kwindalo. Kodwa ndiyavuma kufanele ukuba yayiyinto evuyisayo yokuba iingelosi zibone iziseko zomhlaba... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Inqaku nje malunga neengelosi-uThixo wayenokumema inkundla yakhe yasezulwini, iingelosi, ukuba zithathe inxaxheba ngandlela ithile ekudalweni koluntu, mhlawumbi kwindima yokudumisa (Yobhi 38: 7), kodwa Yena ngokwakhe uyadala sebenza. Oku kuya kuvumelana no-Isaya 44:24.
Ndicinga ukuba ingxaki kukuba ujonge iGenesis 1: 26 ngombono wokuba uYesu abekhona, ngelixesha ndijongayo ndijonga ukuba akabikho.
Uzoqala ngaphi !!! Ndikhulele "enyanisweni" kwaye kwiminyaka engama-50 emva kokuba iimfundiso zeJW zibethelelekile kum kusenzima ukungazibonakalisi ezo mfundiso kumagqabaza am. Njengo Jw ndafumanisa ukuba sihlalutya ngaphezulu, sitolike, sihlolisise, ukuya kuthi ngenxa yoko siphulukane nomyalezo osisiseko izibhalo ekufuneka zisinike wona. Ke ukuyigcina ilula. U-Thixo (isinye) uthe Masenze (isininzi) senze umntu ngokomfanekiso wethu (wobuninzi). Gen 1; 26 Yabona umntu uye wafana nomnye wethu (isininzi) - kwaye lo mkhabi “ukwazi okuhle kwaye... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Mhlawumbi kwiGenesis 1:26 la mazwi athethwa kwiingelosi ezazibona ubuncinci bemisebenzi kaThixo yokudala. U-Yobhi 38: 4,7 “Wawuphi na xa ndabeka isiseko somhlaba? Ndixelele, ukuba uyaqonda. v ngeli xesha amakhwezi okusa ayevuma kunye, nazo zonke iingelosi zimemelela ngovuyo. (NIV)
Ukubuza nje… qabane lakho eliya ngaphaya kwentloko yam apha. Ndingumsebenzi olula wokwakha. Kufuneka ukuba ufunda iincwadi 24 7 okanye enye into .. ayikwazi ukuyibeka ngamagama alula njengoYesu. .
UMark Christopher, andicingi ukuba iBuzzard ithetha ukuba uYesu ungumntu ezulwini ngokupheleleyo. Ndicinga ukuba kuthetha ntoni kukuba xa uYesu wavuswa waguqulwa waba nomzimba wento esekwe kwikhabhoni waba "ngumzimba womntu ozukisiweyo". Oko kuya kwahluka kakhulu kwimizimba yethu yangoku, kungoko uYesu wakwaziyo ukuhamba ngodonga njl.
Enkosi Jannai40. Mhlawumbi ndifunde i-Buzzard ngokuchanekileyo.
Uxolo bendifuna ukuthi "ndinikwe"
Into endinokuyithetha ngokuqinisekileyo kukuba uYesu Krestu utyhila eyona nto ayibonakalisileyo kuye, kwaye ndinqwenela ukufana naye. Ndisacacisa amagqabantshintshi kunye nenqaku olibhalileyo.Ndiyayibona intsingiselo kwezinye zokuqiqa namhlanje kunokuba bendinjalo izolo, andifuni ukuthi ndizibophelele kwinkolo ndide ndizive zonke iimpikiswano. kwaye uqonde ngokupheleleyo. Oko kuthatha ixesha kunye nentumekelelo yokuvuma ukuba ndiyaphazama .. Njengo-JW okholelwa nje nantoni na uTom, uDick no... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Enkosi ngengcaciso. Ukuthi "andazi" yimpendulo eyamkelekileyo. Abanye banokuthi, ukuqala kobulumko. Ndifunda kancinci ukuyithetha loo nto nam. Nam ndikwigophe lokufunda, kwaye iimpendulo ezininzi kunye nezimvo ziye zandinceda ndaphucula ukucinga kwam ngeZibhalo. Umntu ngamnye ophawulayo unezinto azithathayo, kodwa uninzi, ndiyakholelwa, lufuna ngokunyanisekileyo ukuphela kwenyani. Ngamanye amaxesha kuyafikeleleka. Ngamanye amaxesha, kuya kufuneka silinde ukutyhilwa kwexesha elizayo kwinyaniso evela kuThixo. Ezinye izinto zisenokungaze zazi.
Siye saxolelaniswa noThixo ngokwazana noYesu Krestu ngoba ungumfanekiso kaThixo ongabonakaliyo .Ngokuba ngoku into endiyiqondayo.
Ayimpendulo ngqo. Ndishiya ndizibuza ukuba yintoni eyona nto uyikholelwayo.
Meleti
Into oyithethileyo indenze ndacinga ukuba "Ngaba le nto usithi uLogos wayengenakuba" nomfanekiso "kaThixo xa usezulwini, kodwa emhlabeni kuphela?
Nangona ndimi ngenkcazo yam yantlandlolo ukuba amaZibulo abhekisa kwizikhundla ezingadalwanga kuqala.Imagento leyo ibhekisa kwindalo yonke kubandakanya iingelosi.
Ukusuka koku ndiyayiqonda inkolelo yakho yokuba uYesu ebekho, ukhona, kwaye uyakuhlala engumfanekiso kaThixo ongabonakaliyo.
I-GodsWordIsTruth
Andikholelwa ukuba uYesu usengumntu ezulwini. Ndiyakholelwa ekubeni ngenxa yokuba wayehlala phakathi kwamadoda, wabelana nathi ngobuntu kunye nokubandezeleka kwaye wathabatha loo mava kunye naye, andibhalisi ku-Anthony Buzzards uluvo lokuba ungumntu opheleleyo ezulwini. Wenza ingqiqo kwezinye iindawo, kodwa loo nto ayinangqondo kum, ukuba unjani umzimba kaYesu ngoku akanakuba ngumntu, kuba wayehamba ngodonga.
Xa inkoliso yamaKristu isithi uYesu ungumntu ezulwini, ayithethi ukuba umntu unjengathi singamadoda namhlanje. Bathetha indoda ezukisiweyo (indoda emzimbeni ozukisiweyo). Isizathu sokuba banamathele kwingcinga yokuba uYesu uyindoda ngokokwazi kwam ukuba kukho izibhalo ngokungathi kukho umlamli omnye phakathi kwabantu noThixo, INDODA, uYesu Krestu. Ke bayaqhubeka ukuba uyindoda, ngelixa enomzimba ozukisiweyo. Esinye isizathu endisoloko ndiva ngaso kukuba uYesu wavuka ekwangulo mzimba ukwamnye, kwaye oko kwanika ubungqina bovuko.... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ewe.Ndiyavuma ukubulela ngokucacisa i-INOG.
Enkosi ngokucacisa i-INOG. Ndiyaxolisa ngokungayichazi kakuhle indawo yakho iMarkChristopher. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba izibhalo ziyayixhasa into yokuba uYesu wavuswa ngokwasemzimbeni. Ndizibonisile le nto kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba ubuyele kubuqaqawuli awayenabo “phambi kokusekwa kwehlabathi. ”UJohn ubonakala esithi phambi kokuba igama libe yinyama (Yohane 1:14) ukuba wayenguLizwi noYehova. (UYohane 1: 1-3).
Andigxininisi kodwa andinasizathu sokuba sigqibe kwelokuba usengumntu emazulwini… eyinyama ezukisiweyo okanye hayi.
Ndiyavumelana ne-eyevejesus333.UbuChwephesha beminyaka yokugqibela ye-2000 buzabalaza buchaza ubukho bukaKristu bangaphambili. Andifuni, ndicinga ukuba loo nto iza kutshintsha nangaliphi na ixesha..Intante tension incinci kwingxoxo, ke ndizakufaka ngaphezulu kwamazwana kwaye mhlawumbi into iya kucofa kamva.
UJohn 1: 30New American American Bible (NASB)
30 Nguye lo bendixela yena xa bendisithi: 'Emva kwam kuza umntu omkhulu kunam, kuba ebekho ngaphambi kwam.
Ukuba u-Yesu wayengenabo ubukho bobuntu bangaphambi kokuba lo mfanekiso uhambelana njani?
Ndilonwabele inqaku kwaye nengxoxo ibichukumisa kakhulu. Ndinombono onzulu ngakumbi "ngegama" njengoko lisetyenziswe kuYohane 1: 1 kwaye liyazaliseka kuYesu.
UBilly impendulo kumbuzo wakho ifumaneka kwinto ebizwa ngokuba sisiprofetho esifanelekileyo.
Yijonge.
Lo ngumzekelo wokuphendula okugxothiweyo. Siyayikhubaza le ndawo. Bona Ukuphawula i-Etiquette ufuna ulwazi olungolunye.
Meleti, bendisandula ukufunda ngokugqibelela kwesiprofeto kwaye ndiyifumene inomdla kakhulu - bendingazange ndeva ngayo ngaphambili kwaye ndicinga ukuba izokunceda abafuna inyani ngokunyanisekileyo kuphando lwabo, ke ndiyabulela kakhulu ngolwazi. Ukunyaniseka, andikhange ndiyicinge into yokuba la magqabaza ayimpendulo egxekayo. Ingcinga nje malunga nebhodi yeengxoxo - ukhe waqaphela ukuba kukho igama eligqithisileyo lelinye lamalungu apho kwaye kufuneka ndivume ukuba ndothuke kakhulu ukuba bekuvunyelwe. Ndandixhalabile kuba kukho umntu endimaziyo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiyayibulela imbono yakho Jannai40, kodwa imigaqo esizama ukuyithobela kwiingxoxo zethu yile: 1. Beka isiseko esinyaniweyo senyaniso usebenzisa irekhodi leSibhalo ukuxhasa yonke imiba yengxoxo yakho. Kucatshulwe kwiSibhalo xa usenza impikiswano. 2. Ukuba ubhekisa kwireferensi yangaphandle enjeya isisifundisi okanye amagqabantshintshi e-Bhayibhile, caphula amagama kwisicatshulwa senkcazo kwaye unike isalathiso kupapasho, iphepha nomhlathi ukukhokelela umfundi kwinto eyiyo. 3. Kulumkele ukukrokra, kunye nokuhlukumeza okanye ukugweba. (4 Pet. 1: 2; 23: 3; Yude... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Yintoni enento yokwenza nesiprofetho esifanelekileyo .Ukucacisa ngokucacileyo ukuba uJesus wayekho ngaphambi kwakhe. Ngaba esi siprofetho sigqibeleleyo xa isiganeko sesiprofetho esizayo sithetha ngaso njengakwixa elidlulileyo okanye langoku ngesiNgesi .amagama anjengala okanye abekhona. Kubonakala ngathi kukho ubunzima kwi-hebrew ukuchaza iziganeko ezizayo. Ke kwisingesi kuyathethwa ngayo njengoko sele isenzeka nangona ingekamva. Kodwa kule ndinyana uJohn usichaza ngokwenyani isiganeko sexesha elizayo okanye isibakala nje esicacileyo ..Ukuba uYesu wayekho ngaphambi kwakhe. .kev c
Kwaye enye into yile yokuba ezi-hebrew arent we qouting the Christian christian script okanye ndim ndisekude umkhondo.
UMeleti ngenxa yokuba singavumelani nawe, akukho mfuneko yokubeka ileyibhile yethu kumagama ahlekisayo. Akukho sophistry idlalwayo apha. Ndiyayiqonda ngokupheleleyo impikiswano yakho, kuba bendihlala ndibambe izimvo ezifanayo. Kodwa ndinelungelo (njengabanye) ukutshintsha iimbono ezithile ngenxa yobungqina obunamandla, oye wasilela ukubonelela (ubuncinci kum) ngaphandle kwesindululo sokuba ngandlela thile ndilahlekisile okanye ndilahlekisa abanye. ziqala ukuvakala ngathi 'ngunina' wethu wakudala- nceda ungayi apho.
Ewe, kunjalo, unelungelo lokutshintsha izimvo zakho. Ubonakala ngathi ukhubeka ngaphandle kokuba bekukho ngenjongo. Ndenza intetho eqhelekileyo. YayinguJannai40 otyhiliza le nkcazo, yiyo loo nto ke ndicele ukuba ayicacisele.
Ngokubhekisele kokusilela kobungqina obuninyanzelayo, ndacinga ukuba ndikwanikeze oko kwinqaku lam. Ukuba awuyifumani inyanzelekile, kulungile, njengoko usitsho, unelungelo lokujonga.
Meleti, Kwimpendulo yakho yokugqibela kwi-INOG, ngaba ndiyaqonda ukuba xa usithi, “Kulula ukulahleka kubugocigoci obuntsonkothileyo babantu, kodwa inyaniso yesibhalo iyathandeka ngenxa yokulula kwayo,” obhekisa kuwo I-Buzzard kunye ne-Unitarian, kuba abanye abantu banokucinga ukuba ukhona. Baninzi kakhulu abo babambelele kwezi nkolelo ziphulaphuleyo apha, kwaye andicingi ukuba bangazithanda izimvo zakho.
Ngaba iimpikiswano ze-Buzzard kunye ne-unitarian tata kunye ne-sophistic, okanye zilula kwaye zicacile?
1Co 1:12 Nditsho ke, ukuthi elowo kuni uthi, Mna ndingokaPawulos; ke mna ndingoka-Apolo; ke mna ndingokaKefas. ”
Ngubani iBuzzard? Ngoobani i-Unitarians? Ngoobani iiJW's? Ngoobani iiChristadelphians?
Andiyonto yamadoda okanye iqela lamadoda.
Ndizama ukuvumela ilizwi likaThixo lithethe nam kwaye alithethi into enye kum, njengawe.
IJA, ndiye ndenza amagqabantshintshi malunga nokumamela, ukugaya ezinye iingcinga zabantu kule ndawo kwaye ngokwenza njalo iqala inkqubo yokufunda. Apha sonke sinokuxoxa ngezinto ezinzulu zeempendulo. Sonke sifuna inyaniso kodwa njengoko umntu ebethethile ngaphambili, sisafumana ubunzima emva kweminyaka engama-2,000 XNUMX malunga nokuba ngubani olwalamano lukaThixo noKristu. Ke iyintoni kanye kanye inyaniso? Kulungile kwibhayibhile akunjalo? Ababhali nabaFarisi babethe phithi kukugcina zonke iinkcukacha zomthetho abalahlekelwa yinjongo yawo yasekuqaleni. Babengamthandi uThixo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Andiqinisekanga ukuba ivelaphi na loo nto!
Jannai40-Ndizakuxhasa izimvo zakho zokugqibela. Beka kakuhle. Ukuba siqala ukwenza ingxelo eqinisekileyo ngalo mbandela, isuka kwingxoxo iye ekuqinisekiseni, ukwahlulahlulahlula, ukutshutshisa, ukuzonda. Kufuneka sijonge kuphela iintlungu iCawa eye yadlula kuzo kule minyaka ingama-2000 idlulileyo kulo mbandela. Kwaye ngubani ozuzileyo xa sitshutshisana kwaye sihlebelana, kuba sicinga ukuba sinenyaniso. Masilumke kulo mbandela kwaye singamniki uMtyholi nayiphi na indawo yokuhlala. Ndineenyanga ezi-6 ezidlulileyo ndiba ngumhlobo wokuqina... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndicinga ukuba eli qonga alikwazi ukuphatha izithuba ezinde; / ndichwethe iiposti ezimbini ezibini ezinezibhalo kwaye sihlandlo ngasinye kusongana. Kuya kufuneka ndingene kumkhwa wokuyigcina kwenye indawo, ndiye ndazi ngcono.
I-INOG, Ngaba ucinga ukuba iiposti zengcaciso ziyimfuneko? Ngaba ayilunganga ukuyigcina ilula ukuze wonke umntu abe nokuyiqonda into ethethwayo. Akukho siphoso, yingcinga nje, ngapha koko, uYesu wayeyindoda enamazwi ambalwa, wayengenguye, kodwa kwakulula ukuyiqonda.
Ndingabeka imeko yam ngaphandle kokuchaza, kodwa oko akunakulunga kwingxoxo. Ngapha koko, ukuba nesicangca akufuneki nokuba kubenzima 😉 Ngokusisiseko kuyehla koku. Kum ubungqina obuninzi bukaPaul noJohane bushiya kungekho gumbi likaYesu owayengaphambi kwakhe umntu okwiLogos. UPaul noJohane ngokuyintloko bathetha into enye malunga neLogos. UPawulos wathi ngoNyana yonke into yadalwa, uYohane wathi ngeLogos yonke into yadalwa. Zininzi kakhulu iivesi ezigxininisa ubukho bo Nyana / iiLogos endizibekayo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
INOG, andiqinisekanga ukuba uthetha ukuthini ngokuzama ngobuqili kweBuzzard kunye nezinye iiyunithi- mhlawumbi ungakuchaza oko? Kusenokwenzeka, ewe, ukuba aba banyanisekile njengokuba nathi sizimisele ukufikelela enyanisweni. Ungathini ukuba iBuzzard ilungile, okanye uza kwenza ntoni ukuba uMeleti ulungile. Asinakuthetha ngokuqinisekileyo ukuba nabani na unayo yonke into ngokuchanekileyo-nguloo mgibe siwele kuwo njengee-JWs. Ngoku simamele kwaye sikhangele kwaye sithandaze senze iingqondo zethu kwinto esikholelwa ukuba ngeli xesha ukuba iyahambelana neLizwi likaThixo.
Enkosi, InNeedOfGrace. Ndiyavumelana nawe ekuqwalaseleni kwakho ubungakanani bobungqina obo bobunikwa nguPaul noYohane malunga nobukho bukaYesu. Kulula ukulahleka kwi-sophistry eyinkimbinkimbi yamadoda, kodwa inyaniso yesibhalo iyathandeka ngenxa yokulula kwayo.
Kananjalo ndinoloyiko lokuba ukwaliwa kobu bungqina kushiya umnyango uvulekele iingcinga ezingakumbi, njengokwamkelwa komntwana kunye nolunye ulwakhiwo.
Eyam, eyam. Ngaba uyatsho ukuba ngaphandle kokuba siyavumelana nentsingiselo yakho ukuba sizakuphuma?
Umntu oneziqu ezithathu unokuthetha into enye nawe. Emehlo akhe izibhalo zifundisa ngokucacileyo uBathathu Emnye kwaye ungumlandeli nomphefumlo olahlekileyo. Inyaniso ibonakala isengqondweni yalowo ubonayo.
Ukwahlulahlula-hlula kwesi sihloko kwaye ujonga indlela udaka oluqala ngayo ngokukhawuleza ukubhabha !!
Ukuba sivakalelwa kukuba abanye baphosa udaka-kwaye andicebisi ukuba banjalo- sinokwenza okuncinci ngako. Into esinokuyenza kodwa ayikukuphosa emva. Ithoni yamanye amagqabantshintshi aqala ukuvakala. Kutheni le nto sonke singaphefumli, sibala ukuya kwishumi, kwaye ukuba sinqwenela ukwenza uluvo, sifunde amaxesha ambalwa ngaphambi kokuba ucofe iqhosha lokuphendula?
ukujonga ngokungalunganga kunye ne-markchristopher
Ndifumana izimvo zakho zinomdla kwaye zikhuthaza, kwaye ndiyabulela.
I-Jannai40
Ukwenza ngokungekho sikweni, ewe ndicinga njengamaGrike kuba ndifunde isiGrike kangangeminyaka emi-6 esikolweni 😉 Zonke iiphun zibekelwe ecaleni, ndiyavuma ukuba kuyakubakho impembelelo evela kuMbutho we-WT, othe ngela xesha wathabathela kwenye indawo. Oko sele kuthethiwe, andizukulahla ngokuzenzekelayo isikhundla ngenxa yokuba i-WT iyasifundisa. Andiyiyo itorist yelenqe nokuba, apho ndiya khona ngombono wokuba yonke into yonakele kwaye wonke umphengululi wangoku wonakele, ndizama nje ukujonga ngendlela endinokuyenza ngayo kwimpikiswano nganye ndize ndithathe indawo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndivumelana nokuqiqa kwakho. Uyibeka bhetele kunokuba bendinokuyifumana.
Umxholo kaYesu kunye nendalo yakhe yenye yezona zinto bendizikhathalela zona iminyaka kunye neminyaka. Ukujonga ubungqongqo bengxoxo-mpikiswano apha, abahlobo abaninzi apha bazibandakanye kakhulu 😉 Ukuthetha ngamava am buhlungu ndiziva ngathi khange ndiye phambili ngesihloko iminyaka emininzi kuba bendifunda kwaye ndiqwalasele imithombo uxolo kwindalo. Ngamanye amagama, bendiqinisekile ukuba ndinelungelo kwaye bendingenava nje ezindlebeni zam komnye umntu, kwaye yonke into endiyifundileyo ibibonakala iqinisekisa indlela endilunge ngayo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
INOG - ngubani lowo? Uxolo bendithetha ngeeLizwi zikaThixo
Molo IJA, andicingi njengesiGrike ndicinga njengeGWIT 🙂 andifundanga, ndifunda okanye ndiphande ulwimi lwesiGrike. Ngaphandle kokuba uxela ukuba iinguqulelo ezikhoyo zebhayibhile ziguqulwe ngendlela engeyiyo kunye ne-Greek slant… ke apho uThixo asincede sonke. Ndinokholo lokuba uThixo undinike into afuna ukuba ndiyazi. Ke makhe ndivule (uyayazi le nto sele ikho IJA) Ndiyinto enomdla ngalo Yesu ngumntu oqiqayo nje. Kum ingxoxo iqala ngokuvuma ukuba uYesu [unguthixo] okanye ungokobuthixo.... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo Meleti kunye ne-INOG Ndicinga ukuba isizathu sokuba ukufumanisa kunzima kangaka nokujonga ukuba kungenzeka iimpikiswano ngokwam kunye nabanye zichaze ukungahambisani kwakho noYesu kungenxa yokuba ucinga njengamaGrike. De ube uyayiqonda le nto, uluvo olwahlukileyo alunakwenza nto engqondweni yakho. Bendinguwe ngoku Bendinguvulandlela kunye ne-MS kwaye ingqondo yam ibixinekile kwaye ineengxoxo ezifanayo ezikhoyo. Kuthathe kakhulu ukufikelela kumbono endiwubambe ngoku, kodwa ndicinga ukuba ndinembono ecebileyo ngayo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ihlala indikhathaza xa abanye becinga ukuba bayayazi into endiyicingayo.
Molo Meleti, njengoko usenokwazi umbono wethu ngokubhekisele kubume bukaKristu wahlukile. Kubonakala ngathi siyavumelana ngaphezulu kunokuba bendicinga ngaphambili kwaye ke ndiyalixabisa kwaye ndiyalihlonipha eli nqaku lomeleleyo. Ndifunde kakhulu… ndiza kuyibhukmaka le. Oko kuthethwe ukuba ndingumntu ofanayo we-INOG ukuba esi sibhalo sodwa asiphikisi okanye singqine ubuThixo bukaYesu. Eyona nto sigxile kuyo kwesi sibhalo yindlela yethu ekhethekileyo yokuyinikezela. Ndiyamangaliswa kukufumanisa kwezi nyanga zimbalwa zidlulileyo ukuba kukho amanye amaKristu ayakhanyelayo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo GodsWordIsTruth. Nam ndamangaliswa okokuqala ndifunda ukuba kukho abo bangakholelwayo ukuba uYesu wayekhona ngaphambi kokuzalwa kwakhe emhlabeni. Enkosi ngale linki ngendlela. Ndiza kuyisebenzisa kuphando lwam. Kubekho amagqabantshintshi amaninzi kunye neempikiswano ezahlukeneyo ngobume bukaKristu kwaye le yesibini kuphela kolu thotho. Ngokucacileyo, le yenye yezihloko ezibaluleke kakhulu kwezona zininzi. Ndiyavumelana noko, kunjalo. Ndivakalelwa kukuba uYesu wayenesiqalo ngendlela esingayiqondiyo. Ndizakuzama ukuphikisa inqaku kwi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UMeleti - “Masicinge ukuba wayenesiqalo. Ichaphazela njani loo nto iChristology yethu? Ngoku masithi ebehlala ekho. Ichaphazela njani iChristology yethu? Ukuthetha phandle, andiboni ukuba iyichaphazela njani nayiphi na indlela. Mhlawumbi omnye umntu phaya uyicingile loo nto. ” Ndiyavuma ukuba ayichaphazeli nantoni na. Ngokuqinisekileyo ayichaphazeli iChristology kuninzi ngaphandle kwabo bazama ukubonisa ukuba uYesu uyindoda (umzekelo amaSilamsi) okanye umntu owadalwa umz. UMichael okanye iNgelosi (JW's) okanye... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukuba, njengoko ndikrokrela, asinakukwazi ngokuqinisekileyo ukuba ingaba iLogos yayinesiqalo na, ndiyazibuza ukuba kutheni umgudu ongaka ubekwa ekuqinisekiseni ukuba ikuphi. Kudala ndicinga ngale nto kwaye ndicinga ukuba kufanelekile ngeposi. Ndiza kubamba izimvo ngakumbi de ndizifumane zonke izidada zam zilandelelana, kodwa undinike ukutya okuninzi okucinga. Enkosi mfondini. 😉
I-GodsWordIsTruth ndikhe ndachola into oyithethileyo "Oko kuthethwe mna ndiba nengqondo enye ye-INOG ukuba esi sibhalo sodwa asiphikisi okanye siveze ubukho bukaYesu" Ukuqonda okanye ukungqina ubukho bukaKrestu phambi kwakhe ndingathi akukho buThixo bakhe. Kuthetha ntoni ubuThixo? Ukuba uYesu wayekho njengoThixo? Akunjalo. Ibhayibhile ayikaze ithi uYesu nguThixo kuba uThixo akangomntu.UThixo ungumoya.Ukuba uThixo ungumntu ogqibeleleyo wezinto ezinje ngoThando uBulumko boMonde njl.njl. kunye nommiselo ngqo wakhe... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndididekile… andizimisele kukhubekisa kodwa kufuneka ndibuze ukuze ndibuyele ndifunde ingxelo yakho:
1.Ngaba uyakholelwa na ukuba uYesu nguThixo?
2. Ngaba uyakholelwa ukuba ngoku ungumntu osemazulwini?
Beka nje uYesu nguYesu njengohlobo lomntu .Le ndoda ngoku ngumlamleli ezulwini kuluntu lonke.
UMarkChirstopherf ukuba angayiphazamisi ingxoxo nangaphezulu kodwa ndiyakholelwa ukuba uYesu kwafuneka abutyhile ubuntu bakhe ekunyukeni. Ngaphandle koko yenza umbingelelo wakhe ungasebenzi. Sisenokungavumelani nokuba yenzeke njani okanye nini (ukuvuka komzimba novuko njengomoya.) Mhlawumbi amanqaku abekiweyo kwimpikiswano ethi "uYesu usengumntu" ahamba phezu kwentloko yam. Andiboni sizathu sokuba sigqibe kwelokuba uYesu usenguMntu kanye njengokuba besinokugqiba ukuba uyimvana yokwenene eyaxhelwa okanye ingonyama eyiyo yakwaJuda. Ingakumbi xa ezi mpikiswano... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Isinyithi ngokwenene ilola isinyithi! Ukuze sifumane inyani yokuba sinokuba siphosakele, kufuneka sikholelwe ukuba sisempazamo kwaye sizimisele ukwamkela inyaniso yomcimbi. Sonke sinamabala angaboniyo kunye / okanye neempazamo kwindlela esicinga ngayo. Ukwenza ngokwenkolelo yokuba singomnye wabambalwa abaneNyaniso yeZibhalo kuyinto eqhelekileyo kakhulu. Kuya kufuneka silumke singayamkeli imeko yokuba sidlulisela ilizwi lokulungisa. Xa umntu esamkela lo moya ndicinga ukuba kukhuselekile kuwo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Meleti, ndingenza icebo - endaweni yokuya kwibhodi yeengxoxo mhlawumbi kunokuba kufanelekile kwaye kuluncedo ukuba singavunyelwa ukuba siqhubeke nale ngxoxo kunye nabanye apha kwi-BP. Eyona nto ingaphaya kwamaphepha angama-24 ngesihloko malunga nobukho bangaphambili bukaYesu kwibhodi yeengxoxo inokubonisa ukuba asizukuya kude ngale ndlela. Kuthi sonke, umnqweno wethu kukufikelela kwinyaniso yeLizwi likaThixo nokunceda abazalwana bethu. Enkosi.
UYehova wazidala izinto ngeLizwi lakhe.
Umdumisi 33: 6 Ngelizwi leNkosi yamazulu Yehova, zenziwe, kunye nomkhosi wakhe wonke.
NguYehova yedwa owadala zonke izinto ngelizwi lakhe. Akukho namnye umntu. Ngokwakhe uLizwi waba yinyama yokusindisa uluntu esonweni nasekufeni ngokwenza indalo entsha
Col 1:16 ngokuba zadalelwa kuye zonke izinto ezisemazulwini nasemhlabeni, izinto ezibonakalayo nezingenakubonwa, nokuba ziitrone, nokuba zibukhosi, nokuba ngoorhulumente na. Zonke ezinye izinto zidalwe ngaye kwaye zidalelwe yena. Col 1:17 Ke, yena ungaphambi kwazo zonke izinto ezo, zadalwa ngaye, zonke izinto zadalwa ngaye, Col 1:18 ke yena uyintloko yomzimba, ulibandla. Ndim ukuqala, ndingowamazibulo kwabafileyo, ukuze abe ngowokuqala... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndafundiswa yi-Watchtower ukuba "izibulo" kwiKolose inentsingiselo yokoqobo. Ndandibavumela babeke umthetho wokuguqulela.Nangona ndikholelwa ukuba kukhuselekile ukuvumela iBible ukuba itolike. Intsingiselo yokuba ujonga ukuba ibithetha ukuthini ngaphambili kwitestamente endala. Emva koko unokubona ukuba kuthetha ntoni kwitestamente entsha. Ngokubhekisele kuKumkani uDavide utsho. Indumiso 89:27 "Ndiza kumbeka abe lizibulo lam, Osenyangweni kookumkani behlabathi". UYesu Krestu kubhekiswa kuye kuphela njengo Nyana kususela kwixesha awayelapha emhlabeni, ngaphambi kokuba wayekho... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
"Uluvo lwam oluthobekileyo nolungachananga" ??? Ngaba kancinci uburharha ubungqongqo?
Ke uthi iiLogos azinakho "umfanekiso" kaThixo xa usezulwini, kodwa kuphela emhlabeni?
Umongo ojikelezileyo uphakamisa umbono wakhe ngokwembono yomntu. Iingelosi nazo azibonakali, kutheni le nto uLizwi enguMfanekiso kaThixo ongabonakaliyo kubo?
"Luhlobo lwam lokuthobeka nolungazithembi?" Into encinci yokuhleka kobuntu?
Bendinyanisekile, ukuba andilunganga ngendlela endibona ngayo izinto ndinethemba lokuba ndinako ukuvuma ukuba andilunganga
Uziva ngokunyanisekileyo ukuba umbono wakho awunasono?
Kananjalo, ukulandela ukuqiqa kwe-ImJustAsking malunga nomsebenzisi ka "u" vs. "waye" kwindima ye-16, ukuba "izibulo" alinakusebenza kwixesha elidlulileyo ngenxa yesenzi sesenzi sexesha langoku "ngu", kumele ukuba wayengumfanekiso ongabonakaliyo UThixo ngoko. Kuba ngexesha lokubhalwa kwakhe wayengabonakali, asinakunciphisa "umfanekiso" kwimeko yakhe ebonakalayo kuphela.
UMark Christopher - ”AbaseKolose abasifundisi ukuba uYesu wayengowokuqala ukudalwa, kunoko. Ungowokuqala kumgca wendalo entsha, kodwa ikwasikhumbuza ukuba ngaye “uLizwi” zonke izinto zadalwa ngaye. Ngale nto ndivuma ngokupheleleyo. Ndijonge amaKolose ngeendlela ezininzi ezahlukeneyo kwaye sisigqibo sam senkcazo yeWT yingcambu yokuqonda ukuba uYesu ngumntu odaliweyo. Izibhalo zifundisa ukuba iZibulo linokuba sisihloko esinokudluliselwa kwenye. Thatha uDavide ngokomzekelo… wayeyiyo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Incwadi kaBeDuhn ibanga ukuba ukwakhiwa kwegrama 'kwamazibulo endalo' kubonisa ngokucacileyo ukuba uYesu, ngokwenene, 'uyindalo'. Ngaba unesizathu esihle sokumthandabuza kuloo nto?
Andimthandabuzi kuba andinalwazi lokuba ungubani. Ndinomdla wokuba kutheni kufuneka ndazi ukuba ngubani kwaye kutheni amagama akhe kufuneka ethwele ubunzima…
Uxolo. Igama lakhe likhankanyiwe rhoqo kule foramu bendicinga ukuba wonke umntu olapha uyazi ukuba ungubani. Ngapha koko, uJason BeDuhn ubhale incwadi ethi "Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament" ehlalutya iinguqulelo ezininzi ze-NT nendlela ezijongana ngayo, ikakhulu, nemibhalo yobungqina bemfundiso kaBathathu Emnye, phakathi kwabo, Kol. 1.15-20. Ucacisa ukuba "izibulo kwindalo" ye-NIV ayinasihlahla kwaye ibinzana "lendalo" libonisa ukuba uYesu wayeyinxalenye yendalo. Isifundo esinomdla, nangona sinexabiso.
KwabaseKolose 1:16 Ukuthatha isibhalo kwimeko, kunokuthiwa kubhekiswa kwindalo entsha-uBukumkani bukaThixo. (KwabaseKolose 1: 13-18)
Ngaphandle kokuba ivesi 16 ayihambelani nendalo entsha. 17 uthi yena ungaphambi kwezinto zonke.
I-18 imbiza ngokuba lizibulo kwabafileyo. Ke amazibulo kwindalo yonke (hayi nje indalo ethile. Indalo entsha ayiyiyo yonke) ulizibulo kwabafi. Inqanaba lobuzibulo elahlukileyo.
Ukubonisa ukuba ngamabakala amabini ahlukeneyo obuzibulo, uPawulos uthi, "ukuze abe ngowokuqala ezintweni zonke."
UYesu “uphambi kwezinto zonke” kwabaseKolose 1: 17- ligama elithi “ngaphambili” elibonisa, njengoko kuqhele ukwenzeka, ubungangamsha besikhundla ngaphezu kokubekwa phambili ngexesha. Ngokwexesha uYesu wayephambi kwabo bonke abanye kwindalo "entsha". Ngokwexesha elingaphambi komhlaba kwisicwangciso sikaThixo sokumnika ilifa lezinto zonke. Ungowokuqala ukufumana ukungafi ngovuko, yiyo loo nto kwivesi 18 u Yesu "lizibulo kwabafileyo". Yayikukuvuka kwakhe ekufeni okwamenza wangomkhulu phantsi koThixo kwindalo yonke entsha nawo onke amagunya akuyo. Ivesi 18 yile... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo Meleti kuqala enkosi ngokundivumela ukuba ndibe lundwendwe kwindawo yakho kunye nokundivumela ukuba ndiphawule. Ndiyabubulela kakhulu ubabalo lwakho, ngakumbi kuba ndinombono ochaseneyo kwaye ndicinga ukuba awunakucinga ngazo zonke izibakala. Ngokungafaniyo 'neenkosi zethu ezingabantu' unesidima nothando ukuvumela abo bangavumelani nawe ukuba bathethe iziqwenga zabo kwaye ndinombulelo. Ngoku kwiindawo zam zexesha Meleti indawo yakho isekwe kwisitetimenti esimangalisayo sokuba ixesha lolwakhiwo. Ngokwenene? Ngaba ungaqiniseka, nini... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo ImJustAsking, Ukuphendula omnye umbuzo wakho, ixesha alindivumeli ukuba ndiphendule yonke le ngongoma. Re: Ixesha njengendalo. Inzululwazi ingqine kodwa ukuvavanya ukuba isantya esilihamba ngalo ixesha lahlukile ngokuxhomekeke kwisantya sezinto ezenzeka kuyo. Ke ukuba uhamba kufutshane nesantya sokukhanya, uya kukhula kancinci kancinci. Kuba ixesha liyinxalenye yelaphu lesithuba, liyinxalenye yendalo ebonakalayo. Ke ukuze kubekho ixesha njengoko silazi, kufuneka kubekho umbandela ekuhambeni. Ngokukhawuleza imicimbi ihamba,... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ixesha-hmm. Uyindoda ekhaliphileyo yokuqikelela kwinto esiyiqonda kancinci ngayo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time) kancinci ukuba inxibelelana njani nezinye izinto. Ndiyayifumana into oyithethileyo kodwa isengumbono kuba ayinakuqinisekiswa ngeBhayibhile okanye ngokwenzululwazi. Phil 2:16 - Uxolo bendithetha isalathiso sakho kwabaseKolose 1:15. Ke ndiyaphinda into endiyenzileyo ngaphambili: Isivakalisi sithi 'ayingo' hayi 'yayingu'. Ukusetyenziswa kuka 'ngu' kubonisa okwangoku akudlulileyo. Kungoko ke eyona nto ininzi esinokuyithatha kule ngxelo imalunga nobume bukaYesu NGOKU NGOKU... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Re: Ixesha. Ayisiyongqikelelo. Kuyinyani yesayensi. Nangona kunjalo, ukuba siyayamkela imbono yakho, ngoko uThixo ukhona ngexesha. Oko kuyakwenza ukuba uThixo athobele ixesha. Ngaba uyambona uYehova ebanjwa kumsinga wexesha njengathi? Kwaye ngubani owaqulunqa ixesha ukuba ayingoThixo, okanye ucinga ukuba eloxesha belisoloko likho? Ngaba kunjalo ke luphawu lukaThixo. Ukuba kunjalo, kutheni le nto izibhalo zingakufundisi oku. Re: Col. 1: 5 Ndibe ngowamazibulo kusapho lwam. Sebenzisa ingcinga yakho, kufuneka nditsho "ndandingowamazibulo". Ukanti kunjalo... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Watsho uMeleti
Ukuba uMarkChristopher uza kundinika ubungqina obuvela eZibhalweni ngale thethi, ndiye ndonwabise ukuchitha ixesha ndiyifunda. ”
Kufanele ukuba ndiyibeka ngenye indlela. Ngaba uthi uLizwi uphume ecaleni kwetyala elingumntu ohamba yedwa ngaphandle kwesiqalo.Akukho.
Hayi, anditsho njalo.
Uthotho olukhulu, Meleti! Ndicinga ukuba ingxaki yile: Kwelinye icala lokugqibela, unamakristu aphatha uYesu ngokungathi nguThixo uSomandla ngokwakhe. Kwaye kwelinye icala unamaNgqina kaYehova amphatha uYesu ngokungathi ungaphezulu kwesithunywa- "isidalwa somoya" (awuyithandi nje indlela abamchaza ngayo ngelo binzana?). Yimbono yam ukuba inyaniso ilele embindini. UYesu ukwindalo efanayo noThixo uSomandla. AmaHebhere athi ngowona mfanekiso kaThixo. Oku kungachaza ukuba kutheni ebizwa... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Inqaku nje elinomdla endikhe ndalifumana -Ukuba ubunayo ikopi yesiNgesi kwiinguqulelo ezisibhozo zesiNgesi ezazikho ngaphambi kowe-1582, ungafumana indlela eyahluke mpela kwiindinyana zokuqala zikaYohane:
“Ekuqalekeni ube ekho uLizwi, waye uLizwi ekuye uThixo, waye uLizwi enguThixo. Izinto zonke zabakho ngawo; kwakungekho nanye into eyenziwayo.
Ukufumana okuhle, Jannai40!
Le ngongoma ibaluleke kakhulu. Ikomkhulu u-W longezwa apho ngaxa lithile, kwakungekho oonobumba abakhulu kwisiGrike santlandlolo. Ukuba igama ngu "ngu" endaweni ka "yena", liyayitshintsha intsingiselo yesiqendu sonke.
Sichonga ukuba ngu "ngu" okanye "yena" ngokusekwe kumxholo. Akukho siseko ngokwemeko yengcinga yokuba uLizwi "ngu".
Ukuba andiphazami, ngesiGrike kwakungekho kusetyenzisw izihloko okanye izihloko ezingangqukuva, amagama onke ayefana. Ukusetyenziswa kweentloko-ntloko kuza emva kwexesha kwaye kuxhomekeke kumguquleli ukuba afake isicelo okanye angafakeli isicelo capital.
Ndicinga ukuba uJannai40 unemibono ecingisisiweyo. Ndicinga ukuba xa ibhayibhile isebenzisa igama elithi "uLizwi" ibinzana elivela kuThixo ngokwakhe. Ayisiyonto yohlukileyo ngaphandle kukaThixo. Hayi "he" ngokoqobo Kwimizekeliso 8, ubulumko kunye Ubulumko buchazwa njengaye okanye yena kodwa ndiyabona ukuba uThixo ubulumko kunye nezaga zisebenzisa nje izibongo ukubonisa indlela uThixo asebenzisa ngayo ubulumko bakhe xa uThixo ethumela ubulumko bakhe akathumeli umbutho ongunyana wakhe. Prov 1 ″ Abumemezi na ubulumko? Ukuqonda akuliphakamisi ilizwi lakhe. ” Prov 1: 12I, ubulumko, hlala... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Meleti, xa ndifunda amagqabantshintshi, ndifumana umbono wokuba ukuze sincede abantu baqonde uYohane 1: 1, kungaluncedo ukuba singenisa ezinye iingcinga ngokubhekisele kubukho bangaphambi kobukho / bokungabikho kukaYesu Krestu. Ndiyazi ukuba sinebhodi yeengxoxo eluncedo kakhulu ebantwini, kodwa ndicinga ukuba ndichanekile xa ndisithi abaninzi bakhetha ukuzola kweBP. Akukho senzo sityenziweyo, ewe-sinombulelo kakhulu kwibhodi yeengxoxo, kodwa andicingi ukuba yeyomntu wonke, kodwa kunjalo inenjongo ebalulekileyo kwabaninzi.
Ndithatha inqaku lakho, Jannai40 kwaye ndiyavuma ukuba iforum nganye inendima yayo. Ndicwangcisa ukuphuhlisa umxholo owukhankanyayo kumanqaku azayo kolu ngcelele kwiLizwi.
Kuya kufuneka ndivumelane noJannai. Ukunyaniseka ndifumene le ndawo kungaphelanga inyanga kodwa ndifunde lukhulu kumanqaku kodwa nakuzo zonke izithuba kunye nezimvo. Njengoko uTimoti esixelela-Zicingisise ezi zinto (Zokomoya). Kwaye le ndawo isivumela ukuba senze kanye loo nto, ukukwazi ukwetyisa iingcinga zabanye abantu ziyinxalenye yenkqubo yokufunda. Kwaye le yeyona fomathi ilungileyo yokwenza oko.
Ke ndiyabulela kuwo wonke umntu ngamanqaku kunye namagqabantshintshi ndiyazi ukuba sonke siyawuxabisa umsebenzi eniwubeke kule Meliti.
IMeleti,
Emva kokufunda inqaku lakho. Ndashiywa ndinoluvo lokuba uYesu Krestu wayekho njengonkulunkulu owahlukileyo kuYise uThixo kodwa zombini zikho ngexesha kunye nendawo. Kodwa ngaba indalo, kubandakanya iingelosi zivela kuYise noNyana? Ngaba zichanile?
UThixo ukhona ngaphandle kwesithuba / ixesha eliqhubekayo lendalo ebonakalayo. Ngokubhekisele kuYesu neengelosi, andazi ngenene. Ngokucacileyo banokunxibelelana nokuqhubeka kwethu. UYise wabo bonke ungumdali wabo bonke, kodwa wasebenzisa unyana wakhe njengelizwi lakhe elibonakalalisiweyo ekwenzeni zonke izinto. Oko kukuqonda kwam okwangoku.
“Ekuqalekeni ube ekho uLizwi” oko akuthethi ukuba “ekuqalekeni ebenguNyana”. "Njengomntu ucinga entliziyweni yakhe (kwaye ethetha) unjalo" unjalo. (IMizekeliso 23: 7). Ekuqaleni kwakukho ilizwi, elo lilizwi likaThixo. UJohn akazange athi eli gama lalisithethi. Nangona kunjalo, igama "linokuba" sisithethi, kwaye yile nto yenzekileyo xa uThixo eziveza kuNyana ngokuzisa uYesu kwimbali. UYesu wazalwa yintombi enyulu uMariya kwaye ngaphambi koko uYesu wayengekho. Xa sifunda inyaniso malunga... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kuko konke oku kulandela le ngxoxo, kukho isihloko "Ubukho bukaYesu ngaphambi kobuNtu" kwi Xoxa ngeNyaniso iqonga. Iimpikiswano ezahlukeneyo zekhontrakthi ziye zaxoxwa apho ngokubanzi- ama-24 amaphepha afanelekileyo kunye nokubalwa. 🙂
Sesiphi 'isiqalo' - ndingathanda ukwazi ukuba yeyiphi 'ingqalo' ebhekisa kuyo iBhayibhile. Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku sinikwe kuphela isiqalo sokuthelekelela malunga nexesha elingakhange libhekise nakwiBhayibhile. ISIQALO SOKUQALA eBhayibhileni siqala ngeGenesis. Ukuthetha nangasiphi na esinye isiqalo kukuthelekelela nje. Kwelinye icala isandla, ukuqala kwiGenesis, iBhayibhile ithetha ngezinye iziQalo ezininzi. Khangela igama. Kwakhona, zingaphi izinto zokudala ezikhoyo eBhayibhileni? Ngaba yiGenesis nje? Ke yeyiphi indalo enguYohane okanye uPawulos (okt... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kwimeko kaJohn 1 sineLizwi elichazwe njengaleyo ekwathi ngaye zonke izinto zenzeka ngaye. Kwivesi engaphambili, kuthethwa ngaye njengasekuqalekeni noThixo. Ke umongo ungasikhokelela ekubeni sigqibe ekubeni isiqalo ekuthethwa ngaso apha sikwasinye kwiGenesis 3: 1, "Ekuqalekeni uThixo wadala amazulu nehlabathi."
Endaweni yokuba ngumntu "onelizwi" kuYohane 1: 1 yayisisalathiso esipheleleyo sokusebenza kwengqondo kaThixo. Ke ngoko, xa uYohane 1: 1 ethetha "NGELIZWI" yayingelo xesha "uNyana" kude kube nguYohane 1:14 xa "ilizwi laba Yinyama."
Masivume ukungavumelani kuloo nto. 🙂
Meleti -Ndinomdla wokuba kutheni ungavumi. Ngaba sikhona isizathu okanye ngaba yindlela oziva ngayo ngayo nje ngesibhalo?
Ndicinga ukuba iJannai40 ayithethi umntu ngengqondo elinganiselweyo yomntu, kodwa kunoko ngengqondo epheleleyo yokuba. Kakade ke, uYesu ngaphambi kokuba eze emhlabeni wayengumntu owayenovelwano. Ayikho enye into eya kudibana nesityhilelo esimalunga naye esiBhalweni.
Isicatshulwa sikaJannai sifundisa ukuba uThixo wathumela okuphela koNyana amzeleyo. Waye ke ngoko ukuba ebenguNyana wakhe ngaphambi kokuthumela kwakhe. Isibhalo sikwatsho ukuba uLizwi wayekho ekuqaleni. Kwaye ukuba eli Lizwi ladala zonke izinto.
Ndivumelana nayo yonke into ngaphandle kwesivakalisi sokugqibela. UJohn 1 ucacisa gca ukuba zonke izinto zenziwa ngaye. Wayenendima kwindalo, kodwa wayengenguye uMdali.
Sifundisa phi isibhalo ukuba uYesu wayenendima nje "kwindalo"? KwabaseKolose 1: 16-17
Kuba ngaye uThixo wadala yonke into esemazulwini, nasemhlabeni. Wenza izinto esinokuzibona kunye nezinto esingaziboniyo- ezinjengezihlalo zobukumkani, izikumkani, abalawuli, namagunya kwihlabathi elingabonakaliyo. Yonke into yadalwa ngaye ibe yadalelwa yena. Umqolo 1.16 NLT
Kusengaye. Kuyavunywa, indima yakhe kwindalo ibinokuba nkulu ngakumbi ukuba ebenguMdali ngokwakhe.
I-Jannai40
Ndicinga ukuba akho kwinto apho.
“ULizwi” wayevele malunga nezihlandlo ezili-1,450 (kunye nesenzi “ukuthetha” izihlandlo ezili-1,140 1) kwiBhayibhile yesiHebhere. Intsingiselo esemgangathweni yegama "kukuthetha", "isithembiso" "ayithethi" - uNyana kaThixo; okanye isithethi. ILizwi ngokubanzi lithetha isalathiso sengqondo - intetho, igama. Kukho uluhlu olubanzi lweentsingiselo "zegama" kunye "nomntu" azikho phakathi kwezi ntsingiselo. U-Yohane 1: XNUMX “Ekuqalekeni uThixo wayenecebo, kwaye icebo elo lalingaphakathi kwentliziyo kaThixo, kwaye ke 'inguThixo'” -nguThixo lowo ekutyhilekeni kwakhe. Isicwangciso sasikhona... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
>> Akuzange kuthetha ukuba umntu abe ngumntu
Ngentlonelo kuya kufuneka ndivume.
ukuba ii-LOGOS azimelwe kwiinguqulelo zebhayibhile ngo-W, ndicinga ukuba uninzi lwabafundi alunakucinga ukuba lumele umntu okanye isidalwa kodwa "umyalezo, nangona kunjalo okanye umbono" njl.
Ukuba iilogo azimmeli uYesu, ezinokwenzeka, ayikhupheli ngaphandle ukuba uYesu uthixo. Ngenxa yokuba eli gama laba yinyama iya kuthetha ukuba utata uthathe isigqibo sokuthumela unyana wakhe emhlabeni, esenyameni, ukuba abonakalise kwaye abhengeze igama lakhe.
Ngamazwi alula endikukholelwayo kukuba uthixo wahlulahlula-hlula naye waba ngunyana. Ke unyana lowo wasebenzisa amanye amandla avela kuthixo kwaye wadala yonke enye into ..
Ukuba lo Nyana wayelinxalenye engezantsi kwakhe, ngebengayi kuba ngu-EXACT imprint. Okokugqibela ndingacinga ngeeLogo ezazinemigca efanayo, njengaxa zivela kuBawo kwaye zikulo lonke icandelo elilinganayo noYise (iimpawu, zilumkile nendalo), kodwa zibambe umsebenzi owahlukileyo kunye nesikhundla.
Isizathu sokuba nditsho njalo kungenxa yokuba uJesus ngokwakhe wathi utata mkhulu kunaye .sso 1 corinsians uthetha ngonyana azithobe kuye kuyise ekupheleni kweminyaka eliwaka .kwaye ibhayibhile isithi yena ungoyena mmeli ngqo. .kodwa ithi yona ngqo ikwatsho UKUXOLELWA. .Engqondo yam ukumelwa ayisiyiyo eyangempela.
Ufunda kakhulu kwikota ngqo. Uluvo lwantlandlolo lwaluvela kumsesane ochukunyiswe ngumthwebeba. UThixo uzicacisile iimpawu zakhe kuKristu.
Ngandlel 'ithile, ngaba sonke asingohlukanga kuThixo? Amandla afakwe kwiipakeji zento eyakha umzimba wam, ngaba ayiveli evela kuThixo, umthombo wamandla onke?
Ndinqwenela ukuba ndingayibeka kakuhle ngolu hlobo nonke. . on top of that ndidiniwe ndinentloko. . . Ndidiniwe ukwenza uphando malunga noku. Kodwa azikhumbuli naziphi na iinkcukacha. . .ninzi izinto zegrama zahamba kanye phezu kwentloko yam .. kodwa kunjalo. . Nam, ndashiywa yimvakalelo. ukuqonda. . isiphelo. . . ukuba uNyana waye (khange ayicinge njengoThixo 'ohluliweyo') kodwa waphuma kuYise. Ndicinga ukuba kukho ubudlelwane boYise / noNyana malunga nabo thina. . kakuhle kwi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Wenza amanqaku afanelekileyo, iBjfox1. Ukusuka kwiingcinga zakho nakwabo bonke abantu abathe banika izimvo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, kuyabonakala ukuba kukho izimvo ezahlukeneyo malunga nokuba ngaba uYesu wenziwa ngokuchasene nokudalwa kunye nokuzalwa. Umzimba womntu wenziwe ngezinto ezazisele zikho, kodwa wenziwa xa uThixo ephefumlela umoya wobomi emathatheni akhe. Esinye isikweko endisithathayo okoko ukumpompa umoya emzimbeni ongaphiliyo akuyomfuneko ukuba uphile. (Genesis 2: 7) Iingelosi zadalwa. Njani? Asazi. Ngaba uThixo wathabatha amandla akhe wawenza? Okanye wenza ngokomoya... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Njengokuba kunjalo, into endiyithathayo kuYohane 1: 1 zizinto ezimbini ezibalulekileyo ezongeza kwingxoxo yokuba ngubani uYesu ngokwenene (okanye iiLogos) Σος Okokuqala: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος UYesu (iiLogos) zingunaphakade. Ndikhuphe oku ngolu hlobo lulandelayo: 1. Ke ngoko, iiLogo zingunaphakade 2. IiLogo zinguTheos, Devine kweyakhe... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiyaluxhasa olu luvo. UYesu ngumntu wobuThixo. Ukuba uSathana uthathwa ngokuba uthixo, ngokuqinisekileyo ngokuqinisekileyo uYesu. Ndiyayiqonda le nto yokudideka. Akunjalo kuphela ngokusetyenziswa kwamanqaku okanye ukungabikho kwayo kodwa nokusetyenziswa koonobumba abakhulu. UThixo nxamnye nothixo. IsiGrike sasebhayibhile sonke sasiyintloko. Ke, uYohane 1: 1 unokuguqulelwa ngolu hlobo: Ekuqalekeni ube ekho uLizwi, waye uLizwi ekuye uThixo, waye uLizwi enguThixo. 2 ULizwi wayekunye noThixo kwasekuqalekeni. Utshintsho ligama elithi uthixo alikho kwikapitali. Isabonisa... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Xa kuthelekiswa nexesha lethu uOrigen noTertullian ngokuqinisekileyo bangamaKristu okuqala. Bafunda ibhayibhile ngesiGrike ngaphandle kwezigqibo zaziswe nguqulelo, basebenzisa uJohn 1: 1 ukubonisa ukuba iLagos yayinguThixo.
Andiziqhelananga neengxoxo kunye nokuqiqa kukaOrigen noTertullian.
UTertullian ndikholelwa ukuba usebenzise isiLatini. UOrigen uthe bonke ababizwa ngokuba ngoothixo kodwa uYise wenziwa ngendlela ethathwe kuYise.
Andivumelani ngokupheleleyo nomgaqo ochazwe apha ngasentla. “Ukuba uJohn wayefuna ukubonisa ukuba uYesu wayenguThixo kwaye engengothixo nje, ngewayebhale ngoluhlobo. “Ekuqalekeni yayililizwi kwaye igama lalinothixo kwaye uthixo wayeliLizwi. Ekuqalekeni wayebhekise kuThixo. ” Ngoku zontathu izibizo zicacile. Akukho mfihlakalo apha. Yigrama nje yesiGrike. ” Ngelixa abantu abaninzi be-Trinitiari benza impazamo yokusebenzisa le ndinyana ukubonisa ukuba uYesu unguTHIXO, ndiyakholelwa ukuba akulunganga ngokufanayo ukuthi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Into esinayo kuYohane 1: 18 ngumzekelo we-anarrrous (inqaku-ngaphantsi). Kuyinyani esiGrikeni ukuba imeko yethos okanye eyokwenyani yesini ayifuni inqaku elichaziweyo, kodwa oku akunjalo kwimeko yonyulo esetyenzisiweyo kuYohane 1: 1. UJason Debuhn ubhala athi: “Ityala lokuchonga lixhomekeke ngakumbi kunamanye amatyala esiGrike kwinto ethile ukubonisa ukuthembakala. Kukho uluhlu olulinganiselweyo lwezinto ezichazayo ezinokuthi zenze i-anosthinous nominative nomosative theos. Oku kubandakanya ubukho besimelabizo soqhotyoshelweyo (Yohane 8:54; 2... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ndiqhelene kakhulu nomsebenzi kaBeDuhn. Waye ndifunda umsebenzi kaBeduhn. Ngokuqinisekileyo ndiyavumelana noku kungasentla. Uthe ngokwakhe uyakuyiguqulela "njengelizwi elingcwele". (Ndatsho ngentla apha ukuba bekukho isizathu esivakalayo sokuyiguqulela njengesiqinisekiso) (“” Abahleli bamaNgqina kaYehova, xa bechaza le vesi, bathi bazama ukudlulisa ukuba eli gama linengqiqo esemgangathweni- oko kukuthi, igama lelika iklasi yezidalwa zikaThixo oku kuchanekile, enyanisweni kubonakala kum ukuba igama elithi theos likule vesi sisichazi.... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Ukongeza kwingxoxo, ndifumene uphando olwenziweyo nguDon Hartley onomdla ngokwenene.
Iziphumo zikaHartley zibonisa ukuba kwiVangeli kaJohn, i-PN yangaphambi kokuba yenziwe ihlala ilungile (56%), ngokuchaseneyo (11%), unaphakade (17%), okanye umgangatho ongenasiphelo (17%). Uqukumbela ukuba ngokwembono yohlalutyo olusulungekileyo lweenkcukacha-manani, i-THEOS kuYohane 1: 1c yeyona inokwenzeka.
Ndiyavuma. Ukuqonda kukaHarner yayikukuba "uthixo" kuthethwa kakhulu ngengqondo esemgangathweni, njengelinye leqela lezidalwa ezingcwele. Kufana nokuthi, "UJohn ngumntu okrelekrele." okanye "UJohn ukrelekrele." Kwimeko nganye uthethe into enye, enye enesibizo nesinye nesichazi.
Ndiyakholelwa ukuba uYesu nguthixo okanye nguThixo. Ukusuka kuJohn 1: 1 awukwazi ukungqina ngaphezulu koko. Ifuna lonke irekhodi eliphefumlelweyo ukuba lifikelele kwisigqibo esichazayo.
I-INOG, uthe "oku ngokuqinisekileyo kushiya umnyango uvulekile wengxoxo-mpikiswano malunga nokuba ngaba uYesu unguThixo na okanye sisidalwa nje esidumileyo". Andicingi njalo, kuba kuninzi kule vesi ngaphandle kukaJohn 1: 1c. Kuthekani 'ngoLizwi owayekunye noThixo'? Ukuba igama 'lalinguThixo' kwaye lalinoThixo, kubonakala kucace gca ukuba 'ungowodidi lwezidalwa ezingcwele' kodwa ASINGuye uThixo "awayekunye naye". Oko, kudityaniswa no Yesu ephindaphinda ukubiza uThixo "Thixo wam", nasemva kokubuyela ezulwini (njengakwisiTy. 3:12) kuya kubonakala kucacisa ukuba, ngelixa... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
UThixo uzinikele kumgangatho okanye kwindalo. Ukuba iilogos kuthiwa zizinikezele nazo, loo nto ishiya umbuzo uvulekile. Akukho mathandabuzo ukuba ngubani lo Thixo, inguYise. Akukho mntu uphikisana naloo nto. Yonke into endiyithethileyo kukuba le ndinyana ngokwayo ayinakubala njengobungqina okanye ngokuchasene ngokukodwa. Kukho iingxoxo zokuba: ungunaphakade kwaye u-Devine, kukho iimpikiswano ezinokusetyenziswa kwakhona: ayisiyonto ifihlakeleyo ukubekwa kuThixo kwaye ube nguThixo ngaxeshanye. Ndicinga ukuba umcimbi unzulu kakhulu emva koko... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Into ekufuneka siyifumene kuYohane 1 kukusilela kwenqaku phambi koThixo ekubhekiseni kuwe ukuba ungubawo. Oko akuvezi umahluko
Igama lalinothixo kwaye igama lalinguThixo. Ukufa kwesokudla meleti .Sikuqondile oku ixesha elide ..kukhona umahluko ocacileyo phakathi kwe-theos kunye neyesibini kwivesi yayo ukungangqinelani ukubabeka ngokufanayo. Ndikhumbula kwiminyaka emininzi edlulileyo uphononongo olunzulu endilwenzileyo kwezi ndinyana lwandikhokelela kwisigqibo sokuba lelesos yesibini inokuba ichaza umgangatho. Ungcwele .UThixo ect .ukuze uchaze indalo .. Lileligama elithi Thixo apho kubonakala ngathi siyabhideka. Xa sitsho ilizwi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Meleti, ndiyavuma uninzi lwento oyibhalayo, nangona kunjalo kukho amanqaku ambalwa endifuna ukuwazisa. “UYESU WADALWA” 1) Luhlobo olunjani loYise obiza izibulo lakhe “ngendalo” yakhe? Into oyenzayo, yithi, irobhothi, ayinakulingana nomdali wayo. Ukanti uYesu ungumfanekiso ophilayo kaYise. 2) Yohane 1: 3 “Ngaye zonke izinto zenziwa ngaye; ngaphandle kwakhe akubangakho nto idaliweyo. Ukuba wayedaliwe, ngewayenziwe. Ngaba uYohane 1: 3 uthetha ukuba wazenza ngokwakhe? Ndiyakholelwa ukuba isiphelo kukuba ungaphandle kwendalo. 3)... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Kwimpikiswano yokuba "owamazibulo" athetha ukuba kuya kubakho abanye:
Enye indlela yokucinga "ngamazibulo endalo" kukuthetha ukuba ungowokuqala ukuzalwa ngokomfanekiselo kaThixo, nokuba abangcwele abazelwe ngokutsha bayakulandela njengoko bazalwa benobuthixo ekuvukeni kwabo.
Molo Alex, ndiza kuphendula ngokufutshane kuba ingxoxo enzulu iya kuxhamla kwisihloko esitsha kwi-http: //www.discussthetruth.com. 1) Njengoko ndicacisile, izibulo sisikweko ukusinceda siqonde into ethile enxulumene phakathi koThixo neLogos. Kuyavunywa ukuba ekubeni indalo kumenza uYesu angaphantsi kwalowo wamdalayo, oku kuhambelana noko kufundiswa nguYesu kuYohane 14:28. Ngokufanayo, ukuba ngumfanekiso womntu akufuneki ukulingana. 2) UPaul uyabonisa ukuba ingxelo ebandakanya konke inokubakho ngaphandle xa esithi, ““. . Kuba [uThixo] izinto zonke wazithobela phantsi kweenyawo zakhe. Kodwa xa esithi... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
"Yenziwe, yenziwa, yaveliswa, onke la magama athwala intsingiselo eyanciphisa ubunyani kunye nokuzuka kwendalo yeLogos."
Ndiyavumelana noku. Ndikhetha igama elithi "utata" kunalawo magama, kuba alihambisani nentsingiselo.
Izibulo linokuthetha "elona libalulekileyo okanye elona libalaseleyo", amalungelo okuqala njengamazibulo kusapho. UYakobi waba lizibulo kwaye wafumana amalungelo obuzibulo, nangona ngokwebhayoloji wayengenguye owamazibulo. Ukuba ngamazibulo kwakusoloko kubaluleke kakhulu. Kuyafana nepasika. Kwakufuneka bafafaze igazi ukuze bakhusele ii-FIRSTBORNS zabo kumtshabalalisi. Leyo yindlela endandiyifunda ngayo xa uYesu kubhekiselwa kuye njengezibulo. Ungoyena ubalaseleyo kuzo zonke izinto ezidaliweyo okanye ezikhoyo. Ngokukodwa ababhali be NT basoloko befuna ukugxininisa ukubaluleka kuka Yesu.... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Molo Menrov,
Iingcamango zam malunga nokuqonda okungaphaya kwamazibulo zishwankathelwe kumanqaku okugqibela.
Ndenze nenqaku kwinqaku lokuba izibulo sisikweko okanye umzekeliso uThixo awusebenzisileyo ukusinceda siqonde ukuba unyana wakhe wadalwa nguye. UAdam, uEva, kunye neengelosi zonke zadalwa nguThixo ngoNyana wakhe, uLogos. Iimpawu nazo zenziwe. Nangona kunjalo ayisusi isimilo sakhe esahlukileyo, indima kunye nendalo.
"UJohn 1: 3" Zonke izinto zadalwa ngaye; ngaphandle kwakhe akubangakho nto idaliweyo. Ukuba wayedaliwe, ngewayenziwe. Ngaba uYohane 1: 3 uthetha ukuba wazenza ngokwakhe? Ndiyakholelwa ukuba isiphelo singaphandle kwendalo. ”
Andikulandeli apha. Kuba kusithiwa zonke izinto zadalwa ngaye, kuyacaca ukuba zonke izinto azibandakanyi kulowo zenziwe ngaye, akunjalo?
Alex,
KwabaseKolose 1: I-15 ene-genitive ibandakanya uYesu kwindalo.
AmaHebhere 2: I-8 isebenzisa ulwimi olufana nolukaJohn 1: 3 kodwa ngekhe siphikisane ukuba utata wayengaphantsi kukaKrestu.
"Kwiveki ephelileyo, uJohn, umhlobo wam, uvukile, wahlamba, watya isitya sokutya okuziinkozo, emva koko wakhwela ibhasi ukuya kuqalisa emsebenzini njengotitshala."
Oku kuvakala ngokungathi yiRussia 😛
Molo Meleti, ndiza kuthi okokuqala andiyibhalisi imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Ngaba ukhe wayicinga into yokuba amaKristu okuqala afunda iBhayibhile ngesiGrike (mhlawumbi isi-latin) kwaye ke ingxoxo-mpikiswano malunga nokuchaneka kokufakwa kwegama elingenammiselo phambi kothixo kwakungekho Ukanti basebenzisa iinguqulelo zesiGrike ezazikho kubo ukuphuhlisa imfundiso kaBathathu Emnye. Basebenzise uYohane 1: 1 ukubonisa ngesiGrike ukuba iLagos yayinguThixo…
Andikuphikisi oko ububhale apha ngasentla, ndifuna umbono wakho kwinto endiyinyusileyo
Molo BMC,
Andazi ukuba amaKristu enkulungwane yokuqala ayiphuhlisa imfundiso yotriniti. Ngokwazi kwam, ukukhankanywa okokuqala kolu luvo ngu-Origen (185-254) kunye noTertullian (160-220) ethetha ukuba yaqala ukuthathelwa ingqalelo ngabathile malunga nenkulungwane emva kokusweleka kukaJohn.
Ekuqalekeni yayingu-Eva, yena uEva wayeku-Adam, ke yena uEva engu-Adam.
Yena wayekunye noAdam.
Zonke izinto zabakho ngaye, ngaphandle kwakhe akubangakho nto idaliweyo.
Daytona
Ndiyayithanda. 🙂
Molo Meleti, ndiyakholelwa ukuba iVangeli kaYohane iphefumlelwe. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba uYesu wathetha ngokucacileyo ngaye nangobudlelwane bakhe noYise. Ndiyakholelwa ekuvumeleni amazwi kaKristu amcacise. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba oko ndingakuqondiyo okwangoku uBawo wethu uyakucacisa ngexesha lakhe elilungileyo. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba ukudideka kweenkolelo zobuKristu akuveli kuThixo kodwa ngabantu. Enkosi ngala manqaku mabini kwiLogos Meleti. Ngokuthelekisa wonke lo msonto kukungahambelani kokujikeleza kwesiphithiphithi. Zininzi kakhulu izithuba zemiqondiso, amagunya amaninzi, ukusuka eBuzzard ukuya kwi-Stafford, akwanelanga ukuthembela... Funda ngokugqithisileyo "
Enkosi ngale mbono ivuselelayo.