1914 - More Proof It Doesn't Work

– posted by meleti
There is a contradiction in our prophetic interpretation involving 1914 that only just occurred to me.  We believe that 1914 is the end of the appointed times of the nations, or the Gentile times
(Luke 21:24) . . .and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.

The appointed times of the nations end when Jerusalem is no longer being trampled.  Why is it no longer trampled?  Because Jesus is occupying the throne of David and ruling as king.  When did this occur?  At the end of the 2,520 years from Daniel prophecy involving Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the great tree.  That time period started, we say, in 607 B.C.E. and ended in 1914 C.E.
Put another way, Jesus started ruling on the throne of David in 1914 and so put an end to the trampling of Jerusalem by the nations.
All clear on that?  Thought so.
So how is it that we can teach that the holy city, Jerusalem, continued to be trampled on by the nations until June of 1918?

*** re chap. 25 p. 162 par. 7 Reviving the Two Witnesses ***
"...because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.” (Revelation 11:2) We have noted that the inner courtyard pictures the righteous standing on earth of spirit-begotten Christians. As we shall see, the reference here is to the literal 42 months extending from December 1914 to June 1918..."


See what I'm getting at?
Nuff said.

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  • Comment by junachin on 2012-08-01 16:38:19

    As a side point, it's interesting that the 42 months start in December 1914. Why December? For no other reason than that they must end in June 1918. Gotta love that prophecy massage.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2012-08-03 12:38:56

      I hadn't considered this before, but you're quite right. It is yet another example of how we can be so sure of an interpretation that we will blithely press the facts to fit the conclusion. October of 1914, it could be argued, has some prophetic significance under our current interpretation of events, but December of that year?
      So let's review the various elements of our interpretation--
      1) A prophetically meaningless start date.
      2) A literal 42 months, but a symbolic 3 1/2 days.
      3) In no way did we finish our preaching work June of 1918.
      4) Contrary to what we teach, Rutherford claimed no significant persecution up to 1917.
      5) The dichotomy of the trampling continuing 45 months past the date we say it ended: October of 1914.
      6) No historical evidence showing how fear fell upon all observers when the 11 were released from prison.
      7) No evidence to support that the dramatic conditions depicted in Rev. 11:5,6 came to pass from December 1914 to June 1918.
      How many holes does it take before we realize that maybe, just maybe, we are reasoning backward from a foregone conclusion, instead of following the evidence where it leads?

    • Reply by Anonymous on 2017-03-20 20:06:43

      don't know what you're talking about. It was Oct 1 when C.T. Russell announced, "the Gentile times have ended."

  • Comment by Nightflyer on 2013-11-05 11:26:04

    There is another problem with the Society's interpretation of Luke 21:24. Jesus was talking about the future trampling, not something that was ongoing in the year 33 when he said those words. He used the word "estai" when he said "will be trampled". The same word is used in Luke 17:24, 26, 30, 31; 21: 7, 11, 23 - and all those verses refer to something that was going to happen in the future and not to something that was already ongoing.
    This means that it is impossible that this "trampling" would have started back in 607 BCE and that is another proof that we cannot link Luke 21:24 with Daniel chapter 4 and the 7 times mentioned there.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2013-11-05 11:28:00

      One more nail in the coffin of the 1914 doctrine.

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