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In Part 2 of this series, we established that there is no scriptural evidence for the existence of a first century governing body. This begs the question, Is there scriptural evidence for the existence of the current one? This is critical to addressing the question of who the faithful and discreet slave really is. The Governing Body members have borne witness that they are the slave Jesus was referring to. They claim that the role of the slave is to be God’s appointed channel of communication. Let’s not mince words here. That role entitles them to be called God’s spokesman. They have not gone so far as to actually say that, but if they are the channel by which Almighty God communicates with his servants, then they are for all intents and purposes His spokesman. When Armageddon comes, Jehovah’s Witnesses expect that any direction from God as to what we are to do will come through this channel of communication.
So again we return to the question: Is there scriptural evidence to support all of this?
True, Jehovah had spokesmen in the past, but he always used individuals, never a committee. Moses, Daniel, the apostle Paul, and foremost of all, Jesus Christ. These spoke under inspiration. Their credentials were established by God himself. Their prophecies never—NEVER—failed to come true.
Let’s review: 1) Individuals, not committees; 2) Credentials established by God; 3) Spoke under inspiration; 4) Prophecies never failed to come true.
The Governing Body meets none of these criteria. This is why when someone challenges a teaching of the Governing Body, the average Witness will not use Bible references in coming to their defense. There simply are none. So instead the defense runs something like this. (To be brutally honest, I’ve used most of this reasoning myself in the recent past.)
“Look at the evidence of Jehovah’s blessing on His Organization.[i] Look at our growth. Look at our record of integrity-keeping in times of persecution. Look at the love of the worldwide brotherhood. What other organization on earth is even close? If the Organization isn’t being blessed by Jehovah, how could we be accomplishing the worldwide preaching work? If we are not the true religion, then who is? Jehovah must be using the Governing Body to lead us, otherwise, we would not be enjoying His blessing.”
For most Witnesses this is sound, logical, virtually irrefutable reasoning. We really don’t want it to be any other way, because the alternative leaves us adrift in a sea of uncertainty. However, as we approach the century mark since the Last Days supposedly started, some of us have begun to re-examine teachings we held to be bedrock. Finding that some key doctrines are false has resulted in a great deal of inner turmoil. The psychological term for this condition is “cognitive dissonance”. On the one hand, we believe we are the true religion. On the other hand, we have come to realize that we are teaching some significant falsehoods; much more than can be explained away by the increasingly trite excuse: “The light is getting brighter”.
Is truth a quantitative thing? If the Catholics have 30% of the truth (to pick a number out of the air) and the Adventists have say, 60%, and we have oh, I don’t know, 85%, can we still be the true religion while calling all the others false? Where is the dividing line? At which percentage point does a false religion become the true one?
There is a way out of this morass of conflicting thoughts and emotions, a way to resolve the cognitive dissonance that can otherwise destroy our spiritual tranquility. That way is not denial which is the course many follow. Troubled by decades of redefining a doctrine to the point of absurdity (Mt. 24:34 comes to mind) many Jehovah’s Witnesses simply refuse to consider the topic anymore; disdaining any conversation that might touch on the offending subject. Simply put, they just “won’t go there”. However, burying our disquieting thoughts deep in our subconscious will only do us harm, and worse, it is not the course approved by Jehovah. How else can we understand the inspired expression: “Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.” (1 Thess. 5:21)
Resolving The Conflict
Resolving this conflict is crucial for our happiness and for re-establishing our relationship with Jehovah. Speaking thematically, it has the added benefit of helping us to identify the faithful and discreet slave.
Let’s start by defining the elements of our belief as Jehovah’s Witnesses.
1) Jehovah has an earthly Organization.
2) Jehovah’s earthly Organization is the true religion.
3) There is scriptural support for our modern day Organization.
4) The empirical evidence proves that Jehovah’s Witnesses make up God’s earthly Organization.
5) The Governing Body is appointed by God to direct his earthly Organization.
Now let’s add in the elements that are causing us to question the above.
6) There is no scriptural evidence that Jesus would ‘arrive’ invisibly during the last days.
7) There is nothing in Scripture establishing 1914 as the start of this supposed second presence.
8) There is nothing in Scripture proving that Jesus inspected his house from 1914 to 1918.
9) There is nothing in Scripture proving that Jesus appointed the slave in 1919
10) There is no evidence that the majority of Christians have no heavenly hope.
11) There is no evidence that Christ is not the mediator for the majority of Christians.
12) There is no evidence that most Christians are not God’s children.
13) There is no evidence for a two-tier system of salvation.
The way many of our brothers would deal with the presentation of these last eight points would be to respond—probably with a good deal of vehemence and self-righteous, though well-meaning, condescension: “Jehovah didn’t appoint you as his faithful slave. Do you think you’re smarter than the brothers on the Governing Body? We have to trust those Jehovah has appointed. If there are things that have to be corrected, then we must wait on Jehovah. Otherwise, we may be guilty of ‘pushing ahead’.”
Those who say such things do not realize—in fact, they would never stop to question—the fact that much of what they have just expressed is (a) based on unproven assumptions, or (b) stands in conflict with known scriptural principles. The fact is that they are far too emotionally invested in what the Organization represents to them to question its place in their life. Like Saul, they will need a radical wake-up call—perhaps not a blinding revelation of the glorified Jesus Christ, but who knows—to shock them into re-evaluating their role in God’s unfolding purpose. Our concern here is with those who, like myself, have already reached that point and are no longer willing to ignore the evidence, even though it means abandoning an albeit false sense of security.
So let us look at the first six points. However, there is one last thing we need to do before getting underway. We have to define the term ‘organization’.
(If you haven’t already figured it out, this whole post comes down to this one crucial point.)
What an Organization Is
The letterhead used by branch offices of Jehovah’s Witnesses around the word displays the term “Christian Congregation” which replaced “Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society” just a few years back. However, in publications and by word of mouth, the word ‘organization’ is more frequently used. Are we playing with words? Are we “being mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words”? Really, are not ‘congregation’ and ‘organization’ simply synonymous concepts; different words to describe the same thing? Let’s see. (1 Tim. 6:3)
“Congregation” comes from the Greek word ekklesia[ii] which means ‘to call out’ or ‘to call forth’. In Scripture, it refers to the people who God has called out of the nations for his name. (Acts 15:14)
“Organization” comes from ‘organ’ which comes from Greek organon which means literally, “that with which one works”; essentially a tool or an instrument. That is why the components of the body are called organs, and the entire body, an organism. The organs are tools that the body works with to perform a task—keeping us alive and functioning. An organization is the administrative counterpart to this, a body of people performing different tasks like the organs of your body, but who collectively serve the whole. Of course, like the human body, to achieve anything, even to simply operate, an organization needs a head. It needs a directing force; leadership in the form of one man, or a board of directors, who will ensure that the purpose of the organization is achieved. Once that purpose has been achieved, the reason for the organization’s existence is gone.
There are many organizations in the world today: NATO, WHO, OAS, UNESCO. The people of the world have created these organizations for specific tasks.
The congregation, those called out for Jehovah’s name, are a people. They will always exist. They can organize themselves for various tasks—construction, disaster relief, preaching—but all those tasks have a finite lifespan. Those organizations will end, new ones will be created, but they are tools that ‘the people’ use to accomplish some purpose. The tool is not the people.
The stated chief purpose of the Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses is to accomplish the worldwide preaching work before the end of this system of things.
Let us be perfectly clear here: We have no problem with the Christian Congregation being organized to accomplish some task. Our Organization has ‘performed many powerful works in God’s name’, but that in and of itself does not ensure the approval of the Lord. (Mt. 7:22, 23)
What an Organization Is Not
The danger with any organization is that it may take on a life of its own. What often happens is that the tool used to serve the people is transformed into a thing which people must serve. The reason this happens is that any organization must have humans directing it. If there are no safeguards imposed on that human authority; if that authority can lay claim to divine right; then the warnings found at Eccl. 8:9 and Jer. 10:23 must apply. God is not one to be mocked. What we sow, we reap. (Gal. 6:7)
It is here where we can show the true difference between the Christian Congregation and the Organization. These are not synonymous terms in our vernacular.
An Experiment
Try this. Open the Watchtower Library program. Access the Search menu and set the Search Scope to “Sentence”. Then copy and paste this string of characters[iii] into the search field and hit Enter.
organi?ation | congregation & loyal*
You will find no reference in the NWT Bible to being loyal to either the congregation or the organization. Now try this one. We’re looking for instances of “obey”, “obeying” or “obedience”.
organi?ation | congregation & obe*
Again, no results from the NWT.
It seems Jehovah doesn’t expect us to obey or be loyal to the congregation. Why? (Since organization is not used in Scripture, it doesn’t factor in at all.)
Did you also check out the number of results obtained for these two queries in The Watchtower? Here are some examples:
- “their fine example of loyalty to Jehovah and his organization.” (w12 4/15 p. 20)
- “let us be determined to remain loyal to Jehovah and to the organization” (w11 7/15 p. 16 par. 8)
- “That is not to say that it was easy for all who remained loyal to the organization to preach publicly.” (w11 7/15 p. 30 par. 11)
- “By being obedient and loyal to the direction received from the earthly part of God’s organization,” w10 4/15 p. 10 par. 12
This helps to explain why the Bible never tells us to be loyal to an organization or congregation. We can only be loyal and obedient to Jehovah and to someone or something else if the two are never in conflict. It is inevitable that any organization run by imperfect humans, no matter how good the intentions of those men may be, will run afoul of God’s law from time to time. Unquestioning obedience to the Organization will require us to disobey God—an unacceptable condition for a true Christian to be in.
Remember, an organization is a tool that serves the people who created it. You do not obey a tool. You would not be loyal to a tool. You would not be expected to sacrifice your life or surrender up a brother for the good of the tool. And when you have finished with the tool, when it has outlived its usefulness, you would simply discard it.
The Crux of the Matter
While the Organization is not synonymous with the Christian Congregation, it is synonymous with the Governing Body. When we are told about “being obedient and loyal to the direction received from the earthly part of God’s organization”, what is really meant is for us to obey what the Governing Body is telling us to do and to loyally support them. (w10 4/15 p. 10 par. 12) “The slave says…” or “The Governing Body says…” or “The Organization says…”—these are all synonymous phrases.
Returning to the Argument
Now that we have defined what the Organization truly represents, let’s review the five points that form the basis of our official position.
1) Jehovah has an earthly Organization.
2) Jehovah’s earthly Organization is the true religion.
3) There is scriptural support for our modern day Organization
4) The empirical evidence proves that Jehovah’s Witnesses make up God’s earthly Organization.
5) The Governing Body is appointed by God to direct his earthly Organization.
The first point rests on the proof obtained from points 3 and 4. Without that proof, there is no evidence that point 1 is true. Even the adjective ‘earthly’ suggests that there is a heavenly organization. That is our belief, but what the Bible talks about is a heaven populated with angelic creatures performing myriads of tasks in God’s service. Yes, they are organized, but the concept of a single universal organization as we’ve defined above is simply not scriptural.
We’ll skip over point 2 for now as that is an emotionally charged topic.
As for point 3, if there is scriptural support for our modern day Organization, I invite our readers to share it with us using the Comments feature of the site. We have not found any. True, there is ample support for the modern congregation, but as we’ve demonstrated, the two words express different concepts. It is our current concept of the Organization as implemented by the Governing Body for which we are seeking and not finding scriptural support.
The main point of contention is number 4. Most Witnesses believe the Organization is being blessed by Jehovah. They take that apparent blessing as evidence of His endorsement of the Organization itself.
Does Jehovah Bless the Organization?
We look at the worldwide expansion of the Organization, and we see Jehovah’s blessing. We look at the love and unity in the Organization, and we see Jehovah’s blessing. We consider the Organization’s record of integrity under trial, and we see Jehovah’s blessing. So we conclude that this must be His Organization and the Governing Body must be working under his direction. Is this sound reasoning or are we falling prey to the logical fallacy that deceived Jacob into thinking that putting spotted staffs in front of the flock would cause speckled sheep to be born? (Gen. 30:31-43) This is known as the fallacy of the false cause.
Are the blessings upon Jehovah’s congregation the result of actions taken by the Governing Body, or the result of faithful acts by the individuals involved at the grass roots level?
Consider this: Jehovah cannot bless an individual while simultaneously withholding blessing. That makes no sense. The Organization is a single entity. He cannot bless it and at the same time, withhold his blessing. If we accept for the sake of argument that it is the Organization that is blessed rather than some of the individuals in the congregation, then what can be said when that blessing is patently not in evidence?
It may surprise some to think that there were times when the Organization was very much not being blessed by God. Take for instance what happened in the 1920s. Here’s a count of memorial attendance during that time, rounded to the nearest thousand
1922 – 33,000
1923 – 42,000
1924 – 63,000
1925 – 90,000
1926 – 89,000
1927 – N/A[iv]
1928 – 17,000[v]
Since we use the growth in the number of Jehovah’s Witnesses as ‘evidence’ of Jehovah’s blessing upon not just His people, not just His congregation, but His organization, we must in honesty take a loss of 4 out of every 5 members as evidence of the withholding of that blessing. Jehovah blesses acts of faith and obedience. Going beyond the things that are written and teaching falsehoods are neither and are condemned in the Bible, so naturally Jehovah wouldn’t bless an organization practicing such things. (1 Cor. 4:6; Deut. 18:20-22) Do we attribute this 80% drop in memorial attendance to Jehovah having withdrawn his blessing? We do not! We blame, not the leadership which misled the congregation with false hope, but the members themselves. Our common reason of late is that some did not want to participate in the door-to-door work and fell away. The facts do not support this prevarication. The push to ‘advertise the king and his kingdom’ began in 1919. The push to have regular field service (as we now call it) by having all congregation members participate in the door-to-door preaching work began in 1922. We experienced phenomenal growth up from 1919 to 1925. This belies the claim that any reduction in numbers was due to the failure of some to obey Christ’s command to make disciples.
No, the evidence is strong that four out of five left the Organization because they realized that the men they had been following were teaching them false doctrine. Why do we not imitate the candor of the Bible writers in admitting our error and taking responsibility for it? When Jehovah blesses the efforts of faithful individuals in making disciples, our numbers grow. However, we claim this shows his blessing upon the entity which is the Organization. However, when our numbers decrease, we are quick to shift the blame the rank and file for ‘lacking faith’, rather than the leadership; rather than the Organization.
The same thing happened again in 1975. Numbers increased based on false hope and fell when disillusionment set in. Again, we blamed the rank and file for lack of faith, but the leadership took little if any responsibility for teaching falsehood.
Explaining the Blessing
Still, some will counter, how can you explain the blessings we are receiving. We don’t have to because the Bible explains them for us. Jehovah blesses faith and obedience. For example, Jesus told us to “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations…” (Mt. 28:19) If some enterprising Christians in modern times choose to make use of printing technology to accomplish this work more effectively, Jehovah will bless them. As they continue to organize and gather others to their cause, Jehovah will continue to bless them. He blesses individuals. If some of those individuals begin to use their newfound position to ‘beat their fellow slaves’, they will find that Jehovah will begin to withdraw His blessing. Not necessarily all at once, just as He continued to bless King Saul for a time until there came a point of no return. But even if He withholds blessing from some, He can still bless others. So the work gets done, but some will take credit for it when all credit should go to God.
Disarming the Argument
So the argument that the Governing Body has been appointed by God because Jehovah is blessing his Organization is rendered moot. Jehovah blesses his people, not collectively, but individually. Get enough genuine Christians together and it may look like the entity we call the Organization is being blessed, but it is still the individuals who are getting the holy spirit.
God doesn’t pour out his holy spirit on an administrative concept, but on living creatures.
In Summary
The purpose of this post has been to demonstrate that we cannot use the argument that there is an earthly organization set up by God and directed by the Governing Body to prove their claim to being not only the faithful and discreet slave, but also God’s appointed channel of communication. In our next post, we’ll try to show from Scripture who really is that slave.
However, in discussing this topic, we have touched on a very emotional subject (the skipped point #2) which should not be left unanswered.
Are We the True Religion?
I grew up with the belief that I was in the one true religion. I believed that all other religions were going to be destroyed as part of Babylon the Great in fulfillment of Revelation chapter 18. I believed that as long as I stayed within the arklike, mountainlike Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I would be saved.
“How urgent it is in the short remaining time for one to identify himself with the New World society within the arklike new system of things!“ (w58 5/1 p. 280 par. 3)
“…taking refuge in Jehovah and his mountainlike organization.” (w11 1/15 p. 4 par. 8)
From earliest childhood, I have been taught that we have the truth, in fact, that we are ‘in the truth’. You are either in the truth or in the world. It’s a very binary approach to salvation. There was even a mechanism for dealing with the times we have been wrong about things, like 1975 or the meaning of “this generation”. We would say that Jehovah hadn’t chosen to reveal those things to us yet, but that He lovingly corrected us when we had deviated and because we love truth, we humbly accepted the correction and adjusted our way of thinking to bring the Organization more in line with the divine purpose.
The key to all this is that we love truth and so when we come to realize that we are wrong about something we humbly change, not holding on to false teachings and the traditions of men. That attitude is what sets us apart from all the other religions on earth. That is the distinguishing feature of true religion.
This was all well and good until I came to learn that beliefs that are core to our religion—that distinguish us from all other religions in Christendom—are not based on Scripture, and that for decades we have been resisting all attempts made to rectify these erroneous teachings. Worse, we deal most harshly with those who will not be quiet about these errors in doctrine.
Jesus said to the Samaritan woman, “Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:23, 24)
He doesn’t refer to an entity like some true Organization or even some true religion, but the “true worshipers”. He’s focusing on the individuals.
Worship is about reverence of God. It is about having a relationship with God. It can be illustrated by the relationship between a father and his young children. Each child should love the father, and the father loves each in a special one-on-one relationship. Each child has faith that the father always keeps his word, so each child is loyal and obedient. All the children are in one big family. You would not compare a family to an organization. It would not be an apt comparison, because a family doesn’t have a goal, a singular purpose for which it is organized. A family simply is. You could compare the congregation to a family however. That is why we refer to each other as brothers. Our relationship with the Father does not depend on an organization of any kind. Nor is there a need to codify this relationship into a belief system.
That we have an organization to help us perform certain tasks can be helpful. For example, the latest efforts to translate and publish the good news in languages spoken by only a tiny minority shows the diligence and dedication of countless true Christians. However, there is always the danger of confusing the tool with true worship. If we do, we can become just like every other ‘organized religion’ on the face of the earth. We begin to serve the tool, rather than using it to serve us.
Jesus spoke of a separating work done by angels in which first the weeds are bound in bundles, after which the wheat is gathered into the Master’s storehouse. We teach that the storehouse is the Organization and the gathering began in 1919. Ignoring for the moment that there is no scriptural evidence for that date, one has to ask: Would Jehovah use as a storehouse an organization that persists in teaching falsehoods? If not, then what is it? And why did Jesus say the weeds are gathered first and wrapped in bundles to be burned.
Rather than trying to find some organized religion and stamping it with the label “the true religion”, perhaps we should recall that Jesus’ first century disciples were not part of some organization, but rather were simply true worshippers who worshipped in spirit and truth. They didn’t even have a name until sometime (likely 46 C.E.) when they were first called Christians in the city of Antioch, Syria. (Acts. 11:26)
Therefore, the true religion is Christianity.
If you or I as individuals worship the Father in spirit and truth, then we will reject false doctrine. That is the essence of Christianity. Individuals stocks of wheat (true Christians) will continue to grow amongst weeds (imitation Christians) until the harvest—which didn’t begin in 1919. Can we do so while remaining in an Organized religion which doesn’t teach the whole truth? The simple truth is that true Christians have been doing just that for the past 2,000 years. That is the point of Jesus’ illustration. That is why the wheat and weeds are so hard to separate until the harvest.
The Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses is helpful to us in accomplishing many good things, even powerful works. It is a useful tool to help us to gather together with likeminded Christians and continue to incite each other to love and fine works. (Heb. 10:24, 25) Many Jehovah’s Witnesses are accomplishing fine works and appear to be wheat, while others even now seem to be manifesting the characteristics of weeds. However, we cannot know for sure which is which. We don’t read hearts and the harvest is not yet. During the conclusion of the system of things, the wheat and weeds will be distinguishable.
There will come a time when the cry will go out that Babylon the great has fallen. (There is no scriptural reason to believe this already occurred in 1918.) It is interesting that the exhortation found at Rev. 18:4 “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins…” is evidently addressed to true Christians while they are still in Babylon the Great; otherwise, why call them out of her? At that time, wheat-like Christians will recall the dire warning of Revelation 22:15: “Outside are the dogs and…everyone liking and carrying on a lie.”
What will become of the Organization as an entity, only time will tell. A people may continue, but an organization if finite. It is formed to accomplish something and is not needed when that goal has been attained. It surely will end when it has accomplished its purpose, but the congregation will go on.
There is a curious illustration which Jesus uses at Mt. 24:28. After telling his true worshipers not to be deceived into believing in false hidden presences of the Son of man, he speaks of a carcass above which eagles are flying. Some entity will be dead, but individual true worshippers likened to far-sighted eagles will once again gather together for their salvation just before the start of Armageddon.
Whatever that turns out to be, let us prepare ourselves to be among them when that time arrives. Our salvation depends not on obedience to an Organization or group of men, but on faith, loyalty and obedience to Jehovah and his anointed king. That is how we worship God in spirit and truth.
The only credential from God is one’s being anointed. Even that is hard to prove now, considering how the number of partakers continually increases now. Couple that with the fact that the Bible no where says or implies members of the anointed are not appointed to GB by God. That’s bugged me about this whole thing since day one.
Hi all, It’s a definite fact that the GB/Watchtower Society [aka Faithful Slave] does not encourage in any way, independent study of the Bible. However, I do not believe it is because a person could not learn the truth if they would follow the advice given in Proverbs to “search” for it, as one would for “silver” or “hid treasures.” This is my belief. I am reminded of this passage from the book of Proverbs which plainly tells us: “if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, if you keep seeking… Read more »
I take exception to the term “channel” that the “faithful and discreet slave” uses to describe their communication with God. They use this word in reference to receiving direction from Jehovah. This is a quote from the Watchtower 6/15/09: “We likewise respect Jehovah’s direction given through his channel and join in praising him.” This is only one of many times they refer to themselves as the channel through which they receive God’s direction. The word channel or channeling is associated with mediumship. This is a quote from Wikipedia on that subject: “Mediumship also forms part of the belief-system of some… Read more »
Emily You make a valid point about the use of the terms “channel” and “channeling”. I had not considered that before. I don’t personally know any elders that claim to speak to God, but what you say is true. Somehow the perception among the individuals is that somehow such a thing is taking place. How does such flawed thinking arise? It can only be through what is said from the platform and through publications. Even though it is never taught in such an explicit way, the cumulative effect of what is taught seems to encourage this conclusion. It’s subtle, but… Read more »
Great Site! I am extremely disturbed at the WTBTS’s actions. Disgusted really. After learning TTATT, I see the ” operation of error ” everywhere. It’s a blessing and a burden. The WTBTS really has claimed to be ” mouthpiece ” or prophet of YHWH. I know that no matter how much we learn, there seems to be something in the WT CD Library or an older book that we missed. I found something very telling just this week. Just look up the 05/15/1955 Watchtower. There are two articles that plainly show the GB’s belief that they are the “channel” for… Read more »
Thanks for bringing these articles to our attention. I hadn’t seen the acronym TTATT before. I understand it originated in 1998 and means “The Thing Around The Thing”, but it has been appropriated by some anti-JW groups to mean “The Truth About The Truth”. While agreeing with that concept, we do not wish to become associated with groups whose main goal is to attack Jehovah’s Witnesses. We do feel that the truth speaks for itself, so unmasking falsehood and revealing truth will lead honest-hearted ones to make a conscientious decision on their own. With that in mind, it is worthwhile… Read more »
Not wishing to reignite a passionate response, EmilyJeff, I think it only necessary to allow Jesus to respond as to why he left out Micah 7:5. Thank you for your opinion.
Smolderingwick1 I took offence to your remark regarding Micah 7:5. What was the point you were making if not to denigrate women’s position before God and Christ. Just what were you implying when you said and I quote “I can only guess that there was lots of family controversy then which wasn’t so silent as we tend to be in our so-called politically corrected manner today.” Yes society today is more politically correct but among Jehovah’s Witnesses sexist talk is the norm. Perhaps you should read Galatians 3:26-28: “26 For you are all children of God through faith in Christ… Read more »
Thank you EmilyJeff for giving us a woman’s perspective on this. Our society is male-oriented, our Organization is male-oriented, and we all suffer the affects of Adam’s sin on the male psyche. (“…and he will dominate you.” — Gen. 3:16) Once again, it is Jesus who leads the way, if we, as men, will only follow.
I’ve always been somewhat confused about how the GB applies certain prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures to “apostate” Christendom. The truth of the matter is that the primary application was always to the people who claimed to be in a covenant relationship with Jehovah based on the Law of Moses. Why should we then think that such prophecies, good or bad, apply to anyone other than those who claim to be in the new covenant, including members of the GB?
It seems many are facing the dilemma of how to respond to those in our congregations who like their ancient counterparts in the time of Jesus are becoming righteous over much and persecuting those who dare to differ with established doctrine. Coincidentally, I’ve been reading the accounts in Matthew where the Jews (specifically the Pharisees and Sadducees, though the priests were backing them up) were trying to trap Jesus. Mt. 19:3 says, “And Pharisees came up to him, intent on tempting him and saying: ‘Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on every sort of ground?'” Some… Read more »
Thank you brothers, for your input. I read carefully everything you wrote from Meleti’s response to my post down to the last post. It is a lot of information which, hopefully, I will be able to respond to within a few days.
Hi again Vassy Just one further thought I meant to include re God’s people have always been organized … May I suggest that such a generalization can get us into trouble. In like manner someone might say “God’s people have always had a human mediator”. It would appear to be true if someone wanted to make such an argument pointing to, for example, the patriarchs, Moses, the priests, the prophets. But the fact is that Christianity is different. It has no human equivalent since it has someone far superior as the mediator. My point is that we can’t just say… Read more »
No, Meleti, I’ve never had it happen ever since this arrangement was started. One brother not recommended for the reason stated above asked us, “Is my wife being recommended also?” I think it’s all about control and a lack of trust in the local Elder Bodies.
Hello all. Great comments. Personally I feel that when it comes to these kind of topics, it is very important to return to the scriptures. Particularly on what to do when confronted with a situation where you cannot freely share your thoughts and concerns with other fellow christians.. The words of Micah chapter 7 apply. Particularly verse seven….”Too bad for me, for I have become like the gatherings of summer fruit, like the gleaning of a grape gathering! There is no grape cluster to eat, no early fig, that my soul would desire! 2 The loyal one has perished from… Read more »
Thank you for bringing Mal. 7:1-7 to our attention. What an excellent scripture and how apt to the situation of many in the congregation today.
There truly is something in the Scriptures to cover every eventuality we must face.
Interesting that Jesus actually quoted Micah 7:6 but left out verse 5 which concluded with “From her who is lying in your bosom guard the openings of your mouth.” I have often wondered how the respective wives of the apostles (who were never mentioned) reacted to the departure of their husbands to follow Christ. Perhaps most were not married and had no children, that’s a big ‘suppose’. Then again was Jesus being merciful by excluding ‘her’ from his quote from Micah? I can only guess that there was lots of family controversy then which wasn’t so silent as we tend… Read more »
I agree with you, Meleti. Company men in their thirties who come into a congregation and question a recommendation of six or seven Elders, men with a combined experience of many years serving God. His ojection will be over the fact that a brother’s wife has low hours in the ministry. “Wait until next time around”, he’ll say.
Six or ten or fifteen elders, it doesn’t matter. Has anyone ever heard of a circuit overseer ever being overruled when he differs with an entire elder body over a recommendation?
Great comment, anderestimme! We had a CO leave the traveling work and become part of our congregation. He never did take the CO mantle off and tried to throw his weight around as the final authority on some matters. Many of the brothers, especially younger Elders, were intimidated by his reputation and would not challenge anything he said.
I remember a CO giving a talk at our hall stating, “When Momma, (the organization), says jump you don’t ask why, you ask , ‘How high?'”
As if blind obedience to men were a virtue. From the standpoint of someone whose entire life could be submitted to drastic and unwelcome changes for insubordination (i.e. a CO), that makes perfect, self-preservationist, sense. What it has to do with serving the Most High is, apparently, not a consideration. This is, I think, one reason why the org doesn’t make use of all those retired, experienced elders out there to do the work the COs do. It would save us all a lot of money and avail the congregations of the experience of brothers who have worked and raised… Read more »
I have been increasingly uncomfortable with the new arrangement of enlisting younger men, in the thirties, to be Circuit Overseers. They are way too gung ho for my tastes. At first, I thought the motive was largely financial as they can get a lot of years out of men that age before they become responsible for caring for them in the golden years.
However, they also often appear to be Company men, An pejorative term which unfortunately in many instances is also accurate. Your logic fits in with what I and others have observed of late.
Yup. Getting them young and ignorant allows the GB to indoctrinate them into their teachings. Think about what’s been taught the last 20 years. If someone is 35, they’ve learned virtually nothing deep. And they’ve grown up in a climate of obedience, not discernment. They’ll do whatever they’re told.
I would say that when we start calling the organization “mother”, we have a problem. We have personified it, made it something we must obey, rather than something we use to do the will of our God.
BTW, when I heard the term “spiritual mother” at last year’s DC, the first thing that came to mind was Mary worship, and the more I thought about it, mother goddess worship in general. Anybody else get that idea?
After that I thought of the computer in the movie “Alien”, but I won’t bother asking if anyone else had THAT thought.
You make a fine point, and yes my jaw dropped through that whole symposium. Not so much because of the association with Mary, although I can see that now in terms of how Catholics view her as an authority figure. My problem was that a Christian “Draw people to …” symposium had no place for Jesus Christ.
Well, if Mother really is the Earth Branch of God’s Organization, to which Jesus belongs, we can just cut out the middle man, now can’t we?
Now there’s a thought. I don’t know how I missed that. Jesus refers to his faithful followers as brothers. So if the earthly Organization is our mother, then it must be Jesus’ mother as well. Such hubris!
Hi Meleti, It is not my intention to defend the Organization or condone the attitude of the GB as is noticeable over the last years, but I’m afraid that many brothers, disillusioned by many errors within the Organization, go to the other extreme and discard everything related to the notion of ‘organization’. Many brothers have, over the last years, adopted the concept that God did not have an organization in the first century. True, there was no corporation, as is now the WTS, but God’s people have always been organized. And even if the concept of organization is not explicitly… Read more »
Hi Vassy, As I’ve stated both in this post and others, I have no problem with the idea of being organized for accomplishing a purpose. It is not the concept of organization which is being challenged but the fact that the Organization has become something far more than a group of Christians organized to perform a function or carry out a work. The authority of this Organization has, in many instances, replaced the authority of the Christ. What Eph. 4:11-16 depicts is a spiritual organism with Jesus as the head. This is not what we have. The illustration on page… Read more »
Dear Meleti, Not to take away from anything you have said and Vassy’s concern over some “throwing the baby out with the bathwater,” but just to remind all of our present-day platform as it has been compared to that of the first century congregation. We must be accountable for what we have stated. Even our second baptismal question states clearly that we are now in association with “God’s spirit-directed organization.” If such is now the case, then we have made ourselves accountable to that spiritual claim and as such have put ourselves upon the same platform as those of the… Read more »
Hi Vassy I read your reply with great interest. Here are a few thoughts. Organization implied by Gamaliel’s words … As you point out the focus is on “this work” not “this organization”. Therefore to draw the conclusion that organization is implied is to fall back on the question – but how could God have this work fulfilled without a structured earthly organization? “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:26). Again, for proof of that, note that the gospel message survived and grew for centuries with no earthly organization, or at least none… Read more »
Well researched, Apollos. Thank you. As always, you add additional dimensions to any discussion. The complete text of Paul’s words to the Galatians about the “outstanding men” really do paint a very different picture from the one we are expected to have regarding the alleged status of the alleged first century governing body. It is interesting to consider as well that he a) was inspired to say this for the benefit of posterity and b) shared these views with the Galatian congregation of the day. Imagine saying something similar in print today about the members of the Governing Body. I… Read more »
Hello Vassy, thanks for your post. Just to give you the way I see things, which may be slightly different. I see that Meleti has already addressed many of your questions above. I am not saying that I am eager to get rid of the organization. In fact as Meleti pointed out, each body needs a head to function. I would rather say I want the organization to fulfill its purpose and keep its place. The organization is the tool to serve the people, not the other way around. For example, lets say you are following instructions to build a… Read more »
A very apt illustration, Hezekiah1. That really puts things into their proper perspective. The Organization should be a protection for us, like a house, but not our Master. Never that. Our Master is one, the Christ.
I really appreciate this illustration and will keep it in mind when this topic comes up in conversation.
Thank you,
Meleti
Thank you for this post Meleti !!! I appreciated how you laid out the break-down of Jehovah’s spokesmen in the past: 1) Individuals, not committees; 2) Credentials established by God; 3) Spoke under inspiration; 4) Prophecies never failed to come true; Many of us can see that the GB does not fit the above criteria. When men attach God’s name to their private interpretations, say that they are doing it on the basis of the Bible, build up arguments for these from the Bible, and assert that they are God’s “channel” of communication—what is the effect when their interpretations prove… Read more »
Thank you once again Meleti, as said above you have clearly outlined what we were thinking but had not put in to words. I cannot fault your article, either scripturally or logically. The only argument one could use against your words is as you say toward the end, an emotional one, but Truth and Emotion are often not good bedfellows. I was baptised way back in 1962, so my “dedication” was to Jehovah and Jesus, I was not baptised in to an Organization as later JW’s were, and I never vowed loyalty to one. Even so, I feel pain that… Read more »
We have a lot in common, Harrison. We’re both longtime Witnesses facing a serious conscientious decision–a personal turning point, if you will. Like you, my dedication was to Jehovah, not the Organization, but I have given my life to its cause. Jehovah remembers the work we have done in his name, so I get comfort from that. Besides, if we are to live forever, these past decades are a drop in the bucket. Still, the threat of a disfellowshipping and the subsequent cutting off from one’s family and friends makes any course of action we decide upon far from trivial.… Read more »
This is a very well researched and written article and very thought provoking. My simple opinion of who would be able to identify the “faithful slave” would be that you would not be able to identify him (group) not for sure anyway, but Jesus certainly would as he is the one who will be inspecting them. This “faithful slave” would also be very “discreet” not blowing their own trumpet that they are the “faithful slave”. They would virtually be doing this, without hardly any of the domestics knowing that it is they who are feeding and caring for them. Of… Read more »
We seem to be of one mind on this. I’m looking forward in the next post to exploring the two accounts of the faithful slave in depth.
Thanks for sharing these thoughts.
The comments on this particular post have been most upbuilding.
By all means, Meleti, Anything I can do to assist you I will do. We are in such need to help our brothers within ….. I’m actually praying for those in positions of oversight because they’re in an impossible dilemma. When I began studying there was hope of repentance for our organizational sins but now that the Governing Body has taken such a Pharisaical stand, we who cling to Christ have needed to become surreptitious, guarded in all of our speech. I know why they have done this. And it’s the very reason Jesus targeted the scribes and Pharisees. They… Read more »
Thank you, SmolderingWick1. That left me reeling. I can see the parallel point by point as I read down the list. What a sobering revelation. One can only wonder at what other practices common among us are merely the result of, not divine direction, but Groupthink. Would you mind if I borrowed this to work into a future post?
Dear Meleti, You analysis of the organization reminds me of something I studied several years ago called “groupthink”—When too much cohesion is a dangerous thing in groups where the members become more concerned about maintaining positive group spirit than about making realistic decisions. Examples of groupthink that have been studied include the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba in the 1960s, the Vietnam War, and the space shuttle Challenger disaster in January 1986. The major symptoms are identified and described below: SYMPTOM: Illusion of invulnerability DESCRIPTION: Ignoring obvious danger signals, overoptimism, taking extreme risks SYMPTOM: Collective rationalization DESCRIPTION: Discrediting or… Read more »
Thank you for your continued hard work in our behalf. I was truly speechless after reading your commentary. You use a fine line of reasoning that is easy to follow. I’ve stopped using the term “the Truth” because I’ve come to realize that what we’re teaching is not pure and many things are not the truth. How well you’ve analyzed this! I no longer have faith in the Organization or in every word that comes down the pipeline. It was my error for ever doing so. Your writings have helped me to clear away so much fluff from my own… Read more »
Thank you for your kind words, Dorcas. I find as I prepare these commentaries that I’m learning as I write. But for me the biggest benefit is that others are moved to share their insights and research, so that all are enriched. This was our hope in starting this forum. My hope now is that this trend continues to grow as more and more brothers and sisters overcome the indoctrinated bias against expressing themselves freely on the internet and participate. Used for things like this, the internet is an incredible tool which allows like-minded Christians from all over the world… Read more »
Have any of you that are Brothers, as I am, had a chance to actually make an expression of what you really belive in any congregation meeting without any backlash? Just like to know.
I fear that in most congregations that would be most unwise. The power of Groupthink is too strong. (See SmolderingWicks1 comment below.)
Hello Andronicus, I really thought about this before I put it in writing. The reason is that it pains me to tell the truth in this regard. I have always thought we as JW were open and welcoming. Quick to help others when they had questions. Yet I can see we have developed a suspicious attitude towards our brothers and sisters in this regard. I would think that speaking about your feelings with others can be a problem. I know firsthand of situations where a brother has spoken about his feelings to a trusted friend, and more than a year… Read more »
Yes HEZEKIAH1, Caution IS the better part of valor. I am often reminded of when we would send our brothers into the field ministry how Jesus trained the apostles and later 70 others yet somehow we missed reminding them that the ones being visited were fellow Jews who were already firmly pummeled by the scribes and Pharisees in their synagogues to believe that any teaching beyond theirs was false. Hence Jesus warning in Matthew 10:16, 17: “Look! I am sending YOU forth as sheep amidst wolves; therefore prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. Be on YOUR… Read more »
Sorry that wasn’t worded well. It should have read “yet somehow WE missed reminding them.”
Hi SmolderingWick1,
I’ve fixed the comment for you.
Meleti
Andronicus, I’ll respond to your question. There is really no way to say what one believes openly without backlash. When I stepped down as elder for many of the reasons that have been mentioned on this blog I naively thought that although the other elders wouldn’t agree with me they would at least respect my viewpoint. How wrong I was. It was stated I was prideful and arrogant when nothing could be farther from the truth. The Society has always stated that if someone no longer agrees with them it is out of pride and the local elders of course… Read more »
If I might encourage you, erick, there comes a time when we would be wise simply to refuse to answer a “do you believe…” question. Jesus often simply asked another question. We might even ask them whether they believe that only Jehovah’s Witnesses will survive Armageddon? I’m sure that if all were asked, not 50% of us would be so bold as to say yes. But let’s just say that Jehovah has chosen this as his organization. How many of us can honestly say that we will be saved simply by believing and staying within the confines of it? Did… Read more »
Thank you Sm1. I’ve learned to refuse to talk with the elders about my opinions about the organization. They have wanted several times to go over Watchtower articles that deal with loyalty to the org. and I’ve only thanked them for their concern and said that I’d let them know if I wanted to talk. I would discourage any MS or elder who wants to step down from their assignment from telling the real reason why they desire to step down. I would simply say that stress has interfered with your ability to serve. This would no doubt be true… Read more »
Understood TOTALLY, erick. Fortunately my reasons were not shared and I have done just as you said. When you said “It was stated I was prideful and arrogant when nothing could be farther from the truth,” this also happened to me when I began to partake of the emblems at memorial. I was accused of elevating myself as superior above everyone else, but when FDS status was taken away from all anointed except the Governing Body, I was able to point to recent Watchtower articles to prove that I was anything but superior. Indeed, there is a pecking order isn’t… Read more »
I thought about accessibility during yesterday’s WT study. Apparently, it doesn’t apply to the Organization or the GB since they have made no attempt to listen to what the ‘rank and file’ have to say.
Excellent point! If a publisher writes into the branch asking a question about some scriptural interpretation, the letter is filed. If too many letters come in, they will inform the body of elders who will be directed to deal with the matter. Not exactly an inducement to free and unfettered access.
Yes anderestimme, I learned a long time ago that free speech is for the outside world. If a suggestion is offered without request, it is not looked on in the most favorable light. That is why I am grateful we have forums like this in which to have frank and honest discussion regarding Bible truth. I was thinking yesterday as i read the WT how Jehovah deals with his servants in a most dignified way. He truly is impartial and approachable. We are told to imitate HIS qualities, yet i see, as you have pointed out, it doesn’t apply to… Read more »
I agree, hezekiak1. After all is said and done we still have to carry our own load and walk very closely in the footsteps of the Master. 1 Peter 2:21
One comment on paragraph 7 yesterday went something like this:
“Even the military allows a soldier the expression, ‘Permission to speak freely, sir!’ to address his commanding officer—the point being that elders should not to be so commanding that we need to ask the same when approaching them.”
Excellent article, Meleti. I’ved always had a problem with the expression, “Member” of the GB. Sounds to me like some exclusive Men’s Club.Thought about this during yesterday’s WT study addressing the subject of “Impartiality”.
Meleti V. why are you taking out my comments? what are you afraid of?….The Truth..
The “Commenting Etiquette” page of the site lays down clear guidelines. See http://meletivivlon.com/commenting-etiquette/ We want the site to be a place where Jehovah’s Witnesses can come and engage in honest and open discussions of scriptural issues. Mutual respect for each other’s person, feelings and beliefs is crucial to maintaining that atmosphere. The guidelines do not hinder free and candid speech, but applying them will preserve the peace and harmony which is key to upbuilding one another in the spirit of the Lord. Might I suggest that when you feel strongly about some subject that you draft your comment and then… Read more »
Thanks Meleti for this article. I find this somewhat of a relief. 1) I have often thought that if we have the truth, then when we “refine:” our thinking, did this mean we didn’t have the truth before? Or do we have the truth now? Its either we have 100% truth or we don’t. I loved the explanation of the truth as a percentage. Really, at what point does false religion become true religion? A good question. 2) There has never been any scriptural evidence that if a representative of Jehovah had a message for his people that they got… Read more »
Thank you, Hezekiah1. Writing this post was a real challenge, but it helped me to get these issues straight in my own mind.
I look forward to reading your additional thoughts soon.
When you mentioned the way organizations can come to have a life of their own, I couldn’t help but think of the ‘image of the wild beast’ in Revelation 13:15 “And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast.” We might call it the “deified organization syndrome”. It’s a danger all human organizations run, and I would guess that the nobler the cause,… Read more »
Thanks for all your hard work Meleti.
In my opinion this is a milestone article. I was already in agreement with you over the distinction between organization and congregation (or brotherhood), but never before have I appreciated with such clarity why this is so true from a scriptural perspective.
You have separated the issues in a remarkable way and shown how serious errors in thinking have entered in by those who believe in the rightness of an Organization above all.
Apollos