[From ws 15/01 p. 13 for March 9-15]
“Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” – 1 Cor. 11:24
A more appropriate title for this week’s Watchtower study would be “How We Observe the Lord’s Evening Meal.” The “why” is answered in the article’s opening paragraph. After that, the rest of the article is intended to instruct the eight million Jehovah’s Witnesses on how we observe the Memorial. This instruction can be summed up in one sentence: Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Lord’s Evening Meal by observing the Lord’s Evening Meal.
That is not gobbledygook. The sentence makes perfect sense when you consider these two definitions for the verb “to observe” taken from the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary:
- Mark or acknowledge (a festival, anniversary, etc.) by due rites; perform (a ceremony, rite, etc.)
- Take notice of; be aware of seeing; remark, perceive, see.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are instructed not to observe (perform a ceremony or due rites; i.e., partake of the emblems) the Lord’s Evening Meal, but merely to observe (take notice, be aware of seeing, watch) it.
In a nutshell, that is all this article is about. However, is this true? Is this really what Jesus wants us to do when we gather together on April 3rd, 2015 to commemorate his death?
Why We Observe the Memorial
Let us go back to the “why” in keeping with the article’s title. The theme text is taken from 1 Corinthians 11:24. However, many verses from that chapter are referenced and quoted in the article. Here they are:
“When you come together in one place, it is not really to eat the Lord’s Evening Meal. 21 For when you eat it, each one takes his own evening meal beforehand, so that one is hungry but another is intoxicated. 22 Do you not have houses for eating and drinking? Or do you despise the congregation of God and make those who have nothing feel ashamed? What can I say to you? Should I commend you? In this I do not commend you. 23 For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night on which he was going to be betrayed took a loaf, 24 and after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes. 27 Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 First let a man approve himself after scrutiny, and only then let him eat of the loaf and drink of the cup. 29 For the one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment against himself. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and quite a few are sleeping in death. 31 But if we would discern what we ourselves are, we would not be judged. 32 However, when we are judged, we are disciplined by Jehovah, so that we may not become condemned with the world. 33 Consequently, my brothers, when you come together to eat it, wait for one another. 34 If anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, so that when you come together it is not for judgment. But as for the remaining matters, I will put them in order when I get there.” (1Co 11:20-34)
The reason that verse 26 is greyed out is that it is the only verse not referenced even once in this entire Watchtower study. This is particularly strange because it is the one verse that answers the question posed by the article’s title.
Question: Why do we observe the Lord’s Evening Meal?
Answer: To proclaim him until he arrives.
We only focus on verse 24 which says that we observe in remembrance. You can remember without doing anything but you cannot proclaim without doing anything. Remembrance fits right in with the idea of a multitude of silent, passive observers. However, for an organization that puts preaching and proclamation on the highest of pedestals, it must seem odd to the casual observer that we’d pass on the opportunity to bring this front and center.
Nevertheless, it’s not really odd at all. Focusing on verse 26 would require us to deal with some uncomfortable questions. Even verse 24 raises questions if we read all of it and not just the phrase “keep doing this in remembrance of me.” As you can see above, that phrase occurs twice, once in verse 23 and again in 24. Each time he says it, he is passing the emblems—the bread and the wine. So his apostles were eating the bread and drinking the wine when Jesus said “keep doing this…”. Then in verse 26 the apostle Paul clarifies the purpose. The action of eating the bread, and the action of drinking the wine, amounts to a public proclamation of the Lord’s existence prior to his public manifestation upon his return.
Action! Action! Action! There is nothing here about a group that will stand off to one side, silently observing while holding themselves back from any form of participation.
So why does the article contradict this idea?
What Does the Evidence Point to?
According to the Governing Body, Christians need some sort of clear evidence that they should partake. Barring that, they are required only to attend and observe.
“Gratitude to God and his Son should move us to be present at the commemoration of Jesus’ death, thus obeying the command: ‘Keep doing this in remembrance of me.’” – Par. 5
“We would never want to show disrespect for Jesus’ sacrifice. So we do not partake of the emblems if we do not have clear evidence that we are anointed.” (Simplified Edition)
What is this evidence? Where is the instruction to Christians on what they must do if they lack this evidence?
There is an even more serious question to consider. Jesus gave his disciples a command: “Keep doing this.” He said nothing about standing as quiet observers. He was talking about partaking of the bread and wine. So if we don’t partake, we are disobeying Jesus. Disobedience to our Lord is a death sentence. So we really need a counter command to be safe, don’t we? We need something that is clearly from our Lord which directs us not to partake if we fail to meet certain criteria, or if we fall into a different category of Christian. Where do we find such a directive? It clearly isn’t good enough to say on Judgment Day, “I didn’t obey you Lord, because these guys told me not to.” The excuse that “I was just following orders” simply won’t cut it then.
So again, what “clear evidence” is the Governing Body providing to us?
Paragraph 14 states: “Those who partake of the Memorial emblems are absolutely sure that they are part of the new covenant.” Being absolutely sure of something does not constitute evidence. Millions are absolutely sure there is no God. Millions more are absolutely sure that man evolved from single celled organisms.
How Can We Know?
How did the apostles know they were members in the New Covenant? Was it because they had some mysterious revelation only they were privy to? Not at all. They knew because someone with impeccable credentials whom they trusted implicitly told them so. Jesus said, “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood.” (1Co 11:25) There was no miraculous self-awareness.
How did the Israelites know they were in the Law Covenant? Again, people they trusted taught them and their words were backed up by the holy writings. There was no miraculous self-awareness.
How did any of Jehovah’s servants know they were in any of the covenants and/or agreements God made with them? Again, they were told by sources that were unimpeachable. There was no moment of miraculous calling.
I believed I was not in the new covenant, but was one of the “other sheep” (as defined by Jehovah’s Witnesses) with an earthly hope, because my parents—two people I trusted implicitly—told me so. They in turn believed because their Bible instructors—again, people they trusted implicitly—told them so. They in turn believed because someone higher up the spiritual food chain instructed them. This trust made us let down our guard. We did not verify from the holy writings to see if these things were so. (1Jo 4:1)
It is time to stop trusting uninspired humans and to start verifying what we are told in the light of Scripture.
Paragraph 15 continues, “The anointed know that they are also part of the Kingdom covenant. (Read Luke 12:32)” How do they know? Luke 12:32 does not provide the answer unless we want to accept circular reasoning as valid proof.
The Doctrinal Linchpin
So what is our “clear evidence” that we are in, or not in, the New Covenant?
“God’s spirit ‘bears witness’ with them, so that they know without a doubt that they are his anointed sons.” – Par. 16, quoting from Romans 8:16
That’s it! This is the only Scripture ever used to support our teaching that the anointed are miraculously called out from the larger group of Christians. It is the linchpin of our teaching.
Let us be clear. The Governing Body is basing your—YOUR—hope of salvation on their interpretation of precisely how God’s spirit “bears witness”. Based on this interpretation, they are telling you that you can disobey a direct command of Jesus to partake. In fact, they are telling you that to partake shows disrespect for the Son of God, which is a sin.
Let us use some reasoning here. The Governing Body claim to be the Faithful and Discreet slave. They must therefore be the very epitome of faithfulness and discretion (wisdom). Is that reflected in their teachings. This is important, because we are basing our hope of salvation on their unique interpretation of Romans 8:16. To answer that, let us examine just one example of their track record, the minor point of whether the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah will return in the resurrection. Their position has changed a total of seven times! (w1879/7 p. 8, original WT position: Yes. Under alleged FDS: w52 6/1 p. 338, No; w65 8/1 p. 479, Yes; w88 6/1 p. 31, No; pe first edition, p. 179, Yes; pe later edition, p. 179, No; Insight II, p. 985, Yes; re p. 273, No)
Are you prepare to hang your hope of salvation on this singular human interpretation of Romans 8:16?
Does the context of Romans 8 support such a view?
“For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the spirit, on the things of the spirit. 6 For setting the mind on the flesh means death, but setting the mind on the spirit means life and peace;” (Ro 8:5, 6)
Only two groups are spoken of, not three. One group dies, the other lives in peace. According to vs. 14, the second group are God's sons.
“However, you are in harmony, not with the flesh, but with the spirit, if God’s spirit truly dwells in you. But if anyone does not have Christ’s spirit, this person does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in union with you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness.” (Ro 8:9, 10)
Either God’s spirit is in you or it is not. Either Christ’s spirit is in you and you belong to him, or it is not and you belong to the world. Again, no provision is made in Romans for a third approved group.
“For all who are led by God’s spirit are indeed God’s sons. 15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!” 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children.” (Ro 8:14-16)
The group with the spirit are God’s sons. The group without the spirit are of the world, the flesh. There is no mention of a third group that has his spirit, but are not his sons, just his friends. If we have his spirit, we are his children. If we don’t have his spirit, we are dead.
We teach that God somehow makes certain individuals aware that they are his sons. Since we teach every child brought up as a Jehovah’s Witness and every new student we find along the way that they are not of this group, the teaching becomes self-fulfilling. Like the cult leader that says he speaks to God, we must believe, because we don’t hear God’s voice so we know God doesn't speak to us. Still, there’s no way we can prove that the cult leader hears God either. Despite all that, if we are going to accept his rule over us, we have to accept and believe that God does speak to him.
We are expected to accept this interpretation as a matter of faith—faith in men. Jehovah's Witnesses are listening to men, obeying men and still expecting to be blessed. There is one man we are told to listen to, one man we are told to obey. However, doing so will put us in opposition to the instruction from the Governing Body. On the bright side, obeying Jesus does result in blessings. (Ac 3:23; Mt 17:5)
What Is Not There
There is more clear evidence that the interpretation of the Governing Body is wrong. It is found in what is missing. If we accept that there is a secondary class of Christian, where is the evidence? If only 144,000 go to heaven and eight million remain on earth, then where is Jesus' provision for the 99.9% that are not God’s children? Where does he speak of a group that are God’s friends, not his sons? Where is mention made of a group that does not enter into the new covenant? Where are we told of a group of Christians who do not have Jesus as their mediator? Where does he provide instructions on how to observe his memorial to this group so that they can rest assured that they are not showing him disrespect by withholding their participation?
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego showed up and were present when the ceremony to worship the golden image was called. They observed the ceremony. They were only thrown into the fiery furnace for refusing to participate. If an unrighteous human king views presence without participation as an affront, how much more will a righteous King calling for participation in a righteous ceremony view it so? (Da 3:1-30)
To Whom Do You Belong?
Song 62 of the new songbook start out this way:
To whom do you belong?
Which god do you now obey?
Your master is he to whom you bow.
He is your god; you serve him now.
You cannot serve two gods;
Both masters can never share
The love of your heart in its ev’ry part.
To neither you would be fair.
Jesus gave you a clear command:
“and after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”” (1Co 11:24, 25)
The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses has given you a clear command:
“No dedicated servant of Jehovah and faithful follower of his Son would want to show disrespect for Jesus’ sacrifice by partaking of the Memorial emblems if he or she actually lacks clear evidence of being an anointed Christian.” – Par 13
The question now is: To whom do YOU belong?
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Comment by bobcat3 on 2015-03-08 09:22:05
Meleti:
Good reasoning! I hope many will read it.
Bobcat
Comment by stonedragon on 2015-03-08 10:47:14
Thank you for this and your previous articles on this subject. But I have a question.
Are you going to partake PUBLICLY in front of the whole conversation this year?Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2015-03-08 12:21:46
The question comes across as impertinent though I'm not suggesting that was your intention. It is also based on a premise that has not been established.
Reply by stonedragon2k on 2015-03-08 13:33:29
Okay, no offence intended.
I asked because I'm sure I read on this site a strong article (quite recently) suggesting the need to confess Jesus publicly through our memorial attendance and participation. Because the suggestion came from this site, I was curious to know if the author of the article (it may have been you or from a contributor - I'm sorry I can't remember) was going to follow through his/her words with actions. That is all.
If you had answered and said yes, then on the basis of the article I was wondering what my actions should be. Just a contrast and compare exercise, that is all.
Again no offence intended - I just wanted to know how far some are prepared to take Jesus words (see below) as these were quoted in the context of the article about partaking of the emblems, publicly.
Mat_7:23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
Mat_10:32 "Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens;
Thanks, your brother in Christ.Reply by stonedragon2k on 2015-03-08 13:34:44
The Math 7:23 scripture should have been this:
Mat_10:32 "Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens;
My bad.....
Reply by Alex Rover on 2015-03-08 15:39:03
Hi Stonedragon,
perhaps you refer to one of the articles I've recently contributed.
Imagine you are at a Jw memorial, can your conscience really be ok when you get offered the bread and then reject it? The line I used was that IF WE CHOOSE to attend, I believe it's wrong to reject Christ. But many choose not to attend. That's their own choice and equally understandable if they prefer to celebrate in private.
Personally, I still attend, will partake publicly in front of all the KH, but will also have a private memorial on April 2 with friends and family to partake at home. Some of these friends are not ready yet to partake in public, but have come to know about having to partake only very recently.
We shouldn't judge each other in this matter, but the Bible is clear on what Christ expects us to do.
Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2015-03-08 17:12:05
No offense taken. The problem for many is that we are partaking under ban so to speak. If I were to say on this site that I've partaken publicly and the year I first began to do so, it narrows down the field and jeopardizes my anonymity. I also do not want to imply by saying whether or not I partake publicly that others should follow my example. Partaking is not optional since it is a command given by Jesus to his disciples. However, partaking as part of a JW ceremony is optional. Some may feel there are benefits to doing so, while others may feel that the cons outweigh the pros. I will say that I'll be partaking in a private gathering with a number of close friends.
Comment by on 2015-03-08 11:31:56
Can we have an entire congregation partaking?
Reply by Alex Rover on 2015-03-08 15:43:08
Whenever two or three are gathered in Christ's name, he is there with them.
What is a congregation? It is possible an entire Jw congregation partakes? Theoretically yes, practically no. But when you gather with like-minded friends at your home and all partake, then arent you a local congregation of God's children?
Comment by omionmen on 2015-03-08 16:39:38
I will be partaking this year on April 3.Jesus commanded "take,eat, this is my body," I have in the past stress this command on several memorial. talks, but had failed to obey the command. But it will not be same again.
I will partake from my seat, have longed believed that whomever confess Jesus should.
Any who ask why I partook will be shown w07 1/15 Questions from. Readers
"How should a person be viewed who has determined in his heart
that he is now anointed and begins to partake of the emblems at
the Memorial? He should not be judged. The matter is between him
and Jehovah. (Romans 14:12 )"
Meleti/Alex,how are we to understand. the "partaking unworthily" mentioned in the later verses of 1 Cor. 11:27-32?
There were no "other sheep" when it was written so it does not apply to them. So what is the meaning?Reply by yobec on 2015-03-08 18:33:58
The catholic church has long taught that you cannot partake of communion if you have committed serious sins of which you have not repented of and confessed. To do so, would be blasphemous
I would suspect that Paul probably is of the same mind on this matter. He probably means that if a person is guilty of serious sinning and perhaps still even engaged in it such as for instance adultery, he would not have a clean conscience and as such if he pretends that he is in union with Christ, might very well be sinning against the holy spirit and as such drinking to his own condemnation.
But you are right, to use this scripture today so as to insinuate that it applies to the other sheep who would pretend to be anointed and thereby be condemning themselves is ludicrous as there we're, according to WT, no other sheeps with the earthly hope in the first century. So obviously Paul could not have been using this scripture to that effect
Sorry, I am not Meleti nor Alex. Hope you don't mind. I couldn't resist to answer this question. But still, I am only guessing here. I'm sure others will provide additional insight.
Reply by apollos0fAlexandria on 2015-03-08 20:47:48
Hi Omionmen
It seems reasonably clear that there were "other sheep" when it was written. Every Gentile Christian was one of them.
But perhaps you already appreciated that and are using your question to point out the fallacy of the doctrine. If so, you make an excellent point. According to JW theology there were no "other sheep" and therefore the application that they make is evidently flawed since Paul was writing to a congregation which was comprised of anointed Christians only (JW theology acknowledges this).
Of course there could be those who were not yet baptized present, either due to youth or just because they were new, but there is no indication in the NT writings that new ones hung around very long before getting baptized. And Paul's words clearly are not just directed to those who were too young.
I believe that Yobec hits the nail on the head. Paul says we should scrutinize ourselves before partaking (1 Cor 11:28). Since we are all sinners then it cannot just mean that we should be free from sin. But we are cleansed if we confess our sins (1 John 1:9). Therefore IMHO it is most logical that in using the term "unworthily" Paul would be referring to partaking while we are concealing a serious sin.
ApollosReply by omionmen on 2015-03-09 03:02:04
Appreciate your response and Yobec's.
Confession of serious sins to elders of Jw or in Catholic manner is Biblical?
Or is confession to God and a turning away from sin is?Reply by yobec on 2015-03-09 11:24:08
Jesus told the adulterous women simply to "go and sin no more".
Paul said " confess your sins to one another"
Whether Paul's statement is a command or simply good advice,it is the subject of much debate.
Reply by apollos0fAlexandria on 2015-03-09 21:24:47
Hi omionmen
It's a good follow on question. Clearly confession to God is mandatory. I don't find the scriptural basis for Catholic / JW procedure, but confession to fellow Christians might be appropriate. It's not that they can absolve you of sin, but it would likely have a number of benefits if they would genuinely try to provide spiritual support.
But in relation to the subject at hand then the key thing must be a repentant heart which would include a genuine effort to discontinue the sin (Prov 24:16). Only then could a person appeal for forgiveness on the basis of the ransom and have a good standing with God. Evidently one cannot sin with impunity and still expect the ransom to continue to be applied (Heb 10:29).
That's how the scriptures read to me anyway, but I'd be interested to hear what others have to say.
Apollos
Reply by kev c on 2015-03-11 00:38:47
I believe the main reason why we may confess sins to other christians is so that they can pray for us . As a righteous mans supplication has much force . . See James chapter 5 . This should be the reason for calling the older men of the congregation . 1 we divulge the sin 2 they pray for us .3 we recieve forgiveness from the lord .resulting in spiritual and even perhaps physical healing . The problem is with the JWs is that if you confess to the elders you will likely be dragged before a judicial committee instead .. just wrong kev c
Reply by Libertas on 2015-03-15 13:42:44
To Readers in Germany: The question for Readers article in german you can find in w07 Mai 15th issue
Comment by on 2015-03-08 22:09:37
In your opening paragraph you said:
"A more appropriate title for this week’s Watchtower study would be “How We Observe the Lord’s Evening Meal.” The “why” is answered in the article’s opening paragraph. After that, the rest of the article is intended to instruct the eight million Jehovah’s Witnesses on how we observe the Memorial. This instruction can be summed up in one sentence: Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Lord’s Evening Meal by observing the Lord’s Evening Meal."
I think you missed the point of the title. The writer didn't intend it to be interpreted as: "Why we [Commemorate] the Lord's Evening Meal", but rather, "Why We Literally Observe (as in "respectful observers" but not "partakers") The Lord's Evening Meal." LOL.
Comment by Anonymous. on 2015-03-08 22:14:37
In your opening paragraph you said:
"A more appropriate title for this week’s Watchtower study would be “How We Observe the Lord’s Evening Meal.” The “why” is answered in the article’s opening paragraph. After that, the rest of the article is intended to instruct the eight million Jehovah’s Witnesses on how we observe the Memorial. This instruction can be summed up in one sentence: Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Lord’s Evening Meal by observing the Lord’s Evening Meal."
I think you missed the point of the title. The writer didn't intend it to be interpreted as: "Why we [Commemorate] the Lord's Evening Meal", but rather, "Why We Literally Observe (as in "respectful observers" but not "partakers") The Lord's Evening Meal." LOL.
Comment by on 2015-03-09 10:00:23
Outstanding article!! Simple, clear and scriptural
Comment by on 2015-03-09 12:09:25
Great article, Meleti. I'm not very enthusiastic about the Memorial tract work either; can't seem to distribute nonsense to people who, in their own Christian religions, partake of the emblems. How'd they get it right?
Comment by kev c on 2015-03-09 16:06:12
Regarding 1 corinthians 11 and the last supper one of the problems in the congregation was that some of the brothers disrespected the whole arrangement . In that they did not discern the body of the lord . Which likely means the body of other believers in christ . It seems that thier actions and attitude toward other believers even on the night brought judgement and correction from the lord . So when partaking we would need to take a good look ourselves and our attitude toward others . Put it right and then partake . . Kev
Comment by kev c on 2015-03-10 17:32:58
Ive just read the article and i thought it was pretty much correct until paragraph 13. Then the rest seems to contradict the preceding paragraphs. Paragraph 8 says the memorial bread and wine symbolise jesus priceless sacrifice in behalf of obedient mankind. And we appreciate that loving provision. Then the rest of the study is dedicated to persauding 99 9. Percent of. The witnesses to reject that loving provision. To be disobedient to jesus command to eat and drink of the symbols. And therefore at the same time reject the sacrifice he made for thier sins. There is no other provision for forgiveness of sins. As far as i can see. Kev.
Reply by kev c on 2015-03-11 01:11:15
As for thier understanding of romans 8 v 16 the spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are gods sons . On the one hand they are saying that only the individual would know if god had called him . But it seems that if we say that it is bearing witness and we are gods sons and we want to partake of the bread and wine .Then the interpretation seems to change despite what that watchtower says . They dont seem to believe you . I was subjected to a tirade of questions designed to convince me not to partake and then worse again questions designed to try and trap me in my speech so they could get an accusation against me .. and all this was heard by my wife and son sitting in the next room with the door open . A fact that they both commented on later . Just wrong on so many levels again . Whose side are these people on ? Kev c
Reply by kev c on 2015-03-11 04:58:35
Another thing if para 8 is correct and the memorial bread amd wine symbolise jesus sacrifice on behalf of obedient mankind . Then partaking of them symbolise our faith and acceptance of the sacrifice does it not .. kev c
Comment by truthseeker on 2015-03-12 01:40:25
To me it's crazy to put all the extra effort to deliver personal invitations to the masses to come to the memorial to hear a talk about why they are not in the covenant mediated by Jesus, and for them to learn that if they become a JW they shouldn't expect to go to heaven. If they belong to any other Christian denomination they already are planning to go to heaven, and most of them already partake in their own church. Logically they would have to wonder why they were invited when nothing happened. If the JWs are trying to get new converts, they should try to keep the uninitiated away until some doctrinal ground work can be laid. They truly think that people will be somehow so moved by it all that they will come back. In actuality it is very off-putting, and with the memorial experience as an introduction I doubt if anyone ever comes back. I've certainly never seen even one new face show up for the "special talk" that's always announced for the following Sunday.
Reply by Billy on 2015-03-12 07:09:31
I have a friend who asked me if she could attend the special occasion and came along she wasn't very impressed and has not asked to come back. I have a second friend come along and didn't want to come back either. And I don't really blame them ! I've never been impressed by the memorial service not that I don't feel moved by Jesus sacrifice
Comment by menrov on 2015-03-12 04:57:55
It is a very good article. A topic worth meditating over. I guess most will see that a believer in Christ must eat the bread and the wine. An as often as he/she feels like doing this (from the heart), that is how one show sincere and true appreciation for what Christ and His Father have arranged and done. I believe it should come from the heart to avoid it becoming a tradition, where it become more a ceremony than an act of appreciation and love for the gift.
Should one join a formally arranged commemoration, like the one organised by the WBTS? Of course it is a personal choice but considering that the discourse will not motivate one to become part of the body of Christ, and will not inspire to show you appreciation and love for the gift because you are basically being told that it is not a gift for you, one might ask himself what the added value is to attend. It is good to commemorate with others but if that is not feasible, should one then just join a group because it is there? Did Paul or others act like that? If one is convinced that the whole setting and instructions given during the commemoration is not as Jesus intended or even to the contrary, why should one join or show up?
Would be equally with to enter any Christian church just because they are having a commemoration?
Jesus said where 2 or three are gathered in my name, I am there among them (Matt. 18:20). Do JW's really gather in Jesus's name?
I believe it is good to meditate over this as eating the bread and the wine i a serious thing.
Thanks again Meleti, it stimulates our thinking.
Comment by menrov on 2015-03-12 05:00:14
Very sorry for the typing errors. WIll try to avoid them next time.
Comment by lightflashup on 2015-03-12 20:45:12
hi Meleti, solid article that is full of the right questions, it helps me to understands a question that I always wonder about but felt I was perhaps doing something wrong if I question about it so I left it alone, I am greatful for your point of reasoning that clearly shows me a valid point.
thank you.Reply by on 2015-03-15 06:04:03
I have read this article over and over. Meleti would I be correct in saying that Jesus was the only observer on this occasion?
Exodus 12:24-27
24 “You must observe this event as a lasting regulation for you and your sons.+ 25 And when you come into the land that Jehovah will give you just as he has stated, you must keep this observance.+ 26 And when your sons ask you, ‘What does this observance mean to you?’+ 27 you must say, ‘It is the sacrifice of the Passover to Jehovah, who passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt when he plagued the Egyptians, but he spared our houses.’”
I would say that "observe"in this context required action, action, action in observing the Passover . No mention of a second class of Jews/proselytes observing the passover.
Comment by katrina on 2015-03-14 23:01:17
It is like being invited to a meal and not eating, getting up and leaving but saying thanks for inviting me, sorry I couldn't partake of the meal its against my religion though the bread and wine looked great I am sure it tasted fantastic, but just couldn't have any part of it, but the company was good the entertainment was good, just not the food.
Comment by omionmen on 2015-03-15 05:48:14
par 18 of this WT article under review mentions an "earthly hope"
Meleti/Alex n others,
Does the Bible teach an "earthly hope", if so, for whom?Reply by GodsWordIsTruth on 2015-03-15 06:31:10
Exodus 12:24-27
24 “You must observe this event as a lasting regulation for you and your sons.+ 25 And when you come into the land that Jehovah will give you just as he has stated, you must keep this observance.+ 26 And when your sons ask you, ‘What does this observance mean to you?’+ 27 you must say, ‘It is the sacrifice of the Passover to Jehovah, who passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt when he plagued the Egyptians, but he spared our houses.’”
Observance of the passover required action. They were to keep doing this in remembrance as a sacrifice to Jehovah.
The only observer at the Lords evening meal was/is Jesus Christ.Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2015-03-15 08:08:43
I would think so. Jesus offered the wine and bread to his apostles and it was passed around, but there is no record of him partaking. It would make no sense for him to partake.
Reply by filadefia on 2015-03-27 02:21:19
Check out Luke 22:15,16 (NWT: "I have greatly desired to eat this......I will not eat it again until....") So he must have ate it with them....that's my thought!
Cheers!
Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2015-03-15 08:06:40
I don't have time to find the relevant scriptures at the moment, so this answer will be just off the top of my head. The Bible teaches that the earth will be restored to a paradise state and filled with perfect humans. This is the purpose of the Messianic Kingdom. So this isn't so much a hope as a promise. As a promise of God, it is fact and cannot be altered. When we speak of hope, we introduce something conditional. The hope that Jesus preached was for some humans who chose to follow him and become part of this solution, the means by which the promise of a restored earth will be achieved. That is the heavenly hope which is bound up with the good news of the Christ.
Comment by lightflashup on 2015-03-15 07:56:22
John 3:3 truly , truly ,i say to you , unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God, the kingdom of God covers the new heaven and the new earth, it is time we come to know Christ for ourselves , great article Meleti having me doing a lot of thinking on this subject.
Comment by filadefia on 2015-03-27 02:01:15
Hey Meleti,
Great Job!!! I appreciate your good work on this article, clearly with facts...indisputable! I wonder why the more important ICor 11:26 was not mentioned in the WT article until I read your post. And if there were to be any distinction as to who should enjoy the "loaf" and "wine" Jesus, Paul or Jah himself would have told us so.
Keep it up!
Comment by Patrizia on 2018-05-03 11:44:59
Condivido completamente la tua riflessione,anche se fino ad ora mi sono limitata ad assistere alla commemorazione senza parteciparvi perché mi é mancato il coraggio di affrontare eventuali sguardi di disapprovazione e me ne vergogno moltissimo. Il punto è che tutte le volte che ho tentato di esprimere il mio punto di vista,bibbia alla mano,mi hanno risposto che il vangelo ė stato scritto per gli unti,che i cristiani del primo secolo erano tutti unti,che Gesù ė mediatore tra Dio e gli unti,che il patto ė rivolto solo agli unti. E quando obietto che allora é inutile per me,che sono una piccola pecora smarrita, continuare a studiare o solo leggere la bibbia mi rispondono che noi comuni mortali godiamo dei benefici del riscatto tramite gli unti e la lealtà che mostriamo loro. Per questo ho deciso di non partecipare più alle adunanze e di non appartenere ad alcuna organizzazione religiosa preferendo un rapporto personale e non mediato,se non da Gesù,con il creatore.