2016, Oct. 24-30 - Our Christian Life and Ministry Review

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Bible Study – Chapter 2 Par. 35-40


If I were to tell you that I am the “faithful and discreet slave” spoken of at Matthew 24:45-47, what would be the first words out of your mouth?  Perhaps, “In a pig’s eye!”  Or perhaps the more sardonic double positive: “Yeah, right!”  On the other hand, you might prefer to give me the benefit of the doubt by simply demanding that I back up my assertion with some proof.

Not only do you have the right to demand proof, you have an obligation to do so.

While acknowledging that in the first century there were prophets, Bible writers do not give them carte blanche. Instead they told the congregations to put them to the test.

“Do not treat prophesyings with contempt. 21 Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.” (1Th 5:20, 21)


“Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.” (1Jo 4:1)


Congregations were not to cynically dismiss all prophecies and inspired expressions, but they were to test them.  You will notice that both Paul and John use the imperative verb tense.  Hence, this is not a suggestion, but a command from God.  We must ‘make sure of all things’ we are taught. We must ‘test every inspired expression to see if it originates from God.’

What if a man claims his expressions are not inspired, but still expects us to follow his teachings and obey his direction?  Does he then get a free pass from this testing process?  If we are commanded to test an expression which a man claims is inspired from God, how much more caution should we exercise when the man does not claim inspiration, yet expects us to accept his words as if he were channeling the Almighty?

To claim one is not speaking under inspiration, while simultaneously claiming one is God’s channel of communication is to speak a contradiction.  The word “inspiration” translates the Greek word, theopneustos, which literally means “God-breathed”.  How can I claim to be the channel God is using to communicate to humans if the words I use are not breathed by God?  How then is he communicating with me so that I can relay his words to the world?

If I claim to be Christ’s faithful and discreet slave—if I claim to be God’s channel of communication—would you have the right to demand proof?  I might claim that you do not, because 1 Thessalonians 5:20, 21 and 1 John 4:1 only refer to prophets and I do not claim to be a prophet.  We’ve just seen that such reasoning doesn’t hold water but to add to the argument, consider these words of our Lord Jesus:

“…the one whom people put in charge of much, they will demand more than usual of him.” (Lu 12:48)


It seems the people have the right to demand much of those in charge.

In fact, this principle does not apply only to those who presume to command a large group.  Even the individual Christian should expect to be called to defend his position as a teacher.

“But sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.” (1Pe 3:15)


We don’t have the right to say, “This is the way it is because I say so.”  In fact, we are commanded by our Lord and King to provide proof for our hope and to do so with a mild temper and deep respect.

Therefore, we do not threaten anyone who questions our hope; nor do we persecute those who rightfully challenge our assertions.  Doing so would not evince a mild temper nor demonstrate deep respect, would it?  To threaten and persecute would be to disobey our Lord.

People have a right to demand proof from us, even on an individual basis, for when we preach the good news to them, we are providing them with life changing information should they choose to accept what we teach as truth.  They need to know the basis for this truth, the evidence upon which it is founded.

Would any person with a sound mind disagree with this line of reasoning?

If not, then consider this assertion from this week’s Bible Study taken from the God’s Kingdom Rules book.

At that time [1919], Christ evidently fulfilled a key feature of the sign of the last days. He appointed “the faithful and discreet slave,” a small group of anointed men who would take the lead among his people by dispensing spiritual food at the proper time.—Matt. 24:45-47 – chap. 2, par. 35


You will notice the code word “evidently”. This word makes it appearance in the publications when a statement is made for which there is no evidence.  (Unfortunately, the irony will escape most of my JW brethren.)

For most of the twentieth century, Jehovah’s Witnesses believed that all anointed Christians comprised a composite slave—the faithful and discreet slave of Matthew 24:45-47.  However, three years ago that changed and now the Governing Body claims they alone (and former prominent ones like them such as J. F. Rutherford and associates) were appointed in 1919 as Christ’s slave to feed the flock.[i]

So what you have here is the equivalent to the scenario I put to you at the start.  Someone is claiming to be the faithful and discreet slave Jesus appoints, but is not providing any proof.  You have a right to demand proof. You have a Scriptural obligation to demand proof.  Yet, you will find none in this week’s Congregation Bible Study.

Their claim to be the faithful and discreet slave leads to another claim, one for which there is no Scriptural support whatsoever.  They claim to be God’s appointed channel of communication.[ii]

“The organization’s handbook for members, Organized to Do Jehovah’s Will, teaches with reference to the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ (and thus, the Governing Body) for instance, that the congregation hopes to ‘draw ever closer to Jehovah by manifesting complete trust in the channel that he is using to direct his people today.’” Submissions of Senior Counsel Assisting the Royal Commission, p. 11, par. 15


“By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today.” (w09 11/15 p. 14 par. 5 Treasure Your Place in the Congregation)


 “Jehovah gives us sound counsel through his Word and through his organization, using the publications provided by “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matthew 24:45; 2 Timothy 3:16) How foolish to reject good advice and insist on our own way! We “must be swift about hearing” when Jehovah, “the One teaching men knowledge,” counsels us through his channel of communication.” (w03 3/15 p. 27 ‘The Lips of Truth Will Endure Forever’)


“That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end.” (w13 7/15 p. 20 par. 2 “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”)


Theocratic appointments come from Jehovah through his Son and God’s visible earthly channel, “the faithful and discreet slave” and its Governing Body.” (w01 1/15 p. 16 par. 19 Overseers and Ministerial Servants Theocratically Appointed)


So now the slave whom Jesus refers to in Matthew 24:45-47 and Luke 12:41-48 has a new role: God’s channel of communication!  Yet, they admit they are not inspired. God does not breathe his words to them. They merely interpret what everyone else can read for themselves.  They admit to making mistakes; they abandon former teachings as false and adopt “new truths.”  This is due merely to human imperfection, they claim.  Yet, they still claim to be the sole channel Jehovah uses to teach us truth.

Proof please!  Is it really too much to ask of someone who is instructed by the Lord to respond with a “mild temper and deep respect”?

The Jewish religious leaders were the body that governed the nation of Israel at the time the apostles of Jesus began their ministry. Those leaders considered themselves to be both faithful to God and the wisest (most discreet) of men.  They taught others that they were the sole means by which God communicated with the nation.

When Peter and John cured a 40-year-old cripple by the power of Jesus, the religious leaders or governing body of the Jews put them in jail, then the next day they threatened them and told them not to speak on the basis of Jesus’ name anymore.  Yet these apostles had done no wrong, committed no crime.  Rather, they did a good deed—a noteworthy one that could not be denied.  The apostles replied that they could not obey the command of the governing body to stop preaching the good news of the Christ.  (Acts 3:1-10; Acts 4:1-4; Acts 17-20)

Shortly thereafter, Jewish governing body again threw the apostles in jail, but an angel of the Lord freed them.  (Acts 4:17-20)  So the governing body of the nation dispatched soldiers to round them up and bring them before the Sanhedrin—the chief court of the nation.  They told the apostles to stop speaking upon the name of Jesus, but the apostles replied:

“In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men.” (Ac 5:29)


At this point, they wanted to kill them, but one of their own persuaded them not to, so they settled on flogging the apostles and ordering them to be silent.  All this was only the beginning of persecution originating from the governing body of the Jews.

Was the governing body of the Jews acting in mild temper?  Did they demonstrate deep respect? Did they feel obliged to defend their teaching and their position by providing evidence to those who had a right to demand it? Did they even acknowledge that others had the right to demand it?  No! Their only recourse in defending their authority was to resort to threats, intimidation, illegal imprisonment and flogging, and outright persecution.

How does this translate to our day?  Admittedly, the world of Jehovah’s Witnesses is a microcosm within the much larger world of Christendom, and what happens within the Organization is hardly without precedent in the Christian world.  Nevertheless, I will only speak of what I know firsthand.
Remember this point: The apostles hadn’t broken any law. The problem the governing body of the Jews had with them was that they threatened their authority over the people.  For that reason, they were persecuted and killed.

I’m going to relate one element of my personal story, not because it’s unique, but because it is not.  Many others have experienced variations on this theme.

Having spoken to one trusted elder friend about the misgivings I had about one of our teachings, I suddenly found myself before the entire body with the circuit overseer chairing the meeting.  None of the things I’d spoken of were brought up however. (Perhaps because there was only one witness to the discussion.) I was not challenged on my understanding of any doctrine.  The whole issue was whether or not I recognized the authority of the Governing Body.  I asked the brothers whether, in all the years they had known me, I had ever failed to implement any direction from the branch or the Governing Body. None could accuse me of resisting the direction of the Governing Body, yet my years of service seemed to count for nothing.  They wanted to know if I would continue to obey the Governing Body.  I replied—in my naiveté of the time—that I would continue to obey them, but with the proviso that I would always obey God as ruler rather than men.  I felt it was safe to quote Acts 5:29 in that context (It is a Scriptural principle after all.) but it was if I’d pulled the pin from a grenade and dropped it on the conference table. They were aghast that I would say such a thing.  Apparently, in their minds, the Governing Body was exempt from the words of Acts 5:29.

The long and the short of it was that I was removed.  This secretly pleased me for I had been looking for a way to resign, and they handed me one on a plate.  They were surprised when I did not appeal the decision.

Here’s the point I’m trying to make.  I wasn’t removed for misconduct or disobedience to the direction of the Governing Body. I was removed for an unwillingness to obey the Governing Body should their direction conflict with God’s word.  My case, as I’ve already said, is hardly unique.  Many others have experienced a similar situation and the issue always comes down to submission to the will of men.  A brother can have a spotless record before God and men, but if he isn’t willing to unquestioningly submit to the direction given him by the Governing Body and those appointed by them, he experiences a modern-day version of what the apostles went through.  Threats and intimidation are possible.  Flogging is not in most society’s today, but the metaphorical equivalent is.  Slander, gossip, accusations of apostasy, threats of disfellowshipping, are all tools used in an attempt to secure the authority of the Organization over the individual.

So when you read the unsupported and unproven statement in paragraph 35 of this week’s study, ask yourself, why is no proof given?  And what would happen to you if you asked for it; no, if you demanded it as is your right? (Lu 12:48; 1Pe 3:15)  Would you get a reply given with a mild temper and deep respect? Would you get the proof you asked for?  Or would you be intimidated, threatened and persecuted?

Who are these men imitating when they act this way? The Christ or the governing body of the Jews?

More than ever before, the failure to provide even a modicum of proof for grandiose claims seems to be endemic to the modern Organization.  Take as yet another example what is said in paragraph 37:

The preaching work continued to refine Christ’s servants, for the proud and arrogant among them had no stomach for such humble work. Those who would not get in step with the work parted company with the faithful ones. In the years following 1919, some disloyal ones were embittered and resorted to slander and libel, even siding with the persecutors of Jehovah’s faithful servants. – par. 37


I’ve read such statements from time to time in the publications over the years, but have come to realize that I’ve never seen proof to back them up.  Did thousands leave Rutherford because they didn’t want to preach?  Or was it that they didn’t want to preach Rutherford’s brand of Christianity?  Was it pride and arrogance that typified those who would not follow him, or were they put off by his pride and arrogance?  If he were truly the key representative of Christ’s faithful and discreet slave, then when this alleged slander and libel assaulted him, he would have responded with proof of his position, doing so with a mild temper and deep respect as commanded by the Lord.

Rather than make baseless assertions as the book we are studying does, let us look as some historical evidence.

In the Golden Age of May 5, 1937 on page 498 there is an article attacking Walter F. Salter, a former Canada branch servant (what we would now call the Branch Coordinator) who wrote a public letter to Rutherford in 1937 claiming that Rutherford enjoyed “exclusive use of “luxurioius” and “expensive” residences (in Brooklyn, Staten Island, Germany, and San Diego), as well as two Cadillacs” and that he drank in excess.  He was not alone in making such claims.  Another prominent brother, Olin Moyle concurred.[iii]  Perhaps these are the claims of pride, arrogance, slander and libel that this portion of God’s Kingdom Rules is referring to. How did the 20-year-old faithful and discreet slave respond to this alleged slander and libel?

Here are some choice excerpts from that aforementioned article about Salter:

“If you are a “goat”, just go right ahead and make all the goat noises and goat odors that you wish.” (p. 500, par. 3)


“The man needs to be pruned.  He should submit himself to the specialists and let them excavate his gall bladder and remove his inordinate self-esteem.” (p. 502, par. 6)


“a man who…is not thinker, not Christian and no real man.” (p. 503, par. 9)


As for Moyle’s open letter, the Watchtower of October 15, 1939 claimed that “every paragraph of that letter is false, filled with lies, and is a wicked slander and a libel.”  He was publicly compared to Judas Iscariot.

For four years past the writer of that letter has been entrusted with the confidential matters of the Society. It now appears that the writer of that letter, without excuse, libels the family of God at Bethel, and identifies himself as one who speaks evil against the Lord's organization, and who is a murmurer and complainer, even as the scriptures have foretold. (Jude 4-16; 1Cor. 4:3; Rom 14:4) The members of the board of directors hereby resent the unjust criticism appearing in that letter, disapprove of the writer and his actions, and recommend the president of the Society immediately terminate the relationship of O. R. Moyle to the Society as legal counsel and as a member of the Bethel family.— Joseph F. Rutherford, The Watchtower, 1939-10-15


The Organization claims Moyle committed libel. Therefore, one would expect they could win their case at law. Would not Jehovah give them the victory?  What case could Moyle have against them unless they were the ones guilty of libel?  Moyle did sue and was awarded $30,000 in damages, an amount that was reduced on appeal in 1944 to $15,000.  (See December 20, 1944 Consolation, p. 21)

The point of all this is not to hurl mud at the Organization but to unmask a history that they seem intent on misrepresenting.  They are the ones accusing others of libeling them and of acting with prideful arrogance.  They claim to be the victims of unjust attacks.  Yet they provide no evidence to support these claims they often make. On the other hand, where there is evidence that they were acting pridefully and engaging in slander and libel, such facts are hidden from the millions of Witnesses who put their trust in these men.  The candor of Bible writers in revealing their own sins is one of the features we use to show the Bible is inspired of God.  Men who do not have the spirit of God tend to hide their errors, cover up their wrongdoing, and shift any blame to others.  But such hidden sins cannot remain hidden forever.

“Watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 But there is nothing carefully concealed that will not be revealed, and secret that will not become known. 3 Wherefore what things YOU say in the darkness will be heard in the light, and what YOU whisper in private rooms will be preached from the housetops.” (Lu 12:1-3)


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[i] “In recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” (w7/13 p. 22 par. 10) “he [Jesus] will find that the faithful slave has been loyally dispensing timely spiritual food to the domestics. Jesus will then delight in making the second appointment—over all his belongings.” (w7/13 p. 22 par. 18)

[ii] For more information on the idea of the Governing Body being God’s channel of communication, see Geoffrey Jackson Speaks before the Royal Commission and Qualifications to Become God’s Channel of Communication.

[iii] See Wikipedia article.

 

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  • Comment by Mouchette on 2016-10-26 10:14:29

    Amen to all that. And all I can add is "Get out of her my people".

    • Reply by THE DRIFTER on 2016-10-26 14:02:27

      @Mouchette, ...Getting out means losing friends and family not to mention the occasional gold nuggets of Bible truth provided.

      A bit of a sticky wicket!

      Before I am labeled coward, ...think about this, if you're out, you are in no position to help/assist those who are in.

      Who becomes the real winner in that scenario?

      • Reply by Colette on 2016-10-26 23:32:33

        The Drifter: That is true, you can help nobody if you are shunned, or marked as the brothers as terrified of anything that might be apostate. It is commendable to want to help others.

        BUT the question then must be asked: If you are in to help others, at what cost to yourself and your family?

        What is the price to us personally to lead a double life and hide what we are? I know someone who remained an elder to help others wake up, and eventually had to step down due to extreme emotional distress from which he suffers until today. It is extremely stressful to hide even our thoughts all the time from everyone around us.

        Jesus said that not one of his sheep would be lost. He will call whoever must be saved. There is no instance that I can think of in the bible of anyone who prophesied underground. We are told to put our light on the table, not underneath, to let it shine for all to see. The apostles and early Christians openly preached in spite of the persecution and no doubt shunning they received from the Jewish community.

        We have to trust that our Heavenly Father wants all to live and that He knows what to do, how and when. Others' salvation does not hinge on our actions, especially not on the compromising of our integrity or personal wellbeing.

        Our reputation was completely destroyed before we woke up, so no-one would have listened to us. In hindsight I am glad about that as I would have been an internal activist myself, and suffered more harm. Please accept the above comments as reflecting my concern that the Watchtower does not do more damage, claim more victims or steal more time and energy from anybody.

        • Reply by THE DRIFTER on 2016-10-27 02:54:34

          @Colette, ...beautiful expressions!

          I, like many others, are sensing a shake up if you will, that will run its course throughout all levels of the "Organization." For several years we have seen a desperation in the writing committee as they try to hold together a once thriving/malleable people. "Shepard the Flock of God" has now become "Discipline the Flock of God." The masses are restless and for good reason. There needs to be those in place when that happens.

          Your concern regarding personal risk/damage/cost is well taken and for the many who have literally swallowed the hook it should be noted. However, in my case, "waking up" wasn't that much of a shock. I've been publicly questioning our lessons and procedures for over 30 years. (interesting that I'm still here) I'm certain there are many like me within the congregation today.

          How could there not be?

          Cites such as this one and others were more of a reaffirmation than a new thought thereby giving me the "edge", for lack of a better word, into dealing with the weekly topics and drama at hand.

          Don't get me wrong, when the pieces fell into place, I thought the only thing I could do was to "take my stand" until I became of the mind that that was exactly what our adversary would have me do. No, ...being silenced would serve no purpose, but having a voice, yes having a voice, would make all the difference. (for me)

          Thank-you for your kind words of concern and motivation and I do also believe that "not a sheep will be lost!" What's more, ...I believe Jehovah/Yahweh will use each one as to his strength and conviction and if we make ourselves available, we will be successful with whatever he has in store for us as regards helping others.

          But, ...just as those to whom we preach, nothing can take root unless Jehovah/Yahweh wills it, family and friends included!

          BTW, ...my friends just call me Drifter or Drifty!

          *tips hat

          • Reply by katrina on 2016-10-27 06:56:18

            Very good article. Jackson under oath at the ARC when asked the question " do you believe that your religion is the only true one" something like that, he said it would be presumptuous of me to say it was. I guess he doesn't believe it himself or he is telling fibs to be polite.

            • Reply by LVReyes on 2016-10-28 22:39:47

              The ARC attorney Mr. Stewart asked Geoffrey Jackson if the members of the Governing Body consider themselves to be God's spokesperson on earth.

              To which Jackson answered, "That would be presumptuous of us."

              And yet the published articles, approved by the Governing Body for publication, prove that he either lied under oath about what he believes or that he admitted that the claims in the Watchtower magazines are false:

              "Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his “faithful and discreet slave,” made up of spirit anointed ones, to help Christians in all nations to understand and apply properly the Bible in their lives. Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do." - Watchtower 12/1/1981; p. 27

              "All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave." - Watchtower 10/1/1994; p. 8

              "We need to guard against developing a spirit of independence. By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today. “ - Watchtower 11/15/09; p. 14 par. 5

  • Comment by THE DRIFTER on 2016-10-26 14:04:50

    @Meleti, ...If asked the same question today, would you respond differently?

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-10-26 16:38:05

      Depends. What's the "same question"?

      • Reply by THE DRIFTER on 2016-10-26 18:42:14

        @Meleti - "The whole issue was whether or not I recognized the authority of the Governing Body...

        ...They wanted to know if I would continue to obey the Governing Body."

        • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2016-10-26 19:44:31

          Got it! Good question. My answer would be different now, but my circumstances are different now. Then, I was still serving as an elder in the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, so in that office I had certain obligations and responsibilities which I had accepted as part of my appointment by those men. It would be like working for a company that requires a dress code. If you want to work for the company, you have to accept the dress code.

          However, given my understanding of the true nature of the Governing Body, I could not bring myself to submit to their governance ever again, anymore than I could allow myself to submit to the authority of the Pope of Rome.

  • Comment by lazarus on 2016-10-26 15:45:44

    Thanks Meleti, you would expect from men who obey the Christ and Jehovah, to reason that their allegiance should be to them first. And welcomed your response, as a assurance were your love and loyalty lie. But as you rightly explain, their are Pharisees amongst us. And this attitude stems from the top. Thanks for relating the experience. Courage and endurance is needed for sure, & tact even in the most basic rule of thumb. It doesn't apply in a man ruled (GB's)corporation, Christ is only a back seat driver, used as needed, sorry no disrespect to our Lord.

    In line with the time Graph, of the study. It has a starting point in 1870. The little group of 5 started a earnest study of the Bible.

    I asked 5 people 1 elder and 4 publishers, Who the first President of the Society was? Answer : Russell. Well as it turns out the 1st President of the Watchtower Tract Society. Isn't Bro Russell. You recall the 5 member study group of 1870, they composed of The Russell's, Dad Joseph, CT Russell and his Sister, the other two, Mr & Mrs H Conley. He was the first president.

    Check out his life on Wiki.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Conley

    There is a brief mention of H Conley as the First President in the Proclaimers Bk. chapter 26 p576 has a reference to Conley . From 1881-1884.

    I'm curious why he gets no mention .Through out the 100 years until a paragraph in 1993. Proclaimers Bk.

    I think there's an even bigger story here. Even after he (Conely) died, there was no mention of him in the WT. Others were noted, Like Storrs & Stenston . Yet 3 years earlier in the 1890's , Russell had a letter from Conley stating that Russell was part of the initial Bible study Group. Why would he need proof from Conley, that he was part of this initial study group? I'm in the middle of research on this.

    I've been associated with the Org. For a few decades, this was news to me. Thought I'd share it with you.

    How did those I asked this question respond? 1 was aggressive, later apologising for the behaviour. My response to him was that, were studying our history, just like when we speak to others to examine their History in line with what the Bible Teaches. The other 2, don't care about the past, the other 2 thought it was interesting.

  • Comment by cx_516 on 2016-10-26 19:48:38

    Thank you for the article. It was clearer than ever as I read that their claim of being the only 'channel' of God but not inspired him is such an intentional convolution of their role. It leaves the follower with a sense of mystery that works in their favor, e.g. "They're not prophets or inspired, but they're the only channel used by Jesus and Jehovah with an uncanny sense to publish articles at just the right time".

    Reflecting on the terms 'channel' and 'being used by God' its not a stretch to associate the them with what happens with a spirit medium. (Now I'm not claiming that the GB are such, I'm merely making the comparison) A medium is a channel for another's communication. Sometimes a medium claims to be just used in a certain sense, and not possessed of any special power.

    Why would our Father let himself be represented by a group that could be so closely associated with a 'type' of medium? It's creepy. It's in direct conflict with how Jehovah and Jesus reveal their actions in the Bible. They're all about Revelation, a time for all to be revealed.

  • Comment by Smoldering Wick on 2016-10-27 14:03:48

    Thank you Meleti for telling your story. Makes me want to tell mine. Truly cautious as serpents and innocent as doves we all need to be as Jesus advised his own when sending them to preach (and that to those of their OWN religion! So, no wonder they would worry since being thrown out of the synagogue was disastrous to any Jew! )

    Which all reminds me of a television show we used to watch at the turn of the century. ...Crime Scene Investigation ( or CSI, you might recall was kind of raw yet truthful in the words of its lead actor, Grissom, "Follow the evidence."

    Checking the WT Library over 2,000 "evidentlys" are stated. While most are obvious, the critical are presumed with no evidence to substantiate.

    Yes the cherry pickers of history preserve doctrine at whatever the cost!

    Affectionately yours in Christ,

  • Comment by william on 2016-10-27 18:41:42

    Mileti, you said that you naively told elders that Acts 5:29 meant that you might theoretically have to put God above men, that is, the Bible above the teaching of the governing body. Somebody who studied with me in the late 60's told me he liked to just use the Bible, the Make Sure book, and All Scripture is Inspired of God and beneficial because “they were just the Bible.” I think I knew what he meant even though I was a teen-ager. For example, I never accepted the typology, and you were not going to read Watchtower typology in the books he mentioned. People I knew at Bethel made comments similar yours about Acts 5:29 in the 70's. I may be boring you with what you already know, but your comment sort of became sort of a disfellowshiping offense in 1980. Rejection of a list of Watchtower teachings was “apostasy and actionable for congregational discipline” according to the Chairman's Committee's memorandum of 4/28/80, according to pages 119-120 of Apocalypse Delayed: The Story of Jehovah's Witnesses, 2nd edition, by M. James Penton. Your comment came close to violating two items on the list.
    “(1) That Jehovah does not have an organization of earth today and its Governing Body is not directed by Jehovah.”
    “(3.) There is no proper arrangement as a 'faithful and discreet slave' class made up of the anointed ones and their Governing Body to direct affairs of Jehovah's people. At Matt. 24:45 Jesus used this expression only as an illustration of faithfulness of individuals. Rules are not needed; only follow the Bible.”
    The 4th edition of Crisis of Conscience presents a copy of a letter from the Watchtower Society to all circuit and district overseers, dated September 1, 1980, (on page 341), which says that whereas a Witness who is “weak in faith and has doubts should be patiently and lovingly assisted,” but that if after the “extended, kindly efforts to readjust [the Witness's] thinking, he continues to believe the apostate ideas ... then appropriate action should be taken.” The letter clearly says that “to be disfellowshiped, an apostate does not have to be a promoter of apostate views.” So if elders are still instructed to treat you the way they were instructed to do then, they are supposed to patiently and lovingly restore you (which is impossible since you are in the right), and eventually disfellowship you.

  • Comment by anonymous on 2016-10-27 22:55:41

    "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjust- ments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. So how can we answer Jesus’ question: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” (Matt. 24:45) What evidence is there that the Governing Body is filling that role?"

    - The Watchtower Feb 2017 p.26

    So we get things wrong doctrinally, just don't make waves and you won't get disfellowshipped and lose your family. Please keep preaching known doctrinal error until our understanding is adjusted. By the way, we love all you brothers dearly - GB

  • Comment by Smoldering Wick on 2016-10-28 02:04:06

    Dear anonymous GB,

    A brave comment indeed! And if you are speaking for the FDS, I pray that you will endure the coming retribution for it will arrive upon us all just as Jesus foretold in Luke 12:42 on . . .

    “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time? 43 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! 44 I tell you truthfully, he will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’ and starts to beat the male and female servants and to eat and drink and get drunk, 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones. 47 Then that slave who understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do what he asked will be beaten with many strokes. 48 But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.

    May we all endure the fire yet to come.

    Affectionately yours,
    smoldering wick 1

    • Reply by anonymous on 2016-10-28 02:55:02

      Hey smolderingwick,
      Please take my previous tongue in cheek comment with the huge dose of sarcasm with which it was intended ? I think that you think I was actually being serious. I do have a warped sense of humour though. But it's not that funny because loss of my own family is an ever present danger. I hate it when men presumptuously claim to speak for God

      • Reply by Smoldering Wick on 2016-10-29 02:06:13

        Hey anonymous, and while I did suspect your tongue was stuck in your cheek, I was hoping that the real guys were more covertly listeing or engaged. And for that reason alone I pray they will reconsider their self-appointed status in light of Jesus' words in that portion of Luke's record. I actually fear for them all!
        Blrotherly affection,

  • Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2016-10-28 03:38:03

    Just a simple statement. No one minds changes in teaching, provided they are evidence of the " light getting brighter". in that way we can properly attribute them to the operation of holy spirit. But if the FDS are not inspired, as they claim not to be, then the only source of holy spirit must use God's word, In which case any change in teaching must rely on the clear statements in the Bible. That being the case how many teachings can you list that have been changed, but with little or no evidence of inspiration from the scriptures ? I'll throw in two which are relatively recent

    1. The change in the generation teaching
    2. The change of Micah 6 to "Cherish loyalty" from "Love Kindness" - significant when you consider a convention was built round this thought.

    Remember these are changes from those representing Jesus and Jehovah.

    Can we have some more

  • Comment by Menrov on 2016-10-28 07:14:44

    Regarding proof, see this: Luke 2:25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem named Simeon who was righteous and devout, looking for the restoration of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Christ


    Now compare this with the generation teaching from the WBTS: if the original view was correct, they would have seen Jesus, just like Simeon. But they did not. A promise to a simple man like Simeon was realized as promised. It seems the WBTS gb is not like Simeon....

  • Comment by 2017, March 20-26 – Our Christian Life and Ministry | Beroean Pickets - JW.org Reviewer on 2017-03-20 18:05:22

    […] Paragraph 7 makes the unsubstantiated claim we are all too familiar with, that “Jesus put in place a clearly recognisable channel.”  The claim is that that channel is the faithful and discreet slave, which Christ allegedly appointed in 1919.  The falsehood of this claim was covered in the 2016, Oct 24-30 – Clam Review. […]

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