Hello, everyone. Eric Wilson here. This is going to be a brief video because I’m still getting my new place set up. It was an exhausting move. (May I never have to do another one.) But soon the video studio is fully configured, I hope to be able to use it to produce videos more quickly.
As we have observed on previous occasions, more and more Jehovah’s Witnesses are waking up to the reality of the organization. News coverage of the child sexual abuse scandal is not going away and is becoming harder and harder for sincere Witnesses to ignore. Then, there’s the alarming reality of the widespread sale of Kingdom halls and the subsequent shrinkage in the number of congregations. Five have just been put up for sale in my area alone, and that’s just the beginning. Many longstanding congregations have simply disappeared, being subsumed to make one from two or from three. Increase and expansion have always been what Jehovah’s Witnesses point to when they claim God’s blessing, but that no longer fits the reality.
When the day finally comes for some who awaken, the majority sadly abandon all hope. So fearful are they of being deceived ever again that they actually fall prey to further deception, believing that there is no God, or if there is, he doesn’t really care about us. They go on the internet and swallow down all manner of silly conspiracy theories and anyone who wants to trash the Bible becomes their guru.
Having seen the organization for what it is, they now question everything. Don’t get me wrong. It’s important to question everything, but if you’re going to do it, then do it. Critical thinking doesn’t question some things and then stop. The critical thinker doesn’t find an answer he or she likes and then turns off the mind. The real critical thinker questions everything!
Let me illustrate. Let’s say that you question whether the flood really occurred. That’s a really big question, because both Jesus and Peter referred to the Flood of Noah’s Day, so if it never occurred, it really means we can’t trust any of the Bible as God’s word. It’s just another book from men. (Mt 24:36-39; 1 Pe 3:19, 20) Fine, so you want to know if there is anything that would either prove or disprove that the Flood described in Genesis really happened.
You go on the internet and you find some who claim that it could not have happened because the age of the pyramids is known and according to Bible chronology, they were already built when the Flood happened, so there should be water damage showing, yet there is none. Therefore, the conclusion is that the Flood is a Bible myth.
The reasoning sounds logical. You accept as fact the date of the Flood as expressed in Scripture and the age of the pyramids as established by archeology and science. So, the conclusion seem inescapable.
But are you truly thinking critically? Are you really questioning everything?
If you have listened to my videos you will know that I am a strong proponent of critical thought. That doesn’t just apply to the teachings of religious leaders, but must apply to everyone who presumes to teach us, instruct us, or just share their opinions with us. It certainly applies to me. I would not want anyone to accept anything I say at face value. A proverb says, “thinking ability will keep watch over you, and discernment will safeguard you…” (Pr 2:11)
Our ability to think, to discern, to critically analyse is what safeguards us from the deception which is all around us. But thinking ability or critical thinking is like a muscle. The more you use it, the stronger it gets. Use it only a little, and it gets weaker.
So, what are we missing if we accept the reasoning of those who claim the age of the pyramids prove there was no Flood?
The Bible tells us:
“The first to state his case seems right, Until the other party comes and cross-examines him.” (Pr 18:17)
If we listen only to videos that try to prove there was no Flood, we are only hearing one side of the argument. Yet, we might say, how could anyone argue against this. It’s just math. True, but this math is based on two premises which we have accepted unquestioningly. A critical thinker questions everything—everything. If you do not question the premise upon which an argument is based, how do you know your argument has a rock-solid foundation? For all you know, you might actually be building on sand.
The argument against the Flood being true is that ‘the age of the pyramids is known and it predates the date the Bible sets for the Flood, yet there is no evidence of water damage on any of the pyramids.’
I am a Bible student, so I have a natural bias causing me to believe the Bible is always right. Therefore, the one element of this argument that I would be disinclined to question is that the Bible is wrong about the date of the Flood. And it is for this reason, this personal bias, that the one premise I should question above all others is whether the Bible chronology is accurate.
That may sound like an astonishing statement to make, but I want to think about it this way: What I am holding in my hand is a bible, but really it is not a bible. We call it a bible, but when we read the title, it says, “The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures”. It’s a translation. This is also a translation: The Jerusalem Bible. It’s called a bible, but it’s a translation; this one by the Catholic Church. And over here, we have the Holy Bible—simply called the Holy Bible…King James. The full name is the King James Version. It’s called a version. A version of what? Again, all of these are versions, or translations, or renderings of…original manuscripts? No. Of copies. No one has the original manuscripts; the actual parchments, or tablets, or whatever it may be that were penned by the original Bible writers. All we have are copies. That’s not a bad thing. Actually, it’s quite a good thing, as we’ll see later on. But the important thing to remember is that we’re dealing with translations; so therefore, we have to question: What are they translated from? Are there multiple sources and do they agree?
I should add a little note in here for those who think the King James is the only true Bible. It is a good Bible, yes, but it was done by a committee appointed by King James and as any other committee that works on any Bible translation, they were guided by their own understanding and their own biases. So really, we cannot except any particular translation or version as the one Bible. But rather we should use all of them and then go deeper into interlinears until we find the truth.
The points I’m trying to make are these: If you’re going to question anything in Scripture make sure you listen to both sides of the argument. And if you’re going to question anything, make sure you question everything, even things you hold to be fundamentally and unalterably true.
I have come to believe that the age of the pyramids actually contributes to proving there was a flood. But instead of explaining that, I’m going to let someone else do it. After all, why reinvent the wheel when someone has already done it and done it better than I would have.
At the end of this video I will put up a video link for you to follow to get the answers to the questions we have just raised. The author of the video is a Christian like myself. I don’t know him personally and so cannot say that I would agree with all his scriptural understandings, but I will not allow differences of opinion to separate me from anyone who believes sincerely in the Christ. That is the mindset of Jehovah’s Witnesses and I no longer accept that as valid. But what is important here is not the messenger, but the message. You must make your own evaluation based on the evidence. Just make sure always that you look at all the evidence before arriving at a conclusion. I hope to be back in the swing of things next week but until then, may our Lord continue to bless your work.
Thanks for posting this, Eric. It looks like excellent research to me.
As someone who had previously associated with the witnesses for many years though thankfully never getting baptised, and finally realising through research that far from having the ‘truth’ Jehovah’s Witnesses beliefs were no more inspired by God than any other religion, I took to examining the bible at great length and came to the conclusion that the bible was no more than an ancient book on the history of the Jews trying to find their way in the world as they knew it. I read with interest the article on Noah’s flood on your website and how there would appear… Read more »
[…] JamesBrown as I promised to do at the start of this video. I’m reading excerpts, but I’ll put a link to his comment in the description for those who wish to read the entire experience. (If you need to read it in […]
[…] de JamesBrown como prometí hacer al comienzo de este video. Estoy leyendo extractos, pero pondré un enlace de su comentario en la descripción para aquellos que deseen leer toda la experiencia. (Si necesita leerlo en su […]
While I applaud the desire to tackle what appears to be a serious chronological problem, I have always trusted the Bibles chronology above secular chronology. It’s what led me out of Jehovah’s Witnesses. For example, the Babylonian era is the best example of a time period which has multiple lines of evidence to support the time period of 70 years, thus fully corroborating the Bible and what is says about this period. There is basically no doubt at all about this. But the Persian period and Egyptian period, as far as I am aware, are not as rock solid, so… Read more »
Please would you tell me, if there are other translations of Septuagint, where the chronology differs to that I was used to review that video? For example, the time at Terach in Septuagint published in
is different to video. Terach begot Abram in 70th year of his life (Gen 11:26) and not in 130th year, as shown in the video (12’10”). Also many other dates differ as to birth of patriarchs.
As to Methusaleh, he managed to hide in second deck :o).
Eric, if that article and video had been produced by JW.Org, we would be thinking – “Wow, someone has done some really good research and has not been afraid of examining a tricky subject “. What would it have opened up ? The need to examine all sources of information. What of JW teachings would have been affected ? Just the given date of creation. In other words nothing that would have affected the rest of their teachings. Unfortunately for them, it would have indicated that the NWT is probably not so accurate, But they would have been able to… Read more »
Wow, thank you for sharing that video! That’s an isssue I had many discussions with my darling about after seeing a meme that claimed exactly what the atheists say about the pyramids and the water damage. I will show it to them and hopefully it will make the way to Jesus a bit easier to go. Also, that story about the masoretic texts certainly shows us how important it is to compare many sources instead of just relying on a single committee of self proclaimed prophets.
Both videos are very good and thought provoking. Thanks Eric for the hard work you are putting in in order to assist us in arriving at well formed understandings of Scriptual matters. I started attending meetings of JWs over 70 years ago, when I was 4 and grew up to value spiritual matters, but for many years I believed Noah’s flood to have been a worldwide event rather than an earth-wide one. One of the reasons has now been eased given that there is a strong argument in favor of there being many more years than just the 100 between… Read more »
I don’t know if you are still attending meetings, but years ago WT gave up the idea that the planet here is new. Flash of light reasoning helped them realize that the creative days in Genesis could have been any length of time. One day could have been a billion years for all we know, and WT agrees to that now, and has for some time. The analogy WT used was a sentence claiming your grandfather’s day only represents a general time period he lived in, and not a specific time, like a day. So, WT stopped trying to link… Read more »
Hi Eric I just like the way you and others on this site present the truth, the facts and the way to reason from the bible. I don’t know if you have been reading my experience with 3 elders regarding Rev 4:11, it was “hell” on earth, anyway, I had a visit from 2 elders to try to set my mind straight last night, and meanwhile my wife was in tears and begging me to listen to the elders and the GB directions. I am almost 70 years old; I have been made fun off for my critical thinking, and… Read more »
Hi James, I think you temporarily stumped them with your question, because rationally it exposed their false belief in Matthew 24:45. It’s likely they will be back at some time. Years ago I saw some videos of ex-JWs, and in the videos I reference, elders had asked publishers those type of questions, according to the publishers in them. The publishers said when they didn’t answer the WT way they got disfellowshipped. So, it looks like they are definitely looking for a reason to disfellowship you at this point. By now your whole elder body knows about your situation, or they… Read more »
They have such blind faith in the men of the Governing Body. They assume they are these brilliant spirit-directed Bible scholars as revealed by the oft-repeated dismissive, “So, you think you know more than the Governing Body?” Well, we know enough to listen to the Christ. We know enough to be loyal to our master rather than men. We know enough to acknowledge when we’ve made a mistake and not blame others for it. Does that count? The spirit gives us knowledge, not the Governing Body and your brilliant spirit-inspired answer truly demonstrates that. Thank you so much for sharing… Read more »
Good morning Eric
I cannot wait for your next video and it will be my pleasure to have you use what I said to the elders.
Thanks again Eric
Thanks for posting the link to this video. The Flood has been a subject of interest to me, and it seems that as the years go by, my degree of interest has significantly increased. I have watched numerous videos made by Christian Geologists and I am familiar with their theories, many of which strike me as highly credible. The explanation of how the Flood shaped the earth make a great deal of sense. It has always fascinated me that some parts on the North American Continent are very smooth, while others are quite rugged. The transition between these areas can… Read more »
Great video and item , Eric. That will get the old grey cells working overtime.