Hello everyone. Good of you to join us. I’m Eric Wilson, also known as Meleti Vivlon; the alias I used for years when I was just trying to study the Bible free from indoctrination and wasn’t yet ready to endure the persecution that inevitably comes when a Witness doesn’t conform to Watchtower dogma.
I finally got the place ready. It’s taken me a month since I moved, as I mentioned in a previous video, and it’s taken all that time to get the place ready, everything unpacked, the studio ready. But I think it was all worth it, because now it should be easier for me to produce these videos…well, a little bit easier. Most of the work isn’t in shooting the video but in putting together the transcript, because I have to make sure that everything I say is accurate and can be backed up with references.
In any case, on to the subject at hand.
The Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses has become super sensitive in recent years to any hint of dissent. Even mild questioning can cause the elders to react and before you know it, you’re in the backroom of your Kingdom hall facing the dreaded question: “Do you believe the Governing Body is God’s channel to communicate truth to his organization today?”
This is seen as a litmus test, a kind of oath of fealty. If you say, ‘Yes’, you are denying your Lord Jesus. Any answer other than an unequivocal ‘Yes’ will lead to persecution in the form of shunning. You will be cut off from pretty much everyone you have ever known and cared about. Worse, they’ll all think of you as an apostate, and there is no worse designation in their eyes; because an apostate is condemned to eternal death.
Your mother will weep for you. Your mate will very likely seek separation and divorce. Your children will cut you off.
Heavy stuff.
What can you do, especially if your awakening is not yet at the point where a clean break seems desirable? Recently, one of our commenters, who goes by the alias, JamesBrown, faced the dreaded question, and his answer is the best one I’ve heard to date. But before I share that with you, a word of explanation about this video.
I had intended for it to be an analysis of the so-called prophecy of the last days found at Matthew chapter 24, Mark chapter 13 and Luke chapter 21. I wanted it to be a denomination-free study of those verses. The idea is that we will approach the subject like we were first-time readers of the Bible having never belonged to any Christian religion before, and thus be free of all bias and preconceptions. However, I realized that a word of warning was called for. Those three parallel accounts are very seductive to the human ego in that they hold the promise of hidden knowledge. This was not our Lord’s intent upon uttering those prophetic words, but human imperfection being what it is, many have succumbed to the temptation of reading their own personal interpretation into Jesus’ words. We call this eisegesis, and it is a plague. We don’t want to be infected by it, so a word of warning is called for.
I think that more false Christian prophets have resulted from misapplying Jesus’ prophecy than from any other part of Scripture. In fact, he warns us about this, saying, in Matthew 24: 11 that “Many false prophets will arise and mislead many”, and then again in verse 24, “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead…even the chosen ones.”
I’m not suggesting that all these men start out with wicked intent. In fact, I think that in most cases, they are motivated by a sincere desire to know the truth. However, good intentions do not excuse bad conduct, and running ahead of God’s word is always a bad thing. You see, once you start down this path, you become invested in your own theories and predictions. When you convince others to believe as you do, you build a following. Soon, you reach a point of no return. After that, when things fail, it becomes painful to admit you were wrong, so you may take the easier path—as many have done—and rework your interpretation to breathe new life into it, to keep your followers bound to you.
Historically, this has been the course which the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses has taken.
This raises the question: “Is the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses a false prophet?”
Officially, they deny the label by claiming that they are just imperfect men who are trying their best to understand the bible and have erred from time to time, but willingly admit their mistakes and move on to a brighter and brighter light of revelation.
Is that true?
Well, as for the oft-raised apologetic that they freely admit their mistakes, I would ask for some evidence of that. Decade after decade throughout my life, they altered their interpretation as to the start and length of “this generation”, always pushing back the date by 10 years after each failure. Did each change come with an apology, or even an admission that they had messed up? When they abandoned the calculation altogether in the mid 1990s, did they apologize for misleading millions for half a century with a false calculation? When 1975 came and went, did they humbly acknowledge that they were responsible for getting the hopes of all witnesses up? Or did they and do they continue to blame the rank and file for “misreading their words”? Where is the admission of error and the repentance for compromising the organization’s neutrality after a 10-year affiliation with the United Nations?
All that being said, a failure to acknowledge error doesn’t mean you are a false prophet. A bad Christian, yes, but a false prophet? Not necessarily. What constitutes being a false prophet?
To answer that vital question, we will first turn to the historical record. While there have been innumerable examples of failed interpretations within the annuls of Christianity, we will concern ourselves only with those pertaining to the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses. While Jehovah’s Witnesses only came into being in 1931, when the remaining 25% of the original Bible Student groups affiliated with Russell still loyal to J. F. Rutherford adopted the name, their theological roots can be traced back to William Miller of Vermont, U.S.A. who predicted Christ would return in 1843. (I will put links to all the reference material in the description of this video.)
Miller based this prediction on various calculations taken from time periods in the book of Daniel thought to have a secondary or antitypical fulfillment in his day. He also based his research on the aforementioned prophecies of Jesus. Of course, nothing happened in 1843. He redrafted his calculation adding a year, but nothing happened in 1844 either. Disillusionment inevitably followed. Yet, the movement he started did not die off. It transformed into a branch of Christianity known as Adventism. (This refers to Christians whose primary focus is on the “advent” or “coming” of the Christ.)
Using Miller’s calculations, but adjusting the start date, an Adventist named Nelson Barbour concluded that Jesus would return in 1874. Of course, that didn’t happen either, but Nelson was crafty and instead of admitting he’d failed, he redefined the Advent of the Lord as heavenly and therefore invisible. (Ring a bell?)
He also predicted that the great tribulation culminating in Armageddon was going to start in 1914.
Barbour met C.T. Russell in 1876 and they joined forces for a time publishing Bible material. Up to that point, Russell had disdained prophetic chronology, but through Barbour he became a true believer in antitypes and time calculations. Even after they split up over a disagreement about the nature of the Ransom, he continued to preach that humans were living during the presence of Christ and that the end would start in 1914.
Russell’s last will and testament provided for a 7-man executive committee to control the running of the publishing house known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. It also established a 5-man editorial committee. Right after Russell died, Rutherford used legal machinations to wrest control from the executive committee and have himself placed at the helm of the company to direct its affairs. As to publishing Bible interpretations, the editorial committee exercised ever-waning influence over Rutherford until 1931 when he dissolved it completely. So, the idea that a group of men, a governing body, acted as the faithful and discreet slave from 1919 onward throughout the presidency of J.F. Rutherford is contradicted by the facts of history. He considered himself the supreme leader of the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses, its generalissimo.
Shortly after Russell passed, Rutherford began preaching that “millions now living will never die”. He meant that literally, because he predicted that the second phase of the Great Tribulation—remember that they still believed the Tribulation had started in 1914—would start in 1925 with the resurrection of such worthy men as King David, Abraham, Daniel, and the like. They even bought a mansion in San Diego, California known as Beth Sarim to house these ones known as “the ancient worthies”. [Show Beth Sarim] Of course, nothing happened in 1925.
In Rutherford’s later years—he died in 1942—he changed the start of Christ’s invisible presence from 1874 to 1914, but left 1914 as the start of the Great Tribulation. The second phase of the Great Tribulation was to be Armageddon.
In 1969, the Organization changed the prediction that the great tribulation had started in 1914, placing that event in the very near future, specifically on or before 1975. This was based on the erroneous assumption that each creative day described in Genesis was of equal length and measured 7000 years. Based on the calculations taken from the Masoretic text on which most Bibles are based, this brought the age of Man’s existence to 6000 years as of 1975. Of course, if we go by other credible manuscript sources, the year 1325 marks the end of 6000 years from Adam’s creation.
It hardly needs saying that yet again a prediction made by the leaders of the organization failed to come true.
Next, Witnesses were directed to look to a period from 1984 to 1994 since Psalm 90:10 puts the average lifespan as between 70 and 80 years and the generation that saw the start in 1914 would have to be alive to see the end. That passed as well, and now we are staring down the start of the third decade of the 21st century, and still the organization is predicting the end to come within a generation, albeit a wholly new definition of the word.
So, are these the mistakes of imperfect men just trying their best to decipher God’s word, or are we being misled by a false prophet.
Rather than speculate, let’s go to the Bible to see how it defines a “false prophet”.
We’ll read from Deuteronomy 18:20-22. I’m going to read from the New World Translation since we are focusing on Jehovah’s Witnesses, but the principle expressed here is universally applicable.
“If any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that I did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.” (De 18:20-22)
Really, does anything else have to be said? Don’t these three verses tell us all we need to know to guard ourselves against false prophets? I assure you that there is no other place in the Bible that gives us such clarity in so few words on this topic.
For example, in verse 20 we see just how serious it is to prophesy falsely in the name of God. It was a capital crime in the time of Israel. If you did it, they would take you outside the camp and stone you to death. Of course, the Christian congregation does not execute anyone. But God’s justice has not changed. So those who prophesy falsely and do not repent of their sin should expect a harsh judgment from God.
Verse 21 raises the expected question, ‘How are we to know whether someone is a false prophet?’
Verse 22 gives us the answer and it really couldn’t be simpler. If someone claims to speak in God’s name and predicts the future, and that future doesn’t come true, that person is a false prophet. But it goes beyond that. It says that such a person is presumptuous. Further, it tells us “not to fear him.” This is a translation of the Hebrew word, guwr, which means “to sojourn”. That is its most frequent rendering. So, when the Bible tells us not to be afraid of the false prophet, it isn’t talking about the type of fear that makes you run away but rather the type of fear that causes you to stay with a person. Essentially, the false prophet gets you to follow him—to stay with him—because you are afraid to ignore his prophetic warnings. Thus, the purpose of a false prophet is to become your leader, to turn you away from your true leader, the Christ. This is the role of Satan. He acts presumptuously, lies to deceive people as he did to Eve when he told her prophetically, “you will not die”. She sojourned with him and suffered the consequences.
Of course, no false prophet openly admits to being one. Indeed, he will warn those who follow him about others, accusing them of being false prophets. We return to our question, “Is the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses a false prophet?”
They say emphatically that they are not. Indeed, they have provided Jehovah’s Witnesses with extensive information on how to identify one who is truly a false prophet.
In the book, Reasoning from the Scriptures, the Governing Body has devoted 6 pages of Scriptural references to fully instruct Jehovah’s Witnesses on what constitutes a false prophet, with a view to defending the faith against this accusation. They even provide suggestions on how to answer common objections that might be raised at the door.
They cite verses from John, Matthew, Daniel, Paul and Peter. They even cite Deuteronomy 18:18-20, but remarkably, the very best answer to the question, “How do we identify a false prophet?”, is notably missing. Six pages of analysis and not a mention of Deuteronomy 18:22. Why would they overlook the single best answer to that question?
I think one of the best ways to answer that question is to read the experience from JamesBrown as I promised to do at the start of this video. I’m reading excerpts, but I’ll put a link to his comment in the description for those who wish to read the entire experience. (If you need to read it in your own language, you can use translate.google.com and copy-and-paste the experience into that application.)
It reads as follows (with a little bit of editing for spelling and readability):
Hi Eric
I don’t know if you have been reading my experience with 3 elders regarding Rev 4:11. It was “hell” on earth. Anyway, I had a visit from 2 elders to try to set my mind straight last night, and meanwhile my wife was in tears and begging me to listen to the elders and the directions of the Governing Body.
I am almost 70 years old; I have been made fun of for my critical thinking, and I have even been accused to knowing more than the Governing Body.
Before they came, I went in my room and prayed for wisdom and keeping my mouth shut, and somehow “PRAISE” the Governing Body for all they do.
I was asked again, if I believed the Governing Body is God’s ONLY channel on earth that gets us close to Jehovah, and that we are the ONLY ones to teach the truth, and also if we follow their direction, everlasting life awaits us?
A light bulb came on in my head, and please don’t ask me what I had 2 days ago for lunch, but I quoted John 14:6. “Jesus said to him: ‘I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.’”
I said, “Please listen to what I have to say then you can make up your minds.” I explained that I have come to believe the Governing Body is Jesus Christ on earth. Let me explain. I quoted their words: “The Governing Body is God’s ONLY channel on earth and that we are the ONLY ones to teach the truth. Also, if we listen to and follow directions, everlasting life awaits us.”
So, I said, “Compare the 2 statements. You said, “The Governing Body is God’s ONLY channel on earth.” Isn’t that the WAY Christ said about himself? We are the ONLY ones to teach the truth.” Isn’t this what Jesus said about HIS teaching? And if we listen to him, we will get life? So, I asked isn’t the Governing Body wanting us to get close to Jehovah? So, I believe the Governing Body is Jesus Christ on earth.”
There was one incredible silence, even my wife was shocked at what I came up with.
I asked the elders, “Can you disprove my statement about the Governing Body being Jesus on earth in the light of what we are being taught at meetings and publications?”
They said the Governing Body is NOT Jesus Christ on earth and that I was stupid to think that way.
I asked, “Are you saying they are NOT the way, the truth, the life, in getting us close to Jehovah in the light of the scripture I read about Jesus?”
The younger elder said “NO”, the older one said “YES”. A debate ensued between them in front of my eyes. My wife was disappointed by their disagreements, and I kept my mouth shut.
After the prayer, they left and they were sitting in the car for a long time outside my house, and I could hear them arguing; and then they left.
Love to all
Brilliant, wasn’t it? Notice, he prayed first and had a different goal in mind, but when the time came, the holy spirit took over. This, in my humble opinion, is proof of Jesus’ words at Luke 21:12-15:
“But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name. It will result in your giving a witness. Therefore, resolve in your hearts not to rehearse beforehand how to make your defense, for I will give you words and wisdom that all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute.”
You see how what the elders expressed to JamesBrown proves that the failed prophetic predictions of the Governing Body over our lifetime cannot be explained away as merely the failings of imperfect men?
Let’s compare what they said with what we read in Deuteronomy 18:22.
“When a prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah…”
The elders said that “the Governing Body is God’s only channel on earth and that we are the only ones to teach the truth.”
Those men are only echoing a teaching they have heard from the convention platform and read in the publications time and again. For example:
“Surely there is ample evidence to show that you can trust the channel that Jehovah has used for nearly a hundred years now to lead us in the way of the truth.” July 2017 Watchtower, page 30. Interestingly, that little gem comes from an article entitled “Winning the Battle for Your Mind.”
In case there’s any doubt as to who is the one speaking for God today in the minds of Jehovah’s Witnesses, we have this from the July 15, 2013 Watchtower, page 20 paragraph 2 under the title, “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”
“That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.”
Is there any doubt left that the Governing Body claim to speak in the name of Jehovah? They may deny it out of one corner of their mouth when it suits them, but it is clear that out of the other corner they repeatedly state that truth from God only comes through them. They speak in God’s name.
The concluding words of Deuteronomy 18:22 tell us not to fear the false prophet. That is precisely what they want us to do. For example, we are warned,
“By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today.” November 15, 2009 Watchtower page 14, paragraph 5.
They want us to sojourn with them, to stay with them, to follow them, to obey them. But their prophecies have failed time and again, yet they still claim to speak in God’s name. So according to Deuteronomy 18:22, they are acting presumptuously. If we are to obey God, we will not follow the false prophet.
Our Lord is the same “yesterday, today, and forever”. (Hebrews 13:8) His standard of justice does not change. If we fear the false prophet, if we follow the false prophet, then we will share the fate of the false prophet when the judge of all the earth comes to execute righteousness.
So, is the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses a false prophet? Do I have to tell you? The evidence is before you. Each one should make their own determination.
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Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2019-08-30 16:50:30
My wife regularly reminds me of Deuteronomy 18:22, so I totally concur with you, Eric. It is all so obvious. Yet, "There are none so blind as those who will not see" is an old proverb which has a lot of application today. Thank you for bringing it to our attention again, and a special thanks to JB for his experience. Like it a lot.
Comment by Adam on 2019-08-30 18:23:55
If you believe both that John 14:6. “Jesus said to him: ‘I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.’” AND “That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.” THEN the only logical conclusion can be that, as James Brown said, "the Governing Body is Jesus Christ on earth.”
Maybe the question one could ask them is: "Do you believe that the Governing Body is Jesus Christ on earth?"
Comment by messenger on 2019-08-30 21:22:09
One irony of action on the part of WT is that at times it teaches about Pharisees and other leaders in the old Jewish church, describes how they observed a lot of unbiblical religious traditions, and how they looked down on other Jews who didn't observe those religious traditions, which they taught WERE biblical. I called that ironic because WT teaches and acts that way also. WT will kick you out of its church and teach you are dead to God, if you are a member they find does not observe its traditional teachings, or it's new teachings when traditional teachings are changed unless you repent from THAT position. Christ walked and taught in that type of apostate church, and, like WT, it kicked him out and killed him because Christ's words were different than theirs.
The greatest danger in walking with real apostates-what apostates really are according to scripture- is in doing what the apostates do while one has proper knowledge that to do so is inappropriate. For an ignorant Christian to do so is not as bad, as they at least temporarily have no choice, because of their ignorance. But it is very dangerous for a knowledgeable Christian to do so. Because teaching what one believes are apostate teachings shows a lack of faith in God. And it is at least borderline idolatry to do so, because that person puts exercising faith towards an organization in front of exercising faith towards God.
So there is a highwire, or tightrope, to walk for a knowledgeable Christian who stays part of the WT group. Now I define knowledgeable as including an awareness of what WT is. That is that WT, as an organization, is, in fact, apostate. For that knowledgeable Witness who stays, the pull on one side of him is to teach WT 's mistakes, and the pull on his other side is to tell what truths he knows about God, specifically those truths that defy WT and some of its teachings.
Christ went as far as telling some leaders of that Jewish faith in his time that they didn't know what they were talking about. He went even further with his main message, that they MUST follow him to know God. That got him killed, and he warned us the same could happen to us inside certain Church groups.
I decided not to go back to the Kingdom Hall. No one told me not to. I decided that myself. Before I made that decision I attended for some time, knowing WT was not what it claims to be, that WT is in fact apostate. During that time I didn't offer comments at the Hall. Not because someone told me not to. I felt like I would be supporting WT teachings if I did, so I didn't. Since I see the greatest danger in remaining inside WT is supporting teachings one believes are wrong, I decided not to speak during meetings.
I believe supporting what one knows are unbiblical teachings inside a religious organization to be so very dangerous, not because the teachings are wrong, but because that Christian would believe he is teaching wrong teachings. Again, not acting in faith presents the greatest danger for one who associates inside a religious body he disagrees with. If they are like WT and you tell them the truths that YOU know, they kill you (in a figurative way, while teaching YOU commited figurative suicide). Teach what you believe are their false Bible interpretations, and you sin against God. Do that long enough, and you practice idolatry.
Comment by Psalmbee on 2019-09-01 00:42:20
Claiming to be Jesus on Earth would bring reproach on Jehovah's Name, I don't believe they'll ever make that proclamation, they are just another disguise of the elements of the AntiChrist, that have made failed predictions while claiming to be Jehovah's only Channel. It's fact that they are false prophets. The funny thing is that, it doesn't matter to nonawakeable* or unwoken* ones, as long as Armageddon is just around the corner, It's kinda hard to prove that wrong.
Psalmbee... (Ps 73:8)
Comment by rusticshore on 2019-09-01 10:24:49
JWEXPOSED.ORG
Comment by safeguardyourheart on 2019-09-02 16:00:42
@ Meleti.......They cite verses from John, Matthew, Daniel, Paul and Peter. They even cite Deuteronomy 18:18-20, but remarkably, the very best answer to the question, “How do we identify a false prophet?”, is notably missing. Six pages of analysis and not a mention of Deuteronomy 18:22. Why would they overlook the single best answer to that question?
Love this article and this part of the article as well. Appreciation to everyone on this platform who continually contribute to the articles posted here. Love you all.
My two friends here in Nig, one already out, and another in same predicament as I PIMO both said WOW to JB experience. That experience is really WOW.
Finally @messenger has shown the crossroads many PIMO are facing at the moment with his food for thought comment right there as it relate to apostasy.
Comment by jamesbrown on 2019-09-03 00:19:57
Hi Eric
I just love the way you reason from the bible and how you tie in the scriptures like a garment.
Well done and much appreciated, keep going my brother.
Take careReply by Meleti Vivlon on 2019-09-03 10:36:03
We had a lot of positive comments on your experience. I think it has become the gold standard for answering the "dreaded question". :)
Comment by Gogetter on 2019-09-03 18:43:57
Jamesbrown
That was very bold and gutsy! And obviously it was very effective.
I have developed an easier way for me when I’m finally asked the “dreaded question”
I will simply say I view the GB as they view themselves and quote Jefferey Jackson’s testimony at the ARC .
Q- And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth?
A. That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using......... Jackson
I will try to accurately quote the Feb. 2015 Watchtower (don’t want to seem to prepared)
“The Governing Body is not Spirit Inspired and not infallible , they have and will make mistakes....”
If that doesn’t get me out of the back room then I’m going for broke with your
Answer lol!
Thanks for sharing your experience
Comment by James Paul on 2019-09-04 12:30:25
Thanks bro Eric for a well researched article, I was raised a witness and now I have fully awoken and realised that I should not be enslaved by a man made religion that claims to be the way to everlasting life and thus puts itself in place of Jesus. I have been disfellowshipped twice and foremost in so that I can have everlasting life, now I realise that all I need is Jesus to be saved. May Jehovah continue to bless your work and the love you have for the truth.
Comment by Jerome on 2019-09-04 22:37:41
‘They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them’
However, Jehovah did not let the people of Christendom, as led by the clergy, go without being warned that the League was a counterfeit substitute for the real kingdom of God. He had a “prophet” to warn them. This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. They are still proclaiming a warning, and have been joined and assisted in their commissioned work by hundreds of thousands of persons who have listened to their message with belief.
Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a “prophet” of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show? (The Watchtower April 1, 1972 pg. 197)
JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning—yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking! (The Watchtower May 1, 1997 pg. 8 par. 1)
Out of their own mouths!
Comment by NikL on 2019-09-06 10:19:36
In a word, yes!
According the everything in the scriptures they definately fit the bill as to being a false prophet.
Has anyone else noticed that their "kingdom Interlinear" on the website has stopped putting in the English translation?
When doing my bible reading I like to compare certain scriptures with NWT and then seeing how it compared with their translation of the Greek. It's interesting to see how many times the translations they have don't even match up with the NWT. Their own translations!
Now I can't do it as all I get is Greek.
Another attempt to conceal their errors?Reply by SongofHannah on 2019-09-06 10:29:18
Is this in the JW Library app where they have made this change? Or on the website? (I haven’t been updating the publications on the app that have an update button for just this reason - was suspicious of why they would need to update a publication that was just fine for several years!)
Reply by NikL on 2019-09-06 10:35:26
On the website.
I don't update my app either.
Reply by Leonardo Josephus on 2019-09-07 04:24:02
No, I had not noticed that, probably because I am using a hard copy of the Interlinear, which at least has the older translation (=Reference Bible) alongside.
Comment by Frankie on 2019-09-07 17:06:30
Hi Eric.
Thank you for thorough analysis of Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and for citing the Org's own words that convince the WTS that they are a false prophet.
You wrote: "They may deny it out of one corner of their mouth when it suits them, but it is clear that out of the other corner they repeatedly state that truth from God only comes through them."
This is their hypocritical way ("doublespeak") to avoid the designation of a false prophet presented in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. Yes, as you wrote - "They speak in God's name." But in such case, they should be very careful because of Deuteronomy 18:20.
Love to you and all. Frankie.