Young Men—How Can You Gain the Trust of Others?

– posted by meleti

[W21/03 p. 2]

Reports are coming in that fewer and fewer young men are reaching out for  “privileges” in the congregation.  I believe that in great part this is due to the fact that young people are active on the internet and so are aware of the gross hypocrisy of the organization and want to part of it; but due to the threat of being shunned and cut off from family and friends, they continue to associate while avoiding reaching out for anything beyond the bare minimum.

In paragraph 2, we learn that the examples we will learn from are all from the Israelite times.  This is part of the organization’s strategy of focusing attention on the times of the law instead of the times of Christ.  Focusing on Christ will raise many questions that are best not faced by those wishing to exercise rules and laws.

Paragraph 3 speaks of non-spiritual ways in which young people can help out in the congregation.  Paragraph 4 holds the promise of a more spiritual view by speaking of caring for the flock, but when it comes to any practical application, it fails by applying what it says to “diligently fulfilling any assignment they are given.” Yes, it is good to care for the flock but that means obeying the elders, not actually caring for the flock.  How rare it is these days to hear of elders leaving the 99 behind to care for that one lost sheep.

Paragraph 5 provides us with a head scratching moment when it speaks of David cultivating a friendship with God, calling him David’s “close friend”, citing Psalm 25:14 which says nothing about God being David’s friend. What it does say is that God makes a covenant with those who are known to him. Since there is no covenant made with the other sheep "friends of God" based on JW theology, this text has no application whatsoever.  If JWs were taught that all Christians are children of God in a covenant relationship with their heavenly Father, then Psalm 25:14 would be most relevant.  However, instead they speak of David as God's friend while at the same time calling Jehovah our heavenly father.  Why not speak of being sons not friends?

Paragraph 6 states, “And by relying on his Friend, Jehovah, for strength, David struck down Goliath.”  Again they beat the drum of “friendship with Jehovah”.  This is an intentional effort to distract Christians from their true calling as children of God.   There is nothing in the account that mentions Jehovah as David’s friend.  I have many friends, but I have only one father.  They refer to Jehovah as the father of all Jehovah’s witnesses, but they never refer to Jehovah’s Witnesses as his children.  What a strange family they have created where there is one father over all Jehovah’s Witnesses, yet all 8 million of them are not his children.

Paragraph 11 speaks of the elders as ‘gifts’ which Jehovah gives the congregation.  They cite Ephesians 4:8 which is badly translated in the NWT as “gifts in men”.  A proper translation should be “gifts to men” which means that all the members of the congregation receive various gifts from God to be used for the benefit of all.

Paragraphs 12 and 13 make an excellent point. When Asa relied on Jehovah, all went well. When he relied on men, things went badly.  Sadly, few Witnesses will see the parallel.  They will rely on the men of the Governing Body for guidance even when their direction conflicts with that of the Bible.  Witnesses will obey the Governing Body before they obey Jehovah God.

Paragraph 16 tells young ones to listen to the counsel of elders.  But is It not the elders that frequently give the unscriptural advice to avoid higher learning, and who will punish a brother or sister for going to university to better themselves?

The final sentence states: “And above all, in everything you do, make your heavenly Father proud of you.—Read Proverbs 27:11.”

I find it amazing how Witnesses will read this and completely miss the irony.  Proverbs 27:11 reads: “Be wise, my son, and bring joy to my heart; then I can answer anyone who treats me with contempt.”  According to JW theology, it should read, “Be wise, my friend, and bring joy to my heart; then I can answer anyone who treats me with contempt.”

Only the anointed are called God’s sons.

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  • Comment by Solla Sollew on 2021-05-05 02:43:24

    I like to classify the society as a Judo-Christian religion as they rely heavily on the Old Testament to justify all the rules they have in place, literally hundreds if not thousands of laws have been laid down through the pages of the WT.

    Young men in the society are never asked to fulfill the obligation to look after orphans and widows but only to slave the organization. How many congregations do you know of that have a mowing and garden roster to look after the needs of the older ones? No you must help build wealth for the organization through construction works. The whole article reeks of hypocrisy.

  • Comment by James Mansoor on 2021-05-05 18:46:27

    Good morning Meleti & brothers & sisters,

    I like the way you analyse the points from the WT, and you made me think on the examples that they gave young ones to follow.

    Asa, died unfaithful, according to insight book.

    Jehoshaphat, insight book says : Upon returning to Jerusalem, Jehoshaphat was censured for unwisely allying himself with wicked Ahab, the visionary Jehu saying to him: “Is it to the wicked that help is to be given, and is it for those hating Jehovah that you should have love? And for this there is indignation against you from the person of Jehovah.”​—2Ch 19:2.

    David, the insight book says: End of reign. In the closing days of David’s life, the 70-year-old king, now confined to his bed, continued to reap calamity within his family. His fourth son, Adonijah, without the knowledge or consent of his father and, more seriously, without Jehovah’s approval, attempted to set himself up as king. When this news reached David, he moved quickly to have his son Solomon, Jehovah’s choice, officially installed as king and sit upon the throne. (1Ki 1:5-48; 1Ch 28:5; 29:20-25; 2Ch 1:8) David then counseled Solomon to walk in Jehovah’s ways, keep his statutes and commandments, act prudently in everything, and then he would prosper.​—1Ki 2:1-9.

    I wonder if the society knows, of any Christian Bible examples in the 27 books that we have, that the young ones could really imitate.

    Meleti, if this website ever published an article for young ones to be imitators of:
    Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, you would have been a laughing stock.

    Ecclesiastes 7:1 A good name is better than good oil, and the day of death is better than the day of birth.

    Proverbs 18:17 The first to state his case seems right, Until the other party comes and cross-examines him.

    This is what this website is all about….. Using our critical thinking.

  • Comment by James Mansoor on 2021-05-05 19:45:31

    I have a question according to the mid week book study that we had.

    It’s in paragraph 15 where it reads: What we can learn from the prophecy. We can have the utmost confidence in the King, Jesus Christ. Why? Because unlike worldly rulers who may be elected by humans or may usurp ruling authority, Jesus was chosen by Jehovah and “given . . . a kingdom” to which he has the legal right. (Dan. 7:13, 14) Surely the King whom Jehovah himself has appointed deserves our confidence!

    Question is, was Jesus enthronement in heaven a result of having this legal right on the earth, or was it his sacrifice that Jehovah installed him and gave him all authority in heaven and on earth?

    Many thanks

    • Reply by Ad_Lang on 2021-05-08 09:12:58

      The answer to your question is in the book of Hebrews. In fact, I suggest you should read Hebrews with this very question in mind, because it is the central theme of this letter from Paul: Jesus' is the designated king in the line of David and the Messaiah, that the Law and the Prophets pointed to.

      In particular, I'm thinking of Hebrews, starting with at 5:4-10 (all taken from the NWT):
      "A man does not take this honor of his own accord, but he receives it only when he is called by God, just as Aaron was. [5] So, too, the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but was glorified by the One who said to him: “You are my son; today I have become your father." [6] As he also says in another place, “You are a priest forever in the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek.” [7] During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. [8] Although he was a son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. [9] And after he had been made perfect, he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him, [10] because he has been designated by God a high priest in the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek."

      Another interesting quotation from Hebrews 9:11,12 related to a prophecy in Daniel:
      "However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have already taken place, he passed through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. [12] He entered into the holy place, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls, but with his own blood, once for all time, and obtained an everlasting deliverance for us."

      The prophecy in Daniel 7:13,14 it relates to:
      "I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. [14] And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed."

      Notice, in the prophecy, that something like a son of man was gaining access to the Ancient of Days, in heaven, where no man can come, before the One that no man can see and live. Paul explains that Jesus is the one Daniel spoke of, illustrated by the arrangements for the High Priest under the Mosaic Law.

      I hope that gives you a proper starting point.

  • Comment by PierrotSud on 2021-05-06 08:47:29

    This is the kind of Watchtower article I've become allergic to!
    I'm sorry if I say this but I hate it.
    When I was young, I used to give my all to preaching, I served in many services (sound system, territories, etc.). I was proud but in fact I was listening to elders but not Jehovah. I was afraid to receive the disapproval of the elders on what I did, on what I said.

    Paragraph 5 is a strangeness for me, because the organization hammers "Friend" twice in the sentence and applies the Psalms in a wrong way.

    Paragraph 6 hijacks a major event (the fight against Goliath) to repeat the word "Friend" when in the 3 verses used, there is no mention of it. This is a dishonest interpretation!

    Finally paragraphs 12, 13 and 16, confirm what I have experienced by listening blindly to the elders (who are also blind) I have not been able to do the studies I wanted and have lived until now being dissatisfied with myself and my life, being pushed to always do more to be approved by the organization.

    The awakening freed me from this incessant pressure.
    And thankfully I have always kept my faith in Jehovah and his son our Lord Jesus Christ.
    I hope that one day Jesus will do justice to all the young people we have been in this organization and those who are still in it.

    Thank you a lot.

    • Reply by Ad_Lang on 2021-05-08 09:53:40

      I am certain that justice will be done: things will be set straight. Remember how the apostle Paul was zealous, but misguided? He was taken out of that position, and given a key role in the sharing of the good news!

      It's a bit long, maybe, to explain here at this point, why it is that I have become convinced that there are actually 2 times of judgement. The first one is now (1 Pe 4:17), but a second one is to follow. In this first one, the wicked will be removed and true Christians will be selected to assist Jesus with setting matter straight among the nations. I'm hoping to finish a short article on it soon! At the end of the thousand year reign, it will be clear what the final inclination is of each and every individual, and whether they might be found acceptable or not.

      At this point, what we need to do is heed the urge in Revelation 18:4, to "get out of her" if you do not want to share with her in her sins. I don't find a definite answer here to the question if there is hope for those who remain within. It does not say there is no forgiveness available, but it warns that remaining may have consequences nonetheless!

      So do we need to fear for those we love, who remain within the Organisation? I think it is, in part, a matter of trusting that Jesus was speaking truth when he said: "Just as I head, I judge, and my judgment is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me" (Joh 5:30). While it is not for us to judge on this matter, there is something we can do to help.

      While we shouldn't fear for those within the same way as the Witnesses are told to fear for those outside, Jesus gave us instruction on how to make ourselves available and fulfil our role: "You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" (Mat. 5:14-16). Note how the result of people "seeing our works" is that they do what is called for in Revelation 14:7, where an angel flying in midheaven says in a loud voice: "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and the springs of water".

      In that way, we can perform the role of ambassadors, just as Paul illustrated: "we are ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us. As substitutes for Christ, we beg: 'Become reconciled to God'" (2 Cor 5:21). Note that it involves a choice and in the parable of the sheep and the goat, Jesus explains what the choice is about and how it will effect those people (Mat 25:31-46). Now if we are Christ's ambassadors, and prove ourselves his "brother, sister or mother", then those who treat us favourably even in the smallest way because of his name (i.e. authority), may well find themselves saved from destruction - Mark 3:35.

      So rather than being overly concerned about our loved ones, let's do our utmost to be the sort of persons we ought to be, so that we can be the "light of the world", as we see mankind plunge into chaos and despair.

  • Comment by yobec on 2021-05-04 21:48:26

    This anointing thing kinda disturbs me a little.
    I had a definite spiritual experience back in 1996 that only left me ( due to my JW upbringing ) to interpret it as having been anointed.
    The problem with that is I thought Jehovah was making a big mistake because I had never even been as much as a pioneer. Let alone a CO or missionary .
    It was years later during my awakening , that I realized that I had simply been adopted as a son.
    This was especially important at that time as I was convinced that due to my past, I had sinned against the holy spirit and was being reserved for execution at Harmaguedon
    I was in a state of deep depression
    I had resolved to commit suicide so that I would not stand in the way of interfering with my wife and sons spiritual improvements and acceptance by Jehovah.
    I bowed my head and prayed with " moanings unneterred" and then it happened.
    I don't think I will ever be able to express in words what actually happenned. But like I mentionned earlier, due to my involvement with Watchtower teachings, I could only interpret it as having been anointed
    Now many years later, I understand that my Creator together with his Son were simply comforting me with their approval as a Son
    I am sure that many others have also been approved as such and may not need to have such a dramatic experience to prove it. It's just that for me, such an experience was necessary due to my imminent suicidal thoughts.
    Now I am sure that I probably have given the GB all the needed proof that my experience was not real but only stems from emotional turmoil

    • Reply by Jude on 2021-05-14 23:37:16

    • Reply by Jude on 2021-05-07 00:43:40

      If I may, could you please clarify what are the "Watchtower teachings" you are referring to here?

      • Reply by yobec on 2021-05-07 13:02:46

        Sure. But I might be opening up Pandora's LOL. All the years that I have been a witness which was approximately 40, I was taught that it is not right for an anointed person to talk about his hope. The Watchtower has written that genuine anointed Christians do not do so . To do otherwise, especially if it is done often is to not show a spirit of humility and a drawing attention to one's self. Added to that, you never read or listen to in the Watchtower or on the platforms about the details of such experiences. We actually hear more about the details of demonic experiences. I would say something is wrong with that. Fortunately I was able to spend time with numerous others who have had similar experiences. We shared our experiences and found that we had a lot of similarities. In the first century, when Christians met, they did not meet with printed materials with their hands up in the air to answer what there are told to answer. Quite often they would relate what has happened to them and a way of a spiritual experience. This is not permitted today. Makes you wonder why. I can just imagine what stories would be shared if all the 10000 Plus anointed ones that are reporting every year where to gather in one area and share their experiences.

        • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-05-18 18:04:42

          I had never thought of this before. Thanks for bringing it up. There is one God, one Lord, one hope. Not to hopes, one hope. A word search on the word hope in the Christian Scriptures indicates that it was very much a topic of discussion both inside and outside of the congregation, both within the family and in the preaching. So, since we are told to make a defence of the hope we have should anyone ask it, who would be happy if we were to refrain from doing so out of a misguided understanding that to do so would indicate a lack of humility? Just another example of how the organization from Rutherford on down has been a tool of the devil to fight against the formation of the seed, the devil's enemy.

          • Reply by yobec on 2021-05-20 21:00:30

            Shortly after baptism, folks were captivated by my former occult and spiritistic practices. So much so that I was asked to relate the details of such experiences at 2 circuit assemblies and at the Divine Name District assembly held in Montreal in 1971.
            Many became fascinated by what I had said and would seek me out to know more.
            However, after my experience of 1996 which made me aware that I had been adopted as one of God's sons, I experienced the complete opposite. One elder , I was told was "livid" that I actually partook of the emblems at the memorial. They had been trying for a while to get another "younger brother" to quit partaking and instead of succeding, they were now 2.
            Two years later ,there were 3.
            Eventually it became 5 between the 3 congregations that was sharing the hall. Sometimes , we would find ourselves together and guess what we liked to talk about ? Our experiences and our hope. We felt so free to be able to do so without beeing judged negatively. We would have to be carefull though, depending on who walked in on us as we were not viewed by many as the "darlings" of the congregation.

            • Reply by Jude on 2021-05-21 01:22:47

              Our experiences and our hope.
              The experience of the call is powerful and leaves no doubt it came from an outside source. Like Moses, I wish all received it. You could say that every christian shares a hope of life everlasting. But not every christian receives the call. The form that that lasting life takes is not the same for all. It is an invitation to an office of service which must be reached out for in endurance and faith, along with much difficulties. That service in the administration to come includes duties. Duties which non-called ones take upon themselves. That is the abomination standing in the holy place.
              There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. - Eph 4:4-6

              As a prisoner in the Lord, then, I urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling you have received: with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, and with diligence to preserve the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. - Eph 4:1-3

              And it was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for works of ministry and to build up the body of Christ, until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature to the full measure of the stature of Christ. - Eph 4:11-13

              Then we will no longer be infants, tossed about by the waves and carried around by every wind of teaching and by the clever cunning of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Christ himself, who is the head. From him the whole body, fitted and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love through the work of each individual part. - Eph 4:14-16

              Agape in Christ.

              • Reply by yobec on 2021-05-21 18:49:50

                Have you experienced the spirit of adoption ?
                From reading some of your statements, I suspect that you have.
                Just curious, that's all.

                • Reply by Jude on 2021-05-21 19:10:23

                  I experienced the invitation, yes. Around 1985-ish. Didn't understand that it meant something more than the experience itself until something roughly more than a year, less than a year and a half ago. Such a power can never be forgotten. There is no room for second guessing. The Father knew in advance how much reading of the scriptures I would do in my life. And led me to those articles which my spirit recognizes as genuine. In my current state my health is precarious, among other things. I only mention it because staring death in the face 24/7, even though it drags on, is exhausting and a real possibility of the physical self going silent at any point. I guess I understand in a way, maybe a little differently but how Paul felt when he said to die is gain but on the other hand the work we do in the earth ...

                  Agape in Christ.

        • Reply by Jude on 2021-05-07 15:49:15

          Added to that, you never read or listen to in the Watchtower or on the platforms about the details of such experiences ....This is not permitted today. Makes you wonder why. I can just imagine what stories would be shared if all the 10000 Plus anointed ones that are reporting every year where to gather in one area and share their experiences.

          What you say above about Watchtower is true. This is why I asked how it could be that you understood the meaning of your experience. Especially since you were a witness for approximately 40 years. Maybe I misunderstood.

          I had a definite spiritual experience back in 1996 that only left me ( due to my JW upbringing ) to interpret it as having been anointed.

          I am aware that Watchtower is full of darkness. This is why I find it somewhat surprising that "their teachings" led you to a correct understanding if you genuinely experienced Romans 8:16, Romans 5:5, 2 Cor 1:22, & Matthew 22:14 among others.

          "For many are called (or invited), but few chosen."

          Why are only a few chosen out of the many Called? The anointed are described in many different ways. Wheat, trees, earth, stars, light, Bride, New Jerusalem, Zion, City built without hands to name a few.

          But can a star fall? Burning as a torch or lamp? Can the lamplight be extinguished, flicker out? Like the 5 foolish virgins who are then barred entry when the Bridegroom returns?

          "I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown."

          Hold on to what you have. Keep the light aflame. Who are the kings of the earth battling at Armageddon at Revelation 16:14 & 16? Note they are kings, not nations.

          Can stars be dragged down by the dragon? Can a star be given a key to the abyss by an angel known as a Destroyer?

          "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness." - 2 Corinthians 11: 14, 15

          The Watchtower governing body behave as if their anointing (if genuine) is a done deal and the crowns are already on their heads. And they appear to be doing very little serving for others. If at all.

          "Already you have all you want! Already you have become rich! You have begun to reign -- and that without us! How I wish that you really had begun to reign so that we also might reign with you!" - 1 Corinthians 4:8

          A Called One is not automatically sealed. Those who know their God and refuse the flattery which induces violating their covenant with Christ (or repent) and endure to the end receive their crown. Those who do not, lose their crowns.

          "Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining towards what is ahead, I press on towards the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus." - Philippians 3:13, 14

          "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award me on that day -- and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing" - 2 Timothy 4: 7, 8

          You are correct that Watchtower, under the dominion of the wicked one, discourages the anointed members of the body of Christ from gathering together.

          He tried to cut it off in 1934,35 ... and now is trying to bury it under a flood of false anointed.

          How can there be a battle of kings in a war, and yet the world takes no note of it just like in the days of Noah?

          The battle of Armageddon is against the demonic lying expressions of the dragon and his human ministers "of righteousness"

          "Ministers" who call their cruel treatments a "loving provision". "Ministers" who say "Stick with what we have approved, you'll be safe" (Mr. Morris)

          "Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal man, who cannot save" - Psalm 146:3

          Is it obvious to any happenstance casual observer that Truth is winning against the Liar and his servants?

          "As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgement in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom." - Daniel 7: 21, 22

          You mention the 10,000 yearly "anointed" cropping up now, but ...

          "The remaining trees of its forests will be so few that a child could count them" - Isaiah 10:19

          We hope for this soon, "What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of 'Grace, grace to it!'" - Zechariah 4:7

          Carefully train your spirit to recognize other genuine anointed. There is food in relation to understanding who the players are in Revelation.

          Watch the Watchtower. And tell all to "get out of her, my people"

          • Reply by yobec on 2021-05-07 18:01:31

            "What you say above about Watchtower is true. This is why I asked how it could be that you understood the meaning of your experience. Especially since you were a witness for approximately 40 years. Maybe I misunderstood."
            Because I had no point of reference. The teaching was and still is that,in our modern times, Jehovah and his Son do not cause anyone to have supernatural experiences. Those were limited to only the 1st century christians.
            So,in accepting this teaching, I could only interpret what I had experienced, as an anointing in the strict sense of Watchtower teachings
            Today however, I would not necessarily use that term.But that's an entirely new topic.

            • Reply by Jude on 2021-05-09 23:52:04

              Watchtower teachings is all I knew. You're speaking to a former witness, so I am well aware of their teachings. Referring to your assumption that "a mistake" was made by Christ and The Father, as if there was a mix up in the spiritual mail, because you were not a pioneer, missionary or CO. Those titles are smoke and mirrors from a corporate business machine, which rewards and feeds the parasites at the top. They receive their reward in full. They gain the whole world but lose their life.

              Think about these things: The events surrounding Christs' birth. A star draws, guides and leads people to Christ as a helpless babe in an attempt to bring about murder. And rampant murder did happen. Every child in the area 2 years and younger were killed. Herod didn't care that the savior of the world was born. He was living it up as a sort of king.

              "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has demanded to sift all of you as wheat" - Luke 22:31

              The dragon stands before the woman in Revelation, desiring to devour her child. Kings. The remnant. The capstone.

              A fallen star named Wormwood is given a key. And dispenses poison. (They sure love to talk about poison in their talks, don't they?). And releases the locusts. (Notice their recent "new light" on that?)

              The Beast is used to sniff out and find Called Ones, and snuff them out. First through covenant breaking via idolatry to its own image. Then through whatever corruption can grow and be exploited within its environment. Understand?

              For all of its Doomsday fear mongering, it is actually Watchtower itself that has been fighting against the arrival of Gods kingdom all this time. As a tool of Satan. "If you think you have light in you, but it is in fact darkness, then O' how deep that darkness is!" (not verbatim but Matt 6:23).

              Truly, the blind leading the blind. Their blindness is not due to ignorance. It is due to the darkness in their hearts. This is what 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 is speaking of.

              Ever hear the saying, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled is convincing the world he doesn't exist."? I would venture to say no, the greatest trick he did was to convince people they were serving God, while they were serving him and doing his bidding.

              Be careful even among those outside of Watchtower. To whom do we go to? Christ. And The Father. Fix your eyes on him. If things continue on and another Memorial approaches, a suggestion is to begin meditating on discerning the Body of Christ.

              "For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves" - 1 Cor 11:29

              Some may insist that that means you must gather with them, and I don't disagree, but for what its worth that hasn't happened with me yet, although my captivity and challenges and daily struggle are pretty severe. So I think this helps qualify me to say that if your experience was genuine, you do not need validation from anyone else. No one. Not even other anointed with domineering traits. Christ and The Father see or saw something and extended an invitation. Don't allow anyone to bully you, but don't forget that we are all groaning and staggering in pain. Come Lord Jesus. Amen.

        • Reply by a watcher on 2021-05-07 15:52:42

          All the awkwardness about the heavenly hope bothers me too. The earthly hope is constantly talked about. Is the heavenly hope something to be ashamed of? How would the other sheep feel if their earthly hope was doubted and they were told not to talk about it? The hypocrisy is astounding.

  • Comment by Zacheus on 2021-05-04 21:13:22

    My first wife pushed me brieflyto reach out. Hell! I suffered depression all of my life and I was working hard at a manual job with early starts. There is no way I would have /could have given any more of myself in that circumstance and having read the horror stories of the CARC and others my mental health would have collapsed completely.

  • Comment by katrina on 2021-05-13 07:20:22

    I have noticed and a few I know have commented that the age of elders and MS are becoming younger and younger, most born in with no practical experiences in life only fed on WT and the rules of the GB and Bethel lawyers. I think covid has woken many up as they are on the net more due to more internet, and witnessing by email and phone. Everything revolves around the organization and GB. For years JW have been dumbed down the food is immature because its not focused on Christ, how anyone can mature when its all the same and rule based, they can give some great advice based on scripture then spoil it by adding organization man rules.

  • Comment by Deano on 2021-05-13 08:58:48

    Hello all.

    This is one of the 3 yearly Wt.'s that bring to the fore the call to arms for the young men to serve Jehovah or GB/Organization. Very few, what I would deem normal young men, those who have jobs, love their family and friends, don't spend every waking moment trying to pretend to pioneer, or judge other brothers, they play football, sports, have a good healthy routine, are not overweight, have a good education, are able to talk to other people regardless whether they are a JW or not, you know...normal folks. Are not interested in reaching out for this, they will happily help elderly ones, others in need, but don't need an uneducated elder to tell them how to do this, they are not interested in being seen to do this.

    Most MS now appointed, like the sister said, have been brought up in it, home schooled, not able to string two words together, or even it seems to spell their name correctly or neatly. I have seen Elders and MS step down rather than bow to the GB, its not worth it they would say, its not my career , some have left some, just stay away from it.

    If the scripture in Eph 4:8 is to be interpreted as they are gifts in men, then its a poor show from Jehovah to be using most of them.

    The way that elders judge in the special meetings for brothers, not sisters they are not worth the effort, they are not in Jehovah's thought, in there mind. Discussing who to use for mics...well his shoes were dirty a few months ago....his hair was scruffy a month ago....I heard someone say that he said an unkind thing to another person three miles away...he isn't wearing a suit, just trousers and a get the point.

    Jehovah sees this and will call to account this judgemental behaviour on there part.

    • Reply by a watcher on 2021-05-13 14:35:44

      I'm so glad I'm a Sister and don't have to deal with as much peer pressure as the Brothers do.

  • Comment by Mitch F Jensen on 2021-05-23 10:03:26

    New here, love Eric and the rest of the honest thinkers! Five years ago I was at a C/A in a Kingdom Hall Four-Plex when The CO asked “How many of you brothers want to reach out and be used as elders”? Only two raised their hands out of one thousand witnesses!

    The two that raised had been removed as elders unofficially for sexually abusing a four and eight year old child. One of the elders whispered in my ear “Nobody on the BOE wants this position anymore because the Watchtower shifted all the liabilities to us while taking our assets”! CO was furious so he asked the married sisters the same question. He counted twenty wives and got flustered by the apathy.

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