The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses Makes a Pathetic Attempt to Deal with Bad Media Reports

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[Eric Wilson] In the Saturday afternoon session of the 2021 “Powerful by Faith!” annual convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses, Governing Body member, David Splane, delivered a talk which is so outrageous that it fairly screams for a commentary.  This talk demonstrates just how worried the Governing Body is about the exposure its practices have been getting on the world stage.  They believed their own predictions about how close the end was, but it didn’t come and now they have to face the music. Decades of practices that have caused unbelievable harm to people can no longer be covered up.  Who could have foreseen the impact of social media, or that every man, woman and child on the planet could summon up the news in an instant on their mobile phone?  What was hidden in darkness for so long is now seeing the light of day.

The convention discourse we are about to analyze is more about damage control than anything else. More damning revelations are on the way, and it appears that the Governing Body is trying to blind the minds of the rank and file so that they will not believe the truth when it is presented to them.

Before we get underway, I’d like to clear up a misrepresentation that the organization makes whenever they bandy about the word “apostate”. In this talk, for instance, David Splane of the Governing Body uses this word to smear the name of anyone who opposes them.  But for many of these so-called opposers, there is another word—a more accurate word—which he never uses: “heretic”.

One dictionary gives us these definitions:

Apostate: “person who forsakes his religion, cause, party, etc.”

Heretic: “a professed believer who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church.”

So, if a Christian abandons Christianity altogether, you could rightly call him an apostate, but that is not the case for someone who remains a Christian, but abandons their church or religious denomination.  A person who leaves the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses but continues to practice the faith of Christianity is not an apostate.  He or she is a heretic.

The reason the organization doesn’t refer to ex JWs who retain their faith in Jesus as heretics is that the word has positive connotations.  Who have the churches of Christendom persecuted, even burned at the stake, for disagreeing with their teachings?  Not apostates, but heretics.  Heretics are brave people who endure shame and slander for the sake of their faith.  The organization cannot accept the role of persecutor. They need to play the role of the persecuted. So, they slander their heretics with the smear label of apostates.

But what if these JW heretics are fulfilling a role similar to the prophets of old?  Consider these words of Jeremiah:

But they did not listen or incline their ear; instead, they walked in their own schemes, stubbornly following their wicked heart, and they went backward, not forward, from the day your forefathers came out of the land of Egypt until this day. So I kept sending all my servants the prophets to you, sending them each day, again and again. But they refused to listen to me, and they did not incline their ear. Instead, they were stubborn, and they acted worse than their forefathers! “You will speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to you; you will call to them, but they will not answer you. And you will say to them, ‘This is the nation that did not obey the voice of Jehovah their God and refused to accept discipline. (Jeremiah 7:24-28)

This convention is called “Powerful by Faith!”, but as we listen to David Splane, we will see that the faith he is exhorting Witnesses to keep is not faith in Jesus, not even faith in Jehovah, but faith in the JW.org, faith in the Organization.

[David Splane] Put up a hard fight for the faith.  Now those are the words of Jude, the half-brother of Jesus and it is important to consider them and their context. Let's do that.  Please turn to Jude verse 3 and then leave your Bibles open because we're going to consider another verse in Jude. This will help us to get the point that Jude was making. Jude verse 3. He says, “Beloved ones, even though I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to urge you to put up a hard fight for the faith.

[Eric Wilson] David Splane of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses makes an excellent point.  We have to watch out for false brothers who slip in and try to subvert our faith. I’m in complete agreement with him.  I’m sure you are as well.  But here’s where we have to be careful. He hasn’t defined what he means by faith. Is he talking about faith in Jehovah God?  Is he talking about faith in Jesus Christ? Or is he talking about faith in the Organization and its teachings?

Romans 12:1 tells us to present ourselves to God’s service with our power of reason. So, let us reason on everything David is about to tell us.

[David Splane] Jude is not warning his brothers about high priest Ananias or about persecution, he has something else in mind, a different type of attack and this is a sneaky one. Let's look at verse four, and we’ll see why he wrote his letter. What is the very first words? “My reason is…” So, ‘this is what I have in mind when I'm writing you, brothers.’ “My reason is that certain men have slipped in among you who were long ago appointed to this judgment by the Scriptures…” So, Jude is talking about false brothers who were presenting a real danger to the congregations; in some ways, a greater danger than outright persecution.  And did you notice what Jude had to say about those false brothers? They had slipped in. They were sneaky. That was true back then and it’s true today as we will see, and brothers, this is a very serious matter that we’re considering today. Think of this: Was the Christian congregation brought down by persecution in the second and third centuries? It wasn't. It was brought down by  false brothers, apostate teachings.

[Eric Wilson] Do you see the flaw in his logic?  Who were the false brothers in the third and fourth century who brought down the Christian congregation?  They were not apostates who had been thrown out of the congregation? They were the leaders of the church.  You don’t slip in by becoming an apostate who abandons Christianity and gets disfellowshipped and shunned. You slip in by becoming a zealous supporter of the congregation.  Then you rise to a position of power.  Then you use your power and influence to introduce false doctrines.

[David Splane] And so, the devil can use an outright attack. He can use persecution to try to batter the structure of the Christian congregation, but sometimes he uses rot from within.

[Eric Wilson] “Rot from within”.  Again, the apostates are outside the organization.  If we are dealing with rot from within, who are responsible for that rot?

[David Splane] So, in this talk we’re not going to discuss persecution. We’re going to discuss two of the subtle means Satan uses to weaken our faith: apostasy and negative reports about Jehovah's Witnesses in the media.

[Eric Wilson] This is the logical fallacy of the “loaded label”.  Apostasy is bad. Poison is bad.  Let us label anyone who disagrees with us as poisonous apostates.  It doesn’t matter if their arguments are true and just.  We won’t consider them, because we have already passed judgment on them as poisonous apostates.  By definition, anyone who disagrees with anything that Governing Body teaches is a poisonous apostate.

But what if the apostates are the Governing Body? What if the “rot from within” he referred to already, has happened?  What if Jehovah’s Witnesses have already been poisoned by false teachings?  If that turns out to be the case, Splane’s worry would be the spiritual antidote to that poison.  That would be the truth.  What if he doesn’t want the truth to get out.

[David Splane] We receive letters at times from brothers and sisters who are troubled by something they saw on a webpage: an accusation, a rumor about the society or about the organization. And the problem is they had no idea that apostates were behind it.

[Eric Wilson] Did you notice that he didn’t tell us what these brothers are writing in about?  That doesn’t matter, you see, because if an apostate is behind it, then it must be rejected out of hand.  But how do we know if an apostate was behind it. Well, that’s simple. Did the message make the organization look bad?  Was it critical of some policy or action of the organization?  If yes, then it had to be from an apostate and should be rejected.  This is known as an Ad Hominem fallacy.  It means an attack on the person.  If you cannot defeat an argument or answer an accusation with the truth, then you resort to slander and name calling to deflect attention away from the real issue.

Perhaps those writing in were asking why the organization became affiliated with the image of the Wild Beast of Revelation, the United Nations for a period of 10 years?   Or perhaps they wrote in to ask why the organization is willing to pay millions in dedicated funds to cover contempt of court costs rather than surrender their database of known and suspected child abusers? Splane would rather dismiss all such questions because they obviously come from apostates and we know that apostasy is poison, and poison kills, so end of discussion.

[David Splane] It’s tricky because the apostates don't advertise: “You are now on an apostate webpage.” They often pose aa sincere witnesses who just have questions or concerns; and some who aren't really apostates can cause just as much trouble as the apostates do, by their negative talk and criticism.

[Eric Wilson] Actually, that is a lie.  I’ve been to many web sites that the organization would consider apostate and they leave no doubt about their agenda. They are not being sneaky because they don’t need to be sneaky. The facts speak for themselves.  When Jehovah’s Witnesses go door-to-door with a magazine that speaks negatively of other religions, highlighting the child abuse scandals that have plagued other organized religions, are they not acting as the apostates they now find fault with?

Of course, they would argue that that is different. The Catholic Church is part of false religion, but Witnesses have the only true religion. Do they? That is kind of the point, isn’t it?

There are very serious issues facing the organization right now.  The millions being paid to victims whose cases of child sexual abuse were mishandled or covered up. The hypocrisy of the UN affiliation.  The refusal to obey Romans 13:1-7 and cooperate with the “superior authorities” by handing over the names of pedophiles.  The money grab going on with the sale of thousands of kingdom halls without the authorization of the local congregation. And then there are the false teachings of 1914, the overlapping generation, and the other sheep that pervert the message of the good news.

However, Splane will not talk about these things.  In fact, throughout the course of this talk, the words “child abuse” never even pass his lips.  This is a huge public relations and financial catastrophe that threatens the very existence of the organization, yet his listeners would never know a thing about it were they to confine themselves to the talks and publications issuing forth from the Watchtower corporation.

Next, David Splane creates a strawman argument to support his call for witnesses to turn a deaf ear to any negative talk.

[David Splane] Brothers, we need to be on the alert. This is serious. Suppose that out of curiosity, you get into a discussion forum with individuals who claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses – maybe they are and may be aren’t, you don’t know; you’ve never met them – and someone starts asking questions. What did you think of last month's broadcast, did you really find it encouraging? Or do you think the brothers who write Watchtower articles are living in the real world? I wonder if they realize just how hard it is out here.

[Eric Wilson] He is trivializing the message of those he calls apostates.  It is easy to dismiss so-called opposers by claiming all they do is tear down with silly derogatory comments, but that isn’t the real issue.  He wants you to think it is, though, because when faced with the really serious issues confronting the organization, he has no defense.  If he had, he would make a defense and put these things to rest.

Now with what we are going to hear next, I would ask you to do a little thought experiment.  Listen to what he says, but imagine he is a Catholic preach arguing on behalf of the Catholic Church.

[David Splane] Now, you don't know whether these individuals are apostates or just brothers and sisters who are in serious spiritual trouble. But does it matter? How does it make you feel when you leave the forum? Do you feel upbuilt, determined to expand your ministry, more convinced than ever that Jehovah has an organization that you love and that you're delighted to be a part of. You feel honoured to be a part of that organization.

[Eric Wilson] It doesn’t work if you view this as a priest talking on behalf of the Catholic church because they are false religion while witnesses are true. Again, that premise overrides everything.  I get Catholics writing in to me all the time expressing how proud they are to be members of “the church that Jesus founded”.  They sound no different than Splane does here.  But where in the Bible are we told to love an organization and to be proud of an organization. Why the word organization is not even used in the Bible. We are told to love the brothers and sisters, but we are never told to love an organization. As for pride, our pride is in Jesus Christ, our boasting is in Jehovah.  (1 Corinthians 1:29)

Boasting because we belong to an organization.  Come on.

Next, David Splane misapplies Romans 16:17.

[David Splane] We need to follow the advice recorded at Romans chapter 16, and verse 17. Now think of this imaginary forum that we just described in the light of Romans chapter 16 and verse 17 and remember there is all kinds of negative talk flying around in this forum. You don't know who's behind it and here is what it says in Romans 16 verse 17. “Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned and avoid them.” Now think about that forum. Does it create divisions? Yes! Is it a cause for stumbling? Could be. Is it contrary to what we have learned? Do we even have to answer that question?

[Eric Wilson] Yeah, David, you do have to answer that question. That question is the key to everything.  Jesus said that he came to cause division.

. . .Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division. . . (Matthew 10:34, 35, New World Translation)


Yet Paul condemns those causing division.  Was Paul condemning Jesus?  No, because Jesus caused division by teaching the truth. Those Paul condemns are teaching falsehood.  What is the standard of truth?  David just read it in Romans: “the teaching that you have learned”.  He is so smug about that, so cocksure that the teachings of the Watchtower are the teachings of the Christ, but no publication of men can make that claim, not the Catholic catechism, not the evangelical Christianity Today, not the Watchtower and Awake! magazines.  Paul is talking about the teachings of Christ handed down by the apostles.  That is the crux of the matter. If Splane wants to label someone an apostate based on Romans, then an apostate is one who has deviated from the teachings of Christ. Using that criteria, I would suggest that David Splane with his overlapping generation and no-1900-year slave is the apostate.  I mean since we are throwing labels around.

Splane now goes back to the Apostasy is poison analogy.

[David Splane] Now another person might say: “I can see where those warnings about apostates applied to so-and-so; he is weak, but don't worry about me I'm spiritually strong, I can handle it. That's like a weightlifter thinking that he can drink of vile of poison and it won't hurt him because he is so big and strong. We are not so strong, so spiritual, so intelligent, that we can’t be affected by the poison of apostate ideas.

[Eric Wilson] David is about to show us, albeit unwittingly, that his apostasy equals poison analogy is not supported in Scripture. He’s about to do that by using the account about Job. But before he does, he again asks us to give up our power of reason and just go with what we are told.

[David Splane] Now, when might we feel pressured to read something that the apostates have written? Consider this scenario: The unbelieving husband of your Bible student sends his wife a link to an apostate webpage and says, “here you better look at this and see what you are getting into.” Well, your student is concerned. She wants you to take a look and tell you what you think. Well, that is not an option. Paul says, “avoid them.” That doesn’t mean reading apostate literature or searching in social media to see what they are saying about us. So, what do you say to your student? You might say something like this: “I can imagine this is very upsetting for you, and you certainly need to know what you are getting into. I have a suggestion. We have nothing to hide. When you are at the meetings, listen carefully to what the brothers are saying. Watch how we interact with one another. Take note of how the organization is financed. Get to know the elders, their wives. Introduce yourself to the circuit overseer and his wife when they come. Visit the world headquarters or the branch. I’ll come with you. I’ll help you, I want you to get really acquainted with the organization and, if you do, I’m sure you’ll soon realize that what the people are saying about us, isn’t true.”

[Eric Wilson] He says, “We don’t have anything to hide.” Well, if they don’t have anything to hide, why are they telling people not to investigate, not to hear all sides of the question? Why are we supposed to listen only to one side, David, your side, and ignore the rest? The reality is that when one of Jehovah’s Witnesses asks about doctrinal matters that conflict with Scripture, or asks why the Watchtower became an UN NGO affiliate, or why the Governing Body would rather pay millions in contempt of court fines rather than turn over their list of pedophiles, they end up in the back room of the kingdom hall for a good dressing down.

Now we get to the part of Splane’s talk where he undermines his whole argument that apostasy is poison…and again, remember that I’m using the term apostasy because he uses it, but, in reality, it is heretical thinking he really fears.

[David Splane] Just a few drops of poison in a drink are enough to cause serious harm. And apostates often mix a few truths with lies. Remember Eliphaz? One of Job’s false comforters? Some of what he said was true. Let’s turn to chapter 5 and verse 13. (I’ll give you a moment). See if what I read sounds familiar. “He catches the wise in their own cunning, so that the plans of the shrewd are thwarted. He catches the wise in their own cunning. Does that sound familiar? Why Yes! The apostle Paul said the very the same thing at 1 Corinthians 3:19. In fact, in the marginal reference that we see in the little “a” in the middle there is 1 Corinthians 3:19. Paul may even have been quoting Eliphaz. so that was the truth, but how does Jehovah feel about Eliphaz's argument over all? Let’s turn to Job 42:7 and see how Jehovah felt about it. Job 42 and verse 7. “After Jehovah had spoken these words to Job Jehovah said to Eliphaz the Temanite, ‘my anger burns against you and your two companions for you have not spoken the truth about me as my servant Job has.’” A few grains of truth were mixed in with falsehoods. At least some of what Eliphaz said was inspired by the demons. How do we know that? He admitted it. Notice Job 4 verses 15 through 17. (I’ll give you a moment, this is interesting). Job 4:15 to 17.  Eliphaz says, “A spirit passed over my face, the hair of my flesh bristled. It then stood still, but I did not recognize its appearance.” Let's stop there for a second. I did not recognize its appearance. So, he didn't know whom he was talking to --just like someone in a discussion forum may not know who he is talking to. Let’s continue. He says, “A form was in front of my eyes. There was a calm and then I heard a voice. ‘Can a mortal man be more righteous than God? Can a man be cleaner than his own maker?’”

Does it surprise you that a demon will get involved in the debate between Job and the false comforters? It shouldn't. This was no small debate. It was a big issue. Satan had challenged Jehovah in the presence of all the angels that no man would keep his integrity under test. That demon was using Eliphaz to demoralize Job and weaken his faith. This was something that Job had to fight for. Job fought back.

[Eric Wilson] So even a few drops of poison is deadly.  Well, that’s true, but what does it have to do with apostasy?

Splane make reference to Job’s three false comforters, specifically to Eliphaz. He is equating their speech to that of apostates.  He says that through Eliphaz, even the words of demons were being transferred to Job’s ear. These three comforters spoke to Job for days, and Job listened.  This was more than a few drops of poison, David. This was bucket loads of the stuff.  Why wasn’t Job spiritually killed? Because Job had oodles of the thing David Splane fears—he had the truth on his side. Truth is light and lies are darkness.  You can shine the light, but you cannot shine the darkness.  Light always vanquishes the darkness.

It is at the halfway point that we get to the real meat of the talk, and I admit that I’ve had to fight to retain my composure, because many of the things David Splane says are just so outrageous that it makes you want to scream.

[David Splane] Now, let's consider the second challenge we face- negative reports about Jehovah's Witnesses in the media.

[Eric Wilson] Notice he doesn’t say untrue reports.  A report can be completely true while still being negative.  Having watched a number of these negative reports, there is nothing to indicate they are untrue, and in fact, if they were untrue, I’m sure the Society would be quick to sue the broadcaster or TV Station. After all, they sued a Spanish group just recently for claiming to be victims of Watchtower abuses.

[David Splane] Now here’s a good principle to follow: Proverbs 14 and verse 15. (I’ll give you moment Proverbs chapter 14 and verse 15). It says, “The naïve person believes every word, but the shrewd one ponders each step.” Some people believe everything they read in the newspaper or see on TV. Do you? Should you?

[Eric Wilson] No, you should not.  But then again, should you believe everything you hear David Splane say, or everything written in the Watchtower? David quotes Proverbs 14:15 but doesn’t apply it to himself nor to the organization.  Witnesses are told to not believe every word when it comes from a worldly source, but to ponder and investigate, yet that rule does not apply when they are listening to a talk on the convention platform or reading an article in the Watchtower.  In those cases, they are supposed to believe every word and woe betide anyone who “ponders each step”.  Ask too many questions, and it’s the back room for you.

[David Splane] Consider this: Now you are working from door-to-door and you meet a householder who says, “You Jehovah's Witnesses are terrible people. You let your children die. You don't accept medical treatment.” You ask the householder, “do you know any

of Jehovah's Witnesses personally? “No.” Then where did you get the idea that we let our children die and don't accept medical treatment? The householder says, “I have it on good authority. I read it in the newspaper.”

Well, if it’s in the newspaper, it must be true, right? Not necessarily! Remember this: Reporters have a deadline to meet and a reporter may not have the time or the inclination to check the facts; or the reporter may have written a balanced article. But then the editor changes it. Maybe the editor doesn't like Jehovah's Witnesses, or he’s been misinformed about us. Now, it is bad enough if the people in the world believe everything they read in the newspaper, but brothers let's not be among them. Let's not be naïve. Let’s consider things carefully.

[Eric Wilson] This is a strange example, because what the household is saying is true. When it comes to blood transfusions, even in situations where the doctor feels the child’s life is in jeopardy, Witnesses will not allow their children to be transfused with blood.  So, if he is trying to show that the newspapers are biased or that people get the wrong impression, he sure has used a bad example.

It’s true that a reporter may not check the facts, though to be fair, they are trained to do that so that the newspaper is not placed in a position where they can be sued.  In addition, how often have we heard a news story about child sexual abuse where the reporter tells us that they tried to contact Jehovah’s Witnesses at headquarters, but no one was willing to take the call or be interviewed.  How are they to check the facts if Jehovah’s Witnesses won’t talk to them?

[David Splane] Similarly, sometimes there is a TV program about Jehovah's Witnesses. Now, a few of these programs are balanced and fair. Many, or I dare say most are not, and when they’re not you’ll often find that the producers started out with a negative view of Jehovah's Witnesses and then they look for information to support their prejudice. So, whom did they turn to? Apostates and the clergy, from them. They got suggestions for people to interview--and you know what those people would say. At the very last minute they may ask the brothers for comment just to give an appearance of fairness, but the program wasn't designed to be fair, it was designed to be unfair. It was slanted against Jehovah's Witnesses.

[Eric Wilson] Now he is going after television reports.  These are mostly biased he says. Their intentions are to make Jehovah’s Witnesses look bad.  They have a prejudice and look for those who will support this.  They turn to apostates and the clergy, he claims.  These apostates point them to people to interview.  David then says in a mocking tone, “And we know what those people would say.”

Really?  We know what they would say?  What would those people say, David?  What is so funny that you have to tell us with such a derisive tone in your voice?  Would these perhaps be people who were victims of child sexual abuse?  People who went to the elders and instead of getting justice, were made to suffer even more?  David, would these perhaps be young women, even teenagers who were so mistreated that they felt they had no recourse, but to leave the congregation altogether?  Were these child abuse victims who were cut off from family and friends, shunned by all, not because they sinned, but simply because they left and in doing so implicitly condemned the organization?  It is because they made the congregation look bad, isn’t it, David?

Then Splane says, “At the very last minute they may ask the brothers for comment just to give the appearance of fairness.”

OMG, David, are you kidding me? I’ve watched these programs and there is one consistent element in all of them.  The reporters will say that they tried to contact the headquarters, but the witnesses were not willing to speak with them.  If I were to call the Canada Bethel right now and say that I’m doing a video on child sexual abuse among Jehovah’s Witnesses in Canada and would like to get some comment from the branch office, do you think they would talk with me on the record, in front of a camera?  To parrot your own words, David.  “We know what they would say.”

Come on, you need to stop the lies and just be honest for once.  The last thing any member of the Governing Body or any high-level branch official wants to do is to be forced to answer questions about Organization policies and conduct in a public forum.  David, I’m sure you remember what happened when the Australia Royal commission tried to subpoena Governing Body member, Geoffrey Jackson, to testify under oath? The Society’s lawyer was instructed to mislead the court with the false story that Jackson was only involved in translation and had nothing to do with policy making regarding child abuse.  This is, of course, a lie. The only reason he was forced to testify was that many viewers with intimate knowledge of Jehovah’s Witnesses emailed the court alerting them to this lie.

When Governing Body member, Gerrit Losch, was subpoenaed to appear in a California Court where a child abuse case was being tried, he wrote in an affidavit to avoid appearing:

“I do not direct, and have never directed, the day-to-day operations of Watchtower.  I do not have, and never have had, any authority as an individual to make or determine corporate policy for Watchtower or any department of Watchtower.”

Notice how carefully worded that is, skirting the truth.  Yes, as an individual, he does not exercise authority nor direct Watchtower, but does Watchtower dot an “I” or cross a “t” without the say so of the Governing Body of whom Losch is the most senior member?

Actually, based on Gerrit Losch’s own definition of what constitutes a lie given in the November 2016 broadcast, he did lie in that affidavit.

The big question is: if they truly want the public to know the truth and avoid the prejudicial news coverage that David Splane is lamenting, then why do they fight so hard not to have their day in court or their moment in front of the camera?  Jesus says that we are supposed to let our light shine, that we need to put our lamps on a table where the light will fill the whole house.  But rather than let their light shine, the Governing Body seems to prefer to just accuse everyone else of prejudice.

By the way, I’ll put links to that information I just mentioned in the description field of this video.

[David Splane] Now let's be clear, some news organizations are very conscientious about the reporting and they want to present both sides of an issue and when Jehovah's Witnesses are concerned, they do so at their cost. If a newspaper publishes anything positive about us, the churches will push back. Our parishioners are upset. They subscribe to your newspaper. They don't like reading favourable things about Jehovah's Witnesses. The message? If it ever happens again, they are going to lose subscribers.

[Eric Wilson] Now we are being fed a conspiracy theory, and like all such conspiracy theories, it comes with no supporting evidence.  David, how do you know this? Where is the evidence? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

[David Splane] Now, this matter of Jehovah's people being the subject of malicious reports isn't new. Think about the days of Queen Esther. Wicked Haman brings a bad report to King Ahasuerus: “The Jews don't obey our laws they’re a danger to society. Does Ahasuerus check the facts? Does he demand proof? No, Ahasuerus is naïve. He allows himself to be taken in by Haman. While there are a lot of modern-day Hamans today and they use similar tactics, as a result some government officials are taken in. They believe the slanderous accusations of the apostates. Now if they just take the time to check the facts, they'd see that they are being lied to, but they don't check the facts. Now again, it’s bad enough brothers when government officials are taken in by false reports. Don't you be taken in.

[Eric Wilson] David is comparing Jehovah’s Witnesses as an organization to the nation of Israel. Christendom is not spiritual Israel. Only Jehovah’s Witnesses are.  Apostates are like wicked Haman who lied about the Israelites. And the Pagan king in those days is compared to modern government officials who do not check the facts, but just blindly believe these wicked apostates. What a load of cow manure.

Does he really expect us to believe that government officials are just going to believe anyone who walks in off the street with a complaint?  There are rules. There are laws.  People have to protect their jobs from attack for unfair and unlawful prosecution.  People in the world need a little thing called evidence.  It is not like the community of Jehovah’s Witnesses where people are judged on the basis of rumor; shunned on the basis of rumor.  David has the roles reversed.

I personally watched weeks of televised coverage of the Australia Royal commission in which they investigated Jehovah’s Witnesses. Tens of thousands of pages of data were analyzed. Many elders of the Australian Jehovah’s Witnesses’ community were questioned under oath. Victims of their mismanagement of child abuse also testified under oath. Even Geoffrey Jackson, a member of the Governing Body, was questioned under oath. The government got all the facts. They did not rush to summary judgment.  In fact, they pleaded with the Witness leadership to make changes for the betterment of the little ones.  But their pleading fell on deaf ears.

The result was a series of recommendations made to the organization on ways to improve their handling of child sexual abuse cases. However, the organization rejected virtually every recommendation made by the government. Why? Were the government officials incompetent? Did they not have all the facts?  No.  The simple fact of the matter is that the organization cannot accept any recommendation made by what they consider to be a worldly government run by Satan. Their hands are tied.  To accept government regulations would be to admit that their guidance does not come from holy spirit from God but is the bumbling product of men interested in preserving their station and authority.

Splane ends this little diatribe by exhorting the brothers not to be taken in by false reports. However, since he wishes the government would investigate before accepting anything that these lying apostates tell them, he has to allow the brothers and sisters to do the same, right? But he’s just finished telling them not to listen to apostates and not to investigate. Just go to the elders, he says. They have all the answers. Hey, I was an elder for forty years and I can tell you without a doubt that they don’t.  Not even close.

I went on JW.org and used their search tool to find out if there was anything on the Australia Royal commission or on any of the other cases concerning child sexual abuse in which the society has had to pay out millions of dollars in damages. There is nothing there. Zilch. Nada.

Why not?  Don’t we deserve to know how our hard-earned donations are being used?

If you are a loyal Jehovah’s Witness obeying to the letter what David Splane is telling you to do, you will be totally ignorant of any of these issues. So exactly how are Jehovah’s Witnesses supposed to—how did David put it—oh, yeah: “just take the time to check the facts”?

[David Splane] Have you ever heard the expression “trial by media?” It works like this: Someone is charged with a crime and the case is widely publicized in the media, and the media present the case in such a way that everyone who hears about it thinks the man is guilty.

[Eric Wilson] Yes, I have heard of trial by media. In fact, I have experienced it.  I’m sure that everyone who has started to question the teachings and/or the practices of the Organization has also experienced it.  In my case, as in that of others, the medium is the rumor mill and it is a very powerful and robust medium by which rumors spread like wildfire among Jehovah’s Witnesses.  Years before they ever attempted to disfellowship me, I was slandered and vilified behind my back.  Rumors circulated back to me from trusted friends who overheard them and repeated them to me.  Some of these were truly outlandish and utterly false, but it didn’t matter because they were readily believed.  Within short order, friends I’d had for decades started to look at me strangely and distance themselves from me.  So yes, David. We heretics have heard and experienced trial by media, so excuse us if we don’t feel overly sympathetic when we hear it happening to you.

[David Splane] Of course, to avoid a lawsuit for slander or libel, these media reports are very carefully worded. And we need understand what the wording means. Here’s a good principle to keep in mind: Job chapter 12 and verse 11; it's amazing how many principles we can draw from the book of Job for this talk. Job chapter 12 and verse 11. This is Job speaking, and he says, “Does not the ear test out words as the tongue tastes food.” Does not the ear test out words. What does that mean?

[Eric Wilson] Yes, David, what does that mean? Before we listen to David’s explanation, what do you think it means?

How does the tongue taste food? We taste food by putting it in our mouth so our tongue can come into contact with the food and taste it.  So how would the ear test out words?  It would have to hear the words, would it not?

[David Splane] Does it mean that if we learn that apostates are going to be featured on the TV program, we should watch it to see if what they say is true? No, it basically means to consider the source of the words.

[Eric Wilson] No, it doesn’t. It doesn’t mean that at all.  What a load of cow dung! David wants us to test out words with our ears by denying our ear the words themselves. Does the tongue taste food that we do not put in our mouth?  Do we taste food by considering the source?  No, we taste food by putting it on the tongue and we test out words by putting them in our ear.

This man is supposed to be the organization’s key scholar, for the love of Pete.  He is just trying to find some Scriptural support for turning a deaf ear to hard evidence, and there isn’t any so he’s trying to fabricate it. It’s the overlapping generation all over again.  Made up stuff.

[David Splane] If they are the words of apostates, why would we believe them? Think of it this way. You have a bottle on your shelf marked “poison.” Do you need to open it up, take a swig to see if it really is poison? Believe what the label says!

[Eric Wilson] David is using four, count ‘em, four different logical fallacies here. The first is called the fallacy of false equivalency.  Comparing the label that a manufacturer of some poisonous or toxic chemical applies to his product with the label that David is sticking on anyone who disagrees with him is a false equivalency.  The manufacturer has a right, in fact, a duty to properly label his product, but who are you, dear David Splane to label anyone you disagree with as an apostate?  That is a loaded label fallacy designed to poison our minds to your opponent so that we won’t even listen to his argument.  The loaded label fallacy is actually a type of Ad Hominem fallacy or Ad Hominem attack.  That means “attack the man”.  You see, if you cannot defend your position with facts and truth, you must resort to slandering your opponent in the hope that your audience is naïve enough not to notice the ploy.  It helps if you are in a position of power, as David is over Jehovah’s Witnesses. In that case, you can rely on the Appeal to Authority fallacy to carry the day.  Except that particular fallacy is beginning to suffer from too much wear and tear. Frankly, this overuse of the apostate label is a disgraceful tactic, and David Splane, along with the rest of the Governing Body, should be ashamed of themselves for continuing to use it while pretending to be exemplary Christians.

[David Splane] Now, for the purpose of this discussion, let’s consider another way we can test out words, and that is to pay attention to what the words mean. Remember we talked about media reports and how these are very often carefully worded to avoid a lawsuit. So, suppose a report indicates that someone has been charged with a crime or that he’s being investigated. All right, you have two words: charged and investigated. It doesn't mean he’s guilty

[Eric Wilson] Let’s be fair here. David Splane is right. Just because someone is accused of something or is being investigated for something, it doesn’t mean he’s guilty. Of course, it doesn’t mean he is innocent either.  That being said, if we find that the same person or institution or organization is being investigated and accused for the same type of crime over and over in many places and many countries, it does make us wonder if there might be some fire where that smoke is.

[David Splane] Or suppose that someone is convicted and put in jail. Well, that would apply to our young brothers in Korea, wouldn't it? They were convicted and jailed. And what was the crime? They refused to kill someone. Did they do anything wrong? Or, someone is found guilty by men, as Jesus was, it doesn't mean that he is guilty in the sight of God.

[Eric Wilson] The organization is being found guilty over and over in the child abuse cases that have come to court, and more are to follow.  There is no comparison between these cases and those of faithful Korean brothers jailed for refusing military service.  And come on, does Splane really expect us to buy into the idea that the organization’s guilty verdicts are on a par with the trial of Jesus?  This is the false equivalency fallacy taken to ludicrous levels.

[David Splane] So, brothers, we really have to think about these things. We may read that a person or an organization was sued, and then settled out of court. Does settling out of court mean that they are guilty? Not necessarily.

[Eric Wilson] Yeah, it kind of does mean that. There aren’t many noble reasons for settling out of court. Sure, you may be innocent and realize that the time and money to prove it is just not worth your while, so you settle to get rid of the nuisance.  But the organization is paying millions of dollars in these cases, so that hardly fits.  You might settle out of court, if you have reason to believe the trial is rigged, but come on…are we going to believe that in all these states and countries where these trails are going on, all the courts are corrupt and all the trials are rigged?

Why would the organization settle out of court if it means handing over millions of dollars in donated and dedicated funds?  Why not fight it out, win, and then get the losing side to pay court costs?  If the organization is really as innocent as they claim, doing that would discourage future lawsuits.

However, if you are guilty then settling out of court makes a lot of sense, especially if you are concerned about your reputation. If you take a case to court, all the evidence becomes public. But if you settle out of court you can make a nondisclosure agreement part of the settlement. Also, no one knows exactly how much you paid. In other words, you can keep everything secret. The organization settles many cases out of court for these very reasons. However, David Splane would like us to think there are other reasons for doing so even scriptural ones. Let’s listen.

[David Splane] Now in this country (United States) and others, court cases are often handled by a jury. Who are on the jury? Ordinary citizens with no legal training.

[Eric Wilson] Are we hearing this right?  David is impugning the legal system of trial by jury.  These are just regular people with no legal training.  What qualifications do they have of judging the organization?  They are going to mess it up.

[David Splane] These ordinary citizens don't always have access to all the facts, because the judge and lawyers decide which facts will be shared with the jury. So is unlikely that the whole truth will ever come out in court. Actually, neither side probably wants the whole truth to come out in court.

[Eric Wilson] Did we hear that right? Did David Splane just tell us that neither side wants the whole truth to come out? Is he saying that when Jehovah’s Witnesses are being sued, they don’t want the whole truth to come out? Apparently, that’s what he’s saying. Again, he’s impugning the legal system. It is the duty of the judge to ensure that anything that is relevant to the case gets included so that the jury has all the facts, all the evidence put before them. We have seen time and again in publicly available court manuscripts how the organization has used every legal tactic at its disposal to quash evidence that would expose its guilt.

[David Splane] Now sometimes attorneys deliberately withhold information that could be prejudicial to their clients and, in addition, juries have prejudices like everyone else. And some of them, just can't set their prejudices aside. I’ll tell you an actual experience: Some time ago, a lawyer told me about a case he had. It was a case of medical malpractice by a doctor; there was a jury trial. The doctor was clearly shown to be in the wrong, but the jury didn't give the patient a penny. The lawyer was confused. So, after the trial, he approached two of the jurors and asked, “if you don't mind, tell me which part of the testimony you didn't believe?” The jury replied, “Oh, we didn't get that far. The doctor was cute and we didn't want him to have to pay anything.” With deep thinkers like that, no wonder many lawyers try to settle their cases rather than bring them to a jury.

[Eric Wilson] Why is David working so hard to discredit the trial by jury system? Because Jehovah’s Witnesses lawyers are learning that it’s an uphill battle to win the child sexual abuse lawsuits coming upon them in country after country when put before a jury. Once all the facts are there, juries are supposed to reach a righteous judgment.  Sure, they don’t always do that, but David’s little anecdote shows how that can go either way.  For the most part, juries render careful verdicts based on the evidence.  Unfortunately, that has resulted in some hefty financial penalties for the organization which is yet another reason they now prefer to settle out of court.

David is here relying on the belief that Jehovah’s Witnesses are always being persecuted for their faith.  Not for criminal misconduct, but for their faith.  We are Jehovah’s people; therefore, we are hated by the world, we are persecuted by the world, we are misjudged by the world and slandered by the world.  We have no hope of getting a fair trial, so the best we can do is to settle out of court.

[David Splane] But someone will say, “No, I don't believe in settling out of court. I believe in justice and truth.” So that brings up the question, is it wrong to settle the matter before he goes to trial?

[Eric Wilson] Yes, it is wrong to settle out of court if you are innocent as the organization claims to be, well funded and have your own lawyers as the organization is and does, and have to respect that you are trying to maintain the name of God clean and free of reproach as the Organization claims to do. However, if you are guilty, then it is not wrong to settle out of court and in fact it is advisable.

[David Splane] Or is it scriptural? Let’s let Jesus answer that question. Turn to Matthew chapter 5 verses 25 and 26. Interesting that Jesus should mention this with all the important things that Jesus taught. Matthew chapter 5 verses 25 and 26: “Be quick to settle matters with your legal opponent, while you are with him on the way there, so that somehow the opponent may not turn you over to the judge and the judge to the court attendant, and you get thrown into prison. I say to you for a fact, you will certainly not come out of there until you have paid over your last small coin.”

Now this is interesting. Think about the Mosaic Law. Was there any provision in the Mosaic Law to throw someone in jail if he couldn't pay a debt? That wasn't the way. If he couldn't pay it, he would have to work it off, or a family member would have to work it off. So, when Jesus talks about prison and a judge, he is obviously referring to what a Gentile judge would do. But he couldn’t necessarily expect justice from him. Why might he rule against our brother? Well, maybe he got paid under the table by the other party, or maybe he was prejudiced against the race or the religion of the other party.

[Eric Wilson] Here we go again.  David is taking a simple piece of counsel from Jesus and turning it into an us versus them scenario, with the brother being the innocent, the opponent being an unbeliever, and the judge being a corrupt Roman looking for a bribe.  Context, David, read the context.  In Matthew 5:24 Jesus says, “First make your peace with your brother, and then come back and offer your gift.” Then he immediately goes into the settle your problems out of court counsel, so he is not talking about a brother falsely accused by an unbeliever nor is he calling into question the integrity of Roman courts.  How desperate David is sounding as he struggles to find scriptural justification for the organization’s legal issues.

[David Splane] Now notice, Jesus didn't say that the man should settle only if he was guilty. So brothers, let’s not be naïve. Don't believe everything you read. Just because an article is called a news report, doesn't make it true. And an editorial is someone's opinion. And that someone may be wrong, and TV producers they have their own agenda, prejudice, and viewpoint.

[Eric Wilson] Clearly, David Splane and the Governing Body want Witnesses to believe that the reason they are settling out of court and paying out millions of dollars isn’t because they are guilty of a crime, but because the court system is corrupt and weighted against them.

[David Splane] Satan is behind the twisted teachings of apostates. He is the father of the lie, and those who lie are doing exactly what their father does.

[Eric Wilson] I agree with everything he says here. The question is, who is the apostate? Who have we caught lying?  Throughout this discourse, David Splane has repeatedly accused those who oppose him and the rest of the Governing Body as liars and characterized their reasoning as poison.  Yet he hasn’t told us what the lies are? What lies are the apostates spreading about the organization? We don’t know, because he hasn’t said.  On the other hand, we have witnessed David Splane speaking untruths to us in this very video.  We have flagged each and every one. So, again, who is the liar? Who is doing Satan’s work?

In the November 2016 monthly broadcast on JW.org, Gerrit Losch gave us a good definition of what constitutes lying.  He stated:

“A lie is a false statement deliberately presented as being true. A falsehood. A lie is the opposite of the truth. Lying involves saying something incorrect to a person who is entitled to know the truth about a matter. But there is also something that is called a half-truth. The Bible tells Christians to be honest with each other.”


“So we need to speak openly and honestly with each other, not withholding bits of information that could change the perception of the listener or mislead him.”


(Gerrit Losch, November 2016 JW.org Monthly Broadcast)


David Splane has withheld many pieces of information that would alter our perception. As I said at the start, the major public relations scandal affecting the organization right now is its decades long mishandling of child sexual abuse, and this is one of the main topics which those Splane calls “apostates” are talking about, yet has David even uttered the words “child sexual abuse”?  Is there even a single reference on the JW News page of JW.org to any of these cases around the world?  I think this is a valuable piece of information that the average JW has a right to know about, so why does David—how did Gerrit Losch phrase it?—oh, yeah…Why does David “withhold bits of information that could change the perception of his listeners or mislead them”?

[David Splane] Apostates have nothing to offer us brothers. All they have to offer is hate. All they have to offer is criticism, negative talk.

[Eric Wilson] I admit that some of the web sites that are critical of Jehovah’s Witnesses are just full of anger and hate.  Splane would have us believe that these people are motivated by Satan and hate Jehovah’s Witnesses because they God’s chosen people.  Again, he is playing the victim card.  The Organization doesn’t want to think of itself as the victimizer.  Nevertheless, if you learn that you have been lied to for decades; if you learn that the teachings in which you invested your hope for salvation are false; if you have denied yourself or others certain medical procedures only to learn the Bible does not condemn them as you were taught; if you have foregone the benefits of an education because you were told it is wrong; if you learned of the hypocrisy of your leaders who condemn contact with the politics of this world, while secretly affiliating themselves with the United Nations; if you have suffered physical or sexual abuse by prominent members of the congregation only to have the elders turn their back on you, or worse, make you the problem—well, I think it would be naïve for anyone to think you wouldn’t feel anger and even hatred.

I felt that myself, and all who leave the organization go through it, but while some lose all faith in God and Christ and truly turn apostate, others cling to Jesus and experience freedom and joy.  These are the heretics who not only expose the lies of the organization, but who move beyond hatred into love. Love for the Christ and their heavenly Father and true love for their brothers and sisters in Christ.

David is about to explain how remaining faithful to the organization is the source of joy, but I can assure you that greater joy will come if you are faithful, not to the men of the Governing Body, but to Jesus Christ.  Let’s listen to David, because unlike him, we are not afraid to listen to negative talk and lies, because we have the sword of truth and the shield of faith.

[David Splane] But oh how upbuilt we feel when we're with those who love Jehovah. So, Jehovah provides us with good wholesome associations. He also provides us with his word of truth, and an accurate knowledge of the truth is the best defense against apostasy. Read the Bible every day and meditate on it. Pay attention to the words. Pay attention to what they mean. Be like the Beroeans referred to at Acts, chapter 17, in verses 10 and 11. Let’s read that. Acts chapter 17 verses 10 and 11: “Immediately by night, the brother sent both Paul and Silas to Berea. On arriving they went in the synagogue of the Jews. Now these were more noble minded than those in Thessalonica, for they accepted the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily, [carefully examining the Scriptures] daily to see whether these things were so.

[Eric Wilson] OH YES!  OH YES!  OH YES!  OH YES!

Brothers and sisters, please be like the Beroeans. Carefully examine the Scriptures on a daily basis to see if the things you are being taught by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society are so. Look for Scriptural evidence that there is an overlapping generation. Look for Scriptural evidence that the Governing Body was appointed as the faithful and discreet slave in 1919. Look for Scriptural evidence defining exactly who the other sheep are. Don’t look in the Watchtower for this information. Look in the Bible. In fact, take every doctrine that is unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses and try to prove it to yourself without assuming it is true or false in the Bible. Either you will strengthen your faith in the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses, or you will see that they are lying. I don’t recommend you go to apostate websites, or even the websites of heretics such as myself. When I started to examine the teachings of the Governing Body, I used only the Bible. If you want a piece of apostate literature—at least from the viewpoint of David Splane—you can do no better than the Holy Bible.

[David Splane] Now Paul compares the Beroeans with the Thessalonians what we know about the Thessalonians? They didn't have YouTube in those days. But at one point, the Thessalonians apparently heard a rumour that the Day of Jehovah had arrived. Who circulated the rumour? An apostate? Maybe. But maybe it was just someone who had heard the rumour and passed it on without checking it out. Have you ever done that, passed on a report without checking the facts? I think all of us have to admit that we've been guilty of that at one time or another. But now how did the Thessalonians react? They were alarmed. They were quickly shaken from their reason. We must not let that happen to us. When you hear something, check it out! Don't just circulate it, don't just believe it. Check it out.

[Eric Wilson] OH MY GOODNESS!  I couldn’t believe what I was hearing when I came to this part of the talk.  Does the man not realize what he is saying?  Truly, Proverbs 4:19 applies.  After talking about the light getting brighter, it says:

The way of the wicked is like the darkness; They do not know what makes them stumble. (Proverbs 4:19, New World Translation)

They do not know what makes them stumble. They walk in darkness and cannot see what they are stepping in.

David Splane is telling us not to be like the Thessalonians who believed and spread the rumor that the Day of Jehovah had arrived. What do you think 1975 was David? The Governing Body convinced the rank-and-file that the Day of Jehovah was about to arrive. And things are no different now. They have reworked the doctrine of “this generation” to some bizarre construct called the overlapping generation which has allowed them to now predict that Armageddon will come well before the members of the Governing Body die. The broadcasts on JW.org and talks on the convention platform now use the word “imminent” to describe how near the Day of Jehovah is.

He wants us to be like the Beroeans, but he and the rest of the governing body are still acting like the Thessalonians did!

[David Splane] Colossians 2:6 and 7. The last Scripture we’ll read during this talk, and here Paul explains how we can avoid being quickly shaken from our reason. That's read this final Scripture - Colossians chapter 2 verses 6 and 7. “Therefore, just as you have accepted Christ Jesus our Lord, go on walking in union with him [you do that and you will be working with the wise ones certainly] being rooted and built up in him and [then notice this] and being stabilized in the faith, just as you were taught.” If we’re stabilized in the faith, we won’t be quickly shaken by unfounded accusations by apostates or the media. False rumours are often spread during wartime. Brothers, THIS IS WAR! We need to put up a hard fight for the faith, as if our life depended on it, because it does!

[Eric Wilson] What David Splane says here is true. This is a matter of life and death. We need to put up the hard fight for the faith. The question we must answer is, which faith? For David, it is faith in the organization. Faith that the organization is the channel Jehovah God is using. Faith that the Governing Body is the faithful and discreet slave. But the Bible never says anything about putting faith in an organization, nor does it say anything about putting faith in a group of men. We must put faith in Jesus Christ. We have to exercise faith that his teachings are true. We don’t need men to interpret the teachings of Jesus Christ for us. All we need is the Holy Spirit to guide us to the truth.

The court system around the world has been adversely affected by COVID. Many cases have been delayed. Now that the COVID crisis is starting to wind down, a lot of court cases will be coming front and center. There is a class-action suit in Canada against the organization. In one particular New York case, the lawyer for the plaintiff has subpoenaed members of the Governing Body. The child abuse problem for Jehovah’s Witnesses is far worse than that for Catholics. The Catholic Church only has to contend with the consequence of its mismanaging child abuse among its 800,000 clergy, while Jehovah’s Witnesses have mismanaged cases among its 8 million members. There are now cases before the courts in pretty much any first-world country you care to name. In addition, a number of governments are reviewing the charitable status of Jehovah’s Witnesses in light of these abuses and the alleged human rights infraction stemming from its shunning policy.

It appears that this talk is preemptive damage control.  They hope that Jehovah’s Witnesses will believe the organization is innocent and the Governing Body is innocent, and all is well, because when Jehovah’s Witnesses begin to have serious doubts about the organization, the first thing they stop are their donations. It is the one form of silent protest any Jehovah’s Witness can make without fear of consequences. Perhaps this is why the Governing Body is so busy selling thousands of kingdom halls and scooping up the funds.

If we can free ourselves from enslavement to men and turn to the Christ, we can whether any storm successfully. But if we blindly adhere to the teachings of men and put faith in an organization rather than God, when it is shipwrecked, we will surely suffer. I’ll leave you with those sobering thoughts.

Thank you for watching, and again thank you for your support. It’s not easy being a heretic.

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  • Comment by rudytokarz on 2021-08-05 14:57:01

    Eric,
    Great review and as I listened last weekend to this part of the convention, I had many of the same thoughts.
    The one quote that stood out to me was when he was comparing the Thessalonians and the Beroeans was "When you hear something, check it out! Don’t just circulate it, don’t just believe it. Check it out."
    So...we SHOULD listen to what the 'apostates' say to determine if they are correct?!? (Did nobody review this outline?)

    Thanks again for your efforts,

    Rudy

  • Comment by Ad_Lang on 2021-08-05 15:17:47

    Coincidentally, I'm listening to a "Local Needs" talk in the congregation here, about exactly this.
    Looking forward to reading this material next (and I'll watch the talk) in preparation for Sunday's JC meeting.

  • Comment by Ilja Hartsenko on 2021-08-05 16:07:27

    I think that David Splane really cares not about what God and Christ want, but about his position that he has achieved in the organization. After all, it is necessary to react somehow to the negative coverage of the organization's activities in the media. What he really lacks is fear of God and true love for the truth and neighbour. So either he has to tell the truth or a lie. He chose the latter. By their deeds you will know them, said the Lord.
    And thank you, Eric, for the video. 
    It’s not easy being a heretic.:)

    • Reply by Ad_Lang on 2021-08-05 17:47:20

      Yes, seeing the talk I considered that a proper teacher would stick with the usual thing: open the Scriptures, pray for holy spirit to see the truth of the matter.
      I've done that before, and in some occasions the outcome was as I had thought to begin with, but at other times reality turned out to be somewhat different than expected.

      This one expression I love for that reason: "Truth is happy to be questioned, but the lie hates being challenged and may do anything at any cost to avoid that".

      Little correction: "by their fruits you will know them" (Mat 7:20). I've been wondering which divisions they cause, but there are two easy ones to come up with:
      (1) the "anointed" vs. the "other sheep"; and
      (2) threats to or actual expulsion of anyone who thinks differently and has "unapproved" opinions (Prov 6:19).

      I found that the enforced unity is actually driving people apart in secret and puts people back on their own, even if they play the unity game along, as it were. It takes courage to even speak out about feeling like that, perhaps because some may see it as weakness or worse, and would then proceed to distance themselves.

    • Reply by Andrew on 2021-08-06 14:46:28

      That is true of many of the elders in my congregation. Their primary wish is to maintain and improve their position in the organization. Their "sheep" are not important to them. Their position and the opportunity to lord it over others is much more important. I recently read an elder Jeremiah 23 and Ezekiel 34. He accused me of being an apostate. "For just reading the Bible?", I responded? He suggested I would be better off following what is on the bulletin board at the Kingdom Hall.

  • Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2021-08-05 16:42:39

    Good to have this article, Eric. I listened to David Splane's "rant" on its own, before the other items.. I am proud to be a heretic.

    It annoys me that Splane decided to use Jude to say men had "slipped in".

    As you correctly point out, and it is as I had noted myself, the false brothers in the third and fourth century were already there. No doubt that number included those who fought for truth, but they could not fight successfully due to the weight of powers that be.

    Splane says to avoid those who are teaching things contrary to what we learned. Sadly, we did not know how twisted those early teachings were.
       
    On the subject of settling out of court, where Splane asked "Does settling out of court mean they were guilty ? ", what was behind this. A person may settle out of court because the fight will mean bad publicity and he is not confidant of his position. It is as simple as that.
    One thing I also found interesting is that Splane did not say not to visit "these forums", Perhaps he dare not say this (otherwise how do they know what goes on) . And with those words, hopefully a few more will not be put off checking the truths that can be found on the Internet. With any luck, some will come here. If they come, then they will indeed find truth.

    In fact, although quite a number of You Tube items are gripes, they rarely lie, and they do not usually distort the truth. Mr Splane please note this.

    Good to see you are back to your fighting self, Eric. Very good indeed. Hope your body is doing as well.

  • Comment by making sure on 2021-08-05 20:02:11

    Hi Eric, thank you for your excellent review. This is my first post having recently awakened and serving as an elder. I sat through David Splane’s talk with my JW family. It was the worst talk I have listened to. It did occur to me though, that the real apostates are those who seek to get into the fold. Hence their being described in the Bible as “wolves in sheep’s clothing .”
    That they will not treat the flock with tenderness suggests that they will occupy positions of oversight. The flock will, of course, trust them as we are taught never to question them. Trusting Jehovah is synonymous with trusting the organisation. It’s as if they are the same in the minds of the Witnesses.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-05 22:21:01

      Good to have you with us, Making Sure.

  • Comment by Beroeans Creed on 2021-08-05 20:26:45

    Eric that was a “masterful” review of this talk! 
    Oh wait sorry that accolade was already used for Splane’s overlapping generations explanation by one of the GB helpers.
    What is it with Splane? He drew the short straw again and forced to give another nonsensical, misapplied scripture based gobbledygook of a talk! 
    The GB is definitely under the deluding influence of the man of lawlessness, as he must have done this in one take and like the Pharaoh of Egypt pronounced, “SO LET IT BE SAID…SO LET IT BE WRITTEN.” 
    Did these guys even watch this and edit before putting it out there…I mean this was recorded months ago, or are they so full of themselves they didn’t notice the convoluted mess this was.
    If any JW just watched the last 10 minutes he basically said “if you hear of something….check it out before you pass it on, ok I just received permission to finally see what all this Apostate hubbub is all about because you guys just continually dance around it what the Apostates are actually saying. Kinda nullifies the first 20 minutes of this talk.
    How do they think this is going stop the great awakening that Jehovah is about to bring (Luke 8:17 ) the Exodus has already started in mass since the overlapping talk and Just as Jehovah has used the rulers in the past to bring about discipline on his named people (Assyria, Babylon, Rome) he is using them today through their legitimate legal systems, and what has really got to be putting a bur under their saddle many “Apostates” and Heretics have played a huge role in awakening the  “beast” to the shenanigans of an organization that contrary to Splane’s statement is not even on their radar, much less a worldwide organized hatred of Jehovah’s Witnesses. So Splane is playing that card a little to early wouldn’t you say?

    One more thing… his advice to go to the elders will never happen out of general fear and if like me during a shepherding call,they would quickly find out that they are clueless to any of the Apostate tactics and will look like deers in a headlight if asked about the ARC ( you mean like Noah’s?) and that a GB member testified,so don’t bother no help there, you just get silently marked.

    I could rant on, and I applaud your intestinal fortitude to get through this absolute preemptive strike by the GB before the real SHTF!
    I’m sure you had to pause it and pray for Holy Spirit to get through it on more than one occasion.

    Good Job as always Eric

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-05 22:20:02

      Thank you, BC. It was days of work to put it all together but I confess to feeling a good deal of satisfaction to be able to expose it for the load of BS that it is.

  • Comment by Zacheus on 2021-08-05 21:04:25

    I once saw a quote, forget where, that "so and so is inebriated by the exuberance of his own verbosity." Splanes talk is like wt talks in general. They use 100 words when 10 would do.
    and he seems to think by making accusations he is offering evidence.

  • Comment by marielle on 2021-08-06 05:40:56

    Avec des mots comme
    Apostats - Poison - haine - divisions - mensonges - critiques négatives - suppôts de Satan
    On se demande qui, maltraite qui !

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-06 08:02:00

      So true, Marielle. It's projection. They are doing the very thing the criticize others of doing.

  • Comment by James on 2021-08-06 06:05:04

    Thanks for the analytical response Eric.
    Splane's talk showed the best response watchtower has, and is so weak.
    Just like they did in Reasoning Book- "If someone says.. " he should have itemized the main apostates accusations and provide official response, rather, he was vague, sometimes asking listeners to ask elders, majority of whom who are very ignorant to child abuse lawsuits, media accusations, UN 10 years relationship,etc .

    'Check it up if you hear anything' he said, and we are doing just that Splane, thanks for the official GB advise to check it up

  • Comment by Beroeans Creed on 2021-08-06 06:38:15

    I guess Splane forgot about this WT article,

    from the January 15, 1974 Watchtower: 

    What results when a lie is let go unchallenged? Does not silence help the lie to pass as truth, to have freer sway to influence many, perhaps to their serious harm? What happens when misconduct and immorality are allowed to go unexposed and uncondemned? Is this not like covering over an infection without any effort to cure it and keep it from spreading?
    When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider their friends, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?
    If you are among those seeking to be faithful to God, the issues these questions raise are vital for you today. Why? Because God’s servants in every period of history have had to face up to the challenge these issues present. They have had to expose falsehood and wrongdoing and warn people of dangers and deception—not just in a general way, but in a specific way, in the interest of pure worship. It would have been far easier to keep silent or say only what people wanted to hear. But faithfulness to God and love of neighbor moved them to speak. They realized that “better is a revealed reproof than a concealed love.”—Prov. 27:5.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-06 08:01:15

      Thanks BC.

  • Comment by MarthaMartha on 2021-08-06 08:39:13

    Hi Eric, we watched the video of this and at times laughed out loud at your outraged comments, because our reactions were exactly the same.
    I liked the way you exposed the fallacies used; I could see what was happening as he said it but it’s good to have the fallacies named.
    For those of us that have escaped and can see straight, it’s clear that this is a desperate attempt to get JWs to tighten up their blinkers before the court cases are reported.
    Sadly I know some who loved this talk and swallowed every word, believing that the GB are showing evidence of their spirit anointed wisdom by exposing the hatred and deceit of Satan’s world that is intent on destroying Gods own people. Oh and of course of the “sneaky apostates” that they must avoid at all costs.
    I would love to make them watch your review, but some people will never be brave enough to take Splane’s own advice and “see if these things are true”.
    Never mind, you’re doing a great job and that was a masterful rebuttal.
    Thank you so much from two proud heretics.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-06 10:09:26

      Thank you, MarthaMartha

  • Comment by Frankie on 2021-08-06 18:38:31

    Hi Eric.
    I think it was very important to respond to this David Splane's speech. You smashed his unbiblical logic to pieces. Well thank you.
    Frankie

  • Comment by hirdy46 on 2021-08-07 06:56:23

    Scaremongering to the rank and file
    Mr Splane is on the back foot using scripture to mislead yet again

    I think they’ll be an ‘exodus’ in the next few years

    JW’s are good people and I will direct my prayers towards the Great awakening

    So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone's will is to do God's will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority

    Well done exposure of the organisation’s manipulation of scripture Eric

    You crazy heretic ?

  • Comment by Fani on 2021-08-07 08:41:30

    Merci pour cette excellente analyse.

    J'ai été partagée entre la colère devant tant de malhonnêteté et le rire devant tes réflexions.
    Super

    Un ancien m'a envoyé un message me demandant si j'avais écouté ce discours. Ce n'était pas le cas. Je pensais que le sujet concernait essentiellement la foi, je vois qu'il parle plus des apostats et je comprends pourquoi il m'a exhortée à l'écouter puisque j'ai été excommuniée pour apostasie.

    M'inspirant de ton commentaire et de mes propres réflexions, je lui prépare ma longue réponse.

    Il va être bien servi !

    J'ai bien aimé cette mise au point entre l'apostat et l'hérétique.

    Merci pour ton travail
    Nicole

    • Reply by PierrotSud on 2021-08-07 15:56:43

      Courage Fani, nous sommes derrière toi.

  • Comment by rusticshore on 2021-08-07 09:01:43

    Very nicely done - with outstanding biblical rebuttal!

    With each passing speech by the carbon-based lifeforms known as the Governing Body, they are losing members. Only our Lord has the power to topple such a powerful entity as Watchtower. And make no mistake... the collapse has begun - and the exodus is at the
    threshold. (You can hear it in their tone, and sense their fear and their desperation)

  • Comment by Leonardo Josephus on 2021-08-07 13:33:48

    When an article is better on a second read than the first, you know it is a really good article. And so are the comments. Brilliant.

  • Comment by PierrotSud on 2021-08-07 16:04:16

    Wwell, I'm quite disgusted with what I've just heard and read.
    Splane's speech is sickening!
    What a shame to tell all these lies and half-truths on the backs of victims of sexual abuse (who didn't ask for anything), to denigrate all those who are looking for the "truth" as true Bereans.
    He allows himself to criticize the functioning of justice, of governments without any proof.
    What makes me angry is that the majority of brothers and sisters will drink all this "poison" without realizing it.
    I am proud to be a heretic, and it strengthens my spirit that I have made the right choice and taken the right path to Christ.
    Thank you Eric for your answers
    Pierre

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-07 20:53:06

      My pleasure

  • Comment by katrina on 2021-08-08 05:58:37

    Truth does not fear scrutiny. Excellent video it is obvious that Splane doesn't think much through contradictions and doesn't make sense.

  • Comment by new englander on 2021-08-18 22:00:11

    Hi Eric,
    I do not closely follow this website but I do appreciate it. The reason that I do not closely follow this website anymore is because I'm absolutely and completely satisfied in my mind and heart that the Jehovah's Witness organization is evil and corrupt. I no longer have the need to have my feelings and opinions reinforced with additional evidence. For me the trial is over and the organization is guilty as charged. My only interest in the organization at this point is because I have long time acquaintances that I care about. I hope that these acquaintances will find their way to this website and be awakened to the extent that they have been misled.
    I wish that I could call these acquaintances my friends but I really can not. I have made my views of witness doctrine known. I live in a small town and the local congregations are very close knit and any witnesses that were to associate with me would very likely suffer the backroom browbeating of the elders and probably be blacklisted. I think that there are probably a few that would like to associate with me but the potential consequences make it too great of a risk. I have mentioned it here before but the local congregations here mainly consist of two or three families that are all married to each other so misbehaving can cause a lot of trouble for an individual.
    I found this video to be interesting. It seems to me that with each passing day the organization becomes more pathetic and stoops to new lows. The governing body would have been far better off to have remained unseen instead of exposing themselves but I don't think their hubris could allow it. I can not speculate on the timing of the Lord's return but if it is not for a little while yet; it will be interesting to see what happens to the organization. My opinion is that the organization's future is pretty grim. I have mentioned in other comments on this website that in the area in which I live the local congregations for the most part all have a similar model. That model is for the most part familial. Ironically, in light of the organizations multiple "this generation" doctrines, there is also a strong generational component as well.
    These local congregations generally consist of a few great grandparents. Most of that generation though has now passed away. Notably, these people were all born after 1914. The next generation obviously consists of their children who were brought up as witnesses as well as those who came into the organization in the late 1970's and early 80's. In this area and in my lifetime it was in these years that the congregations experienced significant growth that has sustained them until now. These people are the grandparents and are now in their seventies. In fact they are now becoming the great grandparents. Next is the parents who are in there 40's and 50's and then their children who are starting families of their own and thus turning the grandparents into great grandparents.
    It is my view that most all of the remaining great grandparents will remain loyal to the organization out of a sincere faith that they have the truth. While I'm certain that there are exceptions most of the people in this age group are less likely to be on the internet. Those who are no longer certain that they have the truth are not likely to risk being disfellowshipped and losing their families for their few remaining years.
    Some of my acquaintances are in the 70-75 year old grand parent generation and are die-hards. I not sure that anything could break the hold that the organization has on some of these folks. This is realistically the last generation that can desperately somehow, despite reason, try to cling to the 1914/this generation doctrine. It has been stretched to it's absolute limit and I see no way that the organization can spin it one more time, or to borrow your term Eric, move the goal posts.
    It can also be extremely difficult for people to admit that they have made a mistake, In my experience the older a person is, the harder it is to admit that they may have been wrong. I would think that it could be very difficult to admit to making a mistake to one's children and grandchildren especially if they experienced suffering due to affiliation with the organization. I do suspect though that there is an ever increasing percentage of this generation that are pimo's who do not wish to be disfellowshipped and lose all association with family and lifetime friends.
    I suspect that there are probably enough die-hards that the organization will be around for some time yet, though in an ever diminishing capacity. The court depositions of governing body members, the sex scandals, the inability to conceal truth, and the faltering economy will continue to strangle the organization. One of the main selling points of the organization to try to prove that they had God's backing was continual growth. I do not know what the numbers have been recently and I would not believe them anyway because there is no way to independently verify their accuracy. I have seen zero evidence of any growth in a long time in this area and I suspect that is the case all over North America. They always tried to convince people that there was exponential growth in other parts of the world but who knows. The drying up of financial backing and the associated consequences will render it impossible to conceal the truth about growth.
    It is my speculation that the final nail in the organization's coffin will be either the Lord's return or the "parents generation". The "parent's generation" has actually even now witnessed the failure of the 1914/this generation doctrine. They have watched their grandparents pass away with the guarantee that they were given failing to materialize. Some of those in the "grandparents" generation are passing away also failing to witness the events that were guaranteed to happen in their lifetime. I have heard more than one witness in this age group lamenting the fact that they have grown old and that it was not supposed to be this way. These people have personally witnessed or are aware of all of the changes to 1914/this generation doctrine and will probably come to the realization that enough is enough. Are these people going to be willing to bet on the governing body and the organization after seeing parents and grandparents devote their lives and livelihoods only to pass away failing to see the guarantee materialize? I don't see it happening. The failure of the 1914/this generation doctrine has really backed the organization into a corner. They would have people believe that each passing day strengthens their position but in my view it weakens it. Who knows what other skeletons in the closet may come out in the coming months and years that will further erode any faith and confidence that one may still possess in the organization. The false prophecies, failures, scandals, lawsuits, etc. will in my view very rapidly erode the organizations finances but more importantly will also erode the organization's ability to bully people into shunning others. Shunning is really the only tool that they have to coerce people into following their rules. I just see a continual unravelling of the organization and I hope the some of the people that I care about can find their way out.
    Just as side note in case a Witness reads this, I would ask them who else could Jesus be referring to in Luke 21:10?

  • Comment by Ad_Lang on 2021-08-08 18:14:49

    I have to express a special word of gratitude for this video/article.
    This afternoon, I was disfellowshipped for "apostacy", but not before I was able to reproduce part of the material. I will appeal, if only to be able to speak about these things again, including the GB overstepping the boundaries of their authority.

    The JC meeting was peaceful, and I think we left each other in good peace, with me assuring them there is no grudge on my side, although I disagree with the way they handled the matter. I found it most notable that one of them mentioned, just for a moment, that perhaps only one of us all would make it through, and in the end he was listening carefully, despite having been quick to reject Scriptural arguments shortly before that (maybe because I mentioned having seen him being treated poorly himself by another elder on the platform).

    I am kind of glad that a fair few brothers in the congregation are aware of what is happening, so they won't be taken completely by surprise.

    Having said this, anyone having a suggestion on what to say, by all means speak your mind openly and freely. I can very well see the position these elders are in, and I have put the focus partly on the fact that this subject (authority and faithfulness of the GB) does mean their life, without directly saying it yet. Before suggesting, consider that being at peace is the goal so that we can focus on the courage to get the truth out, because "the fruit of righteousness is sown in peaceful conditions for those who are making peace" (Jam 3:18).

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-09 08:21:47

      Take heart.
      . . .“Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens; but whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens. Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household. He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. He that finds his soul will lose it, and he that loses his soul for my sake will find it. (Matthew 10:32-39)

    • Reply by James Mansoor on 2021-08-09 23:07:24

      I am sorry to hear that you are in this situation, you can take a horse to the water but you cannot make it drink, that’s where you’re at, you’re trying to do your best to make them see the truth from God‘s Word the Bible and the facts that you are showing them.???

      On a beautiful sunny day the sky is blue as blue as you can get it, an elderly sister turned and said to a brother if the governing body says to me the sky is not blue it is green then I will say there must’ve been something wrong with my eyes they are right the sky is Green what was I thinking about.

      Your appeal committee is hand-picked unfortunately you have no chance, to them you are a little leaven that will ferment the whole lump. They are not interested in what you have to say, whatever you try to show them, to them it is like pornography they are not interested in what you have to say, but they have to go through the motions to say they’ve given you the chance to speak your peace, they already have enough information on you to be convicted.

      However if you want to deny everything and say how much misled you were and after listening to David Splane talk about apostasy, you came to your senses and you are totally wrong about everything that you have researched and the Scriptures to back them up and be a good little boy from now on… You will be put on a good behaviour bond or marked for a little while, then you will be allowed to make a comment at the meetings as long as you stick to the material and don’t use your common sense or your brain as you will be watched very closely.

      The organisation is losing many members and a lot of money that goes with it, so they want a scapegoat to blame it on, unfortunately that’s where you come in, you will be blamed for everything under the sun and how they have to keep the congregation from people like yourself.

      If you are married, you will never hear the end of it and if you have family members that have been witnesses for a long time, kiss them goodbye.

      Luke 12: 6 Five sparrows sell for two coins of small value, do they not? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7 But even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Have no fear; you are worth more than many sparrows.

      Christ Jesus went through a baptism of fire for his belief and faith, so the question you have to ask yourself was he right for standing for truth and justice.

      Vs 10 And everyone who says a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven.

      The organisation believes they are the Holy Spirit. I’m sorry to tell you once again but you will be mocked and ridiculed for thinking you are smarter than the governing body.

      So I ask you is the sky green or blue that is what you have to consider.

      May the Father and the son be with you at all times they know what you’re going through.

      • Reply by Ad_Lang on 2021-08-11 10:50:29

        You've seen that well and I have made my decision.

        Note that Jesus himself was treated likewise. He pointed out that as the prophets before him had been and his disciples would also be treated in like manner. There are indeed many Scriptural examples and principles that apply, sadly. One of the elders primarily used the Organized book (Mar 7:7-9), and the threat of being thrown out for having a different perspective has stopped many from openly confessing their faith (Mat 23:13,34; Joh 12:42,43).

        I know I have taken a not so easy approach, but as Jesus directed we need to show up for what we are (Mat 5:14-16; Luk 12:2,3). Many have gone before me, and surely I won't be the last one. Some, including the author of this article (who had been an elder for many years), have gone to great lengths to find the truth and live up to it. If even a member of the governing body came out because of the crisis of conscience that he experienced, it is all the more reason to believe that we don't know who will still be moved to take the courage to come out (Rev 18:4-5).

        That is why I have the conviction that I need to do this openly - my first meeting was nearly 10 years ago and those who have known me since are well aware what I am like and the changes I made so far. I hope I have told sufficient brothers/sisters briefly what the issue is and the reason of the coming announcement, so that it will be passed on in the corridors. I'm only going through the appeal (and the hidden second appeal afterward) to expose more individuals to the Scriptural arguments against the belief that the GB have the authority they claim to have. Their position doesn't matter, neither do previous or even current loyalties (2 Cor 10:4).

  • Comment by Rudi on 2021-08-09 09:59:40

    I wish that one of the members of the GB had a 'crisis of conscience' like Raymond Franz had many years ago, and that he would reveal the real truth about the organisation. But I am afraid that the power they have over so many followers, and the millions of dollars that feed their bank accounts every month, are stronger than truth and honesty. So keep on lying, you 'annointed ones', remember on the last day, Jesus will say to you :
    ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ (Mt.7:23)

    • Reply by Ad_Lang on 2021-08-11 10:59:44

      I don't remember where I got it, but it seems accurate to say that the GB members themselves are trapped within the Org. If they leave, they leave with their life but nothing to their name. What are the qualifications they have? I doubt it'll be much considering their stance on secular education. To be fair, I don't have much myself, but it will take more courage on their part to change course, whether they stay in or get out.

      It's quite possible indeed that most of them are beyond repentance, but let's remind that we cannot know that for an absolute certainty (1 Cor 4:3-5).

  • Comment by marielle on 2021-08-13 04:09:46

    Ce discours de D. Splane est une quintessence de l’hypocrisie du GB.
    Il porte des accusations « ad hominem » parce qu’à aucun moment, il ne nomme le sujet véritable, et reste toujours dans le vague.
    Nous comprenons, à demi-mot qu’il parle des procès au sujet des cas de pédophilie, mais comme l’a dit Éric, il n’y a rien, ni dans son discours, ni dans la rubrique presse de jw.org au sujet de la commission royale d’Australie. Rien. Nada.
    Il édulcore la vérité parce qu’elle n’est pas à son avantage.
    Ce n’est que du tapage médiatique !

    Nous ne trouvons pas non plus de détails au sujet des millions donnés à l’amiable pour préjudice aux victimes d’abus sexuels dans la rubrique « comment vos dons sont utilisés ».
    Mais nous y trouvons comment les avocats de l’organisation ont porté devant la cour suprême du Mexique, ou en Équateur, par visioconférence devant la cour constitutionnelle, leur plaidoirie sur la liberté de culte pour, selon leur expression « si peu de personnes ».
    Ils ont gagné les procès, le résultat est donc à leur avantage, ils en tirent gloire et le publieront.
    Mais rien sur les milliers de victimes à qui l’on a suggéré de se taire plutôt que de porter l’affaire devant les tribunaux.
    Chose étonnante, D. Splane termine son discours, en demandant à l’assemblée de s’en aller lorsqu’elle entend des mensonges, car c’est Satan qui est derrière.
    Mais qui a dit des mensonges ?
    Nous n’allons pas passer en revue toutes les fausses dates annoncées comme des certitudes, depuis Russell à nos jours.
    D. Splane cite pour terminer Colossiens 2 : 6
    « Ainsi donc, comme vous avez accepté Christ Jésus le Seigneur, continuez à marcher en union avec lui »
    Oui, nous suivrons ce conseil.
    D. Splane oublie de citer les versets suivants.
    8 : « Soyez sur vos gardes : il se peut qu’il y ait quelqu’un qui vous entraînera comme sa proie au moyen de la philosophie et D’UNE VAINE TROMPERIE selon la tradition des hommes, selon les choses élémentaires du monde et non selon Christ ».
    Le GB est le champion du double langage.
    Ces fausses dates annoncées par le GB étaient des tromperies.
    Il appelle vérité pour lui, ce qu’il appelle mensonge pour « les apostats ».
    Nous mettrons donc notre confiance en Jésus-Christ.

    • Reply by Meleti Vivlon on 2021-08-13 11:26:38

      An excellent comment, Marielle. I'm pasting the translation below:

      This speech by D. Splane is the epitome of GB hypocrisy.
      He makes "ad hominem" accusations because at no point does he name the real subject, and always remains vague.
      We understand, half-heartedly that he is talking about trials about cases of pedophilia, but as Eric said, there is nothing, neither in his speech, nor in the press section of jw.org at subject of the Australian Royal Commission. Nothing. Nada.
      He wateres down the truth because it is not to his advantage.
      This is just media hype!

      We also cannot find details of the millions donated out of court for harm to victims of sexual abuse under "How your donations are used".
      But there we find how the organization’s lawyers took to the supreme court of Mexico, or in Ecuador, by videoconference to the constitutional court, their plea on freedom of worship for, to use their expression "so few people."
      They won the lawsuits, so the result is to their advantage, they take pride in it and will publish it.
      But nothing about the thousands of victims who have been suggested to shut up rather than take the case to court.
      Surprisingly, D. Splane ends his speech, asking the congregation to leave when they hear lies, for Satan is behind it.
      But who told lies?
      We are not going to go through all the bogus dates heralded as certainties from Russell to the present day.
      D. Splane concludes Colossians 2: 6 “So therefore, as you have accepted Christ Jesus the Lord, continue to walk in union with him” Yes, we will follow this advice.
      D. Splane forgets to quote the following verses.
      8: "Be on your guard: it may be that there is someone who will train you as his prey by means of philosophy and OF A WILD DECEPTION according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ ”.
      The UK is the champion of double talk.
      These false dates announced by the GB were deceptions.
      He calls truth for himself, what he calls lie for "apostates".
      We will therefore put our trust in Jesus Christ.

  • Comment by James Mansoor on 2021-08-14 23:07:44

    Hi Eric

    I’m going through some of the articles that you have written and I’m just wondering Eric, why not make short videos anything from 5 to 10 minutes maximum on some of the topics that you have written.

    What do you think?

  • Comment by a watcher on 2021-08-31 15:01:45

    Was the Hebrew religion, the worship of Jehovah, false?
    Was the Israelite religion, the worship of Jehovah, false?
    Is the Christian religion, the worship of Jehovah, false?

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