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by Meleti Vivlon | Nov 11, 2021 | Notifications | 20 comments
I don’t see what Romans 14:12 has to do with not allowing dislikes on the public forum of a JW reviewer website? Anyways, I don’t really agree with the recent changes. It’s worse than what YouTube has done. They went from showing how many dislikes a video had, to not showing how many dislikes a video has. But at least you CAN still dislike. You can’t do any of that here anymore. But, I don’t disagree with them either. I’m neutral on it. And, of course, I’m fine with it. Eric is the admin after all, so what he says… Read more »
Wow! Genius my brother! I never thought of any of these things before!! Thanks so much, this will be very helpful. I currently compiling a comprehensive list of the false doctrines that JW’s teach, as well as all the problems with the GB and WT(such as UN association and covering up child sexual abuse). This just adds weight to all the other reasons why the 1914 doctrine is definitely wrong. Thanks my brother, have a good day! 🙂
“When we can answer all of that with a “yes”, we still don’t have “proof” of anything, one way or another, because the Bible itself is not proof. It is testimony. Now, even I will admit that the Bible is good testimony – even very good testimony. But we must accept that it is, in fact, testimony, and use it and reason on it accordingly. Now, some Christians may not like that idea, and may bristle at the notion of the Bible being called “testimony” instead of proof. I understand that.” Bro, who doesn’t know that? Ok, my bad, I’m… Read more »
Je ne suis pas pour interdire les votes mais autoriser un vote négatif qu’à condition d’expliquer par un commentaire les raisons de ce vote négatif me paraît une très bonne idée.
Est-ce possible ?
To my knowledge, there is no comment plug in that supports that level of functionality. I could either turn off voting altogether or we could just develop thicker skins. 🙂
I get downvoted all the time on YouTube. I realize that it is just the price we pay for being able to air our thoughts publicly.
Mhmmm. Enough said my brother.
Meleti greet you with the inscription at Numbers 6: 24-26 ……. Continue on this path with the approval of Jehovah and Jesus Christ …
Thank you, Aleks.
Did you miss the part where he said, “or we could just develop thicker skins”?
“A down-vote is a number, not a thought.” Wrong, it’s both. The number represents the fact, just like the number 5 can represent 5 oranges. The number 5 isn’t the oranges, but it represnets it. That’s what numbers are literally for. A vote is shown as a number(+1 or -1), and it represents a thought(I agree with this comment OR I disagree with this comment). “YouTube allows separate Vote Up and Vote Down counts, while BP does not. So, a down-vote in YouTube cannot negate or conceal any up-votes. However, the voting process in BP results in “loss of information”.… Read more »
Sorry, I meant to write in respone to “A down-vote is a number, not a thought.”; Wrong, it’s both. The number represents the fact, just like the number 5 can represent, say, a group of oranges. The number 5 isn’t the group of oranges, but it represents it. That’s what numbers are for. They’re abstract entities used to represent concrete facts. A vote is revealed as a number(+1 or -1), i.e. an abstract entity, and it represents a fact, a real thought that someone really had(I agree with this comment OR I disagree with this comment). This is better worded… Read more »
I do believe there is a difference in intent between positive and negative votes. A positive vote means that we agree or we are convinced that an argument or presentation was a sound one. That doesn’t really require much explanation. (Example: If two people are viewing a nice sunset, you don’t need to use many words – just enjoy the sunset.) However, a negative vote implies we view something as wrong. But, what? There are lots of people that might disagree with me, but if they don’t tell me why, how could I ever improve? I don’t know everything. I… Read more »
It is always disappointing to see negative votes with no comment. If you do not agree with what someone has said, what stops you explaining why, whoever you are ?
Greetings to all the brothers and sisters from all over the world ….. I am new to this forum and am currently one of Jehovah’s Witnesses ….. I would like to thank you all for your wonderful articles …. Meleti, Apollos, Alex Rover, Tadua, Eleasar, Elpida, James Penton, Anderestime …. as well as all of you with your constructive and encouraging comments …. Other sites with former Jehovah’s Witnesses have switched to atheism and agnosticism … I thought I was the only one in this world who knew the truth and kept it hidden but I found you too …..… Read more »
was just thinking ……….. I would like to thank you for your hospitality and good advice …… this forum has Christians who delve deeper into the Bible and in order to gather the pieces together and form the partial truth …. because none of us have the full truth ……. in the JW Kingdom Hall they have become lazy and for every topic use the application (JW Library) and do not are able to use the Bible ….. Jesus Christ says: I am with you all the days until the end of the system…..Matthew 28:20
Very heartwarming comment Aleks. I too am an active JW and retain my faith in God, his Son and the Bible. I found waking up to be an isolating experience thinking that I was alone. Beroean Pickets has really helped me to understand that this isn’t the case. I also appreciate learning how to study the Bible correctly as I feel it is vital to be properly nourished with words of truth as found in God’s Word.
This is great news. I read “Crisis of Conscience “ during zoom meetings and this book will help me too. Many thanks.
Just ordered on Amazon. Looking fwd!
Well done Eric and Karl, I have stumbled an elder or made him think by getting him to reason on the establishment of the messianic Kingdom without going into dates, here is what happened. I asked the elder why wasn’t the Bible written in heaven by the angels and given to Man as a guidance? He said it was written for the benefit of mankind as we are imperfect. I asked can you please tell me what is the purpose of the messianic Kingdom? His reply was to bring mankind to perfection and for the praise of Jehovah. I asked… Read more »
Hi Eric. thanks for the news. I read through the book as part of my waking up process, although, for family reasons, I am still PIMO, though not very PI now.. Indeed the information in that book was crucial. Karl Olaf Jonsson did a fantastic job. The JW official line on Daniel 4 is that Nebuchadnezzar’s tree represents Jerusalem cut down in 607 BCE, coming to life again in 1914. Of course the day for a year was never their teaching, but simply borrowed from the Adventists, who in turn picked the basic idea from those that went before. There… Read more »