Identifying True Worship, Part 8: Who Are the Other Sheep?

…say that Jesus is going to destroy everybody at Armageddon except for a tiny group of Other Sheep? Where did we get the doctrine of the Other Sheep from in the first place? It started in 1934 in the August 1 and August 15 issues of The Watchtower. The two-part article was titled, “His Kindness”. The new doctrine was (and still is) completely and exclusively based on several antitypical applications not found in Scripture. The story of Jehu and Jonadab is given an antitypical application to our day. Jehu represents the anointed and Jonadab, the Other Sheep. Jehu’s chariot is…

WT Study: Loyally Supporting Christ’s Brothers

…were not synonymous with his saints. Jesusjeffrey Hi Vox Ratio He does say He puts the sheep on his right, it does not say He puts His brothers on his right. He may well motion toward His brothers for the sheep who are on His right to understand how they have done good to the Master. Four groups: sheep, brothers. angels and goats. The Son of Man not being ‘a group’ but the one identifying His brothers to the sheep. Consequently, the “these” that are mentioned are “those” other than the sheep. 2thess 1_10 Yes His coming to be glorified…

A Great Crowd of Other Sheep

sheep, but not all the other sheep are the great crowd. I reminded me of the truism, all German Shepherds are dogs, but not all dogs are German Shepherds. (We are, of course, excluding those hard working Germans who happen to care for sheep, but I digress.) With such a wealth of so-called accurate knowledge on this subject, would it surprise you to learn that the phrase “great crowd of other sheep” does not appear anywhere in the Bible? Perhaps not. But I am sure it would surprise many to learn that the supposedly obvious connection between these two groups…

Who’s Who? (Little Flock/Other Sheep)

I’ve always understood that the “little flock” referred to in Luke 12:32 represents the 144,000 kingdom heirs. Likewise, I’ve never before questioned that the “other sheep” mentioned in John 10:16 represent Christians with an earthly hope. I’ve used the term “great crowd of other sheep” without realizing that it doesn’t occur anywhere in the Bible. I’ve even debated what the difference between the “great crowd” and the “other sheep” is. Answer: The other sheep are all Christians with an earthly hope, while the great crowd are those of the other sheep who go through Armageddon alive. Recently, I was asked…

The Great Crowd of Other Sheep Praise God and Christ

“Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” Revelation 7:10 [Study 3 from ws 1/21 p.14, March 15 – March 21, 2021] As a background, you may wish to read the following previously published articles which discuss who the Great Crowd of Other Sheep are in-depth. https://beroeans.net/2019/11/24/look-a-great-crowd/ https://beroeans.net/2019/05/02/mankinds-hope-for-the-future-where-will-it-be-a-scriptural-examination-part-6/ https://beroeans.net/2020/03/22/the-spirit-itself-bears-witness/ Issue 1 Paragraph 2 quotes “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” (John 10:16). Notice how these other sheep

Examining Matthew 24, Part 13: The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats

“other sheep” of John 10:16. “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd” (John 10:16 NWT). According to Witness teaching, these “other sheep” are relegated to being only subjects of the Messianic Kingdom, with no hope of sharing with Jesus as Kings and priests. If they obey the Governing Body and zealously preach the Good News according to Jehovah’s Witnesses, they will survive Armageddon, continue to live in sin, and get a chance at everlasting life if…

The Other Sheep Are God’s Children Too

…of the four gospel writers that makes mention of Jesus’ words regarding “other sheep which are not of this fold”. These other sheep were to be brought into the fold so that both folds (Jews and gentiles) could become one flock under one shepherd. All this John wrote about in just the previous chapter to the one under discussion. (John 10:16) So here again John reinforced the idea that the other sheep, gentile Christians, are part of the one flock under the one Shepherd. He’s saying that while Caiaphas was prophesying about what he would have taken as only the…

Going Beyond What Is Written

…par. 19) So the tent of God depicted in Revelation 21:2,3 has been with us for the past hundred years. It would appear that the whole “mourning, outcry, pain, and death will be no more” thing has been on backorder for some time. The Other Sheep Identified If any doubt remains as to the identity of the “other sheep”, it is removed in paragraph 28. “Those people of good will, that is, the Jonadab class, are the sheep of the ‘other flock’ which Jesus mentioned, when he said: “And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them…

Stop the Presses!

…2 flocks , the little flock and the great crowd of other sheep , how does that work jesus? JESUS ,,,,,,,,,, Get out disfellowshipped ! Hahaha ha , pquin7 I think your reading into this watchtower article to much all they are saying is that the city of refuge has no prophetic application. No anti type they will continue with there understanding of the other sheep. It does not take way anything brother, all it does is take way the application of it the other sheep that’s all. It does not destroy their understanding to the other sheep. Phelps Meleti…Con…

Parents, Help Your Children Build Faith

…to be good students of all the publications and videos of the Organization. This is not to say that we cannot use Bible aids to help us understand things, but we should never—never!—use them to interpret the Bible. The Bible should always interpret itself. As an example of this, take John 10:16. “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” (Joh 10:16) Ask your child who “the other sheep” are and what “this fold” represents. If…

Grateful Recipients of God’s Undeserved Kindness

…then there is no basis for two rewards? “Ah”, you say, “but what if the Watchtower is right and the wage is undeserved kindness? Then don’t both the anointed and the other sheep get the same reward?” NO! Undeserved kindness results in the Christian being declared righteous. According to the Organization, “Jehovah has declared his anointed ones righteous as sons and the other sheep righteous as friends.” (See w12 7/15 p. 28 par. 7) So one group becomes sons and one group becomes friends. Not the same wage. But some will counter, “The underserved kindness results in the same outcome…

Beware of Deceit!

Beware of Deceit!

…rejoice that God has promised immortality in heaven to faithful anointed ones and everlasting life on earth to Jesus’ loyal “Other Sheep.” The Other Sheep are not in the New Covenant. See w86 2/15 p. 15 par. 21: “Those of the “other sheep” class are not in the new covenant…” The Other Sheep are not spirit anointed. See w12 4/15 p. 21: “We other sheep are also aware that we will not always have Christ’s anointed brothers among us on earth.” The Other Sheep do not have Jesus as their mediator. See it-2 p. 362 Mediator: “Those for Whom Christ…

Join us for the 2021 Memorial of Christ’s Death

…and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them.” (Revelation 7:15) Again, there is nothing in the Bible to indicate that the other sheep have a different hope. I’ll put a link to a video on the other sheep if you want to understand in detail who they are. Suffice it to say that the other sheep are mentioned only once in the Bible at John 10:16. There, Jesus is differentiating between the flock or fold that was the Jewish nation to whom he was speaking, and other sheep that were…

Geoffrey Jackson’s New Light Blocks Entry into God’s Kingdom

…of you to “carry on prayer” for them. (2Th 3:1) For the prayer of the righteous has much force. (Ja 5:16) May the spirit of the Christ dwell in us all. Your brother, Meleti Vivlon Ken Eric – The link in your video show notes does not go to your article on The Sheep & The Goats but to The Other Sheep article unless it is different on different computers. – Ken Meleti Vivlon Hi Ken, The link at the end goes to the Sheep and Goats video, but when I refer in the video to the parable, the link…

A New Partaker

…you talking about?” “I’m being completely serious, Godric. We are taught that the anointed have Jesus as their mediator, but that he is not the mediator for the other sheep—based on our teaching that the other sheep are class of Christian with an earthly hope. In addition, we are taught that the other sheep are not God’s sons. You must remember that we just had a Watchtower article on that very subject, and there yet another one coming up as the last study in the February issue? We keep teaching that the other sheep are only God’s friends.” “Will there…

Uphold Jehovah’s Sovereignty

…at THAT point in time, the “unrighteous” are all asleep in death, waiting a ressurrection. The only ones on the scene are spirit anointed Christians and the wicked. That’s why when you look at the timing of the sheep-goat parabol, when Christ arrives with the angels there are ONLY sheep (anointed) and ONLY goats (wicked). At that time there are only two groups, and ONLY TWO outcomes for those present: eternal life and eternal destruction. Once again our Lord fails to mention a third group. If there was a third group that were “sheep-like” but not really SHEEP that get…

Morning Worship Part: The “Slave” Is not 1900 Years Old

…claimed he would never deny the Lord, was himself compromised and refused to publicly confess the Christ (Joh. 13:27f; Luk. 22:60ff). Thus, if it is possible to feed Christ’s sheep without a completed canon, and if it is possible to feed Christ’s sheep while at times having a bad attitude, and if it is possible to feed Christ’s sheep while at times succumbing to divisions, and if it is possible to feed Christ’s sheep while at times failing to publicly confess this one as Lord, then it follows that these things are not in fact the necessary and sufficient conditions…

2016, Dec 12-18 – Our Christian Life and Ministry

…they knew about it a full year before. Rutherford wasn’t explaining anything new, but just reiterating what was already known. What is even more noteworthy is that a search of articles and publications explaining the introduction of this doctrine to Jehovah’s Witnesses always names 1935 as the landmark year and never makes mention of these two articles from the previous year. Going to the 1930-1985 WT Reference Index doesn’t help either. Under Other Sheep -> Discussion, it is not to be found. Even under the subheading Other Sheep -> Jehonadab, it is not referenced. Likewise, under Other Sheep -> City…

Baptism: Dedication or Sanctification?

…used. (From w64 [excerpts] 2/15 p. 122-23 Did You Make an Acceptable Dedication to God?) Understanding of the symbolic meaning of water baptism had been broadened out previous to 1952 to include those of the Other Sheep class (those believed to have the hope of living forever in a paradise earth) as well as those of the anointed body of Christ. As stated on page 677 of the book entitled Babylon the Great Has Fallen! God’s Kingdom Rules!: “However, from 1934 onward the anointed remnant plainly pointed out that these ‘other sheep’ must now make a full dedication of themselves…

Set Your Heart on Spiritual Treasures

…Being a ruler with Christ is not a “prize”, as if you ‘won the lottery’. It’s a grave responsibility to be taken with the utmost seriousness, not something to throw a party over. I am more than willing to agree that the Other Sheep doctrine is incorrect, but you have conflated and mashed together so many other conflicting concepts, in an attempt to disprove WT, that the case you actually are trying to make is confusing and nonsensical, and more seriously, unscriptural. You equate the Other Sheep doctrine and the Other Sheep class with an “earthly hope”. Yet, the Bible…

Let Nothing Deprive You of the Prize

…which follows. The righteous Jehovah’s Witnesses will teach and instruct the unrighteous hordes that will return progressively. Other sheep elders among Jehovah’s Witnesses will serve as rulers or princes on the earth for the anointed kings ruling far away in heaven with Christ. (This is how Witnesses misapply Isaiah 32:1, 2 which clearly applies to the anointed brothers of Christ who rule with him in the kingdom of the heavens. – Re 20:4-6) Here’s the problem: The Bible doesn’t teach this earthly resurrection of righteous other sheep. With that in mind, let’s look at all the evidence provided in this…

Identifying True Worship, Part 9: Our Christian Hope

Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 41:15 — 37.9MB) | Embed Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | RSS | More In the last video, we examined the hope of the Other Sheep mentioned in John 10:16. “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” (John 10:16) The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses teaches that these two groups of Christians—“this fold” and the “other sheep”—are distinguished by the reward they receive. The first are…

God's Channel of Communication

…Jesus’ request to feed his sheep: “Jesus said a third time, ‘Simon, son of John, do you love me?’ Peter was distressed that Jesus asked him a third time, ‘Do you love me?’ and said, ‘Lord, you know everything. You know that I love you.’ Jesus replied, ‘Feed my sheep’.” – John 21:17 Observe that Jesus repeated the same message three times. According to the Aramaic Bible in Plain English his request to Peter was: 1. Shepherd my lambs for me. 2. Shepherd my sheep for me. 3. Shepherd my ewes for me. A Sheep Herder not only feeds, but…

144,000 – Literal or Symbolic?

Back in January, we showed that there is no Scriptural basis for our claim that the “little flock” in Luke 12:32 refers only to a group of Christians destined to rule in heaven while the “other sheep” at John 10:16 refers to another group with an earthly hope. (See Who’s Who? (Little Flock/Other Sheep) Of course, this in itself doesn’t disprove the teaching of a two-tier reward system for modern-day Christians, but only that these two terms cannot be used to support that teaching. Now we come to another element of the teaching. The belief that the 144,000 depicted in…

“I Myself Will Search for My Sheep”

…one sheep went missing. And, if they locate their lost sheep, how will they handle his situation. Paragraph 10 says that the shepherd would lovingly support the weak animal. ….and show them love by providing the necessary spiritual support. Paragraph 11 says that the elders try to understand what caused the sheep to stray from the flock, while the next paragraph says that elders will listen while he pours out his heart. Be like that sheep, and see what happens !. Is this article about what really occurs, or what some one thinks should take place ? Not bad in…

Who are the Children of God?

…just say this, wehave to prove it; and we never have. There is but a single reference to the phrase “other sheep” in the Bible and nothing at all to link it to a group of people that become God’s friends and live on earth. (John 10:16) . . .“And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd. Is there anything in the Christian Greek Scriptures to indicate that any of its writers understood the other sheep to…

WT Study: Parents Shepherd Your Children

…and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.” (Mt 25:32) “‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered about.’” (Mt 26:31) “But he that enters through the door is shepherd of the sheep.” (Joh 10:2) “I am the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his soul in behalf of the sheep.” (Joh 10:11) “ I am the fine shepherd, and I know my sheep and my sheep know me,” (Joh 10:14) “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also…

Topic Summary of 2014 Study Articles from The Watchtower

…Article 2: Partial prophetic misapplication of Ps. 45 to reinforce role of other sheep. Article 3: Stick with the Organization to get God’s protection. Article 4: Reinforcing the false doctrine that other sheep are not God’s children. w14 3/15 (May 5 – June 1) THEMES: Make sacrifices. Do not doubt Governing Body. Provide for the Elderly and full-timers. Article 1: Be self-sacrificing. Article 2: Do not doubt nor be discouraged by failed expectations. Article 3: Provide for elderly, but help full-timers avoid this duty. Article 4: More instruction on helping the elderly. w14 4/15 (June 2 – July 6) THEMES:…

WT Study: Imitate the One Who Promises Everlasting Life

…true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” (Joh 17:3) “For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality.” (1Co 15:53) Using these Scriptures, can you prove that God has promised everlasting life on earth to Jesus’ loyal “other sheep”? Can you even prove who the other sheep are? We are taught that the other sheep are not adopted children of God, but only friends. Yet the theme text from Ephesians 5:1 says that we are to “imitate God as beloved children.” Where does it say that the other

Examining Matthew 24; Part 3: Preaching in All the Inhabited Earth

Examining Matthew 24; Part 3: Preaching in All the Inhabited Earth

…They can only achieve perfection or sinlessness upon being declared righteous by God at the end of the thousand years. What resurrection hope did the Jonadabs or Other Sheep have? Exactly the same hope. They too would come back as sinners and have to work toward perfection by the end of the thousand years. So, what is to motivate a Jonadab or other sheep Jehovah’s Witness to make great sacrifices for the work if the reward he gets is no different from that of an unbeliever? Rutherford had to offer them something which the wicked unbeliever wouldn’t get. The carrot…

We Will Go With You

yobec The org. teaches that our salvation depends on supporting Christ’s brothers and identifies these brothers as being partly themselves. Yet, the sheep in Jesus’s illustration do not seem to recognize in advance how it is that they have done good to his brothers, let alone who these ones are. The sheep recognizes them only once Jesus points them out. Since the fulfillment of this illustration is set for the future, during his actual coming, does that not seem to indicate that the identification of these ones cannot be done at this time? Chet The following words, chill me to…

Setting Your Mind on the Spirit Means Life and Peace

…par. 7 The Other Sheep and the New Covenant For the other sheep, being declared righteous as God’s friends allows them to embrace the hope of everlasting life in a paradise earth—either by surviving Armageddon as part of the great crowd or through the ‘resurrection of the righteous.’ (Acts 24:15) What a privilege to have such a hope and to be a friend of the Sovereign of the universe, to be “a guest in [his] tent”! Romans 8 proves conclusively that only sons inherit everlasting life. Thus, the JW Other Sheep doctrine as expressed above is false. ____________________________________________________________________ [i] “However…

Act in Harmony With Jesus’ Loving Prayer (w13 10-15 p. 26)

…his “little flock” and the “other sheep”. It is clear that vs. 24 is all part of the “united as one” equation. So how can we say it applies to the other sheep while simultaneously stating that it doesn’t apply to the other sheep. There’s a nifty little bit of double-speak in the closing sentence of paragraph 15: “This causes rejoicing, not envy, on the part of Jesus’ other sheep and is further proof of the unity that exists among all true Christians on earth today.” Overlooked is the fact that Jesus wasn’t talking about unity with each other, but…

Spread the Good News of Undeserved Kindness

…questions. 1) the Christian Greek scriptures was ONLY written to and for the first century anointed and by extension the anointed today,( narrowed down to the GB )and that they alone are in the New Covenant. 2) Jesus is exclusively their mediator between them and Jehovah. (Most of “other sheep” don’t even realize this one) The other sheep only benefit by extension of Bible principles and their example. The other sheep should be content with getting a shot at everlasting life on earth under the anointed class! This of course sets up a whole series of scriptural problems and a…

Strengthen Your Faith in What You Hope For

…“His Kindness”, in the 1934 August 1 and 15 Watchtower.) Since recent Watchtower doctrine disavows teachings based on antitypes not applied in Scripture (See w15 3/15 “Questions from Readers”) the Other Sheep doctrine is in a sort of limbo right now. It continues to be taught yet the foundation of the doctrine has been removed. What JWs Believe This helps us to understand what lies behind the words written in paragraph 1 of this week’s Watchtower study. “WHAT a wonderful hope true Christians share! All of us, whether of the anointed or of the “other sheep,” hope to see the…

2016, Dec 19-25 – Our Christian Life and Ministry

…much appreciated. I’ll keep this brief 🙂 Did you notice the photo of N Knorr , Rutherford and hayden covington . What’s interesting is H. Covington was of the other sheep. This is of interest because he was the Vice President from the years 1941-1945. Why is that of interest? Well according to the latest adjustment to the Faithful and Discreet Slave teaching in 2013. The GB = F & D slave. So, H Covington part of the GB was also part of the F & D Slave, right, one of the 144,000. And also one of the other sheep….

Approaching the 2015 Memorial – Part 3

…and that he will give us any and all help we need to succeed. We sense his protection and guidance, and follow his direction so that it may go well with us. (Eph 6:2-3)   A Single Lost Sheep What made the one little sheep worthy of the full attention of the Shepherd? The sheep became lost! So Jesus Christ said there would be great rejoicing over a single sheep found and returned to the flock. If you feel unworthy and lost – what makes you worthy over all Christ’s other sheep to receive such love and care? “When he…

Reflections on the Memorial of Christ’s Ransom Sacrifice, Part 2 — Who is Worthy?

…why it was that you thought you were a member of a “great crowd of other sheep” that were excluded from the covenant for a kingdom. You had a publisher’s record card in your congregation file with a check box for O.S., “other sheep.” You ask why you are no better off in standing than those who died before the ransom sacrifice, or unbelieving sons of Abraham—both Jews and Arabs—or people from the pagan nations? These Kingdom princes direct you to examine John chapter 10 where Jesus says in verse 16: “And I have other sheep, which are not of…

How Can We Help Someone Grow Spiritually By Discussing the “Great Crowd”?

…paradisiac conditions are a gift from a generous, merciful, and good Father. Since 1935, this perfect life on earth has been the main thrust of JW preaching, involving a reinterpretation of Revelation 7:9-15 and John 10:16: the “great crowd of other sheep.”[2] A review of the publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses will reveal that the connection between the “great crowd” and the “other sheep” depends on an interpretation of where the “great crowd” is pictured as standing in Revelation 7:15. The teaching began with the publication of the August 1st and 15th, 1935 edition of The Watchtower and Herald of Christ’s…

Gathering True Worshippers

…angels, not evangelists of religious denominations. This parallels Jesus’ words: “The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels” (Mt 13:39). The conclusion is crystal clear: every religious group who claims that their flock today are ‘the gathered sheep’ is deceiving itself! Moreover, every religious group attempting to gather the sheep is going against the clear message in Scripture! This same applies for the activities of Beroean Pickets. Even if we recognize each other as Brothers and Sisters – association with us in no means grants an exalted status as sheep. Salvation is individually, not as…

Should I Partake at this Memorial?

…and sin to look forward to, followed by a final test, only after which they can be granted everlasting life in the fullest sense of the term. In this, the non-anointed Jehovah’s Witness who is allegedly declared righteous by God gets the same prospect as an unrighteous resurrected one, even one who has never known the Christ. At best, he can look forward to a “head start” in the race toward perfection over his non-Christian or false-Christian counterpart. Apparently, this is all God’s declaration of righteousness amounts to in the case of a member of the Other Sheep. Now it…

WT Study: Rejoice Over the Marriage of the Lamb

…with this is that if the great crowd are the other sheep and if the other sheep are earthbound, then why is the great crowd shown standing before the throne in the naos (inner sanctuary) and not in some courtyard (aulen)? When Judas threw the 30 pieces of silver into the temple (naos), he must have thrown it into the sanctuary where only the priests entered, not into some courtyard where the average Israelite could walk. Enough money to buy a piece of land strewn about on the floor of a public courtyard would have caused a mad scramble, yet…

The Spirit Bears Witness – How?

…little tastes given us, and we can at least ponder… But, again, I recommend reading John’s gospel, to begin to understand why we all need to get on the same page as Christ wants us to obey one shepherd; Him. (John 10) John’s gospel is pure water that will open one’s heart and mind to the matter Meleti discussed above. Candace The John 10:16 scripture about other sheep is such a troublesome one because JW insists that the other sheep are those who Jesus extends the invitation to become his followers. They are one flock under his care as a…

Beroean KeepTesting

…with other sheep around him. I remember commenting on it, something along the lines of, “What a beautiful painting of Christ holding the sheep. He cares much for us all.” He told me that the painting had been done by a now-deceased member of the Governing Body. He explained that it depicted the sheep in Jesus’ arms as representing the anointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The rest of the sheep represented the great crowd. The very moment he uttered those words, I felt a sickness run through me that I cannot explain. That was the first and ONLY time I…

Awakening: Part 5, What’s the Real Problem with JW.org

…Body rejected the holy spirit as the means God uses to direct us to truth. They claimed that angels were guiding them. The Other Sheep are instructed to reject the emblems of Christ’s life-saving flesh and blood. The Governing Body has declared itself to be the faithful and discreet slave bypassing a judgment only Jesus can make upon his return. (Mt 24:45-47) The Governing Body graphically eliminates Jesus, and shows themselves as God’s channel of communication. The salvation of the Other Sheep depends on obedience to the Governing Body. All who emphasize Jesus and shed light on the teachings of…

Peace and Security—A Final Sign?

…us, Jesus Christ. He assures us that his chosen ones will be protected. How, is not important. All we need to know is that our salvation is in very good hands. He tells us: “And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.” (Mt 24:31) “But that only applies to the anointed”, some will object. “What about us as the other sheep?” This article—Who are the Other Sheep?—shows that the other sheep are the chosen…

The Spirit Bears Witness with Our Spirit

…be taken from the anointed….Jonadab was there as one to learn, and not one who was to teach….The official organization of Jehovah on earth consists of his anointed remnant, and the Jonadabs [other sheep] who walk with the anointed are to be taught, but not to be leaders. This appearing to be God’s arrangement, all should gladly abide thereby.” (w34 8/15 p. 250 par. 32) This priestly class was further restricted in 2012 to just the Governing Body, they being the sole channel God uses to communicate today with his servants. Paragraph 10 “Those who have received this special invitation…

Jehovah Called Him “My Friend”

…Passover meal. John was a very loved discipel. You can have a lot of buddies , but one bosom friend, a very special one. Dajo Jesus identifies his brothers – Mark 3:34,35 Matt 12:50. These then would be Jesus brothers so his fathers sons… We are God’s sons then. Puts a whole new slant on the parable of the sheep and goats. If we are God’s sons because of Jesus saying we are his brothers, then we should also partake. We cannot be the “other sheep” helping a few annointed because in that parable they don’t know who the annointed…

“Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”

…God himself personally approved of and appointed as the rightful King? John 10 1 ¶ Truly, truly, I say to you, The one not entering through the door into the sheepfold, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a plunderer. 2 But the one entering through the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name, and leads them out. 4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes in front of them, and the…

WT Study: Give Thanks to Jehovah and Be Blessed

…his Father, these will be declared righteous for life eternal. In this, the other sheep do not differ from those who did not know God and who return in the resurrection of the unrighteous. re chap. 40 p. 290 par. 15 Crushing the Serpent’s Head However, they [faithful pre-Christian servants] and all others [the unrighteous] who are resurrected, as well as the great crowd of faithful other sheep who survive Armageddon and any children that may be born to these in the new world, must yet be raised to human perfection. So a faithful Christian who works side by side…

WT Study: Work to Enhance the Spiritual Paradise

…the earth. The other sheep are on the earth. Therefore the other sheep are in the temple. Are you with me so far? Okay, now what is the temple? It is an arrangement. An arrangement for worship. Therefore it is not something you are part of but rather something you have to serve. Place you have to be. Therefore, you serve “at the temple”. “Less than a century after the Christian congregation was established, a foretold apostasy began to develop. Thereafter, it became increasingly difficult to identify who was truly serving God at his spiritual temple.“ – par. 6 Notice…

Making Our Time Count

…we are the only ones doing the preaching of the good news and that the end is very near. When I pressed him again for even a single proof scripture, he quoted John 10:16. I countered that verse 16 only proves there are other sheep, a fact I was not disputing. I asked for proof that the other sheep are not children of God and have an earthly hope. He assured me that he knew there was proof, then went right back in to the standard catch-all about being loyal to Jehovah and His Organization. One can always keep pressing…

WT Study: ‘This Is to Be a Memorial for You’

…4 But if the household is too small for the sheep, they and their nearest neighbor should share it between themselves in their house according to the number of people. When making the calculation, determine how much of the sheep each one will eat. 5 Your sheep should be a sound, one-year-old male. You may choose from the young rams or from the goats. 6 You must care for it until the 14th day of this month, and the whole congregation of the assembly of Israel must slaughter it at twilight. 7 They must take some of the blood and…

Is There Proof That the Holy Spirit has Left JW.org?

…same time will agree with the Watchtower teaching that the other sheep—a group making up almost 99.7% of all Jehovah’s Witnesses—are only God’s friends, Jehovah’s friends. How can they hold two such contradictory ideas in their mind? I’m not making this up. This is what the Insight book has to say about the other sheep: it-1 p. 606 Declare Righteous In one of Jesus’ illustrations, or parables, relating to the time of his coming in Kingdom glory, persons likened to sheep are designated as “righteous ones.” (Mt 25:31-46) It is notable, however, that in this illustration these “righteous ones” are…

The Spirit Bears Witness

…which spirit we cry out: “Abba, Father!” 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children. Are not the other sheep “under obligation…to put the practices of the body to death by the spirit”? Are the other sheep not “led by God’s spirit”? If so, are they not therefore “God’s sons”? Have the other sheep received a “spirit of slavery causing fear again” or a “spirit of adoptions as sons”? Do we not pray to the Father? Do we not say, “Our Father in the heavens”? Or do we just pray to a good friend?…

We belong to Jehovah

…are not two groups. Paragraph 3 tries to perpetuate the false teaching of a heavenly and an earthly destination when it says: “Today, the “little flock,” with a heavenly hope, and the “other sheep,” with an earthly hope, compose the “one flock” that Jehovah highly regards as his people. (Luke 12:32; John 10:16). Again, neither of these cited scriptures supports the different destinations stated. A literal flock of sheep refers to a group of sheep kept together in one location. If you split the flock into two to go to different locations you end up with two flocks coming from…

Salvation, Part 4: All in the Family

…for the appearance of this second group of sheep. Additionally, he doesn’t say that the current sheep have to be fully gathered before he can start to bring in the “other sheep“. What he does say is that at some point in time they become one flock under one shepherd. I see nothing in this to dismiss the idea that the “other sheep” were the gentiles who became Christians. Yehorakam Hi Meleti, as I mentioned “I have come to understand…John 10:16 in a different way.” What evidence is there that Jesus was talking about Jews and non-Jews. None. What evidence…

WT Study: Learn from the Illustration of the Talents

…disciples of Christ since 1919 and that, while the assignment was given to anointed Christians, the millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses who consider themselves as unanointed, “other sheep” Christians are fulfilling the parable as well though they do not get the reward for doubling their talents. Instead, in a curious blending of parables, the Sheep and the Goats parable is merged into the Talents parable so that the other sheep get rewarded with life on earth for working with their anointed brothers in multiplying the talents. (Incidentally, the reward given the sheep makes no mention of location.) Here we are told…

2018, March 26 – April 01, Our Christian Life and Ministry

…claim “the illustration of the sheep and goats shows that the anointed would have help” is a leap far too far as the ‘anointed’ or ‘chosen ones’ are the sheep and not a separate class. Furthermore the prophecy of Matthew 24:14 was shown in last week’s clam to have been fulfilled in the first century and does not have a specific dual fulfillment as claimed by the organization. (Another case of an unsubstantiated type/antitype) In summary the illustration of the Sheep and Goats only emphasizes the preaching work in the minds of the Watchtower writers. It has no support in…

“Do You Love Me More Than These?”

…of three different words for “fish” in verses 5-13. In verse 17 there is some manuscript support for the reading probation , technically meaning “little sheep” (Living Bible). However, the rendering “little sheep” does not appear in any of the major translations. More than these others do (Mft ; see also GeCL , Phps , Barclay , NEB alternative rendering) is to be preferred to the meaning “more than all else” (NEB ). Since Jesus posed a question to Simon Peter, it may be best to translate “Jesus asked Simon Peter,” rather than merely Jesus said to Simon Peter. The…

Examining Matthew 24, Part 7: The Great Tribulation

…who have been saved. These would be the “other sheep” of John 10:16, but not the “other sheep” as depicted by Jehovah’s Witnesses. Witnesses believe the other sheep survive the end of the system of things into the New World, but continue living as imperfect sinners awaiting the end of the 1,000-year reign of Christ to reach a justified status before God. The JW other sheep are not permitted to partake of the bread and wine that represent the lifesaving flesh and blood of the Lamb. As a consequence of this refusal, they cannot enter into the New Covenant relationship…

Pleasant Unity and the Memorial

…unless it is physically or circumstantially impossible, we will be present at the Memorial….When we show by our actions that meetings for worship are important to us, we give Jehovah added reason to keep our name in his ‘book of remembrance’ – ‘the book of life’“. Now read the last paragraph from the past question from readers and see, I think the trivialization of having missed the formal memorial celebration if of the other sheep. “Those who are of Jesus’ “other sheep” class, with the hope of everlasting life on a paradise earth, are not under command to partake of…

Mercy Triumphs Over Judgment

…Adventist theology to maintain a sense of urgency within the flock which makes them malleable and easier to control. But if we are to understand its value to us individually, we have to stop worrying about when it will apply and start to worry about how and to whom it will apply. In the parable of the Sheep and Goats, why do the sheep get everlasting life, and why do the goats go off into eternal destruction? It is all about mercy! One group acts mercifully, and the other group withholds mercy. In the parable, Jesus lists six acts of…

Do You Let the Great Potter Mold You?

…coming and abandons the sheep and flees—and the wolf snatches them and scatters them— 13 because he is a hired man and does not care for the sheep.” (Joh 10:12-13) I have seen wolves enter into the congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and have also seen how rarely the other elders imitate the Good Shepherd and stand their ground against such a man. They act as hired men with no real vested interest in the sheep other than to collect their wage—the status of being elders. Not all elders are like that, but over 50 years and in three countries, I…

2016, Oct. 10-16 – Our Christian Life and Ministry Review

…a company of Jehovah’s witnesses…the leader of a study should be selected from amongst the anointed, and likewise those of the service committee should be taken from the anointed….Jonadab [a non-Israelite representing the other sheep] was there as one to learn, and not one who was to teach….The official organization of Jehovah on earth consists of his anointed remnant, and the Jonadabs [other sheep] who walk with the anointed are to be taught, but not to be leaders. This appearing to be God’s arrangement, all should gladly abide thereby.” (w34 8/15 p. 250 par. 32) While this arrangement passed away…

Theology Unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses

…had begun ruling in 1914. In 1935, Rutherford decided that the calling of “Bride of Christ” was completed and the focus of the ministry was gathering in the “Great Multitude or Other Sheep” of Revelation 7:9-15. This created the idea that a separating work of “the sheep and the goats” were taking place since 1935. (Matthew 25:31-46) This separating was done on the basis of how individuals responded to the message that the Messianic Kingdom that had begun ruling in heaven since 1914 and that the only place where they would be protected was within “Jehovah’s Organisation” when the great…

Who Should Partake?

other sheep. For that matter, we can’t prove that the Great Crowd has any connection whatsoever to the other sheep, nor that they will serve on earth. (See post: A Great Crowd of Other Sheep) The scriptural evidence favors the view that all Christians are in the New Covenant just as all natural Jews were in the old one. (See post: Are You in the New Covenant) Romans 8 proves we are all God’s sons and that we all have the spirit. Verse 16 does not prove that this revelation is anything other than a clear understanding of our position…

WT Study: Have Unshakable Faith in the Kingdom

…love and to give his servants something to work for and to hope for. So here’s the question: Why didn’t He make a covenant with the Other Sheep? Why didn’t Jehovah make a covenant with the Other Sheep? Jehovah’s Witnesses are taught that the Other Sheep are a class of Christian that has an earthly hope. If they put faith in God, he will reward them with everlasting life on earth. By our count, they outnumber the anointed (allegedly limited to 144,000 individuals) by well over 50 to 1. So where is God’s loving covenant for them? Why are they…

WT Study: We Must Be Holy in All Our Conduct

[A Review of the November 15, 2014 Watchtower article on page 13] “Become holy yourselves in all your conduct.”— 1 Pet. 1:15 The article starts off with this subtle piece of misdirection: Jehovah, expects anointed ones and the “other sheep” to do their utmost to become holy in all their conduct—not just some of their conduct.— John 10:16 (Par. 1) John 10:16 does not make a distinction between “anointed ones” and “other sheep”. It makes a distinction between “this fold” and “other sheep”. The “fold” that Jesus was referring to at that moment could not have been anointed Christians because…

WT Study: Be Watchful – Satan Wants to Devour You

…called “other sheep”. The other sheep of John 10:16 were, as Peter knew from personal experience with Cornelius, the gentile Christians. They were all part of the one flock under the one shepherd, Christ. (Acts 10:1-48) The other sheep are therefore part of the “chosen race, the royal priesthood, the holy nation, a people for special possession.” Satan has been made subject to them as well, and they too have their names inscribed in the heavens. Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid Of course, according to Watchtower doctrine, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not have the power ascribed to this holy nation, this…

WT Study: Serve God Loyally Despite “Many Tribulations”

…Jesus. For the “other sheep,” it is everlasting life on earth where “righteousness is to dwell.” (John 10:16; 2 Pet. 3:13)” [A] According to JW doctrine, there are two rewards being put before Christians. A little flock of 144,000 will rule in heaven with Jesus. The rest, now numbering around 8 million, will live on earth. The 144,000 get immortality upon their resurrection. The rest will either be resurrected as part of the resurrection of the righteous or will survive Armageddon, having never died at all. This group is called the “other sheep’ and they will not be perfect (i.e.,…

JW News: Misleading Jehovah’s Witnesses, Stephen Lett’s 2021 Convention Review

…Lett tells us here. He says that we have the same Father in Jehovah God as the men of old had. Yet, a fundamental teaching of the Governing Body is that Jehovah God is not the Father of the other sheep or of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. So which is it, Stephen? According to you guys, the relationship with God that those faithful men of old had only rises to the level of friendship. You say the same about the other sheep. This is what your own Bible Encyclopedia, Insight on the Scriptures, has to say: Like Abraham, they [the…

WT Study: "You Are My Witnesses"

…who may read it who were not perhaps connected to the corinthian congregation .rather than addressing another class of christian .. 1 john 2v2 is interesting as well. He christ is an atoning sacrifice for our sins and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world ..That could mean a handful of different things .as well as a different class of christian. As for the watchtower favourite john 10 v16 the other sheep it seems plain to me that jesus more than likely was speaking of his future gentile sheep a concept that well supported…

Limping on Two Opinions

…too late.” Not sure what you mean by that, Meleti. Most Catholics, most Protestants, will not leave their Christian home for another. Jesus searched for, and fed, the minority not the majority. Only a comparative few will come here seeking encouragement, association, and scriptural insight. If you have found one lost sheep but the other 99 do not want to go with you then count your blessings that God has seen fit to deliver that one sheep into your care. In other words, feeding the sheep we are in association with is our primary mission not fighting the Watchtower. Having…

The JW Governing Body Overrules Jesus’ Command on How We Should Pray to God!

…as represented by the emblems. Yet, here we find hard evidence that the number 144,000 cannot be literal, not if we are going to have a Bible that doesn’t contradict itself. Of course, they ignore this, and have to perpetuate the unscriptural teaching that Jesus is not the mediator to the other sheep. They tell their flock to think of Jehovah as their king and sovereign. Just to confuse the flock, they will also refer to Jehovah as father, all the while contradicting themselves by saying he is only a friend to the other sheep. The average Jehovah’s Witness is…

Your Deliverance Is Near!

…Former members of false religion can choose to repent and assist the Anointed (thus becoming a sheep instead of a goat) as long as the Anointed are still alive. Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2015207?q=sheep+and+goat&p=par#h=13 Paragraphs 3-6 8: Signs in the Heavens and on the Earth now occur. Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2015523 Paragraph 11 Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014263 Paragraph 9 9: A supernatural sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky when Jesus comes to judge the sheep and goats. Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2015523 Paragraphs 12-13 Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014263 Paragraph 9 10: Gog of Magog attacks Jehovah’s Witnesses Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2015523 Paragraph 10,16-17, see point 12 below Source: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014263…

The Earthly Hope Paradox

…teaching of our Organization – that should someone who rejects our message die, he will return in the resurrection of the unrighteous. (Acts 24:15) In this way, we show that Jehovah is fair and just, for who knows but that the individual might have taken a stand for righteousness had he only lived a little longer. However, this all changes when Armageddon arrives. We believe that sheep-like ones accept the hope and join our organization. The goats are outside and they die at Armageddon, going into everlasting cutting off. (Mt 25:31-46) Of all our beliefs, this one bothers us the…

Organized in Harmony With God’s Own Book

…is good advice, but it loses much of its strength due to the misguided JW.org teaching of the Other Sheep. Why is this so? Because the Other Sheep—according to JW.org—will not “judge angels”, which belief undermines Paul’s reasoning at 1 Corinthians 6:3.[vii] Unity vs. Love Paragraph 16 makes an appeal for unity. Love creates unity as a natural by-product, but unity can exist without love. The devil and his demons are united. (Mt 12:26) Unity without love has no value for Christians. What JW.org means when it speaks of unity is really conformity. Conforming to the dictates of the Governing…

2017, August 14 – August 20, Our Christian Life and Ministry

…rather than the time foretold by the Organization, many sheep may lose their lives as a result.” I don’t worry about that because no REAL sheep will be lost. Those that truly are sheep when Armageddon comes will inherit the Kingdom. The sheep are only the spirit anointed. Even still, those anointed that are alive at that time will have to give up their lives to receive their reward (Rev 6:11). If they though righteous don’t escape death, how much less the unrighteous who are not sons of the Kingdom! The truth is there will be no survivors of Armageddon….

The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses Makes a Pathetic Attempt to Deal with Bad Media Reports

other sheep that pervert the message of the good news. However, Splane will not talk about these things. In fact, throughout the course of this talk, the words “child abuse” never even pass his lips. This is a huge public relations and financial catastrophe that threatens the very existence of the organization, yet his listeners would never know a thing about it were they to confine themselves to the talks and publications issuing forth from the Watchtower corporation. Next, David Splane creates a strawman argument to support his call for witnesses to turn a deaf ear to any negative talk….

WT Study: The Last Enemy, Death, Brought to Nothing

…15/09 p. 13 par. 6) But it isn’t, is it? Not really. Actually, when you look at it objectively, the other sheep get no reward at all. According to paragraph 13, “The majority of Adam’s offspring will be brought back to life.” According to paragraph 14, those of the first resurrection in heaven “will provide assistance to those on earth, helping them to overcome the imperfection that they could not conquer on their own.” (Par. 14)[A] Let’s illustrate this from a real life experience. Both Harold King (anointed) and Stanley Jones (Other Sheep) endured the tribulation of years of solitary…

Approaching the 2015 Memorial – Part 2

…the sheep and the goats at Matthew 25. Isaiah 24:6(b) “Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up, and very few are left.” If this scripture is relating to Armageddon and there are survivors, then could these survivors be the sheep and goats? Skye Anonymous Also, Matt 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.” – Could this be after the resurrection of the elect; and therefore the survivors of Armageddon (Isa 24:6(b)) – that is if they are the sheep and goats – the sheep who…

Isaiah's Foreigners

…in the future. Therefore, how can we understand the fulfillment of verse 5. The Watchtower article would have us believe that the foreigners are those of the “other sheep” class who have an earthly hope. (For the sake of this discussion, we’ll accept that the “other sheep” refers to a group of Christians with the hope of living on a paradise earth. For an alternate view, see “Who’s Who? (Little Flock/Other Sheep)”) The article states: “In addition, there are many loyal Christians who have an earthly hope. These, though working with and associating closely with those who will serve in…

Can the Resurrected Marry?

…Even today, it is not a hot topic within Christendom for the same reason. However, in the mid-1930s, Jehovah’s Witnesses identified the other sheep class and things began to change. It wasn’t a hot topic right away, because the end was near and the other sheep were going to live through Armageddon; so they would continue married, have children and enjoy the whole enchilada—unlike the billions of unrighteous resurrected. This would create an interesting New World society in which a tiny minority of a few million would exist surrounded by countless billions of (presumably) neutered humans. Unfortunately, the end didn’t…

‘Mankind’s hope for the future. Where will it be?’ – A Scriptural Examination – Part 3

…will be covered in sections so later Bible writers and periods will be covered by later articles and would be the best place for relevant comments to those sections. [i] John 10:16 : Jesus speaking to the Jews said: “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice (which the majority of 1st century Jews were not) and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” Jesus was clearly the shepherd as he says ‘I have other sheep’. He and the apostles only preached to the Jews….

“We Want to Go with You”

…are the “Israel of God” while the rest of Christians are to be considered “men of the nations”. (See Orphans) Paragraph 2 Assertion 4: “Do those of the other sheep need to know the names of all those who are anointed today?” Presupposes that the other sheep are only saved by helping the anointed. (Mt 25:31-46) Mt 10:16 works and is consistent within its context if we understand that the other sheep are really anointed Gentile Christians. Considering everything said in that chapter, it is wild speculation to conclude Jesus was talking about a class of Jehovah’s Witnesses that would…

Approaching the 2015 Memorial – Part 1

sheep” doctrine. Sincere Bible students are left to ponder the following dichotomy of facts based on accepted JW theology. The faithful and discreet slave is God’s appointed channel of communication. Judge Rutherford was the faithful and discreet slave. Judge Rutherford introduced the current “other sheep” doctrine. Rutherford based this doctrinal finding solely on prophetic types not found in Scripture. Conclusion: The “other sheep” doctrine originates from Jehovah. The current Governing Body is the faithful and discreet slave. The Governing Body is God’s appointed channel of communication. The Governing Body has disavowed the use of prophetic types which are not found…

2016, Nov. 7-13 – Our Christian Life and Ministry Review

…of God’s inspired word. Paragraph 15 Jesus also taught that there would be “other sheep,” who would not be part of the “little flock” of his corulers. (John 10:16; Luke 12:32) Another attempt to get us to accept as fact, something for which no proof is given. One might assume that the two Scripture references listed provide that proof. If so, one would be wrong. Observe: “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” (Joh 10:16)…

A Jehovah’s Witnesses Elder Is Tried for Apostasy

…God: As sure as I am the living God—Decree of God, the Master—because my sheep have been turned into mere prey, into easy meals for wolves because you shepherds ignored them and only fed yourselves, listen to what God has to say: 10 “‘Watch out! I’m coming down on the shepherds and taking my sheep back. They’re fired as shepherds of my sheep. No more shepherds who just feed themselves! I’ll rescue my sheep from their greed. They’re not going to feed off my sheep any longer! Jerome Eric, I am so very proud to see how you and your…

More Distancing from Christ

An eagle-eyed reader shared this little gem with us: In Psalm 23 in the NWT, we see that verse 5 speaks about being anointed with oil. David is one of the other sheep according to JW theology, so he can’t be anointed. Yet the old songbook song based on Psalm 23 overlooked this conflict with JW doctrine. However, the powers that be have corrected that oversight in the new songbook by replacing that song with one that says nothing about being anointed with oil but does call Jehovah our friend and God. It is hard to view this as anything…

Young Men—How Can You Gain the Trust of Others?

…they are given.” Yes, it is good to care for the flock but that means obeying the elders, not actually caring for the flock. How rare it is these days to hear of elders leaving the 99 behind to care for that one lost sheep. Paragraph 5 provides us with a head scratching moment when it speaks of David cultivating a friendship with God, calling him David’s “close friend”, citing Psalm 25:14 which says nothing about God being David’s friend. What it does say is that God makes a covenant with those who are known to him. Since there is…

2017, Jan 9-15 – Our Christian Life and Ministry

…the flock,” caring for Jehovah’s sheep and administering justice in harmony with Jehovah’s righteous principles. (Acts 20:28) Such “princes” must meet the qualifications set out in 1 Timothy 3:2-7 and Titus 1:6-9. (ip-1 chap. 25 p. 332 par. 6 The King and His Princes) Additionally, since JW theology teaches that the anointed will leave earth and go to heaven and govern remotely from there, an additional role opens up for these elder-princes. “Princes” who are of the other sheep are being trained as a developing “chieftain” class so that after the great tribulation, qualified ones from among them will be…

Jehovah Rewards Those Who Earnestly Seek Him

…a different prospect. Millions of Jesus’ “other sheep” eagerly anticipate the future reward of everlasting life on a paradise earth. There “they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.”—John 10:16; Ps. 37:11. – par. 15 The context of John 10:16 supports the view that Jesus is referring to Gentiles who had yet to join his flock. There is nothing to support the idea he was identifying a group whose appearance on the world stage would be delayed some 19 centuries. Instead of viewing ourselves as God’s children, the Governing Body would have us consider ourselves merely God’s servants,…

Jehovah’s Purpose Will Be Fulfilled!

…the peaceable since they will be called ‘sons of God’. Paul confirmed this in Galatians 3:26-28 when he wrote, “You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus.” He further went on to say, “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman”. This is reminiscent of Jesus statement to the Jews in John 10:16 “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold, those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” However, until the fulfillment of Daniel…

Who Is Leading Jehovah’s People Today?

…no scriptural basis in repeated articles.[i] Likewise, the doctrine of the generation, which gave rise to 1914 as the start of the great tribulation as well as the failed prognostications surrounding 1925 and 1975, continues to be taught. Its latest incarnation has Witnesses believing the end will come in the next 8 to 10 years, certainly by 2025.[ii] Further, the doctrine of the “other sheep” has perverted the message of the good news for over 80 years (Gal 1:8, 9) and there is no indication that they will ever recognize and correct this false teaching.[iii] There are many other examples…

Applying the Two-Witness Rule Equitably

…in this action they miss the whole point in Jesus’ illustration of the lost sheep (an unrepentant sinner). The shepherd went after that sheep BECAUSE he had special feelings for the sheep. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have left the 99 for it, nor perhaps had success in turning a possible unrepentant sinner back from his course. For think, if you made a mistake and perhaps needed an attitude adjustment, would you be more likely to respond to a cold “impartial” elder you hardly know, or the loving petitions of someone who has always been your very close friend? On…

Anthony Morris III: Jehovah Blesses Obedience

Anthony Morris III: Jehovah Blesses Obedience

…say, that no matter which way you turn it the talk is contradictory and thus makes no sense. Sheep are natural born followers. In the real world of animal husbandry, no sheep will follow another sheep while in the line of sight of their shepherd or while hearing his distinct call. What the Governing Body have done is to gradually wheedle the sheep away from seeing the shepherd in their midst and have muffled his authentic call with their own bleating. (cf. Joh. 10:3f). By not seeing, the sheep more easily follow those who claim to see and by not…

Discipline – Evidence of God’s Love

…pray for? The healthy exclusively? Psalmbee Hi Martha, lol, that is kinda what I meant. But what I had in mind more so, is that the good shepherd goes anywhere and everywhere he thinks one of his lost sheep may be, and will risk his own life to rescue his sheep. Leonardo Josephus All I can say is “Wow!”, just look at the quality of the comments. Its almost like we have been set free, not worrying about what others think. Only one problem, it is taking so much longer to read all you have to say. Keep it up….

Identifying True Worship – Introduction

Identifying True Worship – Introduction

…been laboring under for years by acknowledging that we were very much like all other false religion. What did it for me was the realization that the “other sheep” of John 10:16 were not a separate class of Christian with a different hope. When I realized that all my life they had been messing with my salvation hope, it was the final deal breaker. Of course, the presumptuous claim made at the 2012 annual meeting that the Governing Body was the faithful and discreet slave of Matthew 24:45-47 did nothing to mitigate my awakening to the true nature of the…

Imitate Jehovah’s Compassion

…with a decent father to look up to wants to make him proud. But do humans naturally feel the desire to imitate a friend? Sure, they enjoy hanging out with him, but they don’t necessarily want to imitate him. You possibly have many good friends, but do you feel the same desire to imitate them, please them, and make them proud as you feel toward your own father or mother? This is yet more proof that the doctrine of the Other Sheep as friends of God is a fabrication that attempts to undermine the force of the Bible narrative. Jehovah—The…