The Fruit Bearing Tree

Comment by Walter Finlay on 2015-08-13 11:14:08

This is a wonderful illustration, provided not so much by Alex, but by Christ himself and the Apostle Paul. The tree grafting process is very old as a standard agricultural measure, and being fruitful often involves attaching a fruitful twig or even bud to an established rootstock. In citrus, orange shoots are grafted onto sour lemon rootstocks to produce abundant sweet fruit.
Typical of his teaching by well-understood, simple illustrations, Jesus spoke of "other sheep" becoming "one flock, one shepherd."
Paul follows with these words about the wild olive being grafted in - the Gentiles being added to the congregation.
(Romans 11:17-24) 17 However, if some of the branches were broken off and you, although being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became a sharer of the richness of the olive’s root, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If, though, you are arrogant toward them, remember that it is not you who bears the root, but the root bears you. 19 You will say, then: “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true! For their lack of faith, they were broken off, but you are standing by faith. Do not be haughty, but be in fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Consider, therefore, God’s kindness and severity. There is severity toward those who fell, but toward you there is God’s kindness, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise, you too will be lopped off. 23 And they also, if they do not remain in their lack of faith, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them back in. 24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree that is wild by nature and were grafted contrary to nature into the garden olive tree, how much more will these who are natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

• Reply by katrina on 2015-08-15 08:06:09

  beautiful article I wish this could be a WT study for the b/s to see that we all can bare fruit if we are grafted into the vine of Christ. The fruitage of the spirit.

• Reply by Skye on 2015-08-20 19:13:50

  Romans 11:22 "Consider, therefore, God's kindness and severity. There is severity toward those who fell, but toward you there is God's kindness, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be lopped off." Compare Luke 8:13 "Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away."
  Paul provides a good reminder that God can be both kind and severe.

Comment by LaRhonda Torrence on 2015-08-13 13:06:48

When I saw this tree, I immediately thought about the Scripture at Acts 10:34, "...God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears Him and works righteousness, is acceptable to Him." All the beautiful colors in this tree, all harmoniously blended together enhancing the beauty of the tree itself. Love the picture!

Comment by Alien resident on 2015-08-13 14:12:59

Nicely illustrated, I never knew such a tree existed, I'll use that next time I can use those scriptures. Thanks Alex

Comment by Anonymous on 2015-08-14 15:45:18

This article ties in nicely with the recent one about the role of women. Consider the verse, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." If you omit the male vs. female part, aren't Christians supposed to ignore racial and national distinctions? Are they not supposed to ignore the financial status of other Christians (the modern counterpart to the free vs. slave aspect)? Yes. So if Christians are "all one" in this manner, why would we not take the "male and female" part? But WT does not. They say, "well, if you're a woman who is anointed, you can die and go to heaven and be an angel-like creature with God, and then you can be equal, but until then you are subservient to us and to all men".
That's quite a bit different than what the scripture tells us, wouldn't you say?

• Reply by Deborah on 2015-08-14 20:52:31

  There is enough evidence in the Bible to support the general practice of males taking the lead in the congregation. The examples of Abigail and Deborah, though, prove there are circumstances when a woman can and should stand up to protect her household when her husband fails to do so or when God has appointed a female to judge rather than a male.
  In the days of Josiah the prophetess Huldah was consulted but again this was an event outside the usual.
  After his resurrection Jesus appeared first to women and sent them with instructions to be given to his male disciples. That though did not mean Christ had given women the same responsibilities which his male disciples had. While women were likely present at every possible opportunity to see the risen Christ it is telling that after the initial encounter at the tomb God's spirit did not cause the disciples to record conversations Christ likely may have had with women after his resurrection.
  Surely he must have met and spoken to his mother after his resurrection but even this was not recorded.
  Adam was personally given the first law even before the first woman was created. He was held responsible before God for keeping that law. It was Abraham not Sarah who was called to leave his home, live in tents for the remainder of his life, and promised such blessings that pale only when compared to Christ's. It was Jacob who was given the privilege of founding Israel....this pattern continued into the time of Christ when only males were chosen as Apostles, males were appointed to lead and serve. Males wrote the Gospels and Revelation and the letters.
  Surely, if God had wanted it any other way he would have made it so.
  A great responsibility before God has been put on men. The whole Christian religious structure, good and bad, exists as a product of those men who claim to have inherited the mantel of leadership passed down to them in Scripture.
  Christian women should not attempt to wrest from their brothers what God has given them. Let Christian men have their day. When God chooses, Christian women will step in as necessary. There is no reason for Christian women to feel they have missed out on being a party to all the sins and religious crimes committed in the name of Christ by men claiming to be God's Christian servants. On the contrary, they have been saved the heartache of having to stand before God as one who led millions and tens of millions to their spiritual downfall and idolatry.
  Deborah
  

  • Reply by Vox Ratio on 2015-08-15 07:52:21

    Deborah,
    While not the subject of Alex’s most enlightening illustration, yours was a fine synopsis of the narratives nonetheless. I find no fault in your reasoning.
    Indeed, religious men bear a great responsibility before God. Some will be elevated alongside their fellow female victors in glory, while many more will suffer humiliation when they realise that Christ only shares his throne with those who have been raised up, not those who are still here.

  • Reply by Anonymous on 2015-08-15 09:25:53

    Deborah, you make some very good points. I would not suggest that women should have headship, but there is a difference between ceding headship and ceding everything. A woman cannot be a helper and complement to man if the man never listens. I especially appreciated your line, "Let Christian men have their day." This is a reminder that the arrangements that exist in the congregation and in the world at large are temporary. This day will end, and a new one will arise, in which the world will be governed by righteousness and love, a far different world than what we know and what we base all our current assumptions on. As you noted, we are all answerable to God, and the more responsibility a person has, the more they have to answer for.

  • Reply by Anonymous on 2015-08-28 12:34:43

    When Jesus chose the 12, the Jewish Law was still in force (Gal.4:4 d), under which, men and women were not spiritual equals.
    "Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness FOR EVERYONE who believes." (Rom.10:4)
    "By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear." (Heb.8:13)
    That Law passed away... "disappeared"
    (Christ fulfilled it, when he presented his ransom in heaven
    -Heb.9:24; 1Cor.5:7 c; Rev.5:9-10 to inaugurate a unisex priesthood...
    a temple "not made with hands" -1Cor.3:16)
    as demonstrated at Pentecost.
    This is why Peter announced at Penteconst, the fulfillment of what was prophesied under that New Covenant...
    "but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: 17'And it shall be in the last days,' God says, 'That I will pour forth of my spirit on ALL FLESH; and your sons AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; 18 even ON my bondslaves, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, I will pour forth of my spirit AND THEY SHALL PROPHESY." (Acts2:16-17)
    A woman cannot prophesy as a result of having God's spirit poured forth into her, unless she speaks (not silent, as the LAW SAYS -1Cor.14:34). Pentecost demonstrated that the Law was fulfilled. It's decrees against women speaking, teaching, and "prophesying", had passed away.
    "I do not treat the grace of God as meaningless. For if keeping the law could make us right with God, then Christ died for no purpose." (Gal.2:21)
    Under the new covenant by Christ's blood, "neither male nor female" (Gal.3:28) became the reality, for those born again by spirit.
    "who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John1:13)
    "For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God." (1Pet.1:23)
    "He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created." (James1:18)
    "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God." (1John3:9)
    "You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you." (Rom.8:9)
    "But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit." (1Cor.6:17)
    "That they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me." (John17:21)
    

Comment by Skye on 2015-08-15 16:22:29

How we can bear more and more fruit reminded me of Matthew 13 and the parable of the sower, and how we respond to the seed message of the Gospel of the Kingdom. We need to understand the Gospel message and take it to others.
Another scripture is 1 Peter 2:9 "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." Although we haven't taken up that position in the Kingdom yet, we are working towards that and should therefore be learning those qualities now, such as love, peace, justice, forgiveness, righteousness, reconciliation - living by God's standards.

Comment by Wild Olive on 2015-08-16 00:36:50

It may be a bit off topic, but I am noticing a quite desperation among older jws.
I believe this to be the sign of the lack of a true connection to Jehovah as I now know the only way to have a real connection is through the new covenant.
So my point is, are the brotherhood actually starving spiritually without this arrangement?
Is this a recognised syndrome ?
As a person in the truth gets older and the performance level drops, are they suffering a deep conscience conflict, as that is all there is without the indwelling spirit.
I would like some input.

• Reply by Anonymous on 2015-08-16 10:26:47

  Wild Olive,
  About the "quiet desperation" you observe. The longer you are associated with the WT, the more you will see that things don't quite live up to their initial billing. Consider: New bible students are told of the new system, the "spiritual paradise" in the organization, and so on. Just like "born again Christians" you might meet, who have this impossibly idealistic view that "Jesus loves me, everything is beautiful", new witnesses can have that same "everything is beautiful" perception about the organization. As time passes, the realization hits them that "everything is NOT beautiful". When that happens, they then try to reconcile what they thought the WT was with what it actually is. For a while, they can comfort themselves by saying, 'well, the organization has flaws, but it's better than anything else'. As yet more time passes, they can no longer rationalize away the faults and flaws, but try to 'endure to the end' and 'leave matters in Jehovah's hands'. But there's only so many excuses you can make, and what's left is simply attending for the sake of attending, so as not to draw attention, and quietly withdrawing mentally. That is seen as better than getting DF'd or DA'd.
  I believe the quiet desperation you observe has less to do with matters of the new covenant, whether a person partakes or not, etc. as much as it has to do with the ideal that the WT was held up to be vs. the reality that it is simply an organization of men, and living to obey the commands of men and living to please men is spiritually unsatisfying.
  P.S. For anyone not aware of this, you should watch the Australian Royal Commission on Child Abuse videos.
  You can find an index to them at http://watchtowerdocuments.org/
  They are hard to listen to, but a real eye-opener. Even more than the sad stories of those abused is the callous indifference of the elders. This will anger and infuriate anyone that takes the time to listen. If you EVER wondered why you had doubts about why the WT is not the "true religion", listen to this. You won't have doubts any more.

Comment by Wild Olive on 2015-08-16 03:05:50

That's quiet, no spell check sorry