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Musi waKurume 27 wegore rino, tichange tichirangarira chirangaridzo cherufu rwaJesu Kristu online tichishandisa Zoom technology. Pakupera kwevhidhiyo iyi, ndinenge ndichigovana ruzivo rwekuti ungazobatana nesu online sei uye riini. Ini ndakaisawo ruzivo urwu mune tsananguro munda weiyi vhidhiyo. Iwe unogona zvakare kuiwana pane yedu webhusaiti nekufamba uchienda kune beroeans.net/meetings. Tiri kukoka chero ani zvake ari muKristu akabhabhatidzwa kuti abatane nesu, asi kukoka uku kwakanangidzirwa kune vaimbova hama nehanzvadzi dzedu musangano reZvapupu zvaJehovha avo vakaona, kana kuti vava kuzowana, kukosha kwekudya zviratidziro zvinomiririra nyama neropa remununuri wedu. Isu tinoziva izvi zvinowanzove sarudzo yakaoma kusvika nekuda kwesimba remakumi emakore rekudzidziswa kubva kuWatchtower zvinyorwa zvinotitaurira kuti kutora chete kwevanhu vakasarudzwa zviuru zvishoma asi kwete zvemamirioni eImwe Makwai.
Muvhidhiyo iyi, tichave tichitarisa zvinotevera:
- Ndiani chaizvo anofanirwa kudya chingwa uye kunwa waini?
- Ndivanaani vari 144,000 XNUMX uye "Boka Guru Revamwe Mamwe Makwai"?
- Nei Zvapupu zvaJehovha zvakawanda zvisingadyi?
- Tinofanira kuyeuka rufu rwaIshe kangani?
- Chekupedzisira, tingajoinha sei chiyeuchidzo che2021 online?
Pamubvunzo wekutanga, "Ndiani anonyatsodya chingwa newaini?", Tichatanga nekuverenga mazwi aJesu munaJohani. (Ndiri kuzenge ndichishandisa New World Translation Reference Bible muvhidhiyo iyi. Handivimbe nekururama kweshanduro ya2013, inonzi sirivheri bakatwa.)
“Ndini chingwa cheupenyu. Madzibaba enyu akadya mana murenje asi akafa. Ichi chingwa chinoburuka kubva kudenga, kuti chero munhu adye pachiri agorega kufa. Ndini chingwa chipenyu chakaburuka kubva kudenga; kana munhu akadya chingwa ichi achararama nokusingaperi; uye, chokwadi, chingwa chandichapa inyama yangu kuti ndichengetedze upenyu hwenyika. ” (Johani 6: 48-51)
Zviri pachena kubva pane izvi kuti kurarama nekusingaperi - chimwe chinhu isu tese chatinoda kuita, handiti? - isu tinofanirwa kudya chingwa chipenyu chinova nyama inopiwa naJesu akamirira nyika.
VaJudha havana kunzwisisa izvi:
“. . Saka vaJudha vakatanga kuitirana nharo, vachiti: "Munhu uyu angatipa sei nyama yake kuti tidye?" Naizvozvo Jesu akati kwavari: “Chokwadi, chokwadi ndinoti kwamuri, Kana mukasadya nyama yoMwanakomana womunhu nokunwa ropa rake, hamuna upenyu mamuri.” (Johani 6:52, 53)
Saka, haisi nyama yake chete yatinofanira kudya asiwo ropa rake ratinofanira kunwa. Zvikasadaro, isu hatina hupenyu matiri. Pane chero musiyano here kumutemo uyu? Jesu anoita gadziriro here yekirasi yemuKristu asingafanirwe kudya nyama yake neropa rake kuti aponeswe?
Handina kuwana, uye ndinodenha chero munhu kuti awane gadziriro yakadaro inotsanangurwa mumabhuku eSangano, ndoda muBhaibheri.
Zvino, vazhinji vevadzidzi vaJesu havana kunzwisisa uye vakagumburwa nemashoko ake, asi vaapositori gumi nevaviri vakasara. Izvi zvakakurudzira Jesu kuti abvunze mubvunzo wevanegumi nevaviri, iwo mhinduro kune angangoita Chapupu chaJehovha chose chandabvunza chinokanganisa.
“. . Kubva pane izvi vazhinji vevadzidzi vake vakadzokera kuzvinhu zvavakasiya vasingachafambizve naye. Naizvozvo Jesu akati kune vanegumi nevaviri: “Nemiwo hamusi kuda kuenda here?” (Johani 6:66, 67)
Iko kubhejera kwakachengeteka kwazvo kuti kana iwe ukabvunza uyu mubvunzo kune chero shamwari dzako dzekupupura kana hama, vachati mhinduro yaPetro yaive, "Tichaendepi zvakare, Ishe?" Zvisinei, mhinduro chaiyo yaive yekuti, “Ishe, tichaenda kuna ani? Ndimi mune mashoko oupenyu husingaperi… ”(Johani 6:68)
Uyu musiyano wakakosha kwazvo, nekuti zvinoreva kuti ruponeso harubvi pakuva kumwe kunhu, kunge mukati me "sangano rakafanana neareka", asi nekuva nemunhu, ndiko kuti, naJesu Kristu.
Nepo vaapositori vasina kunzwisisa zvaireva mazwi ake panguva iyoyo, vakanzwisisa nekukurumidza paakatanga chirangaridzo cherufu rwake vachishandisa zviratidzo zvechingwa newaini kumiririra nyama neropa rake. Nekudya chingwa newaini, muKristu akabhabhatidzwa ari kufananidzira kumiririra kugashira nyama neropa zvakabayirwa naJesu panzvimbo yedu. Kuramba kutora, ndiko kuramba zvinomiririrwa nezviratidzo uye nekudaro kuramba chipo chemahara chehupenyu.
Hakuna paMagwaro apo Jesu akataura nezvetariro mbiri kuvaKristu. Hakuna kupi kwaanotaura nezvetariro yekudenga kune vashoma vevaKristu uye tariro yepasi pasi pevazhinji vevadzidzi vake. Jesu anongotaura nezvekumutswa kwevanhu vaviri chete:
“Musashamiswa neizvi, nokuti awa iri kuuya mairi avo vose vari mumakuva ekurangaridza vachanzwa inzwi rake vobuda, avo vakaita zvakanaka kukumuka kweupenyu, uye avo vakaita zvakaipa kurumuko mutongo. ” (Johani 5:28, 29)
Zviripachena kuti kumutsirwa kuupenyu kwaizoenderana neavo vanodya nyama neropa raJesu, nekuti sekutaura kwakaita Jesu, kunze kwekunge isu tadya nyama neropa rake, hatina hupenyu matiri. Rumwe kumuka — kune vaviri chete — nderwevaya vakaita zvakaipa. Izvo zviri pachena kuti haisi tariro iri kuwedzerwa kune maKristu anotarisirwa kuita zvakanaka zvinhu.
Zvino kugadzirisa mubvunzo wechipiri: "Ndivanaani vane zviuru zana nemakumi mana nemana uye" Boka Guru Revamwe Makwai "?
Zvapupu zvaJehovha zvinoudzwa kuti vane 144,000 XNUMX bedzi vane tariro yokudenga, nepo vamwe vose vari rutivi rweboka guru ramamwe makwai ayo acharuramiswa kuzorarama pasi pano seshamwari dzaMwari. Uku kunyepa. Hapana pese muBhaibheri panotaurwa nezvevaKristu seshamwari dzaMwari. Ivo vanogara vachirondedzerwa sevana vaMwari. Vanogara nhaka yehupenyu husingaperi nekuti vana vaMwari vanogara nhaka kubva kuna Baba vavo vanova tsime rehupenyu hwese.
Nezve 144,000, Zvakazarurwa 7: 4 inoti:
"Uye ndakanzwa huwandu hweavo vakaiswa mucherechedzo, zana nemakumi mana nemana, vakaiswa mucherechedzo kubva kumadzinza ese evana vaIsraeri:…"
Iyi inhamba chaiyo kana yekufananidzira here?
Kana tikazvitora sezvazviri, tinosungirwa kutora imwe neimwe yenhamba gumi nembiri inoshandiswa kuverenga nhamba iyi sezvazviriwo. Iwe haugone kuve nenhamba chaiyo iyo iyo huwandu hwakazara hweboka remamaki ekufananidzira. Izvo hazvina musoro. Heano manhamba gumi nemaviri anokwana zana nemakumi mana nemakumi manomwe. (Varatidze pamwe chete neni pachiratidziri.) Izvi zvinoreva kuti kubva kurudzi rumwe nerumwe rwevaIsraeri nhamba chaiyo ye12 inofanira kubuda. Kwete 12 kubva kurimwe dzinza uye 144,0000 kubva kune rimwe. Chaizvoizvo gumi nemaviri kubva pane imwe neimwe, kana zvirizvo tiri kutaura nhamba chaiyo. Izvi zvinoita sezvine musoro here? Chokwadi, sezvo ungano yechiKristu inosanganisira maHedeni ichitaurwa nezvavo saIsraeri waMwari pana VaGaratia 12,000:12,001 uye pasina madzinza muungano yechiKristu, idzi nhamba gumi nembiri dzichatorwa sei kubva gumi nemaviri, asi dzisipo madzinza?
MuRugwaro, nhamba yegumi nembiri uye kuwanda kwayo zvinomiririra zvakaringana, zvakagadzwa nenzira yeumwari. Marudzi gumi nemaviri, makumi maviri nemapfumbamwe mapoka evapristi, gumi nevaviri mapostora, nezvimwewo. Zvino cherechedzai kuti Johane haasi kuona vane zviuru zvine zana nemakumi mana. Anongonzwa nhamba yavo ichisheedzwa.
"Uye ndakanzwa huwandu hweavo vakaiswa mucherechedzo, zviuru zana nemakumi mana nezvina ..." (Zvakazarurwa 144,000: 7)
Zvisinei, paanotendeuka kuti atarise, anoonei?
“Pashure peizvi ndakaona, uye, tarira! boka guru revanhu, vakanga vasina munhu aikwanisa kuverenga, vanobva kumarudzi ose nemadzinza nevanhu nendimi, vakamira pamberi pechigaro cheumambo nepamberi peGwayana, vakapfeka nguo refu chena; uye matavi emichindwe mumaoko avo. ” (Zvakazarurwa 7: 9)
Anonzwa huwandu hwevakaiswa mucherechedzo se144,000, asi anoona boka guru revanhu risina munhu anokwanisa kuverenga. Uhwu ndihwo humwe humbowo hwekuti nhamba ye144,000 inomiririra boka rakakura revanhu vari muhurongwa hwehutongi hwakaenzana, hwakagadzwa naMwari. Ndihwo hwaizova humambo kana hurumende yaIshe wedu Jesu. Ava vanobva kumarudzi ose, vanhu, ndimi, uye cherechedzai, madzinza ese. Izvo zvine musoro kunzwisisa kuti iri boka raisanganisira kwete chete maHedeni asi maJuda kubva kumarudzi gumi nematatu, kusanganisira Revhi, dzinza revapristi. Sangano reZvapupu zvaJehovha rakagadzira mutsara unoti: "Boka guru remamwe makwai". Asi chirevo chake hachina nzvimbo muBhaibheri. Vanoda kuti titende kuti boka guru iri harina tariro yekudenga, asi vanoratidzwa vakamira pamberi pechigaro cheushe chaMwari vachipa basa rinoyera munzvimbo tsvene, munzvimbo tsvene (muchiGiriki, naos) panogara Mwari.
“Ndokusaka vari pamberi pechigaro cheumambo chaMwari, uye vari kumuitira basa dzvene masikati nousiku mutemberi yake; uye Uyo agere pachigaro choumambo achatambanudza tende rake pamusoro pavo. ” (Zvakazarurwa 7: 15)
Zvekare, hapana chinhu muBhaibheri chinoratidza kuti mamwe makwai ane tariro yakasiyana. Ini ndichaisa chinongedzo kune vhidhiyo pane mamwe makwai kana iwe uchida kunzwisisa zvakadzama kuti ndivanaani. Zvakaringana kutaura kuti mamwe makwai anotaurwa kamwe chete muBhaibheri muna Johane 10:16. Ikoko, Jesu ari kusiyanisa pakati peboka kana danga raive rudzi rwechiJuda kwaaitaura narwo, nemamwe makwai aive asiri erudzi rwechiJuda. Ivo vakazove vahedheni vaizopinda muboka raMwari makore matatu nehafu gare gare mushure mekufa kwake.
Sei Zvapupu zvaJehovha zvichitenda kuti zviuru zana nemakumi mana nenhanhatu inhamba chaiyo? Izvi imhaka yekuti Joseph F. Rutherford akadzidzisa izvozvo. Rangarira, uyu ndiye murume akatangawo mushandirapamwe wekuti "Mamirioni ari kurarama haangafi" akafanotaura kuti mugumo waiuya muna 144,000. Dzidziso iyi yakashorwa zvizere uye kune avo vanoda kutora nguva yekudzidza humbowo, ndicha isa chinongedzo kuchinyorwa chakadzama chinoratidza poindi irondedzero yevhidhiyo iyi. Zvekare, zvakaringana kutaura kuti Rutherford aigadzira vafundisi uye vanhuwo zvavo kirasi. Iwo mamwe makwai Kirasi yechipiri yechiKristu, uye anoramba achidaro kusvikira kuzuva rino. Iri boka revanhuwo zvavo rinofanira kuteerera zvese zvinorairwa uye mirairo yakapihwa neboka revapristi, boka revakazodzwa, rinosanganisira mukutungamira kwavo dare rinodzora.
Zvino kumubvunzo wechitatu: "Sei Zvapupu zvaJehovha zvizhinji zvisingadyi?"
Zviripachena, kana chete vane zana nemakumi mana nemana vachikwanisa kudya uye 144,000 iri nhamba chaiyo, saka chii chaunoita nemamiriyoni eZvapupu zvaJehovha vasiri chikamu che144,000?
Kufunga ikoko ndiko kunoita kuti dare rinodzora riite kuti mamirioni eZvapupu zvaJehovha asateerera mutemo wakananga waJesu Kristu. Ivo vanoita kuti maKristu echokwadi aya atende kuti havana kukodzera kutora. Izvo hazvisi zvekuve wakakodzera. Hapana mumwe wedu akakodzera. Izvo ndezve kuteerera, uye zvakanyanya kupfuura izvozvo, ndezvekuratidza kuonga kwechokwadi kwechipo chemahara chiri kupihwa kwatiri. Sezvo chingwa newaini zvichipfuudzwa kubva kune mumwe zvichienda kune mumwe pamusangano, zvinoita sekunge Mwari vari kuti, “Heino, mudiwa mwana, ndicho chipo chandinopa kwauri kuti urarame nekusingaperi. Chidya, chimwa. Uye zvakadaro, Dare Rinodzora rakwanisa kuita kuti chimwe nechimwe Chapupu chaJehovha chipindure kudzokera, "Maita basa, asi kwete maita basa. Izvi hazvisi zvangu. ” Inhamo yakadii!
Iri boka rekuzvitutumadza revarume kutanga naRutherford uye kuenderera mberi kusvika kuzuva redu vakurudzira mamirioni evaKristu kusimudzira mhino yavo kuchipo icho Mwari chaari kuvapa chaizvo. Murutivi, ivo vakaita ikoku kupfurikidza nokushandisa zvisakafanira 1 VaKorinte 11:27. Ivo vanofarira kuita cherry kunhonga vhesi uye vanofuratira mamiriro acho.
"Naizvozvo, ani naani anodya chingwa kana kunwa mukombe waShe zvisina kukodzera achava nemhosva pamusoro pomuviri neropa raShe." (1 VaKorinde 11:27)
Izvi hazvina chekuita nekuwana kukokwa kwakavanzika kubva kuna Mwari kunokutendera kuti utore. Chirevo chechinyorwa chinoratidza zvakajeka kuti mupostori Pauro aitaura nezvevaya vanobata kudya kwaIshe kwemanheru semukana wekudya zvakanyanya uye kudhakwa, nepo vasingaremekedze hama dzakashata dzinopindawo.
Asi zvakadaro vamwe vanogona kupokana, ko VaRoma 8: 16 haitiudze here kuti isu tinofanirwa kuziviswa naMwari kuti titore?
Inoti: “Mudzimu iwoyo unopupurirana nomudzimu wedu kuti tiri vana vaMwari.” (VaRoma 8:16)
Uku ndiko kuzvidudzira kwekuzvisarudzira kunoiswa pandima iyi nesangano. Chirevo cheVaRoma hachiratidzi kududzirwa uku. Semuenzaniso, kubva pandima yekutanga yechitsauko kusvika pa11th wechitsauko ichocho, Pauro ari kusiyanisa nyama nemweya. Anotipa sarudzo mbiri: kutungamirwa nenyama inoguma nerufu, kana nemweya unoguma nehupenyu. Hapana rimwe remamwe makwai angade kufunga kuti vari kutungamirwa nenyama, inovasiya imwe sarudzo, kutungamirwa nemweya. VaRoma 8:14 inotitaurira kuti "kune vese vanotungamirirwa nemweya waMwari ndivo vana vaMwari". Izvi zvinopesana zvachose nedzidziso yenharirire yekuti mamwe makwai ingori shamwari dzaMwari uye kwete vanakomana vake, kunze kwekunge vachida kubvuma kuti mamwe makwai haatungamirirwe nemweya waMwari.
Pano une boka revanhu vakasiya chitendero chenhema vachisiya dzidziso dzinomhura dzakadai sehero yemoto, kusafa kwemweya wemunhu, nedzidziso yeUtatu kungodoma vashoma, uye vari kuparidza hushe hwaMwari sezvavanonzwisisa . Kwaive kubatanidzwa kwakadii kwaSatani kupidigura kutenda uku nekuvaita kuti varambe kuve chikamu chembeu yakatemerwa kumutora pasi, nekuti nekuramba chingwa newaini, ivo vari kuramba kuve chikamu chembeu yakaporofitwa yemukadzi. raGenesi 3:15. Rangarira, John 1: 12 inotiudza kuti vese vanogamuchira Jesu nekuisa kutenda maari, vanopihwa "simba rekuva vana vaMwari". Inoti "vese", kwete vamwe chete, kwete chete zviuru zana nemakumi mana.
Chirangaridzo chegore negore cheJW chekudya kwaIshe kwemanheru chave kungori chishandiso chekutora. Kunyangwe pasina chakaipa nekurangarira kamwe chete pagore pazuva ratinonzwisisa kuti rakaitika chaizvo, kunyangwe paine kukakavara kukuru pamusoro pazvo, isu tinofanirwa kunzwisisa kuti maKristu ekutanga-zana havana kuzvikomberedza kumhemberero yegore negore chete. Zvinyorwa zvekutanga zvechechi zvinoratidza kuti chingwa newaini zvaigoverwa nguva dzose pamisangano yeungano iyo yaiwanzova muchimiro chekudya mudzimba dzevaKristu. Judhasi anoreva aya se "madyo erudo" pana Judhasi 12. Pauro paanoudza vaKorinde kuti "rambai muchiita izvi SENGUVA zhinji pamunoinwa, muchindirangarira" uye "POSE paunodya chingwa ichi nekunwa mukombe uyu", aive kwete kureva kupemberera kamwe-kwegore. (Ona 1 VaKorinde 11:25, 26)
Aaron Milavec anonyora mubhuku rake rinova dudziro, ongororo, uye chirevo cheDidache inova "tsika yakachengetedzwa yemuromo iyo yakaita kuti kereke dzemuzana ramakore rekutanga dzidudzike nhanho-nhanho shanduko iyo vatendeuki veVamarudzi vaifanira kugadzirirwa zvizere kushingaira kutora chikamu mukereke ”:
“Zvakaoma kunyatsoziva kuti vanhu vachangobhabhatidzwa vakaita sei kuEucharist [Chirangaridzo] yavo yekutanga. Vazhinji, mukufamba kwekugamuchira nzira yehupenyu, vakagadzira vavengi pakati peavo vaivatora sevasina nyadzi vachisiya hutsvene - kuzvipira kuna vamwari, kuvabereki vavo, ku "mararamiro" emadzitateguru avo. Vakarasikirwa nababa nanamai, vakoma nevanin'ina, dzimba nedzimba dzekufundira, avo vachangobhabhatidzwa zvino vakagamuchirwa nemhuri nyowani yakadzorera zvese izvi zvakawanda. Chiitiko chekudya pamwechete nemhuri yavo nyowani kekutanga chinofanira kunge chakaitwa zvakadzama pavari. Zvino, pakupedzisira, ivo vaigona kubvuma pachena "baba" vavo chaivo pakati pemadzibaba aripo uye "amai" vavo chaivo pakati paamai varipo. Zvinofanira kunge zvakaita sekunge hupenyu hwavo hwese hwakanongedzwa munzira iyi: yekutsvaga hama nehanzvadzi dzavaizogovana navo zvese - pasina godo, pasina makwikwi, nehunyoro nechokwadi. Kuita kwekudya pamwe chete kwaifananidzira hupenyu hwavo hwese, nekuti apa ndipo paive nezviso zvemhuri yavo yechokwadi vachigovana, muzita raBaba vevose (muenzi asingaonekwe), waini nechingwa zvaive fungidziro yeramangwana ravo risingaperi pamwechete . ”
Izvi ndizvo zvinofanirwa kuyeukwa rufu rwaKristu kwatiri. Kwete imwe yakaoma, kamwe-yegore tsika, asi kugovana kwechokwadi kwerudo rwechiKristu, chaizvo, mutambo werudo sekudanwa kwaitwa naJuda. Saka, tinokukoka kuti ubatane nesu musi waMarch 27th. Iwe uchazoda kuve nechingwa chisina kuviriswa uye newaini tsvuku paruoko. Tichave takabata zviyeuchidzo zvishanu panguva dzakasiyana kuti zvienderane nenguva dzakasiyana dzenyika. Vatatu vachange vari muChirungu uye vaviri muchiSpanish. Hedzino nguva. Kuti uwane ruzivo rwekuti ungabatanidza sei kushandisa zoom, enda kurondedzero yevhidhiyo iyi, kana tarisa musangano musangano pa https://beroeans.net/meetings
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Eric,
Ndatenda nemhinduro yako. Ini ndinobvuma, zvese fungidziro, uye hazvikanganise tariro yechiKristu kana basa redu rekudya.
Ndinoona Tadua aburitsa ongororo yake, angade kuverenga imwe kubva kwauri futi, kupihwa nguva yegore uye yakakosha nyaya yenyaya.
Ini ndakanyatsoona ndima 17, MaKristu Akazodzwa, kuva echokwadi zvisirizvo. Kazhinji kana zvinyorwa zvichirondedzera vakazodzwa vanoisa zvakanyanya kuwanda pakutonga nekutonga. Izvi zvinogona kunge zviri izvo hama dzakazodzwa dzinofarira asi ini ndinofungidzira kuti maSista akazodzwa anoda kuenda kudenga kuti ave naJehovha, Jesu, uye nezvimwe zvisikwa zvemweya. Hama dzinoda kuve 'madzimambo'. Masisita vanoda kuve 'vafundisi'.
Ndiri pakati pekunyora lil 'chidimbu nezve ichi chose "kutonga" chinhu, nekuti panoratidzika kunge paine kusanzwisisa kwakawanda pamusoro pazvo. Ndinovimba mumwe munhu angafara kudonha pano kwandiri. Mumutsara mumwe chete, "kutonga" uku hakunei nekuita mitemo, asi nehurongwa hwekugadzirisa kukakavara nekusarongeka kune zvakatangira muMutemo waMosesi. Mhedzisiro ndeyekuti ivo vakazodzwa vaizove vachishanda pasi pano chaipo, kwete kudenga. Aya maonero akauya mupfungwa dzangu mumazuva mashoma apfuura, asi zvakadaro... Read more  »
Ndatenda, Eric, nekuisa pamwechete chinyorwa chako. Izvo zvakanaka kuti utore ese aya mapoinzi munzvimbo imwechete. Zvinosuruvarisa, ndinofunga zvichandiomera zvakanyanya kuti ndive munzvimbo mbiri musi wa27. Izvi zvinogona kuguma nezvinhu zvinokuvadza mhuri yangu. Zvisinei, tichava nechingwa newaini kumba, uye tichagovana nemi mose mumweya zvirinani. Zvinhu zviviri zvandinotenda zvinokodzera kucherechedzwa. zviri pachena kubva panaRuka 22: 19-22 kuti Judhasi aivepo Jesu paakagovana chingwa newaini nevaapositori. Kufunga kwese neSangano kunokakavara... Read more  »
Ndingave nemutsa kana chero munhu akapa yakaipa vhoti akatsanangura izvo zvavasingabvumirani nazvo. Zvikasadaro tinodzidza sei.
Yangu yekutanga yekufungidzira yemusango ndeyekuti iyi "isina maturo" yauri kureva haina kuwedzerwa. Ini ndinofungidzira kuti inogona kuuya pamusoro pehasha uye isina kuchena pasina chero chinhu chakawedzerwa. Ini ndinonyatsonzwisisa mhedziso, asi patiri mutoro wekuramba tichifanira kuzvitsanangura kubva pakutanga kusvika pakupedzisira. Chimbofungidzira kuti Jesu aifanira kuita chinhu chimwe chete ichocho, uye aipedza nguva yakawanda achidzidzisa vanhu nezvezvinhu zvakapfava kakawanda. Izvo zvinonyanya kufadza zvinhu zvaive zvehurukuro dzepachivande nevadzidzi vake vepedyo, uye iwe unozowana mune tsamba dzavakapedzisira vaine yakanaka... Read more  »
Ndatenda zvikuru netsananguro yako, Ad Lang. Ini ndanga ndafunga kuti kuenderera mberi kwekusimbisa (gore rega rega) kwekuti ivo chete vakazodzwa ndivo vanofanirwa kudya kwaive "zvisina maturo", zvinoenderana nevhangeri raRuka, uko "sezviri pachena" Judhasi akadya. Ndinoonga chiyeuchidzo chekuchenjerera kana uchishandisa mutauro wakasimba, uye ndiri kupfuura kutenda mhinduro yako.
Judhasi akadya uye zvaive zvisina chekuita nevimbiso yeumambo. Jesu akaita vimbiso yehumambo mumashure, mushure mekunge varwa kuti ndiani aive mukurusa, achikurudzirwa nekuratidzwa kwaJesu kwekuti mumwe wavo aive mutengesi. Zvichida pakanga paine kukakavadzana kukuru apo Judhasi akanyangarika. Jesu akaita vimbiso yehumambo hwakaparadzana zvachose nekupfuura zviratidzo. Iko kunokanganisa Nharireyomurindi kuri kunyepedzera kuti "vakazodzwa" iri rakakosha boka revaKristu, rakachengeterwa humambo hwekudenga. Nekudaro, ivo vanofanirwa kusimbisa zvenhema uyu mutsauko gore rega uye... Read more  »
Ndingataure here kubva muInsight Book, peji 130: - Pakarepo Judhasi akabva muboka. Kuenzanisa kwaMateu 26: 20-20-29 naJohane 13: 21-30 kunoratidza kuti akabva Jesu asati atanga kupemberera Kudya kwaShe Kwemanheru. Kutaura kwaRuka kwechiitiko ichi sezviri pachena hakusi mukutevedzana kwenguva. Ndozvandainzwa kuti "hazvina maturo". Hapana kana chinoratidza kuti nhoroondo yaRuka yakanga isiri marongero ezviitiko, saka muverengi anofanira kuongorora dzimwe nhoroondo kuti aone kana dzichizobatsira. (1) Mateo 26: 20-29 inotanga naJesu achiti "mumwe wenyu achanditengesa". Judhasi akatobvunza kuti "Izvo... Read more  »
Ndiri kuwirirana zvizere nezvamakataura, hama. Nharireyomurindi yakabviswa pachiratidzo chekufunga kuti Ruka, uyo akaongorora zvese zvakanyatso kubva kune vakawanda-zvapupu, aisazonyora mukutevedzana. Ruka zvakare aive shamwari yaPaul, uyo akapupura kuti iye amene akange anzwa evhangeri kubva kunaIshe. Iko hakuna chikonzero chekufunga kuti nhoroondo iri munaRuka haina kuenderana, kunze kwekufunga kwekushuvira kweWatchtower uko kwavanoda kuona yavo yega dzidziso ichisimbiswa neakaundi. Uyu muenzaniso wakanaka weeisegesis. Vanoda kuti Judhasi atove aenda... Read more  »
Ndatenda Eric nechimwe chinyorwa chakanyatsofungidzirwa uye chakatsigirwa nemagwaro. Iwe unobata Johane 6: 48-51. Ndinofunga izwi rakakosha mundima iyi ndi "chero munhu". “Ndini chingwa cheupenyu. Madzibaba enyu akadya mana murenje asi akafa. Ichi chingwa chinoburuka kubva kudenga, kuti chero munhu adye pachiri agorega kufa. Ndini chingwa chipenyu chakaburuka kubva kudenga; kana Chero ani zvake akadya chingwa ichi achararama nekusingaperi; uye, chokwadi, chingwa chandichapa inyama yangu kuitira hupenyu hwa... Read more  »
Ndiwo mufaro wangu mukuru uye ndinokutendai nekugovana iwo anonakidza ekufunga ekufunga. Toonana musi wa27.
Merci Éric Pour ce sujet clair et rafraîchissant, simplement en accord avec l'enseignement de Christ. Cela fait du bien. Je trouve incroyable que le GB fasse un lien dans la WT avril 2003 (qui n'est pas un article d'étude) entre Jean 6:51 «Iwe unorwadziwa uye unonzwisisa izvozvi zvinodzikira. Si quelqu'un mange de ce pain, il vivra pour toujours; et vraiment, LE PAIN QUE JE DONNERAI, C'EST MA CHAIR PURE LA VIE DU MONDE. »Et le Mémorial en citant en parallèle Matewu 26: 26« Jesu akanzwa marwadzo uye kuzvidzora... Read more  »
Ivo vaimbove masters pane eisegesis, vachimanikidza zvavanotenda pachavo parugwaro uye vachimonyorora. Boka razvino uno, vasere vasere, vakatadza kufunga nzira yavo kubuda mubhegi repepa.
Je reviens sur ce lien fait dans cette WT 2003 p 4 «Ce que le Repas du Seigneur signifie pour vous». Entre Luc 22: 19 et Jean 6: 51 durura expliquer que ce pain «représente» Jesu-Kristu. Mais l'article ne cite pas le verset en entri. (ils sont coutumiers du fait, lorsque cela les dérange). «Si quelqu'un mange de ce pain, il vivra pour toujours». Le lien étant fait avec le pain et le Repas du Seigneur, ce texte, ne se suffit-il pas à lui-même, pour comprendre que n'importe quelle personne, qu'elle qu'elle soit dans le monde, doit manger... Read more  »
Mhoroi, Eric, maita henyu vhidhiyo, uye ndichave ndiripo, ndokuonai nekukurumidza, hama nehanzvadzi.
Unogona here kujekesa zvimwe pakunzwisisa kwako VaRoma 8: 16 ndapota? Zvinorevei kuti mweya unopupurirana nemweya wedu?
Izvo zvakafanana nezvakareva Jesu paakati mweya unotitungamira muchokwadi chose. Mumwe anogona kuona kuti mweya uri kushanda muhupenyu hwako, kuti uri kutitungamira uye kutitungamira kuna Mwari.
Sekutaura kwaEric: uchazviziva iwe paunowana michero yemweya muGal. 5: 22-23 inoonekwa muhupenyu hwako. Kuti utarise zvinoenderana neMagwaro, tarisa 1 Johane 3. Inotsanangurwa zvakadzama ipapo. Pfungwa mbiri: "Wese wakaberekwa naMwari haaiti chivi, nekuti mbeu Yake inogara muna iyeye, uye haagoni kuita zvivi, nekuti wakaberekwa naMwari. Vana vaMwari uye vana vaDhiabhorosi vanoonekwa neichi chokwadi: Ani nani asingaiti zvakarurama haabvi kuna Mwari, uye haadaro... Read more  »
Ini ndinoda iyo poindi yaunotaura mune ino chinyorwa, kuti iyo 144000 uye boka guru revanhu muna Zvakazarurwa 7 zvakafanana uye zvakafanana. Chimwe chidimbu chejigsaw chinowira munzvimbo. Ndatenda!
Kune dzidziso dzakawanda kwazvo nezve 144000 asi ini ndinofunga zvinonyanya kuitika kuti dzakafanana neboka guru revanhu. Zvikasadaro, Johane akagona sei kuvaziva munaZvakazarurwa 14: 1? Inoti: "Ipapo ndakatarira, ndikaona Gwayana, rakamira paGomo reZiyoni, riine vane zviuru zvine zana nemakumi mana nezviuru vakanga vakanyorwa zita raro nezita raBaba varo pahuma dzavo." Saka kuvaziva anofanira kunge akambozviona kare. Asi zvaive rini izvozvo? Muna Zvakazarurwa 144,000: 7 akange angonzwa huwandu hwavo, saka zvichibva pane izvo chete aigona kunge asina kuvaziva... Read more  »
Kutenda Nightingale, iyoyo yakanaka poindi nezveZvakazarurwa 14
Ah merci beaucoups.
Je m'etais toujours demandé comment au chapitre 14 Jean avait pu dénombrer 144000 (pas de voix, juste la vision des 144000).
J'avais oublié qu'il les avait déjà vus (chapitre 7).
Comment aurait il pu les identifier autrement?
Ton raisonnement paraît tellement yakapusa et évident!
Merci kudira toute votre mupiro.
Ehe. Dambudziko kazhinji nderekuti isu tinoudzwa zvekutenda, tobva taverenga magwaro. Panzvimbo pekungoverenga mavhesi uye uchivarega vachiita kwavo kutsanangura
Ndizvo chaizvo zvarinotaura muNharireyomurindi yevhiki inotevera, ndima 2 yechinyorwa "Boka Guru uye mamwe makwai vanorumbidza Mwari naKristu. Eya, izvo ndizvo zvavaitenda kusvika Rutherford asarudza kudzidzisa pfungwa dzake. Ndima imwe chete iyoyo inosimbirira kuti mamwe makwai Zvapupu zvakatendeka, imwe pfungwa yaRutherford. Zvinoita kunge zvinonakidza svondo rinouya.
Imwe yeshamwari dzangu mune imwe ungano yakaita hurukuro yepakati pevhiki yeBhaibheri vhiki rino ndokukumbira rubatsiro. Zvanga zvakaoma kubatsira, asi panguva yehurukuro yedu taigona kutarisa nezvekubhabhatidzwa sechinodiwa, pane kuzodzwa (izvo zvingadai zvisina kumbobvunzwa panguva iyo panotarisirwa magumo). Aitya kwazvo paaiita chinhu chake, saka hachina kuenda sekutarisira, asi akakwanisa kuwana 1 VaK. 11: 25-27 kunze. Nehurombo, haana kukwanisa kuburitsa tsananguro yacho chaizvo, kuti kuve akakodzera kutora kunosanganisira kuve... Read more  »
Wadiwa Eric, maita basa nechinyorwa, asi ndinofanira kujoina kumubvunzo: ndeipi chete Tariro imwe yawataura?
Kwenguva yakati ndinonzwa ndakashushikana kutora kana kusafunga nezvekupokana kwese, kunyanya kunaJohani 4: 48-58 (Mashoko aJesu akanyorerwa kuboka rese revanhu raimuteerera. musinagoge muKapenaume), asi kune rimwe divi akaita sungano chete kuvaapostora vake panguva yeKudya.
Chaizvoizvo, iyo "sungano" ishanduro yakaipa. Zvaakaita kuvasarudza.
Icho chidimbu chakanaka Eric. Tinovimba vazhinji vezvapupu vachazviona izvi.
Chimwe chinhu chingaite kuti zvimwe zvapupu zvifunge kuti munaJohani 6 chingwa cheupenyu chinofananidzwa nemana murenje. MuIsraeri wese aifanira kuidya kuti ararame. Pakanga pasina "vacherechedzi" kare ikako vaingotarisa kana vamwe vachizvidya. Chapupu chega chega chingafunge zano rakadai kupenga - asi zvakadaro havaone vari kuita zvakafanana muChirangaridzo.
Ini handizive kana kungo tarisisa kungakonzera kuti mumwe apinde munyatwa. Zvinotaridza kuti zvinhu zvakakosha zvinoenderana nekutambira chinzvimbo uye chiremera chaJesu. Kunyangwe dzidziso dzepamoyo senge, toti, kunyangwe iyo Tiriniti chinhu, zvakatonyanya kukosha. Zvione sekusanzwisisana kunogona kugadziriswa munguva yavo chaiyo: kune vamwe izvi zvakatoitika, kune vamwe zvinoitika mune ramangwana. Pfungwa yako inoita, zvisinei, inogara ichindiyeuchidza nezvaMateu 23:13 (NWT), apo Jesu anoti "Mune nhamo imi, vanyori nevaFarisi, vanyengeri! Nekuti munopfigira vanhu ushe hwekumatenga; nokuti... Read more  »
Ndatenda Eric neimwe vhidhiyo inodzidzisa. Kutarisira kuvepo musi wa27. Just mubvunzo. Wataura izvozvo - Bhaibheri rinotaura nezvetariro imwe chete. Saka, ndeipi tariro ye'Paradhiso 'iyo Jesu anopa mbavha padanda / muchinjikwa padivi pake?
Tariro yevanhu ndeyekugara pasi pano. Ndiyo tariro yatinayo kuvanhu. Pauro anotaura nezvetariro mbiri pana Mabasa 24:15, imwe yevakarurama imwe yevasina kururama. Kuti tinzwisise izvi, isu tinofanirwa kumira kufunga nezve nzvimbo. Izvo zvinovhiringidza nyaya. Iwe unoyananisa sei vasina kururama kuna Mwari? Unozviita kuburikidza nehutongi hwakagadzwa hunosanganisira Kristu nehama dzake, vana vaMwari. Iyo tariro parizvino yakapihwa kune vese ndeyekuti tariro imwe, kuve chikamu chemhinduro. Kristu haana kuparidza tariro mbiri. Haana kutaura, kana... Read more  »
Merci beaucoup Éric pour cet exposé nyore et tellement libérateur. Je suis tellement heureuse aujourd'hui de pouvoir prendre le pain et le vin. Mhinduro yako ndeyekuti unodzidzisa vanhu nezvakanaka zvaKristu here? Je pense que c'est guva. JA: zvine chekuita nerekuda kwekusvika kana kwekuchengetedzwa kwepamusoro pematunhu, kusatarisirwa. Ndiko kufa kweiyo choisit. Je me rappelle les paroles du Christ disant “qu'il ya beaucoup de demeures dans le Royaume de son Père. Je m'en vais vous préparer une nzvimbo ”. Que connaissons-nous des différentes demeures de Dieu? Le... Read more  »
Ce que je suis sur le point de vous dire n'est que mon maoni, alors gardez cela à l'esprit s'il vous plaît. Je crois que nous serons ressuscités en tant qu'esprits de la même manière que Jeso, mais comme Jesus, nous pourrons prendre la chair afin que nous puissions servir les nombreux humains ressuscités qui seront sous nos soins dans le roes . Je ne crois pas que nous vivrons au paradis, mais qu'il y aura un endroit spécialement préparé pour nous d'où nous pourrons partir pour être avec nos semblables. Ndiko kurongeka qui durera mille ans.... Read more  »
Merci JA, merci Éric kudurura zvinhu zvepamusoro.
Ne vous inquiétez pas, dans ce cas précis je ne prends pas vos réponses comme vérité. Je voulais juste un échange sur ce sujet.
Ini ndinopa ruzivo pamusoro pekudururira zvese monde ce sujet reste imprécis.
Nous ne connaissons que partiellement.
Nous sommes juste certains que nous recevrons la vie éternelle.
C'est déjà beaucoup.
ndatenda futi
Ce n'est pas à Kairaat que j'avais posé ma question mais à Just Asking.
Je ne vois plus mwanakomana commentaire.
Peut-être que ce serait bien que nous soons informés sur les raisons pour lesquelles un commentaire disparaît.
Est ce tout simplement un bug ou iyo ya raison précise. (Dans ce cas, je ne vois aucune bonne raison)
De plus, je suis assez d'accord avec Leonardo Josèphe: lorsqu'on note un moins il serait bien d'expliquer pourquoi.
Fraternellement
Ndatenda Eric, uyu mutsetse wakanaka kwazvo wemagwaro. Tinovimba kuzopinda kubva kuMelbourne Australia.